Who is Tony Blair and what is New Labour all about?

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Ahoy everybody,

Can anybody work out who Blair is, and what goes on behind that inane smile of his?

Is New Labour just a business machine? A performing monkey for corporate superpowers to hitch a ride to richdom?

Preston Likely

You cats in the US cannot imagine how unpopular Blair is here in Britainshire at this moment in time. Labour has lost its majestic and untouchable gloss, and there's nothing left beneath the veneer except shallow spin, lies, and a large cheesy smile that appears to have been surgically grafted on to Blair's face (his face has now become a masque that has eaten away his identity, and nobody with any powers of perceptive intelligence knows who or what the man is all about).

Blair, according to Greg Palast, has sold his soul to the free market. He imagines that the large transnational corporations will be the panacea to worldly problems. His evangelical utopian dream is built upon the maxim: "message is more important than content".

Blair has taken Thatcherism (Social Darwinism) to new heights. He adores the anything goes, no boundaries, pure and unadulterated competition without governmental regulations. It's competition to destruction.

Ironically, even though Thatcher called herself a social Darwinist, Darwin would have been clearly bemused by her Monetarist, free market stance, for Darwin, in his book, "The Origin of Species", warned us that in order for humans to survive as a species we ought not to set man against man but to work as a collective. Through his studies he sited that some of the most successful species are those which work in a positively selfish way, ie. they work as a collective, such as starlings and ants etc. This was not Darwin being political only anthropological. Man, by his/her very nature is a ruthless and selfish survival machine, and we do not need those extremists on the right to encourage people to be even more ruthless and greedy as Thatcherism espoused, and now which Blairism is yodelling.

If humans are incapable of establishing a system where the idea of social cohesion dominates individual greed (utilitarianism to a degree) then societies will implode. If Nations are incapable of establishing a system where the idea of worldly cohesion dominates nations' individual greed (utilitarianism to a degree) then nations will implode and an inevitable worldly conflict will ensue. Perhaps this is our destiny as species. Perhaps this is the destiny of all species when their populations become so enourmous that their consumption levels outstrip their natural resources,
but we live in hope

Preston Unlikely

PS I take many of my cues from Darwin and not Socialists, Capitalists or other strands of political bent, and Blair is the sort of reptile that would not have excited Darwin in terms of strengthening the long-term survival chances of Mr & Mrs Human. And yes, Blair is not a centre left as he likes to echo, but a Thatcher/Reaganist in sheep’s clothing.

Thatcher through and through. One of the first disturbing things about Blair was when he invited Thatcher to have a pow wow with him over policy shortly after he wsa elected. I think a few alarm bells went offf then. I mean who in their right mind consults the most unpopular prime minister of the twentieth century, a monster who destroyed the union movement and turned them into the suits they are now, who sold off our heavy and light industries and replaced them with armies of drunken, arrogant yuppies; who evicted people in Wandsworth to the drab Lambeth so that the houses could be bought by her tory supporters for next to nothing then have them injected with huge amounts of money to make Wandsworth the flagship of the oppressive poll tax. Why consult someone who sinks a warship LEAVING a restricted area, killing thousands of young argentinian slodiers, and call it legitimate combat.
Blair had the opportunity to put Britain right. To give us the first competent decent government for almost two decades and instead he's turned out a traitor equal only to that of Eden during Suez. He has taken our country down a dangerous path with an unpredictable ally. At home he is disassembling our educational and heath systrems and on the continent he's isolating us. Labour my arse!

Yes, Labour my arse indeed. And you're right, Blair is Thatcher in Drag.

If anybody thinks "New" Labour has anything whatsoever to do with "Old" Labour, then they are being fooled. You might as well vote for the Republican party in the US as to vote for Labour. Labour in name only. Conservative in spirit.

Read chapter 7 in "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" by Greg Palast, in order to discover just what is going on in the so-called New Labour party.

Greg Palast is an American investigative journalist ,who once worked along side Blair, and so knows first hand pretty much what is going on inside Mr Smilie's head.

Preston

Yep, got to agree with Preston and Grimminick.

Blair, Mandelson, Blunket and cronies are by nature Thatcherites. It's not like they've even try to hide their admiration for the woman and her policies.

It's astonishing but it seems Britain is being run by politicians who joined a party they hated, and have been changing ever since, when they could have saved themselves the effort and simple stood as Coservatives. In the last couple of years Parliament has been a farce with Blair getting everthing through the chambers against his own party's wishes on the back of the Tory vote. Beggers understanding or belief.

Blair is an incompotent SOB. This is a man who wants to destroy ther NHS which was one of Labours biggest achievements, a man who went to war when a vast majority of the country says n, a man whos relationship with Bush might get to cosy if you know what I mean. A man has 90% of the hopuses of parliment against ( including his own party members), a man who doctored intelligence documents, a man uses spin rather than the truth. Thne theres David kelly incident is it just me or does anybody else think that DAvid kelly being dead two days after he embarssed the government over WMDs is a litle weird.
Blairt has lost trust and that is hard to get back, can anyone name one positive thing he has done for the people in the last 5 months (apart from leaving the country a few times)?

PS does anybody else think that Blair looks like the Grinch when he is smiling?

The problem with British politics is the lack of choice. Tony Blair is indeed an incompetant slave to the devil, (ie Bush), but who is the alternative. IDS LOL. If Ken Clarke would have won the tory leadership, TB would be in serious s*it. As it happens though, IDS won, which means that Tony Blair could openly profess he is a satan worshiper, intent on world destruction, and he would still win the election. I detest Blair, and his war mongering cabinet, but in all reality, who really thinks IDS could win?, and if he could, who would want it?. IDS was more in favour of this illegal, immoral war than Blair, and has served more in the capacity of Labour spin doctor than opposition leader.

I think the only hope for the British people is for Ken Clarke to win a tory leadership, in which case TB can be succesfully deposed.

The thing is it's not the Labour party that is the problem it's the way it is ran. Ig someone like Gordon Brown who in my opion is very very good at his job was the leader things might be diffrent, in fact some people believe he could be the next leader.

Brown went to exactly the same sort of tactics to convince the nation to go to an illegal war as Blair. Brown is, if anything, more in control of the labour party than Blair.

Britain under Brown would be no different to Britain under Blair. The only difference is he doesnt smile as much, (which is a good thing).

well you never know if brown was just toeing the party line. A new leader almost always brings a new approach and right now any new approach is better than blairs current one

I got an even better idea I'll run for PM