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| Posted by: uragit | | Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.
Mundungus Fletcher was banned from the Hog’s Head 20 years ago. 16 years ago a stranger was thrown from the Hog’s Head for eaves dropping on Dumbledore and Professor Trelawney. On page 82 Harry asks why Dung is in the order if Molly doesn’t approve of him.
“He’s useful” said Sirius, “Knows all the crooks—well, he would seeing as he’s one himself. Buts he’s also very loyal to Dumbledore who helped him out of a tight spot once. It pays to have Dung around. He hears things we don’t.”
I have reason to believe that Dung was the one thrown from the Hog’s Head that night and somehow got in debt of Dumbledore or whatever. I think JKR will get into more depth of Mundungus in book 6 and/or 7.
When Harry meets Malfoy in the hall while going out to see Hagrid, Snape said that he was going to take ten points from Gryffindor but then he pointed out that they didn’t have any so he would have to… then he was interrupted my McGonagall saying that they would have to add some more. Surely you can’t be minus points so what was Snape going to do to Harry?
Mark Evans cannot be related to Harry in anyway. Petunia was Lily’s only living relative, so unless he is her son that she gave up or something he cannot be related. Which really sucks.
Sirius had mentioned that when he ran away from Grimmauld Place that he stayed at Mr. and Mrs. Potters house. JKR doesn’t put sentences like that in her books for any reason I believe that we will learn more about not just Lily’s side of the family but James’ as well.
The invisibility cloak was NOT used in this book. Why not? JKR has used it in every other book. 1 to get into the trap door, 2 to go and visit Hagrid and ask him about the monster and his past, 3 t go see Hagrid before Buckbeak was scheduled to be killed, 4 to see the dragons with Hagrid. ¾ times he used his cloak it had something to do with Hagrid. I don’t know if this really has something to do with the cloak but I do find it weird.
At the end of GoF Dumbledore asked if Snape was ready to do what he had to do. He said yes. Later in OoP Harry shouts that it is Snape’s job to find out what Voldy and his death eaters are up to. There isn’t actual proof that Snape is spying on Voldy. The top secret meeting that he was at early in OoP he could very well had made all that stuff up. I know Hermione thinks that Snape has changed and that Dumbledore trusts him but I just don’t know if he really has. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Nion | | personally i think the second one is the right one...but professional the first one is correct because u see things that we don't | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Mike James | |
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Originally posted by uragit
When Harry meets Malfoy in the hall while going out to see Hagrid, Snape said that he was going to take ten points from Gryffindor but then he pointed out that they didn’t have any so he would have to… then he was interrupted my McGonagall saying that they would have to add some more. Surely you can’t be minus points so what was Snape going to do to Harry? |
He was probably going to give them negative points or someting... JKR probably interrupted him so that she wouldn't have to think of something for Snape to do.
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| The invisibility cloak was NOT used in this book. Why not? JKR has used it in every other book. 1 to get into the trap door, 2 to go and visit Hagrid and ask him about the monster and his past, 3 t go see Hagrid before Buckbeak was scheduled to be killed, 4 to see the dragons with Hagrid. ¾ times he used his cloak it had something to do with Hagrid. I don’t know if this really has something to do with the cloak but I do find it weird. |
Who gave then the cloak? I can't remember... 
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| Posted by: Lawless | | Meg, I think that you've brought up some great points. There are a lot of minor characters in the HP stories, and even though they don't have these huge roles, there are things that we need to look at and realize that there is a REASON for every person that JKR has introduced us to. She is really good at thinking about things ahead of time and planting little seeds to see if we will catch the details, or hints.
I think that you could be on to something about Dung being the one that was thrown out of Hogs Head, and that Dumbledore has him in his debt. Hopefully we will find out.
There is no telling WHAT Snape would have done to Harry. But, my theory is that Snape was ONLY going to do something to not lose "face" in front of Draco. Had he done nothing, Draco would have told his dear old daddy, and then, we know what would have happened next. Snape is keeping up an appearance to protect himself, and the Order.
Who's Mark Evans? I don't remember him!!! Should I? 
I don't know why we didn't see Harry using the Invisibility cloak this time around. Maybe he just didn't feel the need. I'm not sure. But, I think that it would have come in handy while going to and from their secret DADA meetings.
I believe that Snape has changed, but he has an attitude about not getting to teach the one class that he desires. Look, he has left Voldemort, and WHO BETTER to teach about fighting off the Dark Lord than someone who once fought at his side and knew Voldemort personally? Also, Snape will never forget how he was treated growing up. James Potter was cruel to him, and so was the rest of his friends. He was probably teased on a daily basis. And, I think that he was in love with Lily. Now, the one girl that he liked ended up with the one guy that degraded him while going through wizarding school... and now, the son of that couple is there, and the memories are surfacing in him. I would have a hard time too. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: uragit | | mark evans is the 10 year old that dudley beat up remember an di was reading something yesterday and they thought that mark would be a relative of harrys. hes 10 and if he has magical blood in him he would be starting hogwarts next year. but that cant be i meen sure go ahead start next year but there is no way that he can be related to harry? is there?:S | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | I'm learning that there are so many possibilities within the wizarding world of Harry Potter, and that JKR can make anything and everything work. So, who knows. Maybe he's just some kid that got beat up, or maybe there is more to him than meets the eye! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Harry used the cloak to sneak into Umbridge's office to use the fire to talk to Sirius about his dad. He put it on to hide when Filtch came in to get the form for whipping the twins. For those of you that need the page, it starts on 668.
"Dashing behind a large usit of armor whose helmet creaked around to watch him, he pulled oen his bag, siezed Sirius's knife, and donned the Invisibility Cloak."
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| Posted by: Lawless | | OH YEAH! You are soooooooooooo right! See, I need to reread the book. We have all forgotten this!!! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Mark Evans, well, has anyone thought that the charachters name is just a red herrings placed by J.K.?  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | Yes, that's possible. I'm sure that the last name isn't a coincidence. After all, there were MILLIONS of last names for JKR to pick from. So, either it's a clue/hint, or she is trying to get us to find things that aren't really going to be important... but puts it in there none-the-less. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Maja88 | | I don't know, JKR usually uses all of these small characters or even just names she mentioned and turns them into something bigger. Like Arabella Figg. And Sirius Black. Both mentioned in book 1. And did you know the Lovegoods are mentioned in book 4? They are the family that's waiting in the camp for 2 weeks for the World Cup Quiddich to start, the ones who live near the Weasleys and Amos Diggory mentiones them once. So I don't think Mark Evans is just a name... i think there is more. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: uragit | | i completly forgot about that part(cloak) and i read the book everyday! i just read it but i didnt see ne thing about the map? did he use that? i cant seem to find ne thing! ne ways something NOT about harry potter! i got a bunch of cool stuff for my b-day nothing potter tho. im in such a good MOOD! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | I didn't remember the Lovegoods mentioned. Good eye.
It would be interesting to go back to book one, and read again, and see if there are things that were mentioned that we haven't noticed were said and in the later books.
It's quite possible that Mark Evans could turn out to be related to Harry. That would be great. I want Harry to have family... REAL family. Not the Dursley's, who have treated him like less than dirt his entire life. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Maja88 | | It's kind of unbelievable, though, that Harry has relatives living in the same block and never hears from them, and they don't even communicate with Dursleys... but still, it's possible. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | Well, maybe they don't know that they are relatives. Or they don't know who Harry is. Anything is possible. AND, if JKR wants to make something out of this, she will find a way of bringing it all together and making it work. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Maja88 | | In book 4, Amos Diggory mentioned that they were staying in the camp for two weeks, waiting for the WC Quidditch to start. When the Weasleys and the Diggorys were traveling by portkey to the World.Cup. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Maja88 | | I don't know anymore, it's like 3rd or 4th. One of the first five. But calm down, they're only mentioned by one word. | | Reply To this Message
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