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I have a couple questions about Sati

1. WHat is her role inside the matrix (what is her job)?
2. Why was she being exported, and how?
3. What was the meaning of her line in the last scene?

all answers would be great
thankyou


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post #2  quote:

Does anyone know?

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1. She has no job - thats exactly why she's being moved to the matrix.
2. She's being "exported" from the machine world so that she wont be deleted.
3. Dunno. But who the hell else is going to watch after her? Her parents live in the machine world.


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i think she was the Matrix rebooter. if u noticed at the end she was laying on the ground and the black cat (DEJA-VU FROM THE MATRIX) comes up. When Seraph and Sati were hiding in that room, Smith came in and says "So you must be the last exile?" to Sati. So I really think she's some kind of reboot program.
That's my theory....


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Sati had to have a prupose to not be deleted.
1) Her role inside the Matrix is to make the Sun rise. Notice in the beginning of the movie when Neo wakes up in the train station she says "Good Morning" and when she points for the Oracle to look at the Sun Rising the Oracle says "Did you make that?" and she says "Yes, for Neo."
2) She was being exported because she had no purpose, and apparantly her father had to make a deal with the Merovengian to keep her from being deleted. We do not know what though, no big deal. She was being exported to be given purpose. Easy enough...
3) See # 1.

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Extra : Exile - Enforced removal from one's native country.
Native country: Real World, had to be transported into the Matrix to be given purpose. Last exile because apparantly, she was the last before the whole peace ordeal was made with the machines and humans.


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post #6  quote:

nateq, you say she has a role - to make the sun rise, then you say she is to be deleted because she has no purpose. Which is it?

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ahhhh nateq that makes perfect sense
in Reloaded when Neo is talking to the Oraclem she says,
"There are programs to watch over the sunrise and sunset; we got programs runnin' all over the place."
so yea thanks nateq


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Let me help you guys out Sati has no purpose yes! But think about it we learned the she is a sub program. Programs in the machine world all have a purpose a karma and they created a sub program with no purpose, she is the first program created by machines without a purpose planned. I belive if revolutions continued she would gain the "eyes of the orical" and when Smith says shes the last exil, an exil in a program that is not connected to the source. Hope that helps

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^^^ that makes sense to me , but i also believed first that she is the mother of the matrix and the architect was the father.

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Her purpose, and the very reason why the Oracle believes she is so important is because she symbolises a new beginning for the human/machine relationship - she is a product of two machines, Rama Kandra and Camala(???) who both speak of their love for their daughter in Mobil Ave. This is new information for Neo, who doesn't understand how machines can experience love. I believe this is important because it shows how the machines have evolved and this may be integral to the peace deal which Neo struck with Deus Ex Machina.

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post #11  quote:

what exactly were the purposes of Sati's parents?


"Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson, vagaries of perception. Temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose."
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as far as their purpose in the real world, Rama-Kandra is the power plant systems manager for recycling operations. Kamala is an interactive software programmer.

aside from that, their purpose could be to simply get Sati into the matrix. because in the machines eyes, Sati has no purpose. and machines that have no purpose are deleted.

quote:
Rama-Kandra: No. I don't mind. The answer is simple. I love my daughter very much. I find her to be the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. But
where we are from, that is not enough. Every program that is created must have a purpose; if it does not, it is deleted. I went to the Frenchman to
save my daughter. You do not understand.
Neo: I just have never...
Rama-Kandra: ...heard a program speak of love?
Neo: It's a... human emotion.
Rama-Kandra: No, it is a word. What matters is the connection the word implies. I see that you are in love. Can you tell me what you would give to
hold on to that connection?
Neo: Anything.
Rama-Kandra: Then perhaps the reason you're here is not so different from the reason I'm here.



bring in the logic probe!

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FIRST, I MUST APOLOGIZE BECAUSE OF MY ENGLISH, THIS IS NOT MY NATIVE LANGUAJE , BUT I´LL MAKE AN EFFORT,
THERE IS A KNOWLEDGE, A VERY OLD KNOWLEDGE AND THE MATRIX IS BASED ON IT, LET´S GO TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, WHAT`S THE SATI`S ROL IN THE MOVIE, WELL, HERE WE GO:

SATI, IS A HUMAN SOUL, SHE WAS TAKEN OUT FROM HELL, SHE WAS FINISHED HER NUMBER OF LIFES I EARTH (THE MATRIX) TO BE EXACTLY THE NUMBER OF LIFES (or human bodys)
quote:
THE INTELECTUAL ANIMAL WRONGLY CALLED "MAN" NOT ONLY DOESN´T KNOW, HE EVEN DOESN´T KNOW THAT HE DOESN´T KNOW V.M.S.A.W.
OF ONE EACH OF US IS 108, AS SAME AS THE PEARLS OF THE BUDDAH´S NECKLACE, IF A HUMAN BEEN, DOES NOT GET PERFECTION IN A ESPECIFIC NUMBER OF LIFES, HE´S GOT TO GO TO HELL TO ELIMINATE DE SICOLOGICAL DEFECT (SMITH, THE SEEN, THE MATRIX´S AGENTS) TO BE CLEARED OFF, IN BASE OF SUFFERING, SHE CAN NOT GO BACK TO SUPERIOR DIMENSIONS BEING UNPERFECT, THEN, THE FATHER, (THE SECRET FATHER OF EACH ONE OF US) ASKED TO HADES (SATAN , THE MEROVINGAN) TO LET HER OUT, THE PROOF OF IT, IS THAT SHE IS IN THE MOBIL AVE, IF YOU CHANGE THE CARACTERS IT READS LIMBO, THE ZONE OF THE DEAD PEOPLE, YOU ARE A SATI YOUR SELF, YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER UP THERE SEND YOU TO THE WORLD, THE TRAIN MAN IS THE DEATH, THATS WHY NEO CAN´T BEAT HIM, NO ONE CAN, ONLY A TRUE MAN AS JESUS (BELEAVE ME THERE WAS AND THERE ARE MORE LIKE HIM) CAN FACE DEATH BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LAW (KARMA) ON ITS SIDE, THATS WHY THE TRAIN GOES ONLY ONE WAY AND IT READS "LOOPS" THET MEANS THE MECHANICAL LIFE (THE ONE YOU ARE LIVING RIGHT NOW) EVERITHING REPEATS EVERY LIFE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT FREE, ABOUT YOUR THIRD QUESTION... I DONT HAVE A SINCERE ANSWERE TO IT, I AM WRITING A BOOK, ITS CALLED, "THE MATRIX DEVELOPED," WELL, "LA MATRIX DEVELADA" IT IS ON SPANISH, I HOPE SOMEONE EDIT IT, AND I HOPE SOMEONE TRANSLATE IT FOR EVERY ONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT THE MATRIX, HOWEVER, I´M HERE TO SERVE YOU, I´LL GIVE YOU A PAGE I MADE A WHILE AGO AND MI MAIL IF YOU HAVE ANY CUESTION.
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I don't know about whatever that was... but here's what Dictionary.Com has to say about "Sati":

sa·ti ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-t, st) n.
The now illegal act or practice of a Hindu widow's cremating herself on her husband's funeral pyre in order to fulfill her true role as wife.

now, how that could relate to our cute little purposeless Sati, i have no idea, but the Wachowski's would have to have considered it.



"Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson, vagaries of perception. Temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose."
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Rama Kandra is the power plant system manager of recycling operations and his wife is an interactive programmer together they made Sati - a clue buried in here? Well what does he mean by recycling? perhaps recycling humans as they are when ejected from pods! we know humans are used for power so he recycled a human. Kamala was an interactive programmer so perhaps she programmed the mind of that recycled human and the finished product was Sati - not quite without purpose. The purpose of making Sati (Sati's purpose was to be born) was to see if they could recycle a human and keep them alive rather than just liquefying them perhaps if they need to keep a certain human alive for some reason or if they don't need to liquefy so many humans. Then after Sati has been born her purpose has been fulfilled and so they refer to her as an exile. But the parents didn't want her to die (they are based on AI after all and remember how other AI entities such as bi66er didn't want to die).


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