1:1 It has become popular mythology in the media that fighter jets were
scrambled to intercept the hijacked planes. This is completely untrue as the
following research shows. Guilty For 9-11: Bush, Rumsfeld, Myers, by
Illarion Bykov and Jared Israel, 14 Nov 2001 http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-1.htm
Scrambling of fighter jets to intercept stray aircraft is a routine
procedure. It happened 67 times in the 10 months between September 2000
and June 2001.
So on Sept 11, 2001 - Why were no fighter jets scrambled, and why has a
cover up story been concocted?
In the unlikely event that the airforce failed through incompetence, ( not
once but 4 times! ) where is the major inquiry?
I have seen bigger inquiries into car crashes at race tracks.
It has become common mythology in the media that George W. Bush was at
Booker Elementary School when he learned of the first WTC crash. This is a
lie. Why is Bush lying about where he was, and what he knew?
2:4 Bush Gets Tangled in his 9-11 Lies, Part 2:
White House Cover-up Creates More Problems than it Solves
by Jared Israel and Francisco Gil-White [7 October 2002] http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/calif2.htm
2:5 The President as Incompetent Liar: Bush's Claim that he Saw TV Footage
of 1st Plane Hitting WTC
Comments by Jared Israel [Posted 12 September 2002] http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/liar.htm
Clinton was impeached for lying about an affair. Bush is lying about where
he was, what he was doing and what he knew, during the crucial period
between 8.45 and 9 AM on Sept 11.
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Why did the President - after being told "America is under attack" continue
to listen to schoolchildren reading for another 25 minutes ? Why was he
cheering, smiling and joking even as it was known that at least one more
hijacked plane was on the loose ? View the TV footage which proves treason
at the top level.
If 19 Arabs hijacked the planes, why are there no Arabic names on any of the
passenger lists? If they used non-Arabic aliases, which of the " innocents "
on the lists are alleged to be the hijackers?
If they are alleged to have been using non- Arabic aliases (19 obviously
Arabic men got on board using non-Arabic ID, with 100% success rate ? ), why
did the FBI claim that they were traced through the use of credit cards to
buy tickets in their own names?
If 9 of the alleged hijackers were searched before boarding, as claimed in
this article
3:5 http://www.policetalk.com/9_hijackers.html
why is there no airport security footage of them? How did they (allegedly)
get on board with knives, guns, AND electronic guidance systems, while being
searched, but avoiding security cameras and not being on the passenger
lists? What aliases were they alleged to be using when they were searched,
and if they were not using aliases, why are they not on the passenger lists?
the FBI now claims that the hijackers used gas to subdue the passengers and
crew. If they used gas they would have been affected themselves - unless
they had masks. The story gets better all the time. They somehow got on
board with masks, gas, guns,knives and electronic guidance systems, in spite
of being searched, didn't show up on the airport security cameras, and were
not on the passenger lists. They left flight manuals in Arabic in rented
cars outside the airport ( last minute brushing up on the way there, about
how to fly the things! ) and then crashed the planes in breath taking
displays of skilled piloting. Just to make sure we knew who they were, their
passports were conveniently found in spite of fiery crashes which
incinerated the planes and occupants. So they got on board with false IDs
but used their real passports ?
If the mythical Arab hijackers really were on the planes and airport
security systems failed due to incompetence ( not once but 19 times! ),
where is the major inquiry? I have seen bigger inquiries into racehorse
doping scandals.
4.4 Former top German Cabinet Minister rejects official story of 9 11
attacks. Interview with Andreas von Buelow. Tagesspiegel Jan 13 2002. http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/VonBuelow.html
National Security Advisor Rice and White House spokesman Fleischer lied in
saying that nobody had ever conceived of planes being used in this manner,
Bush Was Warned of Hijackings Before 9/11; Lawmakers Want Public Inquiry ABC
News May 16 2002
4:5 http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/D...memo020516.html
when the 1994 extract from Time magazine, quoted in article 2:1 demonstrates
that the potential problem had been recognized for decades. And there are
other examples of this possibility having been widely recognized prior to
Sept 11.
4:6 "Omens of terror." by David Wise Oct 7 2001 http://www.hermes-press.com/omens.htm
In article 4:5 Rice also lied in saying that any threat had been
overwhelmingly perceived as being overseas. The statement she made is in
this press briefing.
4:7 Press Briefing by National Security Advisor Dr. Condoleezza Rice. The
James S. Brady Briefing Room May 16 2002 . 4.10PM EDT http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/rele...0020516-13.html
But this is the truth about the memo to which she refers.
Section 5: Where is the evidence against Bin laden?
Why is it that the US government doesn't feel confident enough of it's case
against Bin laden to lay any formal charges, but keeps " finding" convenient
video " confession" tapes ? Probably because new video technology makes it
impossible to distinguish between a real video confession and a fake.
Section 6: Insider trading reveals high level foreknowledge
In the first few hours after the attacks, it was reported that investigators
were already looking into huge volumes of insider trading on airline stocks
in the weeks leading up to the attacks. Why has this story since completely
disappeared? Do authorities seriously expect us to believe that more than a
year later, they still do not know who was responsible? Should not alarm
bells have been ringing BEFORE the attacks with these record volumes of
trading? If the executive director of the CIA had previously managed the
firm which handled much of the trade, are we seriously expected to believe
that he doesn't know who was responsible?
Suppressed Details of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly Into The CIA's
Highest Ranks -- CIA Executive Director `Buzzy' Krongard Managed Firm That
Handled `Put' Options on UAL, by Michael C. Ruppert, 9 Oct 2001
6:1 http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fr...1_krongard.html
It is alleged that American Airlines 77 ( a hijacked Boeing 757 ) crashed
into the Pentagon. A Boeing 757 is a very large aircraft with a wingspan of
125 ft and a length of 155 ft. So how did it make an initial hole 12 ft
wide, collapsing only about a 35 ft depth of the outer ring of the
building - and not leave any wreckage outside ?
This photo of the damage to the Pentagon wall
7:1 http://66.129.143.7/june2aa.htm
proves that whatever crashed into the pentagon was NOT AA 77, which
demonstrates the Pentagon attack to have been a self - inflicted frame up.
U.S. Planned for attack on Al -Qaida. White house given strategy two days
before Sept 11.NBC news. May 16 2002
8:2 http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cach...redquestions.ne
t/timeline/2002/msnbc051602.html+U.S.+Planned+for+attack+on+Al+-Qaeda.+White
+house+given+strategy+two+days+before+Sept+11.&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
US planned to hit bin Laden ahead of September 11 By David Rennie in
Washington
8:3 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...8/05/walq05.xml
Why were we originally told that the attack on Afghanistan was not planned
prior to Sept 11, and was purely a retaliation to a " surprise " attack, and
the story then changed after proof of the preplanned attack came to light ?
Bin Laden met with the CIA in July and walked away by Michael C. Ruppert
9:4 http://www.rense.com/general16/bin.htm
And why was the Bush family still in business with the Bin Laden Family,
even AFTER Sept 11?
Osama bin Laden's Bush family Business Connections, Alliance With Pakistan
Will Stimulate Drug Trade, Bring Revenues Under U.S. Control --Colombian
Opium Production Will Soar; The Taliban's Biggest Economic Attack on the
U.S. Came in February With The Destruction of Its Opium Crop by Michael C.
Ruppert, 18 Sept 2001
9:5 http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fr...01_bushbin.html
Carlyle profit from Afghan war, by David Lazarus, 2 Dec 2001
9:6 http://globalresearch.ca/articles/LAZ112A.html
Bush Family's dirty little secret: President's oil companies funded by Bin
Laden family and wealthy Saudis who financed Osama bin Laden, by Rick Wiles,
Sep 2001
9:9 http://www.americanfreedomnews.com/...bushsecrets.htm
Judicial Watch: Bush/Bin Laden connection " has now turned into a scandal "
Statement from Judicial watch with comments by Jared Israel
9:14 http://emperors-clothes.com/news/jw.htm
10:8 Documentary footage from the scene of the WTC attacks, and eyewitness
accounts from firefighters at the scene reveal serious flaws in the official
accounts. http://www.thepowerhour.com/posting...es-revealed.htm
For a series of engineering articles and informative videos on the WTC
collapse, see
Steel melts at 1539 degrees. Jet fuel (kerosene) burns at 800 degrees. Are
we seriously expected to believe that burning kerosene towards the top of
the building ( heat travels upwards ) somehow caused both towers to neatly
implode in a manner identical to that of a controlled demolition ?
Where is the inquiry? I have seen bigger inquiries into suburban housefires.
Why is discussion of the possibility of a controlled implosion completely
taboo? Why do authorities keep inventing ridiculous stories about burning
jet fuel melting steel?
US military schemes- ominously like 9/11.
12:19 http://emperors-clothes.com/misc/bamford.htm
If such tactics were considered normal and acceptable practice by the
Government in 1962, what evidence is there that things have changed?
as Did Zbigniew Brzezinski in 1997.
A War in the Planning for Four Years. HOW STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE?
Zbigniew Brzezinski and the CFR Put War Plans In a 1997 Book - It Is "A
Blueprint for World Dictatorship," Says a Former German Defense and NATO
Official Who Warned of Global Domination in 1984,in an Exclusive Interview
With FTW by Michael C. Ruppert
12:21 http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/zbig.html
"Articles documenting US creation of Taliban and Bin Laden's terrorist
network" Series of links to different articles
13:4 http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/doc.htm
Section 14 : Who created the civil war in Afghanistan?
Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's National
Security Adviser [Posted 6 October 2001]. Ex- National Security Chief
Brzezinski admits: Afghan war and Islamism were made in Washington
14:1 http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/brz.htm
This is among the most mind-numbing and nauseating collection of material I have ever read. There is irrefutable evidence here that the government refuses to face/explain - it smells like criminal activity through and through and suddenly I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the U.S. staged this attack against itself...
read for yourself. If you want the "short version", take a look at this article in particular (http://66.129.143.7/june2aa.htm) - perhaps you'll be more interested to read the rest of the material in this thread as a result - I know I am..
The House of Representatives passed articles of Impeachment against Bill Clinton, however, he was later acquitted by Senators in a 45-55 vote against the articles (slim margin).
The trial was only the second impeachment trial in U.S. history.
Okay, after extensive reading and thinking on the matter, I've drawn some conclusions for myself which are slightly less dramatic than my initial impression, but it's still not a pretty picture.
I think that the hard-core conspiracy theorists are arguing that for about 100 years the U.S. has plotted a long-term plan to ultimately take over the entire world. this is the whole idea behind the New World Order - one governing body, one currency for all the people, the world over.
I think that if the U.S. has plans / delusions in regard to this that it only a recent development and not something that has been in the works for 100 years. It just doesn't seem plausible to me that several generations have hassed this plan from one to the next and kept it moving, all in agreement with their forebears. Suddently the idea of Manifest Destiny was never to go from the Atlantic to the Pacific, but from the Atlantic all the way back around to the other side of the Atlantic. It can't go that deep. Those people had just figured out that the world wasn't flat and that Earth really orbits our Sun; they'd have had no concept of ruling the entire world.
Modern Man, on the other hand is an entirely different creature. He has the same war-mongering power-hungriness as Man of Old, however he is now armed with communications, weaponry, intelligence, vast, highly coordinated military complexes, deep rooted surveilance and control structures, technology - everything someone might need if they did come up with the notion that a New World Order might be attainable. I would not put it past our current leaders to have this mindset. I wouldn't put it past them to deny to the bitter end either. Nor would I put it past them to actually enact the full system completely beneath observable radar of common-folk by nesting the structure beneath treaties, wheels & deals, support rings, etc in order to implant the system without anyone ever realizing it's there. It's far too BIG of a concept for any individual to root out all the connections. Hence The Yankee Octopus.
There are undeniable lies being handed down from our government leaders to the people today. September 11th smells like a dirty rat to me. There is plenty of evidence that supports that no 757 impacted the Pentagon. They lied about DNA identification of victims (impossible since they were all burned to a crisp). there are plenty of other factors that do not, CAN NOT line up - because it didn't happen. So what did happen? Who knows? Our government won't reveal it to us. They lie about that, what else will they lie about? Was the whole ordeal a sham? Is our own government responsible for arranging the entire disaster, guilty of treasonal mass murder in an effort to "galvanize the nation" into reacting as Rumsfeld had open suggested earlier in the year? IT STINKS! And it's horribly saddening that they are willing to sacrifice our own in order to support their causes and personal agendas.. and an agenda that, if indeed it leads towards the New World Order, may just be flat out morally wrong.
Well, whether Clinton was impeached or not, my opinion is that he was really hard-up for it to bang with Lewinsky. That mayy br crude, but it's my opinion.
On the issue of 9/11, on that morning I was starting a new job. that was my first day of training. I was to start at 9 AM. That day happens to be my brother's birthday also. I had 2 good things going for me that morning... My new job was for a cable company as a CSR, and they happened to have like 50 tv screens showing different channels. On practically EVERY channel, the attack was shown. I was freaking out for a minute, thinking, "God, who would do this, and where would they be doing it next??" Then I remembered how Bush's election was very questionable. I remembered something that I had read, off a conspiracy website, long before the election, about how things would progress. It was weird...
The site said something about Bush being a shoe-in for president, because he was backed by the "powers that be". The site said the election would be very controversial, and that Bush's election would even be considered illegal by some people. It also said that his election would put in motion a specific plan to strengthen the positions and power of the people who "pull the strings". It said that Junior would lead America in a war, after a MAJOR staged terrorist attack on US soil.
Now, when I read it, I said that it would seem plausible. I said that whether the theorist was right or wrong, there was definitely something wrong with democracy as it is in these days.
Then, the events started to occur.
Bush was elected after recounts. The issue is still one of controversy.
9/11 toppled America's security, and that of the entire world. If such a large-scale attack could be carried out against AMERICA, then it could happen ANYWHERE. America, led by Bush, brought together the other powers of the world in a united cause: the removal of all terrorist threats. We have the fallguy, Usama (is he dead or alive? My guess: long-dead). The entire 9/11 attack HAD to have been known about long before it occurred, and even if it wasn't, it would've been MORE than possible to stop the planes from whacking any buildings, let alone the freakin WORLD TRADE CENTRE. Isn't there a military base, or naval base, located in New York Harbour or something? I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure that any deviation from a flight's standard path, would set off some sort of warning signals. The aviation systems in place don't just allow for planes full of people to just be LOST. That's not very secure, and if that were the case, then I'd be ROYALLY pissed that the level of security would be so low.
These things were ALLOWED to happen. And they were allowed to happen for a purpose. I think it's unfortunate that there are people in the world (probably thinking they're the world's problem-solvers...) who would put such a low price on individual life...
Oh, and for anyone who thinks that allowing or causing terrorist attacks on your own soil is bogus and never happens, take a look at a videogame (I know, unlikely source of truth, but this game is a meticulously detailed game, based on real operational procedures of government and military...) called SUPERPOWER. In that game, you (as leader of any country in the world...) can use espionage tactics to either start a war, or cause international political pressure, etc... You can perform terrorist attacks on YOUR OWN SOIL, and blame that attack on another country, so that you can go to war with them. Or you can cause attacks in a country, and blame it on another country, hoping they will go to war and allow you to achieve some other activity that furthers your country's agenda.
This may be a videogame, but the game was based on real procedures made available to the public, and the producers of the game used that information to develop Superpower. Also, I used the videogame reference for another purpose: to demonstrate how I think those people who are really in power view the world. They see it all as a great big game. Powers working against powers, gaining footholds that help in furthering their agendae, etc. That SUCKS, cuz we citizens are the ones that suffer while they play their games....
Man.....what are you getting at are you saying We Knocked down the twin towers or what???? who cares where who was, he was trying to be protected from possible filight pattern attacks, **** those bastards hijacked the planes and crashed them...what else do you need to know SAD YOU ****S are talking about this TRAGIDY like its an episode of McGiver last night, ****..I hate you people some people lost family in that awful accident let it rest.
I may not have actually LOST family, but I very nearly did lose one of my closest cousins by mere minutes. The tragedy of the attack and it's ramifications to the families of those killed aren't lost on me. I'm rather offended that you would say such a thing without knowing who this attack affected and in what ways. Who do you think talks about the incident the MOST? The people who weren't really personally affected, or those who were there or lost family or friends? How about those who JUST MISSED being a part of the casualty list, or relatives of those people?
I might not be american, but I have a right to get to the bottom of what happened, and why it may have been allowed to happen.
The posts I've read from you so far on this forum haven't shown very much ability to read between the lines or look past what you hear or see on the news. There is always more than what is told to the general public. ALWAYS. It's fine with me if you don't want to know more than what you're told, but I'm not OK with that. ESPECIALLY when my personal freedoms could be compromised as a result of my not being aware of the truth, along with most of the population. Or anyone that I know and love could be harmed in any significant way because of secrets and hidden agendae, etc.
Look, you can believe whatever you want. You can believe that there is no reason to question anything that was ever told to you, even by those who appear to be trustworthy. Fine. Do what you feel you need to do. I would suggest, however, that you don't jump on others who tend to try to look beyond the obvious and what is presented. There's always more to be learned, and a lot of the time that additional information is of a negative light.
You conspiracy theorists are great! Man, i'm glad you guys are around for the sheer entertainment of it all.
Let's all get together sometime and watch that mel gibson movie while we exchange our new internet aquired 'facts' on how the holocaust never happened.
I noticed that half of those links were either the same thing, or they contradicted themselves.
Everyone keep in mind that I could think up a conspiracy to "prove" Kermit the frog is behind 9/11. A bunch of questionable links don't do anything for me, I need to see less B.S. and more relevent unrefutable evidense.
9/11 was a TRAGETY. It wasn't a campaign.
Please pardon my pseudo-intellectuaphilisophicalismysiticality.
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