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Iraq or N. Korea: Which is the Threat?

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

The world watches the US and UK prepare to mount an attack on Iraq. Korea continues to proceed with nuclear plans, and the world is somehow ignoring them.

What do you think the world should do with this situation?

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Posted by: Marc Flemming

I think both are threats to different parties in different capacities.

Iraq is more of a threat to its own people and N. Korea a threat to its neighbors, stability in the region, and eventually to everyone and anyone if they play this aggressive game while sitting on a few nukes.

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

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Originally posted by Marc Flemming
I think both are threats to different parties in different capacities.


ditto.
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Posted by: Caps#1

I think we should NUKE them both. lol. Well, i think that after we are done with Iraq we should go after n korea. You should have a thing on your poll that could say both.

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

Why is it that you think nuclear strikes would be such a good idea? How would you feel if they were able to slip out a single, retaliatory response, a missle with a nuclear tip that hit, say, San Francisco.. or perhaps Los Angeles..? With hundreds of thousands of American lives on the line do you still, really think "screw `em! nuke `em all to hell! they all deserve to die! there's no consequences, we're invincible!"

It's an abhorable attitude IMHO..

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Posted by: Caps#1

We will never use a nuke. and yes, personally I would not care at all if we nuked an anti-american country.

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

The only problem with nuking an anti-american country - countries pro-american may turn anti.

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

Well, not the "ONLY" problem, but a problem nonetheless

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Posted by: Saverain

I think North Korean is a hell of a lot more dangerous than Iraq but it's not our job to take care of North Korea..The rest of the world should work together to take care of North Korea and we should slaughter(talking bluntly) Saddam..Iraq is not the problem it is Saddam and his regime..We want to help the people of the region and end the evil empire of Saddam...If this were successful then I would be the proudest American ever...

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Posted by: Rebel

North Korea same thing diffrent year. North korea has behaved like this in the past. They simply want money. Similar to a two year old thorwing a fit. They are a threat, but i gurantee they know how far to push it. China keeps them on a short leash. China doesent want nukes in korea anymore than we do. Far as nuking san francisco well i dont know if that would bother me all that much, of course i kid. Both are threat. Bush labled korea as a threat the world called him a cowboy. Wow history repeats itself. Same fools that called churchill a war monger and Ronnie a Cowboy, all now are but bad memories of the past. Left never learns .

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Posted by: MrJukoVette

Attacking N. Korea now would put S. Korea in a big risk... N. Korea communist regime sooner or later has to be slaughtered, but very carefull.

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Posted by: NothingSacred

Niether!

We hold all the cards. They can't ever set off a nuke anywhere or we fry them instantly, just make that clear. They'll never launch and a terrorist group is not sophisticated enough to sneak one into the USA and put it all together.

Besides, no civilized nation can believe in pre-emptive war? It's just wrong. So yes, THEY have to do something to provoke retaliation. They won't do so if you make it clear, they're ALL DEAD when they do it. The thing is WE CAN WIN nuclear confrontation with Iraq or North Korea, with Russia it was MUTUAL DESTRUCTION, they had as many nukes and delivery systems as we did...these people don't.

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Posted by: Caps#1

so your saying that it is impossible to sneak a terror group into the US to commit an attack on us? Wasn't so hard on 9/11 was it?

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

How do you feel about a N.Korea warehead being found in Alaska about 1 week ago?

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Posted by: NothingSacred

No it's not impossible to sneak a terror group into the U.S. But a nuke is not like a few sticks of dynamite. You can't just strap it to some moron and have him set it off. You need high tech equipment and knowledgable people to pull this off.

Warhead in Alaska? Didn't hear about it. If North Korea fired a war head at Alaska it would have made headline news.

Bottom line is KILL the entire country of North Korea if they set off a nuke. That means that they live until one of somebody else's cities is wasted. They're not going to do it though, they're not crazy...like Bush. They won't commit suicide.

Pre-emptive war is illegal and immoral. I have no compassion at all if they set off a nuke somewhere, at that point, my subs in the pacific turn the entire nation into a flaming lump of melting charcoal, but until then there's no justification....unless you want to turn yourself into the bad guy...like Bush is trying to do by emulating Sharon.

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

I'm hoping the entire area of North Korea blows itself up with their own nuke myself. I can't remember were I saw it. either the BBC or CNN - one of the two. Or Japan times

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Posted by: debrabsg

I believe N. Korea will pretty much wait until we are busy invading Iraq, then they will surprise us. Like WWII, we may end up with a war on both fronts. It appears that we are blowing off N. Korea. That would be a mistake. They actually hate us and have nuclear capabilities. We should pay more attention and not let them blindside us down the road. But, if I were N. Korea, I would patiently wait for our attention to be totally turned towards Iraq.

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

I'm positive that the U.S. has no intention of letting North Korea catch us off gaurd. It's the job of the defense department to think of crap like that, to cover all the 'what if' scenarios. What if while we're in Iraq NK strikes? What if Pakistan loses their cool and hits India or vice versa? What if there's a biochemical attack on the homefront?

We have already dedicated military resources to letting NK know that we haven't forgotten about them.

Further, many say that NK is "all talk" and that they're just ruffling their feathers in a showy demand for attention - that they actually lack the balls, if you will, to do anything truly stupid.

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Posted by: donin24

I'm completely with Sean Kelly. I think that North Korea is just ruffing it's feathers to get some attention or some stupid demands from the US that we will never follow through with because they won't comply with the agreements. They aren't that stupid to attack anyone. Plus, if they somehow in the miricles of all miricles create a missle that can hit the US, they know that the reaction from us will be so harsh that whoever is running the place, I can never remember his name, won't have anything to rule. Like Kelly said, with all do respect, NK doesn't have the balls to attack SK.

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Posted by: MrJukoVette

I dont think NK has a missile to get a nuke to US; even if so, that will be end of NK's existence, US will level it with ground Its more about NK's threat so SK, Japan, and other surrounding countries. About Pakistan and India: world has to prevent the conflict to escalate; i hope neither of them will use a nuke.

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

We sent B-5Xs over to the west to possibly handle a Nk issue. I believe that other countries need to GET involved with this issue - they seem to be ignoring more then the US.

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Posted by: Edward Teach

I think China should handle it, after all, China borders their punie little country.

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

I think China should deal with it as well. For some strange reason, everyone feels the U.S. should deal with it. Strange - they stand against but want us to get rid of a threating neighbor

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Posted by: Dilca

I guess moderator missed an answer: d) None

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

Someone threatening to fire at the US is a threat to us and Japan - None could not be an answer
the name of this "which is the threat?"
NK threatens the US with nukes and missiles can reach us - therefore, they are a threat.

If someone pulls out a loaded gun and aims it towards your head - are they a threat?
With your logic, they are not.

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Posted by: Dilca

i understand that... but you also aimed your guns (far ago).. or am i wrong?

about missing an answer.. i just wanted to say that some people dont think they are real threat.. you categorically deniend option d) ...WHY?

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

well... I can add it if you really want me too.
But Nk really is a Threat to SK -

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Posted by: Dilca

well.. in this i must agree.. NK is a threat to SK .. and yes i really want you add it

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

MrJukoVette
Take a look at one of the news Threads that I posted.
It's about a NK war head being found in Alaska.

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Posted by: bellagirldee

"Here here" Caps.. Bomb them both.

We have plenty of big bombs to go around.

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Posted by: grets

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Originally posted by NothingSacred
No it's not impossible to sneak a terror group into the U.S. But a nuke is not like a few sticks of dynamite. You can't just strap it to some moron and have him set it off. You need high tech equipment and knowledgable people to pull this off.

Warhead in Alaska? Didn't hear about it. If North Korea fired a war head at Alaska it would have made headline news.

Bottom line is KILL the entire country of North Korea if they set off a nuke. That means that they live until one of somebody else's cities is wasted. They're not going to do it though, they're not crazy...like Bush. They won't commit suicide.

Pre-emptive war is illegal and immoral. I have no compassion at all if they set off a nuke somewhere, at that point, my subs in the pacific turn the entire nation into a flaming lump of melting charcoal, but until then there's no justification....unless you want to turn yourself into the bad guy...like Bush is trying to do by emulating Sharon.
oh, get real, illegal and immoral?
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Posted by: orcabait

Folks in this group dismiss NK saying China as its neighbor should take care of it. They say why should the US deal with it. Well, NK hates the US, has the potential to hit Alaska and Hawaii with missles, is selling weapons to Pakistan, yemen and possible al-Queda, has WMD with USA as thier target. They are a much more direct threat than Sadaam. But G. bush doesnt have a family vendetta against Pyongyang. They also have no oil

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Posted by: grets

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Originally posted by orcabait
Folks in this group dismiss NK saying China as its neighbor should take care of it. They say why should the US deal with it. Well, NK hates the US, has the potential to hit Alaska and Hawaii with missles, is selling weapons to Pakistan, yemen and possible al-Queda, has WMD with USA as thier target. They are a much more direct threat than Sadaam. But G. bush doesnt have a family vendetta against Pyongyang. They also have no oil
can't you guys come up with anything new- it's always the same mantra-"bush, oil, bush oil"is your thought process retarded on that one thing?
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Posted by: cliffy

I don't think that is the way to go. America is not the world police, proseutor and Jury.

America is in danger of doing for capatilism what the russians tried to do to communism. Taking it to the world.

It is not your fight - don't make it yours.

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Posted by: KAZAK

The difference between N.korea and Iraq is that N.Korea has MDW and iraq no. N.Korea has a grat military and Iraq no.
This war is not only about oil, this is a detail. This war is a distraction war, us admin has to many problems inside the country, bush needs to make some thing to make americans forget the real problems of the contry.

For teh moment, one of the results of this war and of this new american international doctrine is that countries such n.kore are rearming with more mdw's.
Last week N.Korea said that the error of saddam had been to accept UN resolutions and accept disarmament.

So now, no one of this counties will accept un resolutions, no one of them will accpt disarmement, but the contrary, they will begun to develop atomic and other mdw.

thank you bush, this is the kind of present the world neede

now un is realy inservible

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Posted by: cliffy

quote:
The difference between N.korea and Iraq is that N.Korea has MDW and iraq no. N.Korea has a grat military and Iraq no.


This maybe the only saving grace. Hopefully President Bush will keep avoiding conflict with countries with wmd. Lets face it, would he have been so keen to go to Afghanistan or Iraq if they had nuclear weapons? - I doubt it. This may keep us all safe.
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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

Honestly Kazak - this war has not made anyone forget our problems. If all else, many are more AWARE of their problems.

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Posted by: KAZAK

NO That is not true.

Without this war you would be now in a forum called " has the president benefited from irregular, or ethical doubtose stadion sells?"

Or another on how would be the future of the american economy.

Televisions would do other investigation programmes...if they can because these is the most opaque adiminstration US has ever had.

Americans would, may be, accept and do critic against the president, but that do not happens in war time. And in post war times, when all what this people will say will be: be Patriotic, we have or soldiers in irak for the benefit of iraquisw. Who questions p. bush now in the us is seen lots of times as antipatriotic, when it is the most patrotic one, because criticising power in times of war is the most brave act.

I meant that, war is the best solution to minor critic and investigation, and the post war period is very similar. (this was done in germany between 1856 and 1900 and in the second world war) Patriotism is here the weapon of power.
Lets put the US flag out of you eyes and watch a little what is happening.

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

the president is ALWAYS criticized. when they do something right, they are criticized, when they do wrong, they are criticized. the people do not all support bush but our troops. There is a LARGE difference - and if you do not live in the states you will not understand this.
It has made the people of states, the ones that i know anyhow, look around them more. View the problems of their individual state and those of there neighbors.
It has honestly made them look around a little harder.

I'll repeat myself - A LOT of people criticize bush right now.


i know this is true since i see it each and every day and always have.

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