Possible theories in the world of HP

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I thought that we could post theories in here. And, if there is one particular theory that you want to go in depth on, please start a thread on it so that we can all discuss it.

• She’s not old. Her age is close to the Marauder’s generation, she just takes a regular dosis of Ageing Potion everyday. Who would suspect of a ‘mad old lady’?
  
• Her cats are spies for her. They wander all around the Dursley’s house, and warn her when anything weird happens. In fact, Harry once thought to himself that Privet Drive was really empty as there was ‘not even a cat’. So there are many normally.
  
• In fact, I’m thinking the cats saw Harry go out of the Dursley’s house in Prisoner of Azkaban, so they notified Mrs. Figg, and she called the Noctangle bus, not Harry. I mean, he didn’t have the intention to call it, do you think it just shows up whenever the wand of a wizard is holded in the street?
  
• Dumbledore casted some protection around the Dursley’s house. I think Magnolia Street limits it, and that’s why Sirius was waiting there, he couldn’t go further. Mrs. Figg probably lives in Magnolia Street, to keep an eye in the limit of the safe area.

• He was a Death Eater, but not because he really enjoyed the killing and stuff.
  
• He had made a deal with Voldemort. Some sort of exchange. Voldemort needed something from Snape and Snape needed something from Voldemort.
  
• But Voldemort betrayed Snape, and did not do his part.
  
• Voldemort also killed somebody very important to Snape, probably a wife or girlfriend.
  
• This created a huge hate to Voldemort in Snape, and a thirst for revenge.
  
• That’s why Dumbledore trusts him so much, he knows he won’t be back with that who killed the ones he loved.

• They were into something. They were about to discover a secret, maybe corruption or spies in the Ministry.

• The Order of the Phoenix is formed an group of people who support the Heir of Good, and give him assistance to defeat the Heir of Evil.
  
• They are represented by a Phoenix, because it reborns from the ashes. The Order always reborns when it is needed, that is, when a battle between the two Heirs is coming closer.
  
• It doesn’t literally reborns, it just comes back. The people who is part of it has normal lives and everything, they just get into their Order duties when a battle is about to happen.
  
• The members are chosen by inheritance, you have to be a descendant of a member to be part of it.

• Fawkes is the Order’s Phoenix
  
• He has been being passed from member to member.
  
• He was alive in the times of the first Heirs, as Phoenixes can’t exactly die unless you kill them.
  
• The fact that Harry and Voldemort share Fawkes feathers in their wands was a confirmation to everybody in the Order that they were the Heirs (and the definitive ones, see below)
  
• The Order (Fawkes) has already helped the Heir of Good in a battle. (In CoS.)

• The Order will be awaken, as the final encounter is drawing nearer.
  
• Feathers (the Order’s symbol) will begin to appear, as confirmation that the Order has awaken again
  
• NOTE: I haven’t got everything sorted out about the Order of the Phoenix (or about anything), so please check the site for future updates.

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Sirius said that Bertha Jorkins had an excellent memory for gossip when she was at school.

Ludo Bagman claimed she had a terrible memory when she worked at the ministry and was really absent- minded.

Crouch Jr. admits to his father putting a too- strong of memory charm on Bertha when she found out that Crouch Jr. escaped Azkaban (therefore making her memory terrible).

Then, Voldemort tortures her in Albania trying to get information out of her. The Cruciatus Curse broke the memory charm.

Neville seems to have the same signs as Bertha Jorkins. Absent- mindedness, forgetfullness; and if I'm not mistaken, Bellatrix performed the Cruciatus Curse on Neville at the end of the 5th book.

If Nevile did have a memory charm put on him when he was a baby, or when he was younger, and if he can remember something that happened when he was younger, he could have a lot of valuable info. Neville seems special in the books, and JK always has him as a running bit. She's always pointing out his bad memory, and we know a lot about his past. JK wouldnt have put that much emphasis on him if he was just a sidekick. I think we will learn a lot more about Neville

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"Bone of the father, unknowingly taken...
Flesh of the servant willingly given...
Blood of the enemy forcibly taken..."

Does anyone think it may play a role that Wormtails arm wasn't completely willingly given?? I mean, at this point he basically had no choice but to serve Voldy since everyone thinks he's dead, the Order knows he's a traitor, and the DE's all think he killed their master. Could this be important?

Harry and Voldemort can't duel because Fawkes's tail feather is in both wands causing the reverse spell effect. So Harry isn't going to be able to use his wand against Voldemort's wand; the power to kill him is going to have to come from somewhere else. Where or what it is? It can't be someone else so we have to wonder how they will fight.

From what was said in book five, it would be logical to assume that Harry is Sirius's heir. So not only will Harry inherit Sirius's fortune and properties, but he will be the owner of 12 Grimmauld Place, and Kreacher's master. Harry is therefore going to have to control his feelings regarding the betrayal of Sirius (from Kreacher), and will have more responsibilities. (I don't know exactly what they are refering to when they said "From what was said in book five")

Percy wrote a letter for Ron which attacked Harry and Dumbledore - or so it seems! If the letter is read in another way, warnings for the group begin to appear: advice about Umbridge taking control of Hogwarts; Possible removal of Dumbledore from the Headmaster´s office; the Minister of Magic trying to portray Harry as a psychotic guy; and lots of others. Could this suggest Percy is working for the Order (undercover), and perhaps Mr. Weasley and Percy, in the need of a cover staged the fight?

On page 861 of the American version of OoTP, Nearly-Headless Nick tells Harry, "I know nothing of the secrets of death... I believe learned wizards study the matter in the Department of Mysteries." I'm assuming that Nick is referring directly or indirectly to the veil that Sirius fell through. It's entirely reasonable for the veil to be a connection, gateway, portal, whatever, to another plane: the plane where people go when they die. The veil is possibly an experiment by such 'learned wizards' trying to contact the dead or make a connection to this other plane. In this case, as Sirius didn't die from Bellatrix's spell, but merely from crossing the one-way gateway into this other plane, then the whispering voices that Harry hears are the voices of the dead, and this leaves the 'veil' open for later contact with Sirius - assuming that if one gets close enough, he or she can actually talk with the dead.

Mr. Weasley will become the Minister of Magic. The reasons are two: Fudge will probably be thrown out of office for not telling anyone about Voldemort; Ron said (in book 5 that "they have as much chance of winning the house cup as dad becoming Minister of Magic." And when Ron jokes about something, he's usually right. Who better for Dumbledore to place at the top than Mr. Weasley?

Albus Dumbledore is an Animagus.

I'm sure I'm not the first to have thought of this, but I swear I didn't think of this by virtue of reading anyone else's theories. Dumbledore, in either Latin or German or some other language I don't know, translates to mean "bumblebee." And if you think about it, that'd be the perfect Animagus form for him. He'd be too tiny to be seen, he could get information from places and scenes where he isn't supposed to be there, and that knowledge only contributes to the "old, all-knowing guy" image.

I think some of the best evidence of this is in The Chamber of Secrets, where Harry and Ron have sneaked into Hagrid's hut using the Invisibility Cloak. Some folks from the ministry and Albus Dumbledore enter, so the pair hide under the cloak in order to hear what goes on. The ministry decides to remove Dumbledore from the school temporarily. In the paperback version of the books, the quote is on page 263-264:

"However," said Dumbledore, speaking very slowly and clearly so that none of them could miss a word, "you will find that I will only truly have left this school when none here are loyal to me. You will also find that help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who ask for it."

For a second, Harry was almost sure Dumbledore's eyes flickered toward the corner where he and Ron stood hidden.

Now why would Dumbledore look off into any corner while speaking to Cornelius Fudge? And why would that corner just happen to be the one where Ron and Harry are standing invisibly? He knew they were there. How did he know? Maybe he watched them in bee-form earlier. I wouldn't put it past him, at any rate. I don't necessarily think we'll find this out in The Order of the Phoenix, though. I'm guessing we'll learn this towards the end of the seventh book, if my theory holds any water at all.

Why has Dumbledore opted to trust Snape so much after Snape was known as a Death Eater?

A better question might be, was Snape ever a Death Eater to begin with? Oh, I know he has the skull-and-snake tattoo on his arm and all that. What I mean is: was he ever a Death Eater at heart? I know he's the head of Slytherin, and that house is famous for producing Voldemort's gathering, but that doesn't mean that EVERY Slytherin to graduate from Hogwarts is an evil mastermind. They may not be the nicest sort of humans to grace the earth, but it certainly doesn't mean that they're all automatically evil. Maybe Snape joined as a sort of spy for Dumbledore. Maybe after a few weeks, months, years? of being part of the chaos he decided he didn't want to be part of it anymore and became a spy of his own volition. Wouldn't it be interesting if he were part of the Order of the Phoenix AND the Death Eaters at the same time?

Priori Incantatem.

Quite possibly the most confusing thing about the Harry Potter books is the Priori Incantatem spell performed accidentally on Voldemort's wand. In The Goblet of Fire, Harry's wand has this peculiar effect on Voldemort's wand (though why it didn't work the other way around is beyond me). We know that on the night of the Potters' death, James was killed while yelling at Lily to take Harry and run. Then Lily was killed protecting her son. Then there was an attempt to kill Harry, which backfired and resulted in the destruction of Voldemort and the Potter household, but not in the death of Harry.

Read that passage in The Goblet of Fire closely. The order of what comes out of Voldemort's wand is as follows: Cedric Diggory, Frank Bryce, Bertha Jorkins, Lily Potter, James Potter.

WHERE IS THE SPELL THAT WAS MEANT TO KILL BABY HARRY?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Good one Kris!

GoF Prior Incantem spell was quite, well, cool. Forcing the wands to do battle. I think that the curse to kill Harry was a deflected curse. So, the only things that came out of old Voldie's wands were the "ghosts" of the victims because they were successful curses. Oh, and don't forget the hand of Wormtail.

P.S. people HAVE to come back. Excellent thread.

GO KRIS! you know all the right places to look for good information if we didnt have you on this fourm we would have nuttin to read and nuttin to post replys to because all im good at is answering stuff! your the one with all the facts!

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I think that is some way Albus Dumbledore is related (by blood) to Harry Potter, and these are my reasons to back it up.

1) It is widely accepted, although not confirmed, that in book 5-7, it will be said that Harry is the heir to Godric Gryffindor, therefor, either James or Lily must have been as well, and it is accepted that it is probably James, seeing as how Voldemort wanted to kill James and Harry, not Lily. This explains Harry/Jame's relation to Godric, but not Dumbledore. In book one when Harry gets the invisiblity cloak from Dumbledore, it says that it was left to him shortly before he died. Why would James give the cloak to Dumbledore instead of a friend who could use it and give it to Harry, if James had no relation to Dumbledore.

2) While fighting the Basalisk in book 2, Harry pulls the sword of Godric Gryffindor out of the sorting hat. That proves a tie between Harry and Godric, and here is where Dumbledore fits in. How did the sword get to Harry, it got there from Dumbledore. Dumbledore had the sword already, it even had a stand in his office. Why would Dumbledore have the sword of Gryffindor, if he wasn't in some way related to him, it would be like Ron having the sword that Salazar Slytherin carried just lying around his room, it just doesn't make sense.

3) The only person to ever give Voldemort fear was Dumbledore. Why would he be afraid of Dumbledore if he wasn't Gryffindore's heir. Slytherin was confronted and forced to leave the school by Gryffindore because he was the only one that could stand up to him. Voldemort was afraid of him because he thought that an heir of Gryffindor was the only one who could defeat him. Though, he couldn't attack Hogwarts to get Dumbledore, not only because Dumbledore was there, but because of all of the enchantments and other teachers. This is why he went after James and Harry, they weren't protected other than by their treacherous secret keeper. He especially wanted to kill Harry and James because they were also heirs to Gryffindor. He had no reason to kill Lily and only did because he had to, not because he needed to like he did with James and Harry.

These are the reasons that i think that Harry (and James) are related to Dumbledore, through Godric Gryffindor.

We've come to understand that JK pays a lot of attention to the names that she uses in the series and that most are pretty significant. And I've recently come across two that present a somewhat scary possibility. Lucius Malfoy and Cornelius Fudge.

The surnames are simple enough: Fudge, meaning something messed up or confusing; and Malfoy, 'bad thing' or 'bad faith' in the French translation.It makes sense but both are a bit obvious.

However, when examining the first names, it becomes a bit more interesting. Cornelius and Lucius were both popes in existance around 250 AD. After his death, Pope Cornelius was immediately succeded by Pope Lucius. Furthermore, prior to his death, Pope Cornelius was sent into exile and died due to the fact that the Papacy was coming into harsh criticism while under his rule. During that time, and Antipope established himself and challenged the reign of Cornelius, which lasted for about two years. After Cornelius' exile, Pope Lucius was appointed and a short time later was exiled, as well. He later returned, but his reign only lasted for a year.

Based on this, I think it's possible that Fudge will be driven out of his post as Minister of Magic and eventually killed. Lucius will be instituted shortly thereafter but driven out by the efforts of Dumbledore&Co, but eventually make a comeback of sorts later on. I know it's a bit speculative, but based on the names and history, it makes sense. Ideas?

*Werewolves are killed by silver
*Wormtail was given a silver hand
*Wormtail will use his silver hand to kill Lupin

once agin you are smarter then me! you find stuff that i read over and over agin not even putting those possiablities together! man do i ever feel dumb!~

Okay... you can be in De Nile... just remember, if you wake up and find yourself floating in a river, you might be in Egypt!!

Wow, good work KJ... Lost for us to think about...

One thing I'd like to say though, is earlier you said Snape has a thing against Voldemort possibly because he killed someone important to Snape. Lily Potter perhaps? His feelings for her seemed pure, making me wonder if Snape really plays a bigger part in the overall story than we are aware of.

Also, perhaps you're right about Cornelius and Lucius, (good researching then, unless you already knew it... in which case.... "huh"). My thoughts often run to Voldemordt or Malfoy becoming minister for magic, however the 5th book seemed too much of a pivotal point, where the Death Eaters are, for the most part atleast, no longer among the ministry... Malfoy is now found out for what he is, after 5 books worth of manipulation and deception, I can't imagine how he'd gain power. Therefore after Fudge is gone (which I don't doubt will happen), like you said earlier Mr Weasley is the best candidate (chances are it'll happen around the end of book 7).

Also, I'm curious about people's opinions on Draco Malfoy. He and Harry have had a somewhat intense dislike for each other from day one, and it just seems to me that this may be a reflection of James Potter and Snape's mutual dislike at a young age (therefore meaning Draco may be later coerced into helping Harry in later years). They do share opposing view points when it comes to voldemort, but Draco could be just following his father's lead... or perhaps Draco is a major player later in helping the death eaters.

I think at the moment we're at a point in the story that the shroud has been lifted, and everyone is seeing the deatheaters, and know many of the deatheaters, however there will always be people inside the ministry of magic who don't show their true side... because of this, it is possible many people will be on a sort of "witch hunt." I think many people will be wrongfully accused of being deatheaters and put in azkaban (and out of the way)... I've got no real point to this, I can just see it happening.

I agree - Neville will definately play a larger part in future. He's appeared consistantly throughout the books, and seems to ride the sidelines for the most part (with the exception of Order of the Phoenix). I believe, though he doesn't seem too strong, he does wish revenge on Voldemort and would do anything (perhaps foolishly) to get it.

Well, that's my 2 cents for now.

I too expect to see a "witch hunt" in the next book. Fudge will go overboard trying to redeem himself. Lucius as Minister, well he is in prison, but that would have been really interesting.

Neville, breaking his fathers wand will turn out to be a HUGE blessing. I think that a new wand will do wonders. I alway thought it odd that he used his dads old one wen we know that the wand choses the wizard.

Draco Malfoy. We have a good thread on him-check it out and please chime in

Well, they said that that the Dementors wont be too loyal to azkaban after they're tempted by the death eaters. Lucius Malfoy wont be there for too long (he's probably already out)

Oh that's good. Neville choosing the wand instead of it choosing him... I like it, yes, he'll definately come back wiht thunder, though I don't believe the thing about it being him instead of Harry who should kill voldemort (maybe both)

I hope Fudge racks off soon. I hate that guy, always frustrates me.

Also, the witch hunt mentioned, I think that'll be one of the best weapons the real death eaters have - falsely accusing people who are dangerous to them!

My one hope is in future, there's a stronger sense of "who did it?" like in the first 4 books.

Oh, the witch hunt will be awesome. I hope that JKR does that... At times, I bet that it will be frustrating, seeing our good wizards being accused of something... but in the end, I believe that we will be vindicated!

I too want Fudge out of there. I also wan't Percy demoted sooo far that he is assigned to be a janitor's assistant.

I also think that Lucius will be out very soon. He is such a deliciously evil character. Imagine his face if Mr. Weasly becomes Minister!

I don't think Neville will kill Voldemort. The Prophesy is for Harry to do that. I just hope that Harry gets a bit more fun in the next book.

The big question is what has Wormtail been doing all year long? He had to be doing more than feeding Nagini. Also, did Karakoff escape, or is he also up to no good?

Oh that's true, yeah... what have they been doing?

I actually am often bored with Wormtail... he's that kind of snivelling little ... worm (well, it's the most accurate description.) I really hope he dies very very early....

Hehehe Mr Weasly as minister, man! Lucius will ticked

Mr. Weasley: hmm... tattered robes, second hand books, you must be a Malfoy