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| Posted by: jono pike | | I totally disagree with the fact that black men like to rape white women thats utter nonsense.
Why should they try and rape them when black men can get white women easily these days, as we would all know, it aint that hard you know, and especially famous black men...............please he could have any white women he wanted, even the really famous ones, damn it he's Kobe Bryant. Its just hard to resist the temptation, its hard enough for me and i have to go after it, imagine when its served on a plate, surprised there aint more cases like this.
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| Posted by: Jeem | |
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Originally posted by jono pike
I totally disagree with the fact that black me like to rape white women thats utter nonsense. |
Why is it nonsense? Statistics say it's true.
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Why should they try and rape them when black men can get white women easily these days, as we would all know, it aint that hard you know, and especially famous black men |
You can say this about any race. So why would anyone commit rape? All rape accusations must be false then.
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...............please he could have any white women he wanted, even the really famous ones, damn it he's Kobe Bryant. |
How many famous white women can you name are with black men? Even famous black men?
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Its just hard to resist the temptation, its hard enough for me and i have to go after it, imagine when its served on a plate, surprised there aint more cases like this.
Kobe is innocent, there is no ways he would do that given his celebrity status!!!! |
So, celebrities can do no wrong? You are making a big error in assuming Kobe is a smart and logical person. From all the facts to date, Kobe is the exact opposite.
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| Posted by: ronnietalk2russ | |
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Why is it nonsense? Statistics say it's true.
You can say this about any race. So why would anyone commit rape? All rape accusations must be false then.
How many famous white women can you name are with black men? Even famous black men?
So, celebrities can do no wrong? You are making a big error in assuming Kobe is a smart and logical person. From all the facts to date, Kobe is the exact opposite. |
...the weather sure is nice.
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| Posted by: arreis | | GET IT STRAIGHT. THESE WHITE HOES THROW THEMSELVES ON ATHLETES- DOES NOT MATTER THE COLOR OF THE ATHLETE JUST AS LONG AS THE COLOR THEY HAVE IN THEIR POCKETS IS GREEN. THESE SCANDELOUS GOLD DIGGING WHORES DESERVE WHAT THEY GET. THEY GO AFTER MONEY AND HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES. WHITE MEN GET MAD WHEN BLACK MEN ARE WITH WHITE WOMEN AND ALWAYS BLAME THE BLACK MAN. START BLAMING YOUR WHORE ACTING WHITE HOES | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | oh yeah and about the famous white women not being with black men, that's easy to explain. Quite often when a black man is dating a white woman or just plain fooling around with her... one of the main reasons he decides to is that white women are generally more docile and submissive than women of color (i know this is a broad generalization, but i've seen it in action 100's of times) Now... if she was a celebrity, superstar multi-millionaire that would kinda defeat the purpose, don't you think? that's my 2 cents why you don't see celebrity white women with black men, a whole chunk of their appeal is gone. I could be wrong... don't flame me too horribly, it's my birthday. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: omari_4me | | This is to JONO PIKE
First of all SOME white women are so money hungry these days. So to answer your question black men don't have to rape white women. I am I black woman. We got everything a white girl has and more. We got the Ass, breast, hips, thighs, and more sweetie so Don't say Black Men rape White women cuz they don't. That was offensive to me and some other Black people here. Why do you just disagree with black men raping white women ITS WRONG TO RAPE PERIOD DOESN"T MATTER WHAT RACE YOU ARE. And Kobe didn't rape her she A CRAZY *****that want some money. You probably white yourself sayin some **** like that.
Do anybody feel me?
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| Posted by: ronjuan80 | | Regarding famous white women dating black men,,, Nicole Kiddman and Leny Kravitz. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: arreis | | Omari I am feeling you. I also am so tired of white women putting themselves on pedalstools. FACT- WHITE WOMEN GO TO EASY BAKE OVENS (TANNING BEDS) TO TRY TO GET BLACK. FACT- WHITE WOMEN HAVE LIP INJECTIONS TO WANT TO BE BLACK. FACT- WHITE WOMEN HAVE ASS AND BREAST IMPLANTS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE BLACK. WHY DO YOU THINK WHEN THEY TAKE PICTURES THEY ALWAYS TRY TO PUISH THEIR NO ASS OUT. FACT- AS LONG AS YOU ARE MAKING MONEY- WHITE WOMEN AND ALSO SOME OTHER WOMEN DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE GREEN. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Youngman | | I would like to say that raping anyone is wrong, but this whole Kobe thing is a big joke and a waste of Colorado taxpayers money. There is seriously no way that he raped that girl. She knew he was married, everyone knows this whether they want to or not. She knew they weren't gonna eat milk and cookies, when she went to his hotel room after midnight. I just find it sad that things like this happen to people in powerful positions, because God knows he could have her and a handful of other females that were way better looking than her for a smile and breakfast in the morning. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Marlene Newell | |
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Originally posted by arreis
GET IT STRAIGHT. THESE WHITE HOES THROW THEMSELVES ON ATHLETES- DOES NOT MATTER THE COLOR OF THE ATHLETE JUST AS LONG AS THE COLOR THEY HAVE IN THEIR POCKETS IS GREEN. THESE SCANDELOUS GOLD DIGGING WHORES DESERVE WHAT THEY GET. THEY GO AFTER MONEY AND HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES. WHITE MEN GET MAD WHEN BLACK MEN ARE WITH WHITE WOMEN AND ALWAYS BLAME THE BLACK MAN. START BLAMING YOUR WHORE ACTING WHITE HOES |
Do you always shout, or do you just not know how to turn off All Caps?
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| Posted by: arreis | |
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Originally posted by Marlene Newell
Do you always shout, or do you just not know how to turn off All Caps? |
IF I WANT TO USE CAPS I CAN. JUST LIKE I THOUGHT YOU MUST BE WHITE MARLENE. ARE YOU AN ENGLISH TEACHER OR CORRECTOR OF THE POSTS? THE POST IS ABOUT KOBE- NOT ABOUT ME AND THE USE OF MY CAPS. SO IF YOU DO NOT LIKE CAPS- DEAL WITH IT. 
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| Posted by: all_da_love | |
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Originally posted by omari_4me
This is to JONO PIKE
First of all SOME white women are so money hungry these days. So to answer your question black men don't have to rape white women. I am I black woman. We got everything a white girl has and more. We got the Ass, breast, hips, thighs, and more sweetie so Don't say Black Men rape White women cuz they don't. That was offensive to me and some other Black people here. Why do you just disagree with black men raping white women ITS WRONG TO RAPE PERIOD DOESN"T MATTER WHAT RACE YOU ARE. And Kobe didn't rape her she A CRAZY ***** that want some money. You probably white yourself sayin some **** like that.
Do anybody feel me?
Keep It Gangsta and Be EASY!! |
i feel ya... all da love!!!
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| Posted by: Lawless | | Marlene and Arreis... as you've said, Arreis, this is a Kobe forum. Let's keep the posts to the topics and the personal comments and digs at each other set aside, in the flamers ward, or pm one another!!!
Yes... posting in ALL CAPS is considered "yelling" in chatrooms and message boards, but since you can't really HEAR the person, don't take it so personally. Maybe they like caps.
And whether a person is white or black, there is no need to make a "racist" comment about that either. If she's white... so what.
Now... shake hands, and back to the topic of this particular thread. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: arreis | | Can't we all just get along. KJPOTTER as with the OJ case. He was aquitted but still considered guilty by white stream america. I wish there was no race problem in the USA or the world. However, there is and in america there has always been a distinct difference in our judicial system. Just like the use of crack cocaine can get you 5 to 10 yrs and repeated offenses can get sentences of life. However, if you are busted for cocaine the more expensive product you do very little time and sometimes probation on first offenses. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | I'm just asking for you to not take person "hot shots" at each other in here. Use the flamers ward for that. Discuss KOBE in here. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jarells_Boo | | Kobe is innocent!!!! and that is all there is too it so everyone can just drop it !!i mean why would he wanna rape some white girl when he already has a beautiful wife !!it just makes so sense and this white girl just wants money | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jeem | |
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Originally posted by Jarells_Boo
Kobe is innocent!!!! and that is all there is too it so everyone can just drop it !!i mean why would he wanna rap some white girl when he already has a beautiful wife !!it just makes so sense and this white girl just wants money |
You are assuming Kobe is a logical person. Look at Hugh Grant, he had Liz Hurley and yet, he still got busted with Devine Brown, a black street prostitute.
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| Posted by: Jeem | | Nothing. I wanted to see if I'd get a response by inserting that she's black. Apparently I did. Kinda strange don't you think? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | well, when you put a qualifier, like stating she is black in a post where it would make total and complete sense w/o mentioning it, you are bringing attention to it. If i payed more attention in english class i'd know exactly what this is called, but the way it was said brought extra attention to the fact that she was black. I just wanted to know why you thought it deserved extra attention. Your answer in shorthand, you wanted to rile somebody up. thanks jeem, you're a swell guy (i still want to know what you meant by calling white women "black man's kryptonite"... i don't experience any loss of power in their presence that i don't go through when a good looking lady of any color is around) | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jeem | | Oh I just thought it was funny by mentioning Devine Brown is black would rile people up more than calling Katelyn Faber a white *****. I am afraid to even imagine how riled up people would be if Devine Brown is referred to as a black *****...
I think you already know what the black man's kryptonite means. I don't think I can do Malcolm Lee any justice by explaining it, you just have to go watch Undercover Brother. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | well, i don't think anybody is THAT riled up over it... i'm the only person who noticed and wanted to know why you found her color so important. I guess if you started getting all derogatory people would get upset. Since you're trolling the boards to upset people though, maybe you should pull out some racial slurs and see if we get mad. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: jrkiv | | In Jeem's defense, this faber girl is called 'some white girl,' 'white *****,' etc. in almost every post. Why does she need a qualifier in front of her name? Also, i've read a ton of posts saying she only went into Kobe's room to experience the huge ***** of a black man, why do these posts get no response when posts saying that kobe couldn't resist a white girl get a ton of heat. THanks for pointing out a double standard jeem, this case should be about personal credibility and medical evidence, if race enters the courtroom i will lose even more faith in our justice system. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: britneyspears | |
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Originally posted by ronnietalk2russ
...the weather sure is nice. |
stats are not true all the time, cause rape is so underreported, and as always the people from the poorest communities have the most open communities. blacks make up less than 15% of the population yet almost all the drug bust are in the inner city, because it is done in the open, there are many more drug houses in the suburbs but police arent about to go busting those houses down, the property values would fall, does this mean because more blacks in poor neiborhoods are arrested for drug possession, that whites who make up 4 times as many people are not doing the same of course not, our legal system can get stats on the poor people much better, and they are usually found guilty with the appointed lawyers, while everything in the suburbs is more hidden and good lawyers get people off. the same can be said for the aids problem dont believe the hype. there is way more white people with the diesease, percentage wise its about the same. but poor people with no health benefits get thier health records raided, while those with private doctors and wealth can keep problems hidden. its more of a wealth thing. so dont believe the stats, if you open your eyes and read between the lines you will see the whole truth.
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| Posted by: britneyspears | |
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Originally posted by jrkiv
In Jeem's defense, this faber girl is called 'some white girl,' 'white *****,' etc. in almost every post. Why does she need a qualifier in front of her name? Also, i've read a ton of posts saying she only went into Kobe's room to experience the huge ***** of a black man, why do these posts get no response when posts saying that kobe couldn't resist a white girl get a ton of heat. THanks for pointing out a double standard jeem, this case should be about personal credibility and medical evidence, if race enters the courtroom i will lose even more faith in our justice system. |
wow i agree with a lot you say, but america is a racist society, both ways, just look at our history, even the vail sheriff admits to stopping only black motorists and paid big bucks recently to settle. when was the last time an all white jury, and thats what it will be, let a black man go for raping a white girl. i think kobe will still win, because $$$$ is the true equalizer.
but you are right, this should not be about race, and we should not be calling kate any derogatory names, and neither kobe, since we know their names, we don't need negative adjectives on either side, but people are so full of emotions and hate and hero worship, that they will call and threaten someone they don't know with death. its sick, just look at all the racist post both ways toward kobe and kate, and you will see how much race will play in this case, even if it is never brought up at trial, the all white jury scares a lot of blacks, cause america has a bad track record just look at la recent cop beating case in la, or the new york guy shot 41 times at his door or the racist flyers in vail. nevertheless, justice can still be done in this case and may pull us closer together more and re-enforce new and better rules and responsiblities when dating and having sex with strangers or on dates, maybe rapes, stds', and pregnatecys' will go down and men and women will be more respectful of each other and their bodies
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| Posted by: ronnietalk2russ | |
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Originally posted by arreis
IF I WANT TO USE CAPS I CAN. JUST LIKE I THOUGHT YOU MUST BE WHITE MARLENE. ARE YOU AN ENGLISH TEACHER OR CORRECTOR OF THE POSTS? THE POST IS ABOUT KOBE- NOT ABOUT ME AND THE USE OF MY CAPS. SO IF YOU DO NOT LIKE CAPS- DEAL WITH IT. |
DITTO! THAT WAS A SILLY POST MARLENE!!!!!!!!!!! 
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| Posted by: Everwill | | If color is only skin deep, then why is it so easy to determine the color of the poster's skin from just a few lines of text?  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | true, our color and the culture that invariably comes with it influences our viewpoints, ideals, and opinions. Color isn't just skin deep, we are all different, and that's fine, we need to learn to live with each other's differences and quit making them points to clash over. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: r6pimp | | It is a well known fact that human beings (black or white) want what they can't have. Ninety-five percent of attractive white women are not attracted to black men, no matter how rich and famous. Just like most white men just can't get it up for a black woman. She told him NO. He could not accept it blew up and forced himself on to this poor, innocent, teenager. It is not easy to have sex with attractive white women, especially if you are black. Attractive white women are very high maintanence (I know because I have one and she is a real pain in my ass, despite her beauty) i repeat: attractive white women are not easy, especially for black men. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: illuminate1 | | Again, white women throw themselves off on black men all the time. That is a stupid ass statement. And I know pleanty of white men that would love a taste of Hallie Berry or Beyonce. Your an idiot, clearly. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | jrk, maybe i live in another dimension or plane of existence than you, because i've seen nothing of that sort going on. Granted i'm only 20 yrs old, and have been at the dating game a shorter time than most, but i've spent all of that time as a military brat or actually enlisted so i've been globe trotting for a while, seeing diff. people in diff. places, talking about things like this, and being an equal opportunity lover, i've come to this conclusion. Black guys and white girls like each other. not in some huge obsessive attraction, but i truly believe that both black guys and white girls know how pissed off the rest of the universe gets when we fool around, and we kinda like that taboo element. saying they're our "kryptonite" or that "white girls can't resist the black male potentcy" is pretty much a load of bull though. And no, we just aren't attracted to the ugly ones, I was dating the cutest white girl on this base before she left for italy (that's a little bit of bragging right there) and i think that 95% that jrk mentioned is probably way off... i think there might be 20-30% (i have noooo facts behind that #, i just know too many white girl who like white guys for it to be higher than that) in both black men and white girls that only date within their own race. eh... im done, that's just my take on the situation. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | wow... it was all erased... like it never happened... the mods work in mysterious ways. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: jrkiv | | Elka was your last post directed to me? I don't think i've written anything regarding interacial relationships. Which post of mine did you take issue with? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | elka... that stuff was removed because it was pure biogtry and hatred. We don't want or need that on here. And that person has been removed. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: illuminate1 | | Thanks for jumping on that so quickly BTW... DIdn't know how much more I could take!
Oh and JRKIV Im pretty sure it was a response to Jeem, but his post seems to have been removed.. ?? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | No problem... as soon as I saw his name on here, I went and grabbed the senior mod, and the admin. Most posts have been removed... and his name has been changed to IamStoopid. I believe that he's been banned as well. I wouldn't want to keep coming around though with that name. And yes, his posts were disgusting and so racial that I was just beyond shocked. That's a lot of hate to have inside yourself. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: ojibber | | Hmmm so what if a woman of color accused a well known white NBA player of rape? How would that fare or would it? I'm new here and a woman of color and have been reading all the posts. It's hard for me to say if he's guilty or not all I can say is what a dumb ass he had a beautiful brown wife waitin for him at home and he had to go jeopardize his whole life just cuz he was thinkin with the wrong head that night. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: illuminate1 | | Thing is ojibber, there are lots of beautiful married women who get cheated on all the time. Its stupid, but its life. It kinda goes along with his line of business, groupies and all. Its the reason I would never mess with an athlete.. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jeem | |
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Originally posted by illuminate1
Thanks for jumping on that so quickly BTW... DIdn't know how much more I could take!
Oh and JRKIV Im pretty sure it was a response to Jeem, but his post seems to have been removed.. ?? |
Huh?
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| Posted by: illuminate1 | |
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Originally posted by Jeem
Huh? |
Sorry Jeem! I didn't mean you..
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| Posted by: one and only | |
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Originally posted by Jeem
Oh I just thought it was funny by mentioning Devine Brown is black would rile people up more than calling Katelyn Faber a white *****. I am afraid to even imagine how riled up people would be if Devine Brown is referred to as a black *****...
I think you already know what the black man's kryptonite means. I don't think I can do Malcolm Lee any justice by explaining it, you just have to go watch Undercover Brother. |
You know what Jeem you are pretty tough behind your computer screen, have you had the opportunity to let a black person know how you feel about them personally. Cowards like you are pathetic.
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | jeems an alright guy actually... just freakishly ignorant and afraid of black men talking all the white women. Don't ask him to explain why though, he won't tell you. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: one and only | | Oh, I see, well he won't have to worry about any of the men in my family or circle of friends pursing any white women. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | see jeem, we don't all want your white chicks, let alone prefer them. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jeem | |
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You know what Jeem you are pretty tough behind your computer screen, have you had the opportunity to let a black person know how you feel about them personally. Cowards like you are pathetic. |
So, how do I feel about black people personally?
Are you suggesting black people are violent and unable to behave in a civil manner?
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| Posted by: Jeem | |
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Originally posted by elkabong2k
see jeem, we don't all want your white chicks, let alone prefer them. |
I wasn't talking about anyone from Compton. I was talking about those who are rich, famous and successful.
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| Posted by: Jeem | |
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Originally posted by elkabong2k
jeems an alright guy actually... just freakishly ignorant and afraid of black men talking all the white women. Don't ask him to explain why though, he won't tell you. |
Why do you think I am afriad of black men taking white women? I thought I already explained it to you.
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | you didn't explain anything, you even refused to state exactly what you meant in the first place. Where did you get anything at all about violence in one and only's post? You have no points to actually make on your own... you just quote other people and hope to make them look wrong, and think that makes you right by default. You have to take a stand on a viewpoint to win an argument jeem. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: one and only | | Jeem you are a poor pathetic creature, one who is in desperate need of professional help. What do you know about being rich, famous and successful, only how to spell them. Get a life | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hockeybear | | what a joke this kobe bryant - you just can't rape a white girl if she says no
Obviously Kobe can't get women since his wife has now filed for divorce from him
he should just go get those street walkers and leave the pure **** women alone
Of course, when he is convicted in colorado and sent to 2 years in jail - those prisoners in Florence will rape him so many times he will never rape again if he is ever released
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| Posted by: one and only | | Let's just wait and see after the trial, who's going to jail. It won't be Kobe. Even after all this, he still won't have to get a street walker. Do you have first hand knowledge of what happens to prisoners in Florence? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | the bigoted post was by a guy from denver... This shows you the midwestern mindset... the "heartland of america" is racist as ****, and Kobe's going to jail wether he did it or not. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: CaptAhab | |
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Why is it nonsense? Statistics say it's true.
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Statistics?! What statistics? No they don't either.
Your night too bright are you.
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| Posted by: flapbreaker | | From a white dude in Oregon.
I personally don't believe that Kobe raped anyone (Even though I don't like Kobe - I think he is arrogant). Let's face it. He is a superstar and doesn't need to rape women to get a little poonany, if you know what I mean. He could have a women every night if he wanted. There are plenty of women with low self esteem out there ready to be with him.
Back in the mid 90's some of the Portland trailblazers got in trouble in salt lake city because they tapped some under aged girls in their hotel room. A couple of them went to the police, obviously to get some money out of them. Lucky for the Blazers one of the girls that didn't participate but was there confirmed that the girls lied about their age to the blazers. Anyway it's a shame that a person can be accused of Rape and pretty much you are guilty and the burden is on you to prove that you didn't do it. Mean while the accuser doesn't even have to show up to court, and their background is often not admissible in court. Sheez.
Who else thinks this Kobe, Shaq feud thing was fabricated by the PR people just to take the focus off of Kobe's courtroom drama? It sure worked. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: one and only | | Finally, someone white who thinks Kobe is innocent. Thanks for your support. I personally agree with everything you've said. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. I wouldn't be surprised if someone in her family put her up to it. She probably bragged about sleeping with the one and only Kobe Bryant, and someone told her "Girl, say you were raped, and let's get some money." Kobe's attorney is very brilliant and will break her down on that witness stand, believe that. The girl is not mentally stable enough to have come up with this scheme by herself. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: elkabong2k | | i don't think it's fabricated... the man's been expressing dissatisfaction w/shaq for a while. people don't hold that **** in when they're stressed. and hes in a stressing situation. i think it's real beef. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: flapbreaker | |
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i don't think it's fabricated... the man's been expressing dissatisfaction w/shaq for a while. people don't hold that **** in when they're stressed. and hes in a stressing situation. i think it's real beef. |
I suppose you could be right. The timing just seemed suspect, even though it's no secret that Kobe and Shaq don't get along. It could be that Kobe sees basketball a little differently (and life for that matter) now. And maybe he is more willing to speak his mind and let a little anger out. Good point.
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| Posted by: Jeem | |
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Originally posted by hockeybear
Obviously Kobe can't get women since his wife has now filed for divorce from him
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Is this true?
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| Posted by: one and only | | Is what true, you know Kobe can get just about any woman he wants... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: chezwhitey | | No it's not Jeem. The burden of proof should lie with the prosecution and not the defense. This girl is promiscuous to say the least, and I can't stand that her past isn't allowed to come into play. If she has a history of being sneaky, caniving, mentally unstable, and a liar when it comes to relationships that all should have a bearing on the case. If Kobe ends up serving a little time or pays some fines because he was too rough I can understand that. We don't know if the bruises on her neck were caused by Kobe or not but hopefully the doctors on both sides did their jobs well and could tell us definately yes or no. Other than that everything is circumstancial. With regard to that nonsense between Shaq and Kobe it won't matter. Shaq will be in LA no matter what until he wants to retire. Either Kobe will decide he wants the challenge of having his "own" team or his competitive nature will keep him lined up next to the man who can make his life the easiest on the court and gives him the best chance to win a title. Either way I think his decision will be fueled by his competetive drive and not by this war of words. In fact, a few weeks ago Shaq was talking about how some of the rift between them was concocted and that he felt like Kobe's big brother. I agree that all of this stuff was made up to give the media something else to talk about or to give Kobe and/or Shaq an attitude they can bring with them to the court. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jeem | | I wasn't talking about whether he raped the girl or not. Personally, I don't believe whatever they did is rape anyway. I was merely asking if what the other guy posted, that his wife has filed for divorce is true or not. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: chezwhitey | | I know, you quoted what you wanted an answer to. That's why I mentioned your name in that part of the response. The rest is just going along with other points and questions from this thread. Sorry to be confusing. | | Reply To this Message
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Originally posted by omari_4me
This is to JONO PIKE
First of all SOME white women are so money hungry these days. So to answer your question black men don't have to rape white women. I am I black woman. We got everything a white girl has and more. We got the Ass, breast, hips, thighs, and more sweetie so Don't say Black Men rape White women cuz they don't. That was offensive to me and some other Black people here. Why do you just disaggree with black men raping white women ITS WRONG TO RAPE PERIOD DOESN"T MATTER WHAT RACE YOU ARE. And Kobe didn't rape her she A CRAZY ***** that want some money. You probably white yourself sayin some **** like that.
Do anybody feel me?
Keep It Gangsta and Be EASY!!
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I TOTALLY FEEL YOU. WHITE MEN RAPED OUR BLACK WOMEN IN SLAVERY DAYS!!!SO WHO GAVE A DAMN ABOUT THAT, NOW IT'S A BIG DEAL BECAUSE A WHITE WOMAN IS CLAIMING TO HAVE BEEN RAPED BY AN AFRO-AMERICAN MAN, COME ON ALL ''YOU'' PEOPLE GET REAL, STOP DEFENDING LITTLE MISS INNOCENT, OR ARE YOU PROMISED SOME OF THE BLOOD MONEY???
What the ****????!!! First of all, I'd like to say that it's comments like the ones above that keep a good number of white folks hating on the brothas and sistas. You don't have to be white to be a racist and some of the comments above prove that.
Second, I am getting fed up with black members of our generation talking about slavery. Nobody alive today was a slave, your parents weren't slaves, and your parent's parents weren't slaves. Chances are, your great grandparents weren't slaves either. If you want to talk about racial inequality today, then feel free because it does exist. Just don't talk about **** that went on nearly two hundred years ago that has ZERO effect on YOUR life today.
Third, nobody really knows what happened in the hotel room that night except Kobe and whatever her name is. It is up to the prosecution to prove Kobe did it beyond a reasonable doubt. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But for all you people that think you know who Kobe is because you've watched a few games and seen his Sprite commercial is complete nonsense. People who claim Kobe couldn't have done it because he's a "good guy" and a "good hoops player" are morons. You don't know Kobe any better than I do and have no real logic behind those statements.
I personally believe a little bit of both occurred that night and do think Kobe will be found innocent. Based on the evidence that has been presented so far, I would vote for not guilty if I were on the jury. As far as I can tell, the worst thing Kobe did was commit adultery and I don't know of any states where committing adultery brings a sentence of jail time.
And guess what, I'm white.
So stop "hatin'" on us white folks and focus on the issues themselves. And stop using slavery and reverse racsim as a crutch to get you through life. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: one and only | | First of all bradh, this is an open forum and people express their opinions, so you can not tell people what to talk about and what not to talk about. It's true real slavery happened hundreds of years ago, but there are so many people who still share those same feelings, and have no problems voicing them. I for one am not using this to get through life, I have two college degrees and am quite successful. I'm just telling it like it is, whether you want to accept it or not racism is alive and most of the time it's undercover, that's the scary part. People at work or school will laugh in your face, and when you turn your back they make a racist remark. I am not a racist, I am just speaking reality. I know not all whites feel this way I'm speaking of the ones that do. Oh by the way, I believe Kobe will be found innocent. Have a wonderful day. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: bradh | | One...
Yes, you are right. This is an open forum - you shared your views and I shared mine. While I cannot tell people what to say or not say, I can certainly express my agreement, dismay or disgust with someone else's thoughts.
As I stated in my posting, I do believe racial inequality exists today. However, I don't think that slavery needs to be brought up in topics concerning current events and slavery has absolutely no bearing on Kobe Bryant's dilemma. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: chelktty | | Wow I can't count the number of time's I was referred to with a racist remark. I was taunted and provoked in High School, I was threatened and assaulted because of my skin color.
You guys are right, racism is alive and well in the USA. But even though certain people chose to be ignorant and abusive towards me in my life, it hasn't tarnished my perspective on any particular group or spawned any racist ideas in me. (BTW I'm a white female who went to a primarily black and hispanic school in Colorado, of all places)
Slavery happens to be a very sinister part of our country's history. It happens to be a sinister part of every country's history. If we went back far enough, I could probably bring suit on Britain's royal family because their ancestors had slaves who were my ancestors. People need to stop using centuries old slavory as their crutch for not being productive members of society. When someone says to me "your people enslaved my people" I have to correct them by informing them that my family fed, housed and hid the slaves escaping to the North on the underground railroad. B!tching about slavory just gives someone an excuse to be a racist themselves.
Now back to the topic, yes, ALL women (including white women) do get raped by black men, white men, hispanic men, oriental men etc. It's not the color of the rapist's skin that makes him a criminal, it's his mentality and motivation to commit that act of violence.
Whether Kobe actually raped this girl is something that we'll find out at trial.
In my personal opinion, I don't think he raped her. I think it seems like she planned it in order to extort money from a wealthy celebrity basketball player. For me there is just too much evidence pointing to the fact that her "injuries" could have been caused by another sexual partner. (Didn't she go the the hospital 2 days later to be examined for the alleged rape wearing panties that contained 2 other men's semen?) What happened between the time that the alleged assault took place and she actually reported it and went in for forensic examination? The fact of the matter is that no one will know for sure until the truth comes out during the trial.
To defend Kobe, not based on the evidence but based souly on the fact that he's black and his accuser is some "lying a$$ white b!tch" is only demonstrating that those using statements like that are nothing more that racists themselves. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: one and only | |
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Originally posted by bradh
One...Here's the bottom line, you have your opinion and others have theirs, so leave it at that.
Yes, you are right. This is an open forum - you shared your views and I shared mine. While I cannot tell people what to say or not say, I can certainly express my agreement, dismay or disgust with someone else's thoughts.
As I stated in my posting, I do believe racial inequality exists today. However, I don't think that slavery needs to be brought up in topics concerning current events and slavery has absolutely no bearing on Kobe Bryant's dilemma. |
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| Posted by: seal3k | | yea black women have the same things as white women and more,... A WHOLE LOT MORE!!!!!!!!!!, thats including an ATTITUDE.
men rape women color makes no difference.
they are women who act like they get raped, color makes no difference , oh yea my bad greeeeeeeeeeeen! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | |
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chelktty said this in post #72 :
Wow I can't count the number of time's I was referred to with a racist remark. I was taunted and provoked in High School, I was threatened and assaulted because of my skin color.
You guys are right, racism is alive and well in the USA. But even though certain people chose to be ignorant and abusive towards me in my life, it hasn't tarnished my perspective on any particular group or spawned any racist ideas in me. (BTW I'm a white female who went to a primarily black and hispanic school in Colorado, of all places)...
In my personal opinion, I don't think he raped her. I think it seems like she planned it in order to extort money from a wealthy celebrity basketball player. For me there is just too much evidence pointing to the fact that her "injuries" could have been caused by another sexual partner. (Didn't she go the the hospital 2 days later to be examined for the alleged rape wearing panties that contained 2 other men's semen?) What happened between the time that the alleged assault took place and she actually reported it and went in for forensic examination? The fact of the matter is that no one will know for sure until the truth comes out during the trial. To defend Kobe, not based on the evidence but based souly on the fact that he's black and his accuser is some "lying a$$ white b!tch" is only demonstrating that those using statements like that are nothing more that racists themselves. |
You go girl. Wonder why the media is spitting out to incite the masses about racial conflicts every hour on the hour ? Amazingly they're just lighting the matches on TV, the magazines, newspaper and talk show radio. Everyone is up in arms and splitting the country down racial lines . Just disgusting and irresponsible journalism, $$$ all about ratings $$$.
http://www.kobetimes.com/news_images/400_jusgeriegle01.jpg I like to see more constructive efforts in promoting an understanding between the races and developing more respect for humanity. Meanwhile, we can laugh a little, cry a little at the BB.... at the court of public opinion. The final court decision is Kobe will NOT be found guilty - at most a hung jury. The State of Colorado is another mess like California. Makes for nice entertainment. Another dunkin donut cop case. <--- Just Click Here
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Excerpts By JON SARCHE\Associated Press Writer
DENVER (AP) -- Let the paper war begin: The judge in the Kobe Bryant rape case has given attorneys a month to lay out their positions on such things as whether the jury should be allowed to hear about the accuser's sex life and mental health. Such fights over evidence and testimony could prove crucial later at the NBA star's trial. "Team Kobe's biggest worry now is a hung jury," said Denver attorney Craig Silverman, a former prosecutor. "After the preliminary hearing, it doesn't look like 12 people would convict him. At the same time, it's very hard to convince all 12 people to vote not guilty. If he wins these motions hearings, it could reduce the likelihood of a hung jury..."
Stan Goldman, a professor at Loyola Law School-Los Angeles, said the defense will want to argue that Bryant's 19-year-old accuser was mentally and emotionally unstable, that she was promiscuous and that she expected Bryant to make sexual advances. Prosecutors have indicated they will try to keep such evidence away from the jury. "In my opinion, that is the far more relevant and potentially compelling evidence -- if true -- about why in this he-said, she-said context we should believe he instead of she," Goldman said. |
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| Posted by: Teddy | | Can anyone submit a valid argument here? No one knows what happened in that hotel except the two parties involved. Stop the black-white thing for a second and put on your grownup cap...please. Fact, Kobe had no business in the room with that woman. Men, keep using the wrong head and you will pay dearly. I'm not going to say Kobe deserves what's happening to him right now. He made his bed, and now he has to sleep in it. As for Katie, she is in the same boat. What was she expecting? People like her are awe struck when in the company of such a person. Not saying she deserved what happened to her, but she had no business catering outside the norm when she is fully aware that he is married, and he is high profile, which translates into 50-50 that he will behave accordingly. White women are raped by black men no more than black women are raped by white men. No white man has ever raised hell when a black women was raped by a white man. And I see no such argument when a white woman is raped by a black man. In fact, I see nothing from either side of the coin except a lot of generalizations flying around. Blame the culprit and not the group. White women are no more loose than black women. Black men are no more unfaithful or prone to commit raoe than White men. One thing is for certain...there is still an oder in the air regarding procecution. The prison system is full of Black and Latino men that never get the benifit of the doubt. O.J. being the exception I guess. Black or White, I want rapist and murderers put away. Big booty's are not always attractive, flat ones as well. Big boobs are not what all men want as well as flat chested. Some white men like dark women, some Black men like light complected women. Why does it have to be a contest? Black women have nothing on White women and the same goes for White women. How can anyone say one is better than the other? INVALID!!! What ever you may like, you should be free to pursue. If you want to stay within your race, then do so. We don't need to hear anybody's preference or logic which are commonly void of facts. Kobe's wife is the real victim here. Katie's family too. Both were selfish cheaters and home wreckers. I have never dated a white woman, but I do find them to just as attractive as Black women. I also don't find the logic that one is any weaker or stronger than the other. Both have their faults as well as virtue. Looks liek we are all racist because we can't see past the color. Weak...very weak! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: bonn | | Can anyone submit a valid argument here? No one knows what happened in that hotel except the two parties involved. Stop the black-white thing for a second and put on your grownup cap...please. Fact, Kobe had no business in the room with that woman. Men, keep using the wrong head and you will pay dearly .......... What more can you say Teddy, you have literally said it all! But then, you try telling that to the average white Jo in the street. I am sorry to have to bring race into it but this is the truth. Ask OJ Simpson. What every black person worth their salt wants to make sure is that Kobe gets a fair and even trial. As you are well aware white people have always had a massive problem when it comes to black people and when a situation like this occurs then you can bet your bottom dollar that the white media and the whole of white society on the whole are going to jump on this bandwagon and make one hell of an issue out of it. It is (unfortunately) in the nature of the beast that calls itself the mainstream. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | | Let's look at this outside of the box. What if Kobe was a WASP? Would Kate's mother and father accept it more and NOT have forced Kate to cry rape? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: bonn | | Let's look at this outside of the box. What if Kobe was a WASP? Would Kate's mother and father accept it more and NOT have forced Kate to cry rape?
Hello Ken NJ, The problem, is that their are no black W.A.S.P.s in America, or shall we call them B.A.S.P. There isn't even an equivalent. That, is why, it is so hard to make a comparison, in regard to Bryant Kobe. Yes, there are plenty of middle and upper middle class African Americans, but an African American aristocracy? I don't think so. If i am wrong about all this, then i am sorry. I just thought it would be a good idea to bring this up. | | Reply To this Message
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Hello Ken NJ, The problem, is that their are no black W.A.S.P.s in America, or shall we call them B.A.S.P. There isn't even an equivalent. That, is why, it is so hard to make a comparison, in regard to Bryant Kobe. Yes, there are plenty of middle and upper middle class African Americans, but an African American aristocracy? I don't think so. If i am wrong about all this, then i am sorry. I just thought it would be a good idea to bring this up. |
Hello bonn! The point I was making was that boy-girl dating relationships happen million times per day, 365 days a year and in each and every country. I'm almost certain that this Kobe-Kate affair is NOT unusal for which many other groups like WASPs would never see the day of light as to a criminal prosecution over "he said, she said." Do we really care to know? It's nothing but between the two. If she wants to sue his pants off, so be it.
http://www.basket-ball.com/IMG/jpg/kate30_yearbookpic2-photoshoped.jpg Kate wanted Kobe. Kobe is a prominent black millionaire, whom poor whites would love to reverse their fortune. But for the State to use millions of taxpayer money to put away the guy for like 20 years over some misunderstanding between two adults over questionable consent? There is NO question that she decided to knock on his hotel room door and voluntarily walked in, then disrobed, showed her tatoo, kissed him and things ensued. Kate has options and alternatives, but to manipulate the DA's Office for a private matter? Hello?
1 It is a fact, is it not that Kate has had consenting relationships with more than one young men, all whom are WASPs?
2. It is a fact, is it not that Kate has so many earlier relationships with kids whom she had second thoughts after and they had NO money to sue for damage. They were white trash boys whom mom and dad didn't want to sue for nothing, because they were poor.
3. It is a fact, is it not that Kate KNEW in advance who Kobe is and decided to go to his hotel room near midnight for a romantic interlude, but after consenting for some minutes decided to withdraw her consent. Is it not a fact, Kobe agreed to stop and she left voluntarily? But then she told mom and they conceived a plan to get revenge, extraction and extortion. The Fabers USED the public offices to help justify the ends to their means.
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| Posted by: chelktty | | Bonn I think it's the server that hosts INReview. It's slow for me too, I bet it's that way for everyone. | | Reply To this Message
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Hello Ken NJ. I will reply to your thread as soon as someone is able to point out to me just what the hell is going on. For the past two hours, i have been having great difficulty down loading this forum. For some reason, it is really really slow. I have checked with my (ISP) and they have said that the fault does not appear to be coming from my end. I have tried to post my threads six times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they have all blanked out on me. Is any one else experiencing similar problems???????? |
It's not your computer or your side of the server, the same is happening to me hundreds of time for the last two months, almost daily. Sometimes, I've lost postings repeatedly just like you today. Very frustrating indeed, and it isn't my ISP because all the other Internet sites work just fine, except INReview.
Just keep trying.... like in the wee-wee hours of the night. I found that's when I can get on and respond sometimes. Many people are frustrated and leaving this BB. Hope it doesn't crash soon, because evers since the avatars started about a month ago, things started going wacky and funny.
Now back to blacks can't be WASP even a rich person like Kobe. Kate's parents would have LOVED Kobe dating their daughter had he been a person from a different background. Too bad, Kobe can't change from what he cannot. Everyone in town knows Kate and Kate's been with more people than the local high school football team.
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| Posted by: bonn | | Thank you for your observations regarding network problems. It is so fustrating. You put a great deal of effort in writing these threads and they keep crashing on you! It is so annoying! I try not to get too angry, but you know how it feels when you are constantly having to rewrite threads. I know at times the network can go slow, but in my case it has been unusually so. And it has been like this for the past four days. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: bonn | | This is precisely what i find extremely worrying about the Bryant Kobe. It is his background. I feel the only reason why OJ Simpson escaped a jail sentence was the way in which he came across in the eyes of white America. He fitted the perfect image of the Wasp. He was supposedly non threatening and he was and still is always very eager to please. At one time he was described quite bluntly in the American press as being similar to the (house n****** of old) Despite what has happened OJ is still able to go to the privilaged establishments which are frequented by whites. Even though his earnings have seriously declined. Bryant Kobe, quite clearly does not fit this image what so ever. And more importantly, why should he. Never the less the ball is clearly not going to be in his corner for precisely this reason. Because of the image in which he projects. The image of the ghetto boy! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: bonn | | Thank you very, very much for your OJ Simpson postings. To put it quite bluntly, they are down right incredable! I will get back to on my verdict! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | | Bonn, Oxford welcomed OJ after the verdict, but Simpson can't find anyone willing to do the same in America. Isn't that ironic? OJ is an American institution, but for the false prosecution of him for which OJ isn't the real killer.
But then again, many Americans would rather hold OJ accountable because the LAPD and LADA smeared his name as a meanie with his former hot-headed Nicole. When you look back, that is the same way the Eagleton cops and the DA are treating Kobe in the same manner. Kate is another mental case, suffering from bi-polar disorder. She had to be treated several times for a number of medical and mental reasons in a rehab center. Perhaps, she was delusional anxiously waiting to meet Kobe that night and was experiencing tearing while she was fornicating with Kobe. The DAs should have known that from the facts surrounding the case. When the jurors figured that out, they'll find Kobe NOT guilty likewise as OJ. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Joey2276 | | yeah similar to OJ.......you can take the man out of the jungle; but you can't take the jungle out of the man.. This girl has lost everything; she has death threats daily; she is up against the top lawyers money can buy. She KNOWS she will probably lose the case. Put yourself in her shoes. Would you press charges if nothing happened? The physical evidence is overwhelming against Kobe; why else would his lawyers be trying so desperately to have it deemed inadmissable because there were some technical errors in its collection? Only way is if it points to his guilt. Its a he said/she said deal; so since lye detectors are not typically used we'll see what the forensic evidence says and if the second dream team can hypnotize the jury and put doubt in their minds.
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| Posted by: bonn | | It is like what many people have been saying on this forum.Why would a successful sports personality like Bryant Kobe want to commit rape? He could practically have any woman he wanted. The only mistake he made, was to lower his standards, by bedding a woman who has had more trains up her, than the mid west line! Oportunists come in all shapes and sizes and colours too! This woman is digusting! she is a nasty piece of work, and it shows! As far as i am concerned, this girl brought about her own down fall. Why? because she like her family are greedy. They think the whole wide world owes them a living. Well i have got news for them, it doesn't. | | Reply To this Message
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Thank you for your observations regarding network problems. It is so fustrating. You put a great deal of effort in writing these threads and they keep crashing on you! It is so annoying! I try not to get too angry, but you know how it feels when yo |
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