The fact that I am anti-war does not mean I am anti-American

Post-9/11 Era Forum

I just have to get this off my chest, before I totally flip out. I'm completely tired of being told I am anti-American because I don't support war. The fact that I am an American means I have the right to dissent, and I wish everyone would just understand that.

im not anti-american at all also!!

I LOVE AMERICA its the greatest country in the world, with the greatest people in the world

I AM ANTI-BUSH!

People who concoct mental equations such as "anti-war = anti-american" are buffoons; try not to let them bother you as they out-number us and there is no escape.

Same here

There are no greater patriots than those who actually take action to defned that in which they believe. People seemed to lose sight of that in their treatment of the Viet vets, and I think this country learned a painfully disheartening lesson, but one to which it to this day may not fully confess. For that reason I do not think we will see a repeat in history in this regard, despite disagreement with Bush Administration's actions. Our troops perform their duty nobly, whether just or injust in the eyes of the people, and our attention should be focused accordingly if we disagree.

Anyone who is Anti-War should not fall into a category of Anti-American. We have the benefit of having (and voicing) our opinions.

It's unfortunate, that the people of Iraq, do not have the same liberties as we do. It's unfortunate that, at least a small number (if not truly the large majority), must live in constant fear of watching every word they say or face the consequence of imprisonment or death.

It's great to be an American...huh...=)

Not all protestors are anti american. I would say the groups who sponsor and support these protest are un american. The person who said they were anti bush summed it up in a nut shell. most of these people are simply playing partisian politics, and oppose action because they dont like republicans. Now i didnt see all these protestors when clinton bombed kosovo, or iraq, or his brave invasion of hati. I hated bill clinton and i opposed the war in kosovo, since kosovo posed 0 NATA no zip threat to the United States. But i didnt go in the streets in protest. Thats the diffrence between leftist and righties. I am anti war. Most people are anti war. Im anti getting a shot to, but i go get shots when im sick. Simple analogy to figure out. Another thing id get off my chest is, there is no war to protest. Simply hasnt been one fired shot. It is your right to protest anything the government does. it is your right to not support the president, but i simply want to know where you were all at when we got involved with another countries civil war which had nothing to do with the US. Even if you dont belive sadam has these weapons you have to believe he is a greater threat than Malosovich was to our country. Where were you all during that war which killed thousands of innocent serbian civilians? Or perhaps its ok to kill civilians as long as they are white christians? I mean technically once war is declared you dont have a right to protest. Old law called the saditon act, but i dont think anyone would pull that old sucker out, and if they do ill be the first to denounce such actions. The anti war doves before world war 2 protested loudly, but once the shooting started they fell in line behind FDR and gave him their support. Many of you want to try and capture the MARXSIST revolution of the 1960s by protesting a war that has not even started yet. This is not vietnam. You have the right to ptotest peacfully. The minute you throw dog fecies on a soldier though it will end. THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. NEVER AGAIN. Thanks

zid,

just because i am anti-bush
doesn't mean i don't support the military
i have strong pity for them, because they are being put in harms way, and risking their lives for an unjustified war

they have nothing to do with this, and by being anti-war
this is the best way we can protect them

I pray this war doesn't happen, so the military can go back to their families

PEACE

My reference of "People of Iraq" is just that "THE People of Iraq". The citizens of Iraq, not our military.

HAHAHAHA. Did you oppose clintons war that killed thousands of innocent serbians?

Like it or not we are at war. The abscence of conflict does not = peace. My argument to you people will be this. EXAMPLES OF CONTAINMENT AND THE ILLUSION OF PEACE. Example 1 Korea 50 years of containment has accomplished what? Example 2. Pretending hitler would just stop if we appeased him enough would prevent war. Result? Millons dead in euorpe. I could go on. Vietnam is not an example of containment, but it is an example of trying to come to a honorable peace with a dictatoral nation. it took all of a few weeks after the sieze fire was signed by Nixon. it took about 60 days for them to take saigon and murder millons of people. Everyone talks about Vietnam. And many people seem to think the story ends with our withdrawl. Its ashame we dont focuss more on the failure of the peace agreement. Ever been to vietnam? Poverty. Oppresive rule. After saigon fell doctors catholics buddhist and even MLF and Viet Cong were lined up in the streets and shot.My favorite part of my trip to saigon was the propoganda films of how they defeated the invaders. Real propoganda bull crap, you guys may appreciate it, probably right up your alley of thinking. And people who honestly believe that sadam hussain does not have chemical and bilogical weapons are im sorry off your rockers. No offense, but you are his useful idiots. He is trying to win the only way he can. he learned from history. that damn vietnam again. He knows he can win the propoganda war, because people simply can not escape the illusion that world peace is possible. He uses you and the UN to maintain his power. he thinks if he can just hold it up long enough that we will stop harassing him. I ask you what good is law that is not enforced? WHy have a UN? why pass 17 resolutions? Makes no sense. A piece of paper a resoulution and a treaty are useless without the authority to back them up. Inspectors are clowns. Blix has been busted trying to put evidence on the back burner. France russia and china are protecting their intrest, and for some reason you oppose one of the only democratically elected governments in the world. I mean the world is full of fake democracies. Ill give you an example of one of our anti war nations. Canada. Canada is not a true democracy. The people do not elect their PM which has more power than our president even has. he is appointed. I really dont buy all your excuses for being anti war. I truly believe its all political, and if a democrat was in office doing this. You people wouldnt say a word.

Just because you are an american citzen does not make you my fellow american. Second Im an independent conservative. Third answer the question where were all the actors and hollywood morons when the democrats were waging illegal wars ? Not one of clintons wars was justified not one. All acts of illegal agression. Not one protestor filled the streeets. I rest my case. This prefab argument of . I dont chose a side im a moderate. Is typically aliberal who is afraid to admit it. Im not accusing you of this i dont know youwell enough t o make that assumption. . THank

the reason people oppose this war so strongly, is because it will have drastic negative effects on the entire planet, and will effect everybody

i don't protest wars because i hate republicans
if bush was a democrat, i would be doing the exact same thing

you think people around the world, protest because they hate republicans?

this isn't about politics

this is about the future of the planet, which we all care about

no doubt i want saddam out, but it isn't worth taking out saddam to destabalize the planet, lead up to more wars, and more terrorism

he ain't worth risking all of this

this war is a lose/lose situation
but we will lose more by attacking iraq

PEACE

Destablizing the region? Come on now, the Middle East, next to africa, is about the most unstable region. The people, due to their history and hatred for each other, cannot play nice to begin with.

Be it a US backed war to oust Saddam or not....this area was bound to explode at anytime. Maybe it just might come a bit sooner.

Don't blame the "unstability/stability" of the region on this war...the unstability/stability of this region goes far beyond and further back in history.

Also, I think that the prowar types are really antiAmerican. I think a lot of these people just have a morbid fascination with war and want some entertainment at the cost of American lives. Well guys, your football game is going to cost us a lot of respect in this world. A true patriot would want what's best for this country and this war is not what's best.

I believe that you are not anti american for opposing the war, you have a right to your opinion. However to all of the peace people I would like to ask if 17 resolutions over a period of more than 12 years isn't giving peace a chance what is? The only exception to my above statement about antiwar people not being antiAmerican is skippy, just look at his statement above and youll know what I am talking about

what about 60 resolutions for Israel CAPS?

i hope you can do math
60 is more then 17

Iraq = terrorism ????

damn another Fox News fan .......

Don't use the U.N. resolution ?

It's U.S. gov. which started .....

and you think there is only Iraq, which country will be the next one ? Pakistan ? Bosnia ? Syria ? Saoudi Arabia ? Iran ? Philippines ? North Korea ? (this one I don't think so they are able to respond ...), Soudan ?, and all others "...tan" countries from ex-soviet union ? North Ireland ? Malaysia ? South Africa ? .....

Did you ever asked yourself why there are fanatics muslim which becomes terrorists ?
Why they are anti-american ?

Fight the root cause ....

Ask your great Blair allied why there are about 30% of fanatics islam priests in UK preaching the jihad ?
Why this terrorists always read a paper when they justify their acts ?

Again fight the root cause and don't give Al-Qaeda and others args to recruit more terrorists ....

if you read my soooooo long post you would have noticed that I'm talking since 3:00 am

ok, nothing sacred, i know nothing about these resolutions for isreal, and as for fox news, all of you liberals are mad because they tell the truth which happens to contradict what you are saying, too BAD