U.N. and the Security Council

Post-9/11 Era Forum

You know I watched all 15 delegates of the Security Council give their speach on Friday and watched some of the other U.N. nations speaking to the Security Council today and not one country (except for Iraq) said that Iraq has complied with the U.N. Resolutions. There were however various interpitations of how inspections were going. The main sticking point is what should be done about it and it appeared that many nations want to see a little more inspection but not indefinate inspections.

Unfortunatly, I don't hold the U.N. in very high regard. As a matter of fact, I think that we, the U.S., should kick the U.N. out of the country. I would like to see it survive without us. We support it with just about everything from most of the humanitarian aid to most of it's military force. The reason I don't like it is becase the U.N. is all talk and no action. It creates bills and passes them, but doesn't support it with action. They can say that you need to do this or this will happen, but the conciquences never take place. I hate to go to this subject, but take Iraq for example. the U.N. has passed I don't know how many bills since the gulf war telling iraq to disarm or the U.N. will be fored to take action. Saddam blew off these bills and eventually kicked the U.N. out of Iraq. And the U.N. did nothing.

I agree to some extent. The UN is good with the humanitarian stuff. I'm almost to the point that I think we should pull out.
However don't you think that the Security Council should be the teeth of the UN? The enforcers?

well, the security council is very divided on any form of action and only one country is needed to veto an act of war. since they all come form different areas of the world and have completely different reasons for not taking action in Iraq, I can accept that, of course to a certain extent. But the thing that gets me off the most about the U.N. is that there is all this genocide around the world, especially in Africa, and they continue to do nothing about it. This is one subject that they should all agree on. Oh sure, the Baltics were pretty bad, but in Africa they are eterminating entire tribes and religions. America is the only country so far who has at least tried to stop this madness, but without the support of the rest of the world, we can't stop it.

HAHA. this is interesting to an old history buff . Watching history repeat itself. First the UN was never intended to be a global government that Kofi and the french are trying to make it. The US was never part of the league of nations , because we still had some BALLS. We knew getting involved in the back stabbing world of european politics would be nothing but an invite for these nations to dictate our lives, which the UN is trying to do today. The UN is heading down the same path as the league of nations. SUch a theory of a United Nations can only occur when all countries are democracy . It is laughable to call the UN a democratic system , when most of its members are dictators. Second when nations such as france are blatinly trying to use their " POWER" in the un to protect their own intrest ,which is very similiar to the LEague of nations demise, then nothing can get done. France has no intrest in disarming sadam or removing him . They simply have to much to lose. They like him right where he is at. Right now its plain to see to the casual or informed observor the UN has one motive. Putting the US in a equality roll. In other words no one nation has the ability to call itself a superpower equal to the US, perhaps maybe china at the most. France anti american anti israel polices can only be inacted in the UN. Chirac sees an oppurtinity here, and tis not to save poor iraqi children. It is to put france in a positon through the EU to become a self dilluted super power. On the other hand if the UN becomes irrelevant so does france. Many people are un aware the plans france and germany have for the EU. Including a very large military. If anyone doubts frenchs motives of becoming a dominant force, and embarassing the united states is simply in denial. The UN was never intended for a FRENCH forum. The UN is irrelevant when it comes to US legislation and US polices. We have an elected representive government to do that. And personally im tired of these idiots who think the UN , which is run by dictators and third world nations slugs, has any authority over american law making or policies.

Tell me what resolutions the US has violated?

Here do what I do,

http://www.un.org/

Gee what a reliable, non biased source of information! I'm sure you have the inside scoop from going there!

It was you that said that the US has violated many UN resolutions, I'm just wondering which ones.

The bombing during Desert Fox was in response to Iraq's violation of Resolution 687, and not allowing the inspector back into Iraq. I have not found a resolution that prohibited or condemed the US for that action.

The inspectors pulled themselves out because the US couldn't guarantee their safety. "Saddam kicked them out and wouldn't let them back in" is another popular lie that Bush and Rumsfeld like to tell".

The US has violated resolutions, but I'm not a slave. I'm sick of you people asking me to look everything up. Gee, if you want to be informed look it up yourselves. Read a book. I don't have the resolutions memorized. What do you think I am a robot.

Desert Fox may not have violated a specific resolution, but it violated international law set forth by the UN which is worse. No country may attack another country without it being in self defense. I've gotta go. I'll see what kinda propaganda you guys have written later.

*high five* to goots on that last post.

Also how are these statements contradictory ?

1) "The inspectors pulled themselves out because the US couldn't guarantee their safety."
2) "Saddam kicked them out and wouldn't let them back in"

I don't see how your statement differs from the above statement.

Those statements are exact opposites you prejudice fool. Every organization that was in Iraq had to leave because of the coming US bombing.

However, we say that Saddam made them leave.

That, my friend is a lie and if you can't see that you're blind.

The UN did in fact pull out the inspectors due to safety issues and Iraq wouldn't let them back in which in turn resulted in SERIOUS CONSIQUNCES.

Ok, this time I'm outta here for real. Later flagwavers.

I have na answer to all these argument. TELL THE UN TO GO TO HELL. Isreali violations of the UN are in self defense. The organization is anti jew. yeah keep giving up more and more land. give back so called occupied land that you took afterd dfending yourself froma n agressive act. blah blah blah. Simple answer. Tell the un to go to hell. Oh by the way calling people flag wavers is hardly an insult. Protesting the government for the sake of protesting the government is rather childish. Its almost like its cool. especially for those under 30 . cant say id idnt do it . But real life eventually catches up with you. I agree clinton comitted illegal wars. I was against them. Thanks