What if, we go to war and then...

Post-9/11 Era Forum

What if after we occupy and destroy the country, we don't find these weopons of mass destruction? Will Bush tell us that? Or does he have stuff ready to "plant" in Iraq as fake evidence? That is IF there are no weopons?

Bush say's, "OK, show us your cards!", they keep saying, "We don't have any cards.", Bush replies, "No matter what you say, it's a lie!"...What if it isn't? What if they're not producing the weopons, because they really don't have any?

I only hope that if they don't find anything later, that Bush will admit it!

What if, what if, what if, you have got not facts

i mean no facts

Sorry buddy...

You keep preaching, what if they sell nukes to terrorists, what if they nuke Tel Aviv, what if they exchange nuke trading cards with North Korea...blah, blah, blah...

You, my friend ALSO do not have any facts. Like me you and your hero Bush, are just speculating or in his case, maybe using this as an excuse to get on to other motives.

I hope like hell, if we attack that they really do find a huge treasure-trove of death producing crap or I as an American, will be embarrased!

well i know that we will find what we are talking about, because the president cannot lie about a topic like this, we has documents to prove it. Why can't we see these documents? It is classified. I however do have facts, what I say comes from what the president says

You've got problems, do you really think that just because the president say's it, that it's true? Go read up on the Gulf of Tonkin or about how the Spanish/American war started back in the 1890s...

im not saying that presidents cannont lie, take clinton for example, which im sure you adored, but what the pres says is backed up by years of collected evidence, and I guess that all of the Iraqi citizens that come over here and tell of the horrible things that Saddam does

I'll tell you how the spanish/american were started, 1898. William hearst had a paper with photos of the atrocities that the Spanish were committing in cuba. Killing and destroying the people. The public wished to end this and thus we entered war with them. Want some more?

And just as caps said, Citizens of Saddams regime can tell the horrible things they watch and live through. Many already have.

hahah - Personally, I don't care what the president is as long as he's not a socialist -- like Saddam. He's a socialist who runs around Brown nosing himself and the U.N. inspectors. It's funny that they found mustard Gas and Saddam was like "wow, I didn't know I had that."

Prejudice? Read what NothingSacred says about the Jews and then try to label Caps prejudice.

The President and Prime Minister have one thing that we, the news media and most of the rest of the world doesn't have. And that Intelligence. They have the CIA and MI6. These two guys have staked their career's on the information of that intelligence. Will you do the same with the intelligence that you have? Will you stake your career, or your life, or the life of your friends on the intelligence that you have?

They know so much more that they can't show the rest of the world. Yes I believe my President and the UK Prime Minister.

Do you believe Saddam Hussein over GWB and TB?

we have already found plenty in Iraq. Even a new WMD has been discovered with the unmanned drone aircraft capable of long distance nuclear, biological or chemical warheads. There are plenty of ways to justofy an invasion..

Along with Iraqi assassins the Kuwait found armed and not very far from troop stations according to the news.
I do not know the validity of this though.

1st of all, everything I've said about Israel is true. There's absolutely no prejudice in any of it. Just observation of factual events.

2nd, just because the Spanish where oppressing the people of Cuba, doesn't make it right for us to blow up OUR OWN ship to make an excuse for war! Besides, it wasn't because of that, you have all of these romantic notions about the U.S. saving people and fighting oppression. There's plenty of oppression we ignore. We only discuss oppression when there's an economic reason, a PROFIT reason for us to go in.

I'm not a liberal and also not a conservative, but when Bush doesn't find these weopons, it's going to be like "Well, I guess they didn't have any, oh that's OK, it was just 200,000 Godless AY-rabs that died and several cities, no biggie, I can pay my buddies to fix it out of government funds." At least when Clinton had to apologize it was more like, "Sorry about the stain Monica."

*I'd just like to add, I'm no bleeding heart, if there was real evidence that there was a clear and present danger to the U.S., I'd GLEEFULLY call for the killing and destruction of the entire country with no remorse, hell target the baby milk factory 1st...but the evidence just isn't there, the Neocons just want to reshape the Middle East for oil, personal gain and Israel.

Talk about me having problems

you like that

I may as well fire back then

THis is what you are

and a

It's not my fault you if follow basic instructions:

1) open mouth
2) insert foot

heh.. get over it.. it was a friendly jab

NothingSacred:
We didn't go to war right away after the ship was blown up by a mine - go through your history book.
Spain sent a telegram to the US president calling him "weak" after the ship sunk.

lol srry

You Pro-war antagonists make me seeth with anger.Your short sightedness is what makes this whole world a dangerous place to be in.
How you can sit there and bang on about how your administration needs to bomb this and occupy that in the name of freedom and democracy while you sit on your fat ass eating popcorn and swigging coffee makes me wince.
Do you not realise the wider implications of starting a war in the middle east?
People like you watch too much television and think the rest of the world will continue to orbit round your armchair.

So what do you suggest?

I just saw an interview with a Saudi Arabian woman in Saudi Arabia who supports war to rid Iraq of Saddam. She said that the Iraqi's had a very good prosperous life before Saddam and she would like to see that return.

I`ll suggest that perhaps the main reason why Iraq suffers so greatly is mainly due to the sanctions that our beloved countries have imposed on it for the past decade or so -even in defiance of the UN.
The idea of going to war for the sake of liberating the people makes me hurl chunks. This is more like a smash and grab attempt to take what oil the iraqi`s rightfully own and establish greater power in the middle east against the surrounding arab states.
Terrorists? - more like the pot calling the kettle black..

Sanctions were not imposed on food, medical or any humanitarian supplies.

yep another argument crushed

Saddam uses Humanitarian funds to build palaces for himself. No wonder the people suffer so.

Hence the "Oil for Food Programme"

Not fair, you didn't include the rest of the post. In that he get's intelligence from the CIA. A lot of people don't give GWB credit. He did some pretty good things for Texas when he was governer and even though democrats don't think he is doing that great I think a lot of Americans think he is.

Maybe it was Saturday Night Live that gave GWB such a bad rap when he was running for President.

- it doesn't take ten years to come up with the ability and the tools found in the black market to make a nuke. Hell, you can find the blue prints and even a instruction manuel to build one "correctly" online. Governments all over the world have attempted to remove this information in vain.

yes, but not 10 - with the right equipment and KB.
NK may could make several if wanted by the end of the year - and they just started (per the released information anyways).

That is most interesting. There is other interesting Iraqi officals giving out information - Look up "Saddam's Bomb maker" for one of the them.

I believe his name was Hamza or something like that. He has been on the cable news networks.