Just a reminder why the US/UK invaded Iraq |
| Posted by: DaveDom | | Just a reminder of some of the accusations Powell trumpeted at the United Nations Security Council to get us all to agree that we just had to invade Iraq before it was too late. I particularly like no. 3 and the phrase "There can be no doubt...". Maybe Saddam is an actual gen-u-wine magician and just invisibled everything away!
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Powell’s case for war
The climax of the Bush administration’s weapons of mass destruction campaign came on February 5, 2003, when Secretary of State Colin Powell appeared before the United Nations Security Council to present the US government’s case for war. I will cite several passages from his speech:
1. “While we were in this council chamber debating resolution 1441 last fall, we know, we know from sources, that a missile brigade outside Baghdad was dispensing rocket launchers and warheads containing biological warfare agents to various locations in western Iraq.”
2. “We know that Iraq has at least seven of these mobile, biological agent factories. The truck mounted ones have at least two or three trucks each.”
3. “There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more. And he has the ability to disperse these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massive death and destruction.”
4. “Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agents. That is enough to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets.”
5. “Saddam Hussein has chemical weapons ... we have sources who tell us that he recently has authorized his field commanders to use them.”
6. “Iraqi denials of supporting terrorism take their place alongside the other Iraqi denials of weapons of mass destruction. It is all a web of lies.”
7. “Leaving Saddam Hussein in possession of weapons of mass destruction for a few more months or years is not an option, not in the post September 11th world.”
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/war-m07.shtml |
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| Posted by: USA1 | | Dave,
If you had intel on these issues, what would you do? Nothing?
Do you actually believe this was all made up so we could go to Iraq and have our soldiers die for a lie or oil?
Get off this anti-american trip you are on. For some reason, you are blinded and for the life of me I can't figure out how someone could through life with blinders on.
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| Posted by: DaveDom | |
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Originally posted by USA1
Dave,
If you had intel on these issues, what would you do? Nothing?
Do you actually believe this was all made up so we could go to Iraq and have our soldiers die for a lie or oil?
Get off this anti-american trip you are on. For some reason, you are blinded and for the life of me I can't figure out how someone could through life with blinders on.
No matter how many times you push the Post button on this, it doesn't change the facts. |
No this is how it went - Bush and Blair were always going to invade Iraq (one of Blair's Cabinet, now resigned, has recently stated that war was decided september 2002). So war was decided, now they had to find justification for war and they cobbled together anything they could find and that's why the evidence turned out false or at best flimsy.
This is totally the wrong way to go to war and sets a very dangerous president. What happens next time when there is a REAL threat?
Between them, Bush and Blair have done more to demolish what little trust there was left between the public and government than I can ever remember. But then I'm just talking about Britain. Maybe in America things are seen differently.
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| Posted by: USA1 | | Dave,
Then we should have never asked the UN. We should have just done it then for those reasons.
I still stand behind this decision to go to War.
Actually, the planning goes farther back than 2002. We never finished the job in '91. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Charles | |
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| war was decided september 2002 |
Duh.
Do you think we were kidding with 1441? Some obviously were kidding about 1441 and didn't take it seriously.
1441 said there will be war (no more chances at negotiation, discussion, terms, conditions, etc) unless Saddam does a complete about face. To avoid war he would have had to become soooo sweet and nice to compensate for his posturing and actions over the last several decades to convince that any word he uttered could be considered reliable. He didn't come close to this.
No UNSC members tried to argue that this "about face" had been achieved. Months into the process after contradictory reports, illegal weapons, continued support for terrorism, etc., etc., the best that could be said by people doing everything they could to stop US/UK from enforcing 1441 was that some progress was being made on the procedural side.
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| Posted by: ickle | | Of course they decided to go to war in September, 2002. Was there someone on this planet who actually thought Saddam would comply with 1441? (Other the Sean Penn.)
You state this like it was some big conspiracy. You're right, it was a conspriacy to get Saddam out of power. For over ten years, this conspiracy was known as the UNSC. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Charles | |
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Originally posted by gaboman
Yes, we really believe it was made up for the oil  |
Please explain what you mean by "OIL."
Specifically, what was made up for the oil and what do you mean by oil.
Again, I am asking for your opinion.
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