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| Posted by: Curley Joe | | I will tell you: T e r r o r i s t s! Yes, thanks to terrorists—and those who hate America and loudly spew their rhetoric and propaganda—these individuals have failed to realize one critical thing: their hatred, their threats, their attacks on American life and American freedom and American government have the opposite effect than that for which they aim. Like quicksand the more vigorous their efforts the more prompt their failure.
Indeed, they do not weaken and confuse the resolve of Americans but rather bring it into clearer focus and solidify it!
This new brand of the war on terror—this anti-Jihad that this administration has birthed and nourished—has unified a nation of Americans, as diverse as any culture, against one common enemy. Yes, 9/11 HAS changed America. It has awakened a deep passion and a sense of determination that Americans had long laid down and forgotten—not since December 7, 1941 has the enemy come to America's doorstep. America has again been bloodied at home. We are no longer protected by oceans. Americans now again realize that it's okay to let their hate for the enemy show. In fact hate is a necessary ingredient to stay vigilant and stay the course against an enemy who hates American life more than they love their own. Time to stop pretending—hate for those who hate—it makes for a healthy outlook on the war on terrorism. After all, if you can't hate an enemy who targets innocent people you have serious issues—in my opinion (as is ALL of this the humble opinion of yours truly.)
This is why President Bush will beat the Dems. No other issue will matter—not really.
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| Posted by: DaveDom | | Originally posted by Curley Joe
It has awakened a deep passion and a sense of determination that Americans had long laid down and forgotten?not since December 7, 1941 has the enemy come to America's doorstep.
It should have awakened a deep passion to find out why you were attacked but strangeley this hasn't happen. Instead it's the obvious - "lets go kick som butt" mentality that has won out.
Only today an ex-member of Tony Blair's government was asking why were no jets scrambled when it was known that 4 airliners had been highjacked.
But what the hell does it matter to find out how something as astonishing as four planes similtaneously being highjacked when you can instead holler and shout and kicking butt in countries that had nothing to do with it (Iraq).
Could SOMEONE please tell me if anyone has been made accountable for the jets not being scrambled on 9/11? Anyone? Anywhere? This is a scandal that you right-wingers conveniently ignore.
In fact hate is a necessary ingredient to stay vigilant and stay the course against an enemy who hates American life more than they love their own.
Vigilant? Two years and you still don't know why there was such a security lapse on 9/11.
Time to stop pretending?hate for those who hate?it makes for a healthy outlook on the war on terrorism. After all, if you can't hate an enemy who targets innocent people you have serious issues?in my opinion (as is ALL of this the humble opinion of yours truly.)
This is why President Bush will beat the Dems. No other issue will matter?not really.
Making friends around the world would be a step in the right direction but when it comes to foreign diplomacy Bush and Rumsfelt are bufoons of the highest order. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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[Originally posted by DaveDom
Making friends around the world would be a step in the right direction but when it comes to foreign diplomacy Bush and Rumsfelt are bufoons of the highest order. |
Ha! More dribble from a U.S.-hater. Say what you will, Davey-boy, the reality is what matters:
Poll: 70% think Hussein, 9/11 linked Belief persists despite lack of evidence of any direct link.
THE WASHINGTON POST:
WASHINGTON, Sept. 6 — On the second anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, seven in 10 Americans continue to believe that Iraq’s Saddam Hussein had a role in the attacks, even though the Bush administration and congressional investigators say they have no evidence of this.
SIXTY-NINE PERCENT of Americans said they thought it at least likely that Hussein was involved in the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, according to the latest Washington Post poll. That impression, which exists despite the fact that the hijackers were mostly Saudi nationals acting for al Qaeda, is broadly shared by Democrats, Republicans and independents.
The main reason for the endurance of the apparently groundless belief, experts in public opinion say, is a deep and enduring distrust of Hussein that makes him a likely suspect in anything related to Middle East violence. “It’s very easy to picture Saddam as a demon,” said John Mueller, a political scientist at Ohio State University and an expert on public opinion and war. “You get a general fuzz going around: People know they don’t like al Qaeda, they are horrified by September 11th, they know this guy is a bad guy, and it’s not hard to put those things together.”
The poll’s findings are significant because they help to explain why the public continues to support the war in Iraq despite the setbacks and bloodshed there. Americans have more tolerance for war when it is provoked by an attack, particularly one by an all-purpose villain such as Hussein. “That’s why attitudes about the decision to go to war are holding up,” Kohut said.
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| Posted by: DaveDom | |
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Originally posted by Curley Joe
Ha! More dribble from a U.S.-hater. Say what you will, Davey-boy, the reality is what matters:
Poll: 70% think Hussein, 9/11 linked Belief persists despite lack of evidence of any direct link.
THE WASHINGTON POST:
WASHINGTON, Sept. 6 ? On the second anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, seven in 10 Americans continue to believe that Iraq?s Saddam Hussein had a role in the attacks, even though the Bush administration and congressional investigators say they have no evidence of this.
SIXTY-NINE PERCENT of Americans said they thought it at least likely that Hussein was involved in the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, according to the latest Washington Post poll. That impression, which exists despite the fact that the hijackers were mostly Saudi nationals acting for al Qaeda, is broadly shared by Democrats, Republicans and independents.
The main reason for the endurance of the apparently groundless belief, experts in public opinion say, is a deep and enduring distrust of Hussein that makes him a likely suspect in anything related to Middle East violence. ?It?s very easy to picture Saddam as a demon,? said John Mueller, a political scientist at Ohio State University and an expert on public opinion and war. ?You get a general fuzz going around: People know they don?t like al Qaeda, they are horrified by September 11th, they know this guy is a bad guy, and it?s not hard to put those things together.?
The poll?s findings are significant because they help to explain why the public continues to support the war in Iraq despite the setbacks and bloodshed there. Americans have more tolerance for war when it is provoked by an attack, particularly one by an all-purpose villain such as Hussein. ?That?s why attitudes about the decision to go to war are holding up,? Kohut said.
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You say "reality is what matters" and then you go on to state that 70% of Americans believe that Saddam had a role in the 9/11 attack, something the rest of the world knows is totaly bogus. I wouldn't brag about this. I'd be scared.
Astonishing stuff.
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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Originally posted by DaveDom
You say "reality is what matters" and then you go on to state that 70% of Americans believe that Saddam had a role in the 9/11 attack, something the rest of the world knows is totaly bogus. I wouldn't brag about this. I'd be scared.
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Yeah, that's right, Davey-boy, we love fabricating things like this just to scare you. But remember just 'cause you're paranoid doesn't mean Americans aren't out to get you... 
However, I'm not 'stating' anything. It is a documented statistic from the WASHINGTON POST.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | | Curley, you say 70% of americans believe Hussuien had some link to Al Queda and/or 9/11 attacks. They say this knowing their is absolutely no evidence. I can say that their is life on Mercury, without any evdence. Just becuase I say that, doesnt in any way make that true. The reason the 70% of americans believe this false idea is because of the american media and of course the Gov. The truth is we were lied to by the Gov. Let me qoute:
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussien now has weapons of mass destruction." - Dick Cheney, Aug 26., 2003
"We have resources that tell us that Saddam Hussien is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more." - Colin Powell, Feb 5, 2003.
" We know where they are, they are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad ad east, west, south and north somewhat" - Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003.
In the state of Union speech, Bush linked 9/11 with Iraq, even though thier intelligence told them there was no evidence against this.
The fact is Bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11, not Hussien. There is absolutely no evidence hussien supplied, helped or by any means assisted Al Quaeda in the 9/11 attacks. However, he did not frown upon these attacks. But agreeing with the attack and actually commiting and planning the attacks have a very fine line between them. The Bush administration has yet to find Bin Laden, and yet to find the WOMD. In my opinion, they have failed the American people in their most devestating and crumbling time. They went in and bombed a bunch of caves, a bunch of american soilders died, and yet there is no Bin Laden. The terrorists did not "try". they succeeded. Why shouldnt the most powerful country in the world succeed in getting rid of Bin Laden??? Iraq was merely a coverup, to distract attention from the real enemy. If US had ot went into Iraq, we'd be asking why we havent succeeded in catching Bin Laden yet. Make the American people look at Iraq for a while, make them forget about Afghanistan and the fact that we still havent found Bin Laden. Americans do not need to keep finding someone else to blame, they need to find Bin Laden and make sure another attack never happens again. The way Americans were brainwashed is a fact that should be feared, not bragged about. Dave is right. This is not an accomplishment for anyone. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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Originally posted by tangybutsweet
Curley, you say 70% of americans believe Hussuien had some link to Al Queda and/or 9/11 attacks. They say this knowing their is absolutely no evidence. I can say that their is life on Mercury, without any evdence. Just becuase I say that, doesnt in any way make that true. |
Americans just don't agree with you, tangybutsweet. (By the way, I like your name—I just hope you're a girl!).
That is reality.
We all believe whatever we choose to. Americans are not as stupid as Europeans would like to believe. We have a brain and a capacity to decipher what rings true—and it certainly isn't what Al Jazeera or even the BBC put out! Nor is it any leftist European newspaper or .org website. I'll put my money on American newspapers and CNN and MSNBC any day—and, yes, our President and his staff. AND more importantly so will the majority of Americans.
The poll’s findings are significant because they help to explain why the public continues to support the war in Iraq despite the setbacks and bloodshed there. Americans have more tolerance for war when it is provoked by an attack, particularly one by an all-purpose villain such as Hussein. “That’s why attitudes about the decision to go to war are holding up.”
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| Posted by: Sayzak | | Bin Laden can't sit down and plan out an attack on us, or breath air for very long without us pinning a laser between his eyes. That slows down terrorism and makes it easy to catch them. Eventually we will catch him or he'll kill himself (like hitler).
Meanwhile... let's deflate a very stressful terrorist-type balloon in Iraq by ousting hussein and his thugs. Why not? We're finishing a job (to help people, add security, and to show the world that we're starting something we're going to finish!) | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: DaveDom | |
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Originally posted by sayzak21
Bin Laden can't sit down and plan out an attack on us, or breath air for very long without us pinning a laser between his eyes. That slows down terrorism and makes it easy to catch them. Eventually we will catch him or he'll kill himself (like hitler).
Meanwhile... let's deflate a very stressful terrorist-type balloon in Iraq by ousting hussein and his thugs. Why not? We're finishing a job (to help people, add security, and to show the world that we're starting something we're going to finish!) |
By going into Iraq you've probably "created a hundred Bin Ladens." or some such quote I heard somewhere.
As for deflating anything:
SADDAM HUSSEIN had nothing to do with terrorism. (but Israel! Israel! etc etc I hear - well check out the bundle of UN resolutions that the US and Israel have and are ignoring - and you wonder why Saddam didn't take his UN resolutions seriously)
Iraq was a secular country that did not produce the kind of Islamic fundamental terrorists that attacked the US on 9/11.
The US supported Saddam when he was actually dangerous and at his most ruthless.
You are unable to "finish" Iraq because you don't have enough troops there to stabalise the country, which is why you're coming back to the "irrlevant" and "old Europe" of the UNSC.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by sayzak21
Bin Laden can't sit down and plan out an attack on us, or breath air for very long without us pinning a laser between his eyes. That slows down terrorism and makes it easy to catch them. Eventually we will catch him or he'll kill himself (like hitler).
Meanwhile... let's deflate a very stressful terrorist-type balloon in Iraq by ousting hussein and his thugs. Why not? We're finishing a job (to help people, add security, and to show the world that we're starting something we're going to finish!) |
Yes, Bin Laden is pretty helpless now, and he cant sit there and plan an attack on us. But, nontheless we still need to find this guy. And he should be top priority, before Iraq and Hussien. Eventually though, he will be found or commit suicide.
However, the US supported Iraq and didnt look twice for it's people when iraq was with us. As soon as hussien invades Kuiwait, BAM! hes a harsh dictator and we find out all his other horrible inhumane crimes. Iraq has never commited any terrorist attacks even near american soil.
It's funny that you say to help people, add security, and to show the world if we start something we finish it. This coming from someone who says dont take something for its face value, check the source?   ever think to add get cheap oil, get rich off of Cheney's comstruction company, get rid of obstacle for israel?
Next time, follow your own advice.
The truth is always there, you just have to find it. But you only find it when take the time. But when you take the time and learn it, you see something greater, simpler than what you searched to find.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by sayzak21
Bin Laden can't sit down and plan out an attack on us, or breath air for very long without us pinning a laser between his eyes. That slows down terrorism and makes it easy to catch them. Eventually we will catch him or he'll kill himself (like hitler).
Meanwhile... let's deflate a very stressful terrorist-type balloon in Iraq by ousting hussein and his thugs. Why not? We're finishing a job (to help people, add security, and to show the world that we're starting something we're going to finish!) |
Yes, Bin Laden is pretty helpless now, and he cant sit there and plan an attack on us. But, nontheless we still need to find this guy. And he should be top priority, before Iraq and Hussien. Eventually though, he will be found or commit suicide.
However, the US supported Iraq and didnt look twice for it's people when iraq was with us. As soon as hussien invades Kuiwait, BAM! hes a harsh dictator and we find out all his other horrible inhumane crimes. Iraq has never commited any terrorist attacks even near american soil.
It's funny that you say to help people, add security, and to show the world if we start something we finish it. This coming from someone who says dont take something for its face value, check the source? ever think to add get cheap oil, get rich off of Cheney's comstruction company, get rid of obstacle for israel?
Next time, follow your own advice.
The truth is always there, you just have to find it. But you only find it when take the time. But when you take the time and learn it, you see something greater, simpler than what you searched to find.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by sayzak21
Bin Laden can't sit down and plan out an attack on us, or breath air for very long without us pinning a laser between his eyes. That slows down terrorism and makes it easy to catch them. Eventually we will catch him or he'll kill himself (like hitler).
Meanwhile... let's deflate a very stressful terrorist-type balloon in Iraq by ousting hussein and his thugs. Why not? We're finishing a job (to help people, add security, and to show the world that we're starting something we're going to finish!) |
Yes, Bin Laden is pretty helpless now, and he cant sit there and plan an attack on us. But, nontheless we still need to find this guy. And he should be top priority, before Iraq and Hussien. Eventually though, he will be found or commit suicide.
However, the US supported Iraq and didnt look twice for it's people when iraq was with us. As soon as hussien invades Kuiwait, BAM! hes a harsh dictator and we find out all his other horrible inhumane crimes. Iraq has never commited any terrorist attacks even near american soil.
It's funny that you say to help people, add security, and to show the world if we start something we finish it. This coming from someone who says dont take something for its face value, check the source? ever think to add get cheap oil, get rich off of Cheney's comstruction company, get rid of obstacle for israel?
Next time, follow your own advice.
The truth is always there, you just have to find it. But you only find it when take the time. But when you take the time and learn it, you see something greater, simpler than what you searched to find.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by Curley Joe
Americans just don't agree with you, tangybutsweet. (By the way, I like your name—I just hope you're a girl!).
That is reality.
We all believe whatever we choose to. Americans are not as stupid as Europeans would like to believe. We have a brain and a capacity to decipher what rings true—and it certainly isn't what Al Jazeera or even the BBC put out! Nor is it any leftist European newspaper or .org website. I'll put my money on American newspapers and CNN and MSNBC any day—and, yes, our President and his staff. AND more importantly so will the majority of Americans.
The poll’s findings are significant because they help to explain why the public continues to support the war in Iraq despite the setbacks and bloodshed there. Americans have more tolerance for war when it is provoked by an attack, particularly one by an all-purpose villain such as Hussein. “That’s why attitudes about the decision to go to war are holding up.”
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The thing with Americans and Europeans has been going on for a long time. Personally though I prefer to see both sides of the story. That way I get a broader picture. Corruption exists on both sides of the atlantic. But more importantly so does truth. Obviously the majority of the americans are going to bet on their media and the majority of Europeans are going to bet on their media. But I see media mislead viewers or blow stories out of proportion all the time. This ranges from Miami news saying " right here in South Florida" 15 times on 10 o'clock news to stories with false sources. Journalism is a powerful tool and spinning stories are very easy.
I've never said the polls were insignificant. They show what the American people believe. However, a poll is not a very good in the fact that the poll might reflect the opinions of a certain area, or some computer geek might have voted a 100 times. They give you a nice idea but you cant hold them to their accurancy. Again I repeat: Hussien had no link to Al Qaeda. We were hit and we were hit hard. We dont like getting hit and we like to knock them down so hard they dont ever even think about messing with us again. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. However ignorant it amy be. Also, I'd like you to know I would've been part of the 30% that uses their brain vigorously.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by Curley Joe
Americans just don't agree with you, tangybutsweet. (By the way, I like your name—I just hope you're a girl!).
That is reality.
We all believe whatever we choose to. Americans are not as stupid as Europeans would like to believe. We have a brain and a capacity to decipher what rings true—and it certainly isn't what Al Jazeera or even the BBC put out! Nor is it any leftist European newspaper or .org website. I'll put my money on American newspapers and CNN and MSNBC any day—and, yes, our President and his staff. AND more importantly so will the majority of Americans.
The poll’s findings are significant because they help to explain why the public continues to support the war in Iraq despite the setbacks and bloodshed there. Americans have more tolerance for war when it is provoked by an attack, particularly one by an all-purpose villain such as Hussein. “That’s why attitudes about the decision to go to war are holding up.”
REMEMBER, JUST A THANK YOU WILL DO. |
The thing with Americans and Europeans has been going on for a long time. Personally though I prefer to see both sides of the story. That way I get a broader picture. Corruption exists on both sides of the atlantic. But more importantly so does truth. Obviously the majority of the americans are going to bet on their media and the majority of Europeans are going to bet on their media. But I see media mislead viewers or blow stories out of proportion all the time. This ranges from Miami news saying " right here in South Florida" 15 times on 10 o'clock news to stories with false sources. Journalism is a powerful tool and spinning stories are very easy.
I've never said the polls were insignificant. They show what the American people believe. However, a poll is not a very good in the fact that the poll might reflect the opinions of a certain area, or some computer geek might have voted a 100 times. They give you a nice idea but you cant hold them to their accurancy. Again I repeat: Hussien had no link to Al Qaeda. We were hit and we were hit hard. We dont like getting hit and we like to knock them down so hard they dont ever even think about messing with us again. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. However ignorant it amy be. Also, I'd like you to know I would've been part of the 30% that uses their brain vigorously.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by Curley Joe
Americans just don't agree with you, tangybutsweet. (By the way, I like your name—I just hope you're a girl!).
That is reality.
We all believe whatever we choose to. Americans are not as stupid as Europeans would like to believe. We have a brain and a capacity to decipher what rings true—and it certainly isn't what Al Jazeera or even the BBC put out! Nor is it any leftist European newspaper or .org website. I'll put my money on American newspapers and CNN and MSNBC any day—and, yes, our President and his staff. AND more importantly so will the majority of Americans.
The poll’s findings are significant because they help to explain why the public continues to support the war in Iraq despite the setbacks and bloodshed there. Americans have more tolerance for war when it is provoked by an attack, particularly one by an all-purpose villain such as Hussein. “That’s why attitudes about the decision to go to war are holding up.”
REMEMBER, JUST A THANK YOU WILL DO. |
The thing with Americans and Europeans has been going on for a long time. Personally though I prefer to see both sides of the story. That way I get a broader picture. Corruption exists on both sides of the atlantic. But more importantly so does truth. Obviously the majority of the americans are going to bet on their media and the majority of Europeans are going to bet on their media. But I see media mislead viewers or blow stories out of proportion all the time. This ranges from Miami news saying " right here in South Florida" 15 times on 10 o'clock news to stories with false sources. Journalism is a powerful tool and spinning stories are very easy.
I've never said the polls were insignificant. They show what the American people believe. However, a poll is not a very good in the fact that the poll might reflect the opinions of a certain area, or some computer geek might have voted a 100 times. They give you a nice idea but you cant hold them to their accurancy. Again I repeat: Hussien had no link to Al Qaeda. We were hit and we were hit hard. We dont like getting hit and we like to knock them down so hard they dont ever even think about messing with us again. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. However ignorant it amy be. Also, I'd like you to know I would've been part of the 30% that uses their brain vigorously.
btw im a gurl dont worry.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by Curley Joe
Americans just don't agree with you, tangybutsweet. (By the way, I like your name—I just hope you're a girl!).
That is reality.
We all believe whatever we choose to. Americans are not as stupid as Europeans would like to believe. We have a brain and a capacity to decipher what rings true—and it certainly isn't what Al Jazeera or even the BBC put out! Nor is it any leftist European newspaper or .org website. I'll put my money on American newspapers and CNN and MSNBC any day—and, yes, our President and his staff. AND more importantly so will the majority of Americans.
The poll’s findings are significant because they help to explain why the public continues to support the war in Iraq despite the setbacks and bloodshed there. Americans have more tolerance for war when it is provoked by an attack, particularly one by an all-purpose villain such as Hussein. “That’s why attitudes about the decision to go to war are holding up.”
REMEMBER, JUST A THANK YOU WILL DO. |
The thing with Americans and Europeans has been going on for a long time. Personally though I prefer to see both sides of the story. That way I get a broader picture. Corruption exists on both sides of the atlantic. But more importantly so does truth. Obviously the majority of the americans are going to bet on their media and the majority of Europeans are going to bet on their media. But I see media mislead viewers or blow stories out of proportion all the time. This ranges from Miami news saying " right here in South Florida" 15 times on 10 o'clock news to stories with false sources. Journalism is a powerful tool and spinning stories are very easy.
I've never said the polls were insignificant. They show what the American people believe. However, a poll is not a very good in the fact that the poll might reflect the opinions of a certain area, or some computer geek might have voted a 100 times. They give you a nice idea but you cant hold them to their accurancy. Again I repeat: Hussien had no link to Al Qaeda. We were hit and we were hit hard. We dont like getting hit and we like to knock them down so hard they dont ever even think about messing with us again. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. However ignorant it amy be. Also, I'd like you to know I would've been part of the 30% that uses their brain vigorously.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by Curley Joe
Americans just don't agree with you, tangybutsweet. (By the way, I like your name—I just hope you're a girl!).
That is reality.
We all believe whatever we choose to. Americans are not as stupid as Europeans would like to believe. We have a brain and a capacity to decipher what rings true—and it certainly isn't what Al Jazeera or even the BBC put out! Nor is it any leftist European newspaper or .org website. I'll put my money on American newspapers and CNN and MSNBC any day—and, yes, our President and his staff. AND more importantly so will the majority of Americans.
The poll’s findings are significant because they help to explain why the public continues to support the war in Iraq despite the setbacks and bloodshed there. Americans have more tolerance for war when it is provoked by an attack, particularly one by an all-purpose villain such as Hussein. “That’s why attitudes about the decision to go to war are holding up.”
REMEMBER, JUST A THANK YOU WILL DO. |
The thing with Americans and Europeans has been going on for a long time. Personally though I prefer to see both sides of the story. That way I get a broader picture. Corruption exists on both sides of the atlantic. But more importantly so does truth. Obviously the majority of the americans are going to bet on their media and the majority of Europeans are going to bet on their media. But I see media mislead viewers or blow stories out of proportion all the time. This ranges from Miami news saying " right here in South Florida" 15 times on 10 o'clock news to stories with false sources. Journalism is a powerful tool and spinning stories are very easy.
I've never said the polls were insignificant. They show what the American people believe. However, a poll is not a very good in the fact that the poll might reflect the opinions of a certain area, or some computer geek might have voted a 100 times. They give you a nice idea but you cant hold them to their accurancy. Again I repeat: Hussien had no link to Al Qaeda. We were hit and we were hit hard. We dont like getting hit and we like to knock them down so hard they dont ever even think about messing with us again. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. However ignorant it amy be. Also, I'd like you to know I would've been part of the 30% that uses their brain vigorously.
btw im a gurl dont worry.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by Curley Joe
Americans just don't agree with you, tangybutsweet. (By the way, I like your name—I just hope you're a girl!).
That is reality.
We all believe whatever we choose to. Americans are not as stupid as Europeans would like to believe. We have a brain and a capacity to decipher what rings true—and it certainly isn't what Al Jazeera or even the BBC put out! Nor is it any leftist European newspaper or .org website. I'll put my money on American newspapers and CNN and MSNBC any day—and, yes, our President and his staff. AND more importantly so will the majority of Americans.
The poll’s findings are significant because they help to explain why the public continues to support the war in Iraq despite the setbacks and bloodshed there. Americans have more tolerance for war when it is provoked by an attack, particularly one by an all-purpose villain such as Hussein. “That’s why attitudes about the decision to go to war are holding up.”
REMEMBER, JUST A THANK YOU WILL DO. |
The thing with Americans and Europeans has been going on for a long time. Personally though I prefer to see both sides of the story. That way I get a broader picture. Corruption exists on both sides of the atlantic. But more importantly so does truth. Obviously the majority of the americans are going to bet on their media and the majority of Europeans are going to bet on their media. But I see media mislead viewers or blow stories out of proportion all the time. This ranges from Miami news saying " right here in South Florida" 15 times on 10 o'clock news to stories with false sources. Journalism is a powerful tool and spinning stories are very easy.
I've never said the polls were insignificant. They show what the American people believe. However, a poll is not a very good in the fact that the poll might reflect the opinions of a certain area, or some computer geek might have voted a 100 times. They give you a nice idea but you cant hold them to their accurancy. Again I repeat: Hussien had no link to Al Qaeda. We were hit and we were hit hard. We dont like getting hit and we like to knock them down so hard they dont ever even think about messing with us again. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. However ignorant it amy be. Also, I'd like you to know I would've been part of the 30% that uses their brain vigorously.
btw im a gurl dont worry.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by Curley Joe
Americans just don't agree with you, tangybutsweet. (By the way, I like your name—I just hope you're a girl!).
That is reality.
We all believe whatever we choose to. Americans are not as stupid as Europeans would like to believe. We have a brain and a capacity to decipher what rings true—and it certainly isn't what Al Jazeera or even the BBC put out! Nor is it any leftist European newspaper or .org website. I'll put my money on American newspapers and CNN and MSNBC any day—and, yes, our President and his staff. AND more importantly so will the majority of Americans.
The poll’s findings are significant because they help to explain why the public continues to support the war in Iraq despite the setbacks and bloodshed there. Americans have more tolerance for war when it is provoked by an attack, particularly one by an all-purpose villain such as Hussein. “That’s why attitudes about the decision to go to war are holding up.”
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The thing with Americans and Europeans has been going on for a long time. Personally though I prefer to see both sides of the story. That way I get a broader picture. Corruption exists on both sides of the atlantic. But more importantly so does truth. Obviously the majority of the americans are going to bet on their media and the majority of Europeans are going to bet on their media. But I see media mislead viewers or blow stories out of proportion all the time. This ranges from Miami news saying " right here in South Florida" 15 times on 10 o'clock news to stories with false sources. Journalism is a powerful tool and spinning stories are very easy.
I've never said the polls were insignificant. They show what the American people believe. However, a poll is not a very good in the fact that the poll might reflect the opinions of a certain area, or some computer geek might have voted a 100 times. They give you a nice idea but you cant hold them to their accurancy. Again I repeat: Hussien had no link to Al Qaeda. We were hit and we were hit hard. We dont like getting hit and we like to knock them down so hard they dont ever even think about messing with us again. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. However ignorant it amy be. Also, I'd like you to know I would've been part of the 30% that uses their brain vigorously.
btw im a gurl dont worry.
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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Also, I'd like you to know I would've been part of the 30% that uses their brain vigorously.
btw im a gurl dont worry. |
Glad to hear you're a girl, tangybutsweet. (Somehow that fact is more settling, given your name and my shameful male hormones.) I'm also glad to hear that you are one who uses her brain 'vigorously.' The remaining 70% of us who make up the majority of a Democratic America and who are not as smart as you bow down to your superior intellect—we will try real hard to keep up. 
By the way, will the superior intellect allow my inferior one the reason why you have posted the same messages half a dozen times or more?
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | | Why, Thank You. ;-)
My ISP system was messed up and kept disconnecting. I would submit the reply and wouldnt see it for some reason. My sincere apologizes. I found it annyoing myself to keep seeing it. and "THNK YOU." great one.
I do not believe that I am smarter than the 70% of America, We simply have different outlooks and different opinions. There is nothing wrong with that. America takes pride in it's diversity. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | | Anyone considering whether to switch to earthlink, Dont do it. It may have won those awards but I think the service sucks, and it's a huge ripoff. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Sayzak | | tangy -- I do need to see both sides of the story but I hardly take either side seriousely. I usually only take the facts that both sides agree on and base everything off that.
I do think it's sad that we didn't always take a harsh stand on terrorist nations, but how sad would it be if we never got the chance? Are we really that used to them that it's ok now? It's like allowing a bully at school to punch someone in the face every day, then 2 people, and eventually we get so used to that that we allow him to punch everyone he meets. Horrible analagy I know, but something has to be done about the world. Better now than never. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: DaveDom | |
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Originally posted by sayzak21
Are we really that used to them that it's ok now? It's like allowing a bully at school to punch someone in the face every day, then 2 people, and eventually we get so used to that that we allow him to punch everyone he meets. Horrible analagy I know, but something has to be done about the world. Better now than never. |
You are under the missaprehension that America is seen as a benign nation around the world. This is not the case and even your own government knew why, especially when it comes to the middle east.
'The president is not the first to ask: "Why do they hate us?" In a staff discussion 44 years ago, President Eisenhower described "the campaign of hatred against us [in the Arab world], not by the governments but by the people". His National Security Council outlined the basic reasons: the US supports corrupt and oppressive governments and is "opposing political or economic progress" because of its interest in controlling the oil resources of the region.'
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| Posted by: NothingSacred | | Bush will win because the American people are stupid sheep...I know, because I'm an American, living in America, but I'm not going to let an A-hole Shepherd like Satan W. Bush fool me. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Kookaburra | |
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Bush will win because the American people are stupid sheep...I know, because I'm an American, living in America, but I'm not going to let an A-hole Shepherd like Satan W. Bush fool me. |
At least he doesn't send chemical poisons down the mountain sides to poison the people of his country.
He doesn't have torture chambers for those that are against his views.
I for one am thankful to have a leader that does not have the mind of Saddam.
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by NothingSacred
Bush will win because the American people are stupid sheep...I know, because I'm an American, living in America, but I'm not going to let an A-hole Shepherd like Satan W. Bush fool me. |
Lol atleast someone can see it. 
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by Kukabeara
At least he doesn't send chemical poisons down the mountain sides to poison the people of his country.
He doesn't have torture chambers for those that are against his views.
I for one am thankful to have a leader that does not have the mind of Saddam. |
Just because someone says Bush wasnt a good president or whatever, doesnt automatically mean that He is worse than Sadam or he is being compared to Sadam. In fact, taking a wild geuss here, I think you would be one of those sheeps hes talking about.
And another thing, are you really telling me that evil people like Saddam just get up one day and decide that he is going to have torture chambers and release hazardous chemicals down mountain sides? A nutcase's pshycology might be unexplainable, but i can safely assume that it did not occur overnight.
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| Posted by: grets | |
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Lol atleast someone can see it. |
so i take it that's two votes for hillary! now that shows intelligence!
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| Posted by: Kookaburra | |
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Originally posted by tangybutsweet
Just because someone says Bush wasnt a good president or whatever, doesnt automatically mean that He is worse than Sadam or he is being compared to Sadam.
Just pointing out that even though things are bad in the US, they worse in other places.
In fact, taking a wild geuss here, I think you would be one of those sheeps hes talking about.
No, actually, I'm concerned about what's happening in our country. I think it's an embarrasment to our country about the things our government gets away with. Actually, I think it's an embarassment to our country about some of the laws getting passed. I also think it's an embarassment that the government has not been able to produce WMD.
And another thing, are you really telling me that evil people like Saddam just get up one day and decide that he is going to have torture chambers and release hazardous chemicals down mountain sides?
A nutcase's pshycology might be unexplainable, but i can safely assume that it did not occur overnight.
Where did you get that out of my post? How long it took to set up Saddam's methods of ruling his people had nothing to do with my post. |
All governments have their faults, ours included. I don't support everything the President represents, but he was better than our alternatives. So far, he still is. That's just my opinion, and I would rather have him than a man that thinks there is nothing wrong with cheating on his wife.
I don't know if I support what's happening in Iraq. There are too many conflicting stories about who was responsible for 9/11. Also, I'm concerned about people initiating events just to start a war. What country was it that got bombed because one newspaper DELIBERATELY reported a lie, just so a war could be started? I'm concerned that our own government may have allowed 9/11 just so they would have an excuse to go to war.
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| Posted by: NothingSacred | | "so i take it that's two votes for hillary! "
HELL NO! I hate friggin' Hillary! I'm not in any way a liberal. I'm an extreme opponent of affirmative action. I'm also not a conservative, I believe in Canadian style health care. I don't live in the boxes that you side taking "liberals" and "conservatives" live in. I'm a pragmatist, I don't know who I'll vote for? Maybe Ralph Nadar, I think he'd take a realistic approach to the war, and not just fight it to benefit his CEO friends and his Israeli MASTERS. Besides, he'd overturn the 1837 Supreme Court ruling that holds corporations as equal to individuals...thus SCREWING US all for life. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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Originally posted by NothingSacred
"so i take it that's two votes for hillary! "
HELL NO! I hate friggin' Hillary! I'm not in any way a liberal. I'm an extreme opponent of affirmative action. I'm also not a conservative, I believe in Canadian style health care. I don't live in the boxes that you side taking "liberals" and "conservatives" live in. I'm a pragmatist, I don't know who I'll vote for? Maybe Ralph Nadar, I think he'd take a realistic approach to the war, and not just fight it to benefit his CEO friends and his Israeli MASTERS. Besides, he'd overturn the 1837 Supreme Court ruling that holds corporations as equal to individuals...thus SCREWING US all for life. |
I have news for you, Nothing, Nader ain't runnin'. But anyway it's 6 of one one half dozen of the other, Good luck!
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| Posted by: Sayzak | | I'm obviousely opinionated, and you could say that as far as money goes, I'm more conservative. But I wouldn't label myself conservative for the same reason nothingsacred. I'm pro-choice.
But I guess what makes me more conservative than anything is this: I love freedom and I want to keep what I earn. And I want to be safe here at home. Everything else really doesn't matter. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hanuman | | I'll quote a fellow American.
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| (The Weakest Link) is fascinating program. They ask a bunch of people questions and they keep getting rid of the dumbest person, so just the smartest person is left. It is kind of the opposite way we elect a president. |
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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Originally posted by hanuman
I'll quote a fellow American.
(The Weakest Link) is fascinating program. They ask a bunch of people questions and they keep getting rid of the dumbest person, so just the smartest person is left. It is kind of the opposite way we elect a president.
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Pssst, hanuman, I have news for you: Jay Leno is a comedian. His job is to make people laugh. Think about it a little. Just a little...
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | |
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Originally posted by grets
so i take it that's two votes for hillary! now that shows intelligence! |
What does Hillary have to do with this? Shes not even running because she probably knows she'll never win. It's common sense, not intelligence. 
Blue gray and dark crimson
Debris and blood
shock and tears made a nationwide flood
faith and pride gave us strength
they stole our lives, our buildings, our ease in life
but our strengh is something
they couldnt take with all our planes, in all eternity's length.
In tribute to 9.11.2001.
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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Originally posted by tangybutsweet
Blue gray and dark crimson
Debris and blood
shock and tears made a nationwide flood
faith and pride gave us strength
they stole our lives, our buildings, our ease in life
but our strengh is something
they couldnt take with all our planes, in all eternity's length.
In tribute to 9.11.2001. |
At last, something worthy, tangybuts Is it yours?
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| Posted by: tangybutsweet | | yes it is thank you. :-)
here s the whole thing.
People died without reason
I cried helpless
tortured in the innocent viewers prison
what do you say to the 5 year old
Who asks why the terrorists were so cold?
With each answer, another gallon of innocence stole
Today he stands sad but bold
Around him uncertainity fills what the future may hold
Without tears, he remembers what his mother had told
"Kill hate with Love, thats the only way to reach the goal"
Her love he knows, they ccoould not have stole
With this, he raises her honey eyes to the pole
Blue gray and dark crimson
Debris and blood
Shock and trears made a nationwide flood
Faith and pride gave us strength
They stole our lives, our bulidings, our ease in life
But our strength is something they couldnt take
with all our planes
in all eternity's length.
Much love to NYC, the victims and the families of the cruel and meaningless attacks on 9.11.2001.
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