Shocking info about Kobe case |
| Posted by: qbert | | On the 27th of August on MSNBC, it was stated that Kobe's victim had "bruises on her neck" after the incident. Apparently Kobe asked her into his room, I believe it was 11:45pm ( I may be wrong about the time) because he had a "problem with his toilet" . | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: miawilliams | | That`s so stupid, she's not a plumber right?
And also she was working at the front desk that night, the truth is that she knew what she was doing.
Dearest baby she where looking for fun, and then everything happend | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: jrkiv | | Even if some will contend she went in there "looking for fun," which this new info sheds some doubt on, i bet few would say she went in there "looking for bruises." I'm interested to see what other medical evidence there is, in a case like this it is the only objective testimony that a court will hear. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: tutyadora | | like a womwn that she is she shouln"t have went to kobes room by her self and she should it had take someone with her or the spa and hotel he was at should it send an men or her witha company and i really think that that girl had something else in mind. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: one and only | | THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS IS A SET UP AND ALL YOU PEOPLE KNOW IT, I THINK MOST OF YOU WHO ARE DEFENDING HER ARE ACTUALLY EMBARRASED FOR HER.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Senator | |
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Originally posted by tutyadora
like a womwn that she is she shouln"t have went to kobes room by her self and she should it had take someone with her or the spa and hotel he was at should it send an men or her witha company and i really think that that girl had something else in mind. |
While more females are 'aware' these days, a whole lotta them are still stupid & dumb. Maybe you're giving her more credit than she deserves. I mean, you're making the assumption that she's not a dumbass....which could very possibly be the opposite of the truth.. Especially given her location. People who live in the country ARE slower than those city-folk.
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| Posted by: maddog20/20 | | good point.who expects a 19 year old front desk clerk from a hicktown to be worldly and smart.poor kobe what a victim,he's had everything handed to him his whole life,from having a NBA player for a dad,private school education in Italy,big fat NBA contract at 17,he's carried himself like an aloof arrogant prick since day 1 as a Laker.If he gets taken down by some unstable
average looking chick in Eagle Colorado it's nobody's fault but his.This pity for him is laughable.find a real victim to embrace,like the soldiers in Iraq getting shot at for 900 dollars a month | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: mrhsia22 | | No matter if he did it or not. Kobe should not have put himself in that position (no pun intended). If he really wanted to get some action, he should have just paid for a high-priced call girl. Get in, get out, no problems.
Even though I don't think Kobe did what he's accused of, Kobe brought this on himself. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Senator | |
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Originally posted by maddog20/20
If he gets taken down by some unstable
average looking chick in Eagle Colorado it's nobody's fault but his.This pity for him is laughable.find a real victim to embrace,like the soldiers in Iraq getting shot at for 900 dollars a month |
I'm with you 100%!!!
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| Posted by: one and only | | All you morons are going to get a big slap in the face, when Kobe is found innocent. Stop hating on Kobe, I agree he should have known better in that little racist town, that you can't give a girl sexual gratification it will surely lead to rape charges, that's how they operate. I'm behind Kobe 110%!!!  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: maddog20/20 | | I'm sure Kobe is glad youre behind him 110%,and I'm sure he's behind you 110 percent.This moron doesnt really care what happens to him.I just laugh at the blind loyalty smart people like you give to him unconditionly.He's so warm and friendly,such a team player.As evidenced by the huge support from his teammates and those team unity remarks he made about Shaq.You changed my mind Kobe is the best. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: one and only | | Maddog20/20, glad we won you over to our side, however we don't need your support. smart ass | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Kricket | | This pity for him is laughable.find a real victim to embrace,like the soldiers in Iraq getting shot at for 900 dollars a month.
(I'm new...please bear with me)
Well said Maddog! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: chelktty | | Objectively I think the bruises on her neck may have been self inflicted or inflicted by a friend in what I believe is her attempt to extort money from Kobe. I mean I don't think that someone who has been violated in the worst possible way would go out and have sex with two other partners immediately following the "attack", and THEN go to the hospital to report it. Women who are raped usually rush to the nearest shower to cleanse their bodies of their violator. They don't NOT shower and proceed to have sexual intercourse with two DIFFERENT lovers. I just don't buy it. Not because he's a star, I don't even watch basketball and honestly don't host any personal feelings towards the man. I just think that in this case he is innocent.
Maddog 20/20, you're right, people should be concerned with combat soldiers getting screwed with lousy pay, but we have a forum for the war in Iraq. This is the forum about the Kobe Bryant rape case and people are entitled to post their opinions about it in here. (No matter how extreme they may be).
Senator, just because people live in a small town does not make them dumbasses. That's an inflammatory statement and an insult to people who live or have lived in small towns. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: maddog20/20 | | I dont think there is a handbook for protocol to follow after a rape,and as far as extortion goes I dont think the Eagle County D.A. is the best avenue to follow to extort money from a celeb.She has been humiliated and lambasted in the media,and in forums such as these.I dont see any riches for her as of yet,maybe after it is all said and done she sell her story for one of those ******** movies on lifetime network.I think Kobe should buy Micheal Jackson a 4 million dollar ring for taking the limelight from him. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | | http://www.twbooks.co.uk/new/jpgs97/carnal.jpg Yep, of course no book or TV offers yet. But back that night, there was no gun, no knife, no threat of force shown either. Kate went up after her work-shift ended at her own free will. She even closed out her cash sheet for the day. That's where things go cloudy without her testifying to get the accurate details of that late Monday evening 6/30/03. From the Preliminary Hearing facts so far, Kate was on the clock when she welcome Kobe at around 10 PM when checking in. She was on the clock when assigning him a room away from his body guards. She then went up and gave Kobe a tour around the facilities, making small talks and kinda flirted with him. She escorts him to his room and leaves. Apparently, her work shift was over then. She sneaks upstairs by a secret backway to Kobe's room and knocks on his door near mid-night. He invites her into his room. She shows him her private tatoo removing her clothes. She began kissing and consented to petting, carousing and penetration. He bent her down and committed adultery. Last reported, there was no trace evidence of duct tapes, ropes or twines. She could have screamed her lungs out for at least 20 minutes of UNWANTED consensual sex. That's what makes this rape case extremely inconsistent. Half of reported rape claims can be falsely claimed. < --- Just Click Here
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Over the past few years, rape has attracted unprecedented attention in the media. "Date-rape" has become a household term, and we are too often encouraged to believe that "political correctness" has led to an over-emphasis on women’s rights and that women are falsely crying "rape" when they merely regret an unsatisfactory sexual encounter . Women who say they have been raped are often represented as unstable, calculating or just downright vindictive.
And it’s not just in the press. Rape stories crop up all of the time in police dramas, documentaries, novels, TV discussions etc. a media instigated mythology is developing before our eyes and if we’re not careful our reactions to the reality of rape will be less influenced by compassion and the need for justice, than by false assumptions and irrationality. |
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| Posted by: one and only | | Apparently, the llittle floozie has finally admitted that she lied about Kobe raping her. She just wanted a little attention with her screwed up head. She definitely has some major issues. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | |
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one and only said this in post #18 :
Apparently, the llittle floozie has finally admitted that she lied about Kobe raping her. She just wanted a little attention with her screwed up head. She definitely has some major issues. |
Can you direct me to your source? Sounds like intersting reading.
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| Posted by: sradford | | Everyone is so eager to claim innocense or guilt. I thought people were innocent in this country until proven guilty. How can you anyone determine either without all of the facts. As one of the biggest Laker's fans, I support Kobe as an athlete. Let's face it, we do not have all of the facts. We have a lot of hearsay, accusations, and gossip. These facts do not support whether Kobe is guilty or innocent or whether the alleged victim is fabricated the entire thing or not.
Here are some facts that you might consider:
Based upon Kobe's past criminal history, relationships, and nature. There is nothing in his past to inidicate that he has a blatant disregard for the female sex. Rape is an act of violence, it has nothing to do with sex. Sexual aggression is something that is evident prior to one incident. There usually is a history. Such as in the case of Mike Tyson. He has always had an aggressive personality and displayed violent behavior toward women and men. He does not fit the profile of a rapist. This has nothing to do with his race or celebrity status. In any criminal investigation, a criminal psychologist does an analogy to determine certain patterns in behavior to determine what certain behavior criminals might display such as in behavior or psychologically. During the OJ trial, OJ had a history of violence toward Nicole, it's logical to assume that he would be considered the prime suspect. Where is the evidence that Kobe fit the profile of a rapist? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | | http://images.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/teaser/2003-07/8644000.jpg Okay Laker fan, Kobe doesn't fit the profile of a rapist at all. His past girlfriends all say Kobe is a perfect gentleman with them. In fact, some would love to have gotten more physical attention. During his teenage history, it was a documented fact by everyone who knew him that "basketball" was his true love, not girls who were throwing themselves at him everyday. ...all the time. His natural tendency was not loving girls, but his love of the sport. Kobe never had to chase any girl....well, I'll take that back.....except Vanessa.
As to the OJ trial about his history of violence towards Nicole, that was a two-way streak. Those who knew them would say that Nicole was the "hot chili pepper" that slapped people like the maid and Simpson. She loses her cool and supposedly attacked Simpson for which according to OJ, he "had to wrastle her" to stop her from further injuries. During the tumbling, she suffered bruises. It's true that Simpson would YELL at Nicole for doing dumb stuff publicly and getting her and him connected back to the Tabloids. If you hear him screaming at Nicole, she would hide in her room or closet and dial 911 because she feels threatened and ashamed after a physical skirmish.
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| http://www.wagnerandson.com/images/enq_01_small.jpgRESULTS OF THE (tabloid )ARTICLE: < -- Just Click Here But, this article does a bit more than just to caution Nicole and OJ to keep quiet. It sets the scene for later events by portraying OJ as a sentimental brute, and Nicole as a plucky victim. Most interestingly, it contains a purported quote in which OJ tells Nicole, “I'll kill you.” How prophetic, eh? It is a wonder that this tabloid article did not find its way into Darden’s case. |
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| Posted by: one and only | | KenNJ where did you get your info that Kobe chased Vanessa, I doubt that, chase her for what???? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | |
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one and only said this in post #22 :
KenNJ where did you get your info that Kobe chased Vanessa, I doubt that, chase her for what???? |
http://www.basket-ball.com/IMG/arton2733.jpg The best info I can find now is that Kobe wanted Vanessa, despite the disapproval of their parents. Kobe asked Venessa to marry him. < -- Just Click Here
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| How They Met: The couple met at a video photo shoot and became engaged while Vanessa was still in high school. (Apparently, his visits to her school to take his girlfriend to lunch caused such a stir, Laine ultimately skipped her graduation ceremony to alleviate the chaos.) The couple married in April 2001 and welcomed their first child, a daughter, Natalia Diamante Bryant, on January 19, 2003. Kobe and his wife reside in California. |
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| Posted by: one and only | | Thanks for the info, not a very good picture of Vanessa though, she looks old enough (on this picture) to be his mom | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | | Here is another picture hopefully to your liking and the street rumor. Kobe Bryant's wife Vanessa is bravely standing by her man. Just when he was charged with rape, their marriage was falling apart and they were considering divorce supposedly . <---Just Click Here
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/espy/2002/0710/photo/a_kobe_i.jpg
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Now Vanessa's love and devotion are repairing their tattered relationship! "Kobe's amazed that Vanessa has stood by him,"…"He has not been interested in Vanessa sexually since she gave birth to their daughter in January.
"He'd begun listening to people, including members of his own family, who have been warning Kobe that Vanessa is only after his money and fame. "He had talked privately about getting divorced before the Colorado incident happened -- but now he's talking about nothing else except the love he has for Vanessa." Confirmed a family friend: "Kobe and Vanessa had been snapping at one another on a regular basis and that's why she didn't go with him to Colorado (where he was charged with rape). "His friends and family were afraid they'd file for divorce before the year was over."
Kobe and Vanessa made a show of togetherness at a press conference on July 18, after the charges were filed and he'd admitted having a one-night stand with his accuser. But the marriage had been "hanging by a thread even before the allegations were made public,"
"Vanessa is said to be privately very demanding -- very hard on Kobe and bitter that she wasn't accepted by his family until recently." The relationship faced an uphill struggle almost from the beginning, say sources… "Things became so bad between Kobe and his parents that they stopped speaking, but he went right ahead with the wedding and they got hitched in April 2001," said the close source. Unfortunately, marriage didn't stop the criticism. Some of those closest to 24-year-old Kobe repeatedly charged his wife was a self-centered gold digger. "Kobe's teammates on the Lakers want nothing to do with Vanessa because they feel she's just after his dough," said the close source.
"Things have been very cold between Kobe and Vanessa -- and his friends aren't shocked that he sought comfort with another woman. His marriage has been going bad for months. They are shocked, of course, that a woman is alleging that Kobe raped her. That they find hard to believe." Lately the couple had been "arguing frequently," said the family friend.
"Vanessa is standing by Kobe and has been loving and supportive -- and Kobe's found he's quickly fallen back in love with her. "Vanessa is determined to hold their marriage together. Though her heart has been shattered, she believes that Kobe has learned a valuable lesson. She's convinced they can move on and that he'll never, ever do this again." |
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