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Posted by: steve nix

No media stated that Katelyn Faber screamed. Why didn't she? Even after she left the room she could have screamed.

Why would a girl that had just met a person go to his room?
To play cards? I doubt it.

I do believe he forced her due to the statement made by the bell hop.......'she was shook up and had red marks on her neck and face'.

This case should be just a measdomeaner and not a feloney due to women in the United States can now legally murder their own innocent unborn babies.

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Posted by: ronnietalk2russ

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Originally posted by steve nix
No media stated that Katelyn Faber screamed. Why didn't she? Even after she left the room she could have screamed.

Why would a girl that had just met a person go to his room?
To play cards? I doubt it.

I do believe he forced her due to the statement made by the bell hop.......'she was shook up and had red marks on her neck and face'.

This case should be just a measdomeaner and not a feloney due to women in the United States can now legally murder their own innocent unborn babies.


I know. That's all she would of had to do if she was being raped or if he was blocking the door. "Let me out or I'll scream". People would have heard and she would of had a stronger case. That's what many rape advocates and self-defense instructors advise---SCREAM. But Katelyn Faber...hmmm. She's quite questionable.
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Posted by: steve nix

I have read that she has had death threats

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Posted by: Jeem

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Originally posted by ronnietalk2russ


I know. That's all she would of had to do if she was being raped or if he was blocking the door. "Let me out or I'll scream". People would have heard and she would of had a stronger case. That's what many rape advocates and self-defense instructors advise---SCREAM. But Katelyn Faber...hmmm. She's quite questionable.


Yes absolutely. The fact that no reports of anyone hearing her scream proves Kobe's innocence.
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Posted by: kaa659

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Originally posted by Jeem


Yes absolutely. The fact that no reports of anyone hearing her scream proves Kobe's innocence.


I have to assume that all of the expertise about screaming must be coming from only people who have been raped. Otherwise, how do you all know what she could have or should have done?

It's impossible for any of us to say how this unfortunate girl should have reacted unless we walked in her shoes.

I have always thought that Kobe Bryant is a class act, but if he did it, he did it!

A legitimate trial without the "race card" and without the sensationalism of the media is in order. This is impossible, but it is really what's needed if there is to be justice.

These are two human beings! That's all!
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Posted by: Jeem

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Originally posted by kaa659
I have to assume that all of the expertise about screaming must be coming from only people who have been raped. Otherwise, how do you all know what she could have or should have done?


It was a sarcastic replay to RonnieRussie's logic that no one heard her scream, so she must have lied!!
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Posted by: kaa659

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Originally posted by Jeem


It was a sarcastic replay to RonnieRussie's logic that no one heard her scream, so she must have lied!!




Oops! Sorry! I responded to the wrong quote. Mine too was sarcasm intended for Russie.
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Posted by: steve nix

It is going to be his word against hers in court. Evidence will play a part of the trial. I know if I were a juror..... I would want to know why she did not scream. Why, if she did it, talk about Kobe's anatomy at a party. I believe that he may have assaulted her, but you have to make sure before you send someone to prison for possibly life. This really should be a misdemeanor case.

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Posted by: Jeem

Which charge would be misdemeanor? False imprisonment? Sex resulting from false imprisonment would mean rape no? And that would be a felony.

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Posted by: MetaLuna

Screaming does not automatically go with rape. There are any number of circumstances that would lead to a girl keeping quiet. One - date rape, when you say no but sometimes everything happens so fast you don't realize that you're even being raped until he's almost finished. (Then later you feel totally humiliated and wish you had screamed or at least kicked him in the balls.)
Two - when the rapist is threatening you, and you don't scream because you're afraid.
Three - if it simply doesn't occur to you. Not all women (myself included) scream for help instinctively.

Rape, by the way, should NEVER be a misdemeanor. I understand how upsetting it is to be falsely accused of rape, and I know that women tend to have the upper hand in these cases (IF it's a false accusation), because my husband was falsely accused of rape by his ex girlfriend. He couldn't rape someone if his life depended on it, and he was thoroughly disgusted, angered, and hurt that someone accused him. And yet I still maintain that rape should be a felony because if you have ever actually been raped, then you know just how traumatizing it can be. It's painful, humiliating, and can be dangerous or even life threatening.

I imagine that if Kobe DID rape this girl, it was date rape. She came willingly to his bedroom, after all.

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Posted by: ronnietalk2russ

If someone is harming a person in a quiet environment the best thing for the person to do is scream and call attention to what's transpiring. That's common sense. That's Crime Victimization 101. Do you need to read a stat to comprehend? But, again...I stress to thee...Katelyn is oh so questionable. Furthermore, I never (read again, please, thoroughly next time) said he was "innocent" as a result of her not screaming. I simply said she would have had a "stronger case" as a result of potentially more witnesses. Think!

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Posted by: MetaLuna

Screaming does not go hand in hand with ANY crime, ESPECIALLY rape. If you read your "stats," you know then that women who scream "RAPE" don't get help. Actually, we're told to shout "FIRE", and it still isn't guaranteed to help.

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Posted by: ronnietalk2russ

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Originally posted by kaa659


It's impossible for any of us to say how this unfortunate girl should have reacted unless we walked in her shoes.



"...this unfortunate girl"-wow, you (like soooo many others ) have virtually thrown Kobe in the slammer. What if she lied? You sure haven't tossed any sympathetic adjectives Kobe's way. Be fair! At this point, the ONLY reason I'd call her "unfortunate" is because she's tried to kill herself twice and is, obviously, mentally unstable.
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Posted by: steve nix

I understand the problems you are confronted with. What you will have to accept is the decision made by the jurors, unless overturned by an appeal. It is going to depend on what the jurors will state as guilty or not guilty. It is not going to matter what you or I state as an opinion, but what the jurors make a decision on.

He may or may not be guilty.... people are convicted of crimes that they never committed..... all the time in this country.

I still say that he forced himself on Katelyn Faber.


So what! That's not life in prison.

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Posted by: MetaLuna

One way or another, I feel sorry for this girl. Not sorry enough to want to put her in jail for a few nights if she's lying, but sorry nonetheless. And if she actually were raped, given the circumstances, I feel bad for her but I would also tell her "Next time, feel free to scratch his eyes out."

Women are raised to be too submissive... we're afraid to say no sometimes, and even if we do say no, guys (particularly the "traditional" kind) don't listen. So it's possible she said no, Kobe didn't listen, and later she realized it was rape. However, it's definitely not a very violent rape, and I don't think that Kobe should be taken to the ringer for it.

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Posted by: earlybird

The last posting cries "But, what if she lied?" The only lie that I have heard, officially, happened the next evening when Kobe was being questioned and denied even knowing the accuser until he was taken to the hospital to have a DNA sample taken. He then "remembered" that he had had consensual sex with her the evening before.
He couldn't have been trying to be the gallant male trying to protect the poor little girl's reputation. He already knew that she had accused him. He was just lying until he knew he was caught.
Then he expects everyone to believe the second story when both stories are obviously trying to convince everyone that 'poor Kobe didn't do anything wrong."
It's hard to believe the second story when he admits the first was a lie.

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Posted by: miawilliams

I think this: I don`t think that Kobe Bryant is so STUPID to force someone, I mean, he has to know what is or not RAPE right, what I'm trying to say is that rape is for someother kind of men, I don't think that he could do something like that 'cause he's a pulic person, he wouldn't dirt his image like that, for the other side if anybody heard her screaming how we can be sure of what she said, that's silly, I don't believe at all.

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