America's SCREWED!

Post-9/11 Era Forum

What a friggin' waste, a war fought for NOTHING, where NOTHING was gained, where we'll be stuck in a friggin' quagmire for years gaining NOTHING. While terrorism grows because that DICK HEAD Bush is just pissing everybody off for no good reason! Hell Lybia isn't doing anything anymore, they PAID BILLION$, They ADMITTED to terrorism, and QUIT it...WTF more do they need to do? Yet the HARD A$$ Bushies keep f'in with them...Why should anybody, ever stop terrorism? There's no reward if you do. This crap will be endless, CO$T BILLION$ and NOTHING will ever come of it and terrorism will NEVER end in our lifetime, while hatred of the USA will GROW exponentially.

Nothingsacred apparently posesses Nologic either as evident in the above rant:

What a friggin' waste, a war fought for NOTHING, where NOTHING was gained

Is Sadaam still in power?

Are the Iraqi people better off without Sadaam than they were before March?

I can already guess your answer, but then again Sadaam supporters rarely look at facts.

where we'll be stuck in a friggin' quagmire for years gaining NOTHING.

Yada..yada...yada...yada...you people were the same people warning us that we will get blown the sh!t if we dared to go into Baghdad, the same people who told us our warplan to take Baghdad was flawed, that we were there to steal oil etc., etc, etc. You people were wrong on every dire warning and prediction you made. You are wrong now, unless America loses our resolve and decides to abandon the Iraqi people like we did in 1991, which if people like you get into power - is exactly what will happen.


While terrorism grows because that DICK HEAD Bush is just pissing everybody off for no good reason!

Absurd insanity knows no bounds with you people does it?

ANSWER US THIS: Was Bush in office when Al Qaeda blew up the khobar towers in Saudi Arabia killing a bunch of marines?

Was Bush in office when our embassies in Africa were blown to crap by Al Qaeda?

Was Bush in office when the USS Cole was bombed and nearly sunk in Yemen?

HOW CAN YOU SHALLOW-MINDED PEOPLE INSIST BUSH IS 'PISSING OFF' THE TERRORISTS WHEN THEY ATTACKE DUS REPEATEDLY BEFORE THE GUY WAS EVER IN OFFICE?

I guess by the logic you people are governed by - if a murdering rapist breaks into your home to target your children - you should appease and coddle him so as to not piss him off, right? Perhaps you'll help tie your kids down so he can rape them more easily?

As always with you people, nothing bad ever happens unless America pisses someone off.

Hell Lybia isn't doing anything anymore, they PAID BILLION$, They ADMITTED to terrorism, and QUIT it

So they say.....facts and history however, are quite another story. Talk is cheap - and the Arabs know this.

Yet the HARD A$$ Bushies keep f'in with them...

Right, we should do what your pal Clinton did after all the bombings prior to 9/11: NOTHING. NOT A DAMN THING.

And still we were hit on 9/11 by the very same people that were convinced that because America had no resolve to punish them for the bombings in Africa, Yemen and Saudi - that we were weak and ripe for attack on a grand scale.

Sorry, your mindset got us into the mess we are in now.

Why should anybody, ever stop terrorism?

And herein lies your morally bankrupt worldview that requires we be nothing but bomb-fodder for nutballs until they no longer see us as a threat to their desire of conquest and subjugation and conversion of the world to Islam.


There's no reward if you do.

Sure there is...it's called SECURITY, it's called FREEDOM - something you people despise as much as Bin Laden does.

This crap will be endless, CO$T BILLION$ and NOTHING will ever come of it and terrorism will NEVER end in our lifetime, while hatred of the USA will GROW exponentially.

So according to that mindset, we should sit, do nothing and become targets like the UN relief workers in Baghdad were? You know, the very same people opposed to the war in Iraq, the very same people without any American military protection so they aren't perceived as hostile by the Jihadists?

The Jihadists look on that as weakness to exploit.

Sorry - you people would have us at the mercy of terrorists if your mindset ever prevailed in policy. It is why your ideology is becomming rapidly irrelevant in America.

You make no sense.

Pink-on-pink! Most excellent! Wasn't there a girly film or two witha similar format? But, really, INVAR, why do you bother responding to such a ninny as NothingSacred???

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I think that about covers it.

The argument that not antagonizing the people that are already committed to attacking you and killing you is somehow beneficial is fundamentally flawed.

Its just wrong sacred.

Whether you are the French at war with Hitler in 1940, or the US at war with terrorists in 2003, its just wrong.

NothingSacred
Aren't you glad you don't live here? Go cower in your own self pitty. We don't need your advice.
What's the reward FOR terrorism? Maybe you're next, or you mother and father or.....I guess it's only you that you care about.
Pretty selfish I think.

"Are the Iraqi people better off without Sadaam than they were before March?"

No, they had power and running water then.

"Aren't you glad you don't live here?"

I live in the USA, I just don't get how anyone can be so stupid as to think that Bush and his A-Holes are making any progress with their BS strategy?

Nothing,
I would not have ever guessed that you were American. You are so unhappy here. You should move. Really, I think that would be best for you.
They have power and running water and they aren't being slaughtered by their government. You know as well as anyone that this will be the best thing for Iraq. Good things take time.
How long will it be before you are good?

Don't worry NothingSacred, some people still have compassion left. Unfortunately you wont find it on this board. These people are stuck in their beliefs, and that's fair, I think you can accept that as can I, but we're not allowed to have ours :P Are we INVAR?

Don't worry NothingSacred, some people still have compassion left. Unfortunately you wont find it on this board. These people are stuck in their beliefs, and that's fair, I think you can accept that as can I, but we're not allowed to have ours :P Are we INVAR?

As usual with these people, anyone who doesn't think like they do about every issue, are stupid, brainwashed, hateful and lack compassion.

The definition of 'compassion' with these people is ridiculous and insulting. According to them, in order to be compassionate you must agree with them. You must hate Bush and America and denounce them at every turn. You must turn a blind eye to slaughter, rape and torture by a brutal regime that declared Jihad because they oppose American policy.

To these people, ANYTHING that is anti-American and anti-conservative is compassion, yet they themselves have done little to NOTHING to alleviate problems and despots in the world.

These people are all talk, no substance.

They have no compassion outside of their political ideology, they erroneously think their politics automatically titles them as compassionate, and that anyone disagreeing with them suffers a lack of it.

I've considered moving to Europe, I've spent much time there and there is a much better culture, more social interaction at every level and people are much better informed and are more savvy in looking out for their own self interests. American's think it's a badge of honor to be selfless, independent and isolated, and some such BS. But I'm staying put for now. Why should I give up on my own country? It's not hopeless yet, we could drive Bush and his people into the sea and things can turn around...gotta have positive vision like that.

Originally posted by NothingSacred

there is a much better culture, more social interaction at every level and people are much better informed and are more savvy in looking out for their own self interests.

True. Americans are too locked up with in their lives.

American's think it's a badge of honor to be selfless, independent and isolated, and some such BS. But I'm staying put for now. Why should I give up on my own country? It's not hopeless yet, we could drive Bush and his people into the sea and things can turn around...gotta have positive vision like that.

That won't be solved with gettin Bush out of White House - it's rather justice system, low quality education in schools and absense of morals to blame.

Originally posted by Americaaah

??? (shrug)

What is life of a typical american? Wake up, drive to work, drive to shops, drive thru McDonalds, then drive back home... All this time being alone. Not that all of you are like this - but mostly, yes.

There is no absence of morals. The morals are there.

Very high standards of morals somehow allowing son call police on his parents. Careless about appearance, about language, about relations... But follow the laws 100% even if it makes situation absurdic.

One just has to select them for oneself and one's children. This is a global scenario. Americans do not hold a monopoly on this.

It's not about monopoly - it's about society where schools teach children bring gay is just cool. I simply dont understand how could you allow that. Morals? Pleaaase...

Am I wrong?
Im not trying to offend you - rather show you weak sides of your (and to the large scale, my) society.

Geez Jukes,
Have you ever been to Europe?
How about St. Catherines in Montreal?
You probably have never spent any more time in he U.S. except to buy cigarettes.

My daily life:

I wake up rather groggy around 10 A.M. Sojmetimes I click the snooze until 11, when I realize I can afford to waste no more time.

I get up, hop in the shower (American's like to start the day fresh so we typically shower every morning and wear clean clothes). I brush my teeth, clean out my ears, style my hair, put on cologne and deoderant, etc etc.

Then I grab my keys and hop in my car. I sometimes skip breakfast, (When I'm broke), but usually I will stop at a gas station and pick up a sandwhich (like I did this morning) or I'll drive through McDonald's and get a value meal. Then I'll drive to school (Brown College), and usually arrive early, to get a start on the projects that we're continuousely working on.

School get's out at 5 P.M. I usually leave a few minutes early so I can get to work as close to the normal shift as possible (Which is 5 to close). I work hard and fast in the interest of doing a good job (Reasons: Pride, Money, the reletivity of time). Around 10 P.M. -- sometimes later -- I start the drive home, tired, and sore from a busy day.

I get home around 10:25, and I look in the fridge for some food, and something to drink. I sit down which a turkey sandwhich and a coke (or whatever I mayfind that day), and I think about where this redundant life is taking me. While in this frame of mind I venture further into the realm of conseptual thinking, and find myself asking very philisophical questions relating to the forms of control around me (I.E. religion, government, physics, society).

Naturally I want to rebel against these prisons for my mind. But then I realize, that if I don't have the freedom to contradict the laws of physics I atl east have the freedom to do what I please within the rules provided. Society? (Unfortunately, our society is starting to appease to the censorships and ******** of organizations that supprt P.C. and other freedom-sucking pleadges), at least for now I can still say pretty much whatever I want to say with out be killed for it. Government? Altough I may not agree with everything our government says or does, I have a deep understanding and apreciation for acts supprting freedom. Some people don't need freedom, they don't care, they take it for granted. Religion? I'm an athiest, because I think that human beings Ego's are wildly out of control in assuming that the purpose for exsistance is "us" and that credit can be givin to ONE -- all-knowing, ever-lasting entity that can read our thoughts. Organized religion in all it's mysterious prophetic ways, is just a quick "knot" at the end of a rope of quesions.

So right before I go to sleep at night, I take a deep breath. I know that my life is leading up to whatever I want it to. I'm going to school for graphic design, and I someday plan to start or join a business in that feild. I have the freedom to know that hard work pays off, and someday I can achieve whatever I want.

I go to work from 5-10 every evening so I can afford to drive to school and eat food in the morning, so I can someday afford to do other things, great things, whatever I want. (things such as P.C., unecessary taxes, and appeasement are not in my best interest because they're such short-sighted excuses to bring security to "NOW" when what matters most to me is tomorrow).

Peace of mind makes "now" a better place because I know that "tomorrow" will be great. -- that's my American day.

sayzak21 ,
Don't forget to play. It's important for your health.

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