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Well I am sorry I missed your post. However the waiting is gonna be over shortly as she is in rapid heartbeat. Thats what happened to my Mom.

As far as Our Pope is concerned, He has enough brain power to step aside if he is unable to do his duties or over see them.

Believe me there are many many Cardinals licking their chops now as the Pope is receiving food thru a nasal feeding tube.
Only God knows what is to happen so I don't venture a guess.

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Do you know what is happening in her body as we speak?
Her organs are shutting down one by one. Its amazing she has lasted this long. My wish now is for God to take her and release her from her earthly body and pain. They are giving her Morphine,did you know that?


How do you suppose her life end, eutharize her? Why won’t they simply accept that this was her wish? Instead, they slam them for removing the tube and her suffering. When they give her morphine, they slam them for doing that as well.

It is miserably evident that they will accuse them of anything, even dredging up comparisons to Hitler because they disagree with it. The morphine is given just in case but doctors do not believe she’s feeling any hunger. How could she when she hasn’t had solid food for a decade ½?

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She is slowly disintegrating, no hydration means skin is falling off, her organs one by one will shut down as water is 98% of the total body weight.


Now this is basic health 101 here. First, skin falls off everyone whether hydrated or not. We shed pounds of skin during our lifetime.

Secondly, water makes up approximately 2/3 of the human body not 98%. It’s obvious you are falling for all the propagandarized nonsense chapeau coming from the far right winged demagogs. They will stop at nothing while claiming to be the morally just of the universe.

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She is suffering like Our LOrd did.

WARNING INCOMING!!!!!

I don’t mean to offend here but I have to be direct.

I don’t know what “Lord” your speaking of but if you’re talking about Jesus (Yashua) then I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a more asinine statement as this and it’s only the Catholics that are making this ridiculous comparison.

The sad part is that you have fallen for this rhetoric without waver simply because it came from the Vatican or it’s the “official Catholic position”. Can any of you think for yourselves for a few moments? Why is it that the Vatican can speak for all of RC Catholicism? Can you discern any of this on your own?

From this chapeau you’ve given here, anyone can hear the same just by turning on CNN or FOX and listen to the far right winged politics at any given hour of the day on their TV sets. I challenge you to be original in thought. If you disagree, state why you do so without sounding like an echo of those using this issue as a political catapult to further their agenda.

Sorry but sometimes I can be brazen and direct to a fault at times but I think this one called for it.



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Many Christians find the statement that is out there that "Terri is suffering like our Lord" offensive. Jesus was crucified on a cross. He had his full mental capabilities and was acutely aware of what was going on, he had people watching his suffering, and he did not have morphine. Terri is simply NOT there. She is not being tortured. She is drifting off as her body shuts down.

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How do you suppose her life end, eutharize her? Why won’t they simply accept that this was her wish? Instead, they slam them for removing the tube and her suffering. When they give her morphine, they slam them for doing that as well.

It is miserably evident that they will accuse them of anything, even dredging up comparisons to Hitler because they disagree with it. The morphine is given just in case but doctors do not believe she’s feeling any hunger. How could she when she hasn’t had solid food for a decade ½?



Now this is basic health 101 here. First, skin falls off everyone whether hydrated or not. We shed pounds of skin during our lifetime.

Secondly, water makes up approximately 2/3 of the human body not 98%. It’s obvious you are falling for all the propagandarized nonsense chapeau coming from the far right winged demagogs. They will stop at nothing while claiming to be the morally just of the universe.


WARNING INCOMING!!!!!

I don’t mean to offend here but I have to be direct.

I don’t know what “Lord” your speaking of but if you’re talking about Jesus (Yashua) then I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a more asinine statement as this and it’s only the Catholics that are making this ridiculous comparison.

The sad part is that you have fallen for this rhetoric without waver simply because it came from the Vatican or it’s the “official Catholic position”. Can any of you think for yourselves for a few moments? Why is it that the Vatican can speak for all of RC Catholicism? Can you discern any of this on your own?

From this chapeau you’ve given here, anyone can hear the same just by turning on CNN or FOX and listen to the far right winged politics at any given hour of the day on their TV sets. I challenge you to be original in thought. If you disagree, state why you do so without sounding like an echo of those using this issue as a political catapult to further their agenda.

Sorry but sometimes I can be brazen and direct to a fault at times but I think this one called for it.


People people I think for myself. Any one who knows me knows that fact. For sure and sometimes too much.Ha Ha.

Now Comparing Terri's suffering with Jesus's was a bit over the top and I am sorry for that statement.

I do not believe all that comes out of Fox or Larry King or any of the other shows. I get my information from reputable journalists. Reputable News Magazines for which I pay to subscribe.

I could have gone on and quoted the rest of the article but it would bore you righteous ones, whom think only your opinions are the correct ones. Talk about hypocritical Shame on you!.

Ihappened to believe in my heart that to withdraw food and water from Teri was a manipulative situation involving her husbands wishes. It really brings to the forefront what a living will is all about.
Anything you may say to a spouse or companion is not worth a cent in the courts as we have learned.

The Parents have just been turned down again,so all you people who think she is not suffering or should be abandoned have won.

I pray only that she goes quickly and ends this travesty of justice.
One of PEACE you sure belabored your screen name, but its healthy to get your feelings out so I don't mind.

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post #20  quote:

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Many Christians find the statement that is out there that "Terri is suffering like our Lord" offensive. Jesus was crucified on a cross. He had his full mental capabilities and was acutely aware of what was going on, he had people watching his suffering, and he did not have morphine. Terri is simply NOT there. She is not being tortured. She is drifting off as her body shuts down.


You think what you want about her condition and I have said I was out of line comparing her to Jesus, Carried away with the drama of the situation

Saying Terri is not "there" is a rather outspoken comment on a condition that has been debated for weeks.

If the Government had thought She was "NOtThere" would they have mad it such an issue.

I would take more umbrages at the Govtmt getting involved then for the Pope being quoted for something he stated in 1995 about Life.

But Se Li Vie, You all will think against the Catholics Right to life no matter what one humble poster thinks.
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post #21  quote:

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I get my information from reputable journalists.


What "information" do we need on this and why do we even "need" it.
This is a personal private matter that hundreds and thousands of people go through every year.

It should have been kept between the family....no the State courts....no the media....no the Christian right groups....no Congress....no the Vatican...no the US president...no the governor of Florida...no the Federal Courts....no the Supreme Court (the only smart ones in the group to stay out of it)...no back to the state courts....no the state police...no the local police.

Shew.


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post #22  quote:

I agree but thats not what transpired. Hey have you figured out what Psyhogenic fugue is yet. I will pm you the answer.

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post #23  quote:

You suffer from this?

"a dissociative disorder in which a person forgets who who they are and leaves home to creates a new life; during the fugue there is no memory of the former life; after recovering there is no memory for events during the dissociative state"

Did you move to create a new life?



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WhAT? i FORGOT

D Yes it happended to me at Charlies death not to the extreme of creating a new life but trying to get away from theone I was living at the time.



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You suffer from this?

"a dissociative disorder in which a person forgets who who they are and leaves home to creates a new life; during the fugue there is no memory of the former life; after recovering there is no memory for events during the dissociative state"

Did you move to create a new life?


Robert Ludlum based his character Jason Bourne on a person (I think he was a bishop) who suffered from this condition in late 1800s (or early 1900s, I am not sure).

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Ahhh so Delta you were alluding to my Bourne problems in the Iraq forum!
How interesting!

I must have been in one of my fugues and did not comprehend what in the world you were saying.

Clear as crystal....
until tomorrow.


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And Mystic, you've wondered about how I could do so many things in one life....so now you know!!!

There are ways to bring back the memory
when necessary.


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post #28  quote:

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Ihappened to believe in my heart that to withdraw food and water from Teri was a manipulative situation involving her husbands wishes.


Now this is more like it D. Sorry if I was a little rough.

However, what grounds do you believe that Terri is being manipulated? Are you accusing the husband? And if so, what does he possibly have to gain from manipulating her to her death?

This has already been debated in this forum. So many lies have been told, many by the Schindlers. Let me save you some trouble if you’re about to go here.

It wasn’t for money since he has little left. He didn’t abuse her as the Schindlers are suggesting and past accusations of a prior hospice nurse that he tried to kill her has been founded to be untrue. He did care for her greatly for 5 yrs after her incident and even took nursing classes to learn better how to care for her.



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post #29  quote:

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Delta said this in post #24 :
WhAT? i FORGOT

D Yes it happended to me at Charlies death not to the extreme of creating a new life but trying to get away from theone I was living at the time.


Heh..I was just kidding.

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And Mystic, you've wondered about how I could do so many things in one life....so now you know!!!



Well, it could be but I have to wonder.....

Maybe Delta's Psyhogenic fugue isnt the same as the Psychogenic fugue I termed?



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Now this is more like it D. Sorry if I was a little rough.

However, what grounds do you believe that Terri is being manipulated? Are you accusing the husband? And if so, what does he possibly have to gain from manipulating her to her death?

This has already been debated in this forum. So many lies have been told, many by the Schindlers. Let me save you some trouble if you’re about to go here.

It wasn’t for money since he has little left. He didn’t abuse her as the Schindlers are suggesting and past accusations of a prior hospice nurse that he tried to kill her has been founded to be untrue. He did care for her greatly for 5 yrs after her incident and even took nursing classes to learn better how to care for her.


Agreed!

The Schindler's definitely used the media AND the government to get people stirred up over this.

Im not saying that they are wrong for doing so....but I feel that they used the media to their advantage, and caused alot of rift amongst many people....and these people are now using that to further their own cause as well.

Its gotten out of hand...

I feel sorry for Michael Schiavo...he was unjustly ripped apart in the media.



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