A slap in the face for Harlemm from Johnny...

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The way that Johnny Wright offered runner up Shannon a record deal was a total slap in the face for Harlemm. What an insult to Harlemm!!! He won and soley deserves the contract and opportunity of a lifetime. I severely doubt that Johnny would have offered something to Harlemm if Shannon had won - he would focus all his effort and energy to only promote her. Johnny's actions toward Shannon completely destroy his credibility and integrity as an professional - he must be deaf and deluded!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that. If he wanted to give her a contract that is cool...but to do it the way he did it was a bit rude. That was something he should have saved until the end of the show and done it in private.

If anyone has the email address for Wired Records, maybe people can email Johnny and let him know that he was out of line.

Johnny will probably have Shannon travel in a limo, while Harlemm will have to get to the studio in a used Yugo.

Perhaps Johnny knew Shannon is better. Go Shannon

Perhaps Johnny just wanted what he liked to look at. Go Harlemm!

Johnny Wright's behavior & comments on the stage last evening were rude, inappropriate, & unprofessional. I agree that if he wanted to offer Shannon some kind of recording deal he could have contacted her after the show (as in another day).

I have watched this show from its start & have been so taken with Harlemm Lee. He is so talented & so very consistent. I've watched weekly hoping that he would not prove me wrong. He didn't, & I voted for him every week! (By the way, I didn't find Shannon to be a consistent & solid performer.)

It may sound silly, but the announcement of Harlemm's win caused me to scream out loud & to even cry some happy tears for him. I feel his win is well deserved! Then I heard Johnny Wright's ignorant comments & suddenly I felt stunned & simply frozen in place.

I am truly angry at Johnny Wright for this. Nothing like stealing someone's well deserved happiness. I hope Mr. Wright was duly reprimanded by the show's producers & I, too, would like to have his email address so I can give him a strong piece of my mind.

I knew he was going to ask Shannon. IMO she is more well rounded not a better singer but more well rounded and marketable (sp?) He asked her at the end because it was free advertising for shannon because shannon's whole fan-base was watching. I didn't think it was rude at all. Infact they all wished it wasn't just one person who won and their wish came true. I think it was a smart move.

I feel the same way as all you guys. What Johnny Wright said at the end of the show was totally wrong. It was a moment for Harlemm to celebrate, it was all about Harlemm!!!! Why did he have to go and include Shannon in Harlemm's special moment?
This has made me think, that since Shannon is a little Britney "like", Wright knows that he can make big bucks with her (blonde, thin, great dancer, pretty face)... What he did was totally wrong... I'm in it in writing his record company and letting them know what we think.

He was a little short sighted on that. He wanted to take advantage of the closing night publicity and he is getting it. Negative press is just as effective as positive press. He only wanted to promote Shannon anyway. He should have been taken off the show as a Biased "Judge".

It just cheapens the whole thing. I hope a major record company that someone has heard of, offers Harlemm a great deal.

Yes, I am righ twith you, on another note I have to say that I think Johnny did it because A. He knew that another recording artist would approach her and this way he would have first try at signing her B. He knew that the opportunity of keeping Shannon's fans intact would be to let them know not to worry that she will also have an album coming out soon.

That's my two bits, I can understand others being upset, but I think Harlemm still won and that's all he cares about and Shannon was just as shocked as anyone else so don't punish her, it was a BUSINESS decision, and I can bet you that they really could care less what others thought about it. There was talent and a limited opportunity and he took it.

Harlemm won everything! The hotel room, the dance training, a part in the Fame musical, the record deal, cash prizes etc.

Shannon is only getting a record deal. Harlemm will have maximum exposure in dance, singing and acting. Shannon will need to prove herself as a singer to the world.

I think they were both deserving of the title. They were both great dancers and singers! Congrats to them and good luck in their quest for superstardom.

JOHNNY WRIGHT WAS WRONG IN OFFERING SHANNON BEX A DEAL ON HARLEMM'S NIGHT! IN PAST HISTORY, NO PERSON OF ASIAN HERITAGE HAS EVER BECOME FAMOUS FOR THEIR SINGING, DANCING, AND PERFORMING TALENT. HARLEMM WAS ALWAYS CONSISTENT AND NEVER HAD ANYTHING BAD SAID ABOUT HIM. SHANNON ON THE OTHER HAND WAS ALWAYS CRITICIZED BY ONE OF THE JUDGES EVERY WEEK. JOHNNY IF YOUR LOOKING AT POTENTIAL ,HARLEMM IS YOUR TICKET. HE IS SINCERE IN HIS PERFORMANCES AND DID NOT LOOK FOR PUBLICITY. SHANNON ON ONE EPISODE JUST HAD TO MENTION SOMETHING IN REFERENCE TO THE U.S. TROOPS. NOW IF THAT IS NOT TRYING TO KISS ASS, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS!
JOHNNY SHOULD HAVE WAITED A LITTLE LATER TO OFFER SHANNON, BUT HE ALSO SHOULD HAVE OFFERED SERENA OR BRANDON. WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?

You mentioned that there really hasn't been Asian people to really make it in the music. They've mainly been crossover, but didn't have a great impact in the US. I'm glad Harlemm won. I thought he deserved it because of his attitude about taking risks. Like he says...what other short, bald and asian guy would sing Vogue? That kind of fun-loving person draws people in. I don't deny Shannon has talent. But, Harlemm on the other hand will always be fun to watch even when he's 75. I just don't know about Shannon.

I think Johnny wants to do more than sign Shannon to a contract! Who knows, the two of them might be an item one day!

Her fiancee might be mad. I know you must have seen him, the guy supporting her in the audience. That'd suck for her to leave him for Johnny Wright of all people.

To kuk,
You really need to get over yourself. You should have seen what johnny did was rude weather or not you liked harlemm. Image if you were him. Just like the ruban/ clay thing. If you were going to give clay a contract great, but not the way it was done. It was rude and frankly so are you, why dont you open your mind and listen to other peoples point of views instead of your own.

"You are in our country, and you made it your home, and we accepted you. Don't expect us to give up we are accustomed to in order to change to what you think we should be. We too have our own customs. We have made MANY MANY changes to accomodate the diversity of this country now. You should be thankful for small and huge steps. You may never be succesful in this country, but that doesn't mean we rejected you because of your race. It means we have our own preferences and culture here, just like you have in your own country....Don't even complain about how bad it is here for you be successful. I think we have made major leaps to accept you. "

Please be careful. I am an Asian-American, born in Ohio. While I identify with the Asian culture, I consider America to be my country and don't feel I need anyone to "accomodate" me. You're treading on very thin ice with how you worded your remarks, and you should be more considerate in the future. The way you're speaking, it sounds like your great ancestors founded this country.

I AM ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED AT THIS COMMENT ABOUT THE TROOPS!! I AM NOT GOING TO WASTE A LOT OF MY TIME RESPONDING TO IT, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I ALONG WITH SHANNON HAD AN AMAZING LIFETIME EXPERIENCE AT THE FT. HOOD BASE IN FEBRUARY AND THAT IS WHY SHE MADE THAT COMMENT. WE WERE ABLE TO MEET AND TALK WITH A LOT OF THE FAMILY AND SOLDIERS THAT WERE GOING TO BE DEPORTED, SO WE HAVE CLOSE TIES WITH MANY OF THEM AND FEEL FOR THEIR FAMILIES. THE NIGHT BEFORE SHE PERFORMED SHE HAD SEEN THAT MORE SOLDIERS HAD JUST DIED AND THAT IS WHY SHE MADE THAT COMMENT.

HAVE A LITTLE DIGNITY, I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE WOULD SAY THAT WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM TRULY OFFENDED WITH THAT COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!

My God! Could you all whine a little more? They did the exact same thing on American Idol with Clay and Ruben. Geez! Get over it people.

Music has been a major foundation in my life having worked in contemporary hit and rock radio for 24 years in major markets. This made me question the credibility of these so-called experts. Give me a break, Carnie Wilson...a few hits under her belt and then what? Johnnie Wright, hardly a major name in the recording biz like Clive Davis, which is who I'd love to see sign Harlemm Lee with or even Jimmy Jam. They would do wonders for Harlemm and have far wider recognition. The good thing, Harlemm won't be stuck with Johnnie W, and I believe another label would gladly pick him up. As for JoJo, the guy is a joke. The judges, in my humble opinion truly left much to be desired and I'm glad the television audience decided the vote.

I found Johnnie's actions of offering Shannon a recording deal to be very inappropriate as the timing was wrong. The sole winner of the group should have enjoyed the spotlight, solely. It could have been done off air, but yes, he was milking the publicity for all he could get. Shannon is a good performer, but extremely inconsistent where the vocals are concerned. I do think Shannon is an incredible dancer and would bode well on the Broadway stage. If she can work on controlling her vocals with breathing technique, she'd be fabulous and doing songs within her range.

For Johnnie to have predicted Shannon to win over Harlemm makes me wonder, is he looking for just another cookie-cutter performer who fits the current pop radio formula, (another Britney Spears) or is he looking for some serious cutting edge talent? I think the answer is pretty obvious. Harlemm would be better off with another label and producers who aren't afraid to think out of the box once his time with Wired is up.

FYI: I have never seen American Idol or any of the other talent shows, so I can't compare how they were handled.

I agree Johnny Wright's offer to Shannon will on the show was tacky as it was really
Harlemm's Night but It also was a good PR move for Shannon and WIRE-- Bad PR is better than no PR--
Go Harlemm !!!!
Does anyone know what any of the other Fame contestants are doing now. Anyone get a job from being on Fame maybe???

Well kuk, you always shock me at how ignorent you are. America is racist. America is not the most diverse place on the planet, and because you are not a minortie you dont know. You dont have people follow you around in groceries stores, you dont have KKK members burning things in your yard. Its because of people like you that the racism in america is not getting better. You know what, i do happend to wear a braclet of the colombian flag, and i am proad of my colombian, cuban, and spanish hertage. Oh and fyi i was born in the usa. So once again you need to stop talking about things you know nothing about.

I in no way think that offering Shannon some sort of deal with WEG infringes on Harlemm's win or prizes. He is taking home a lot more than Shannon. As for Johnny's timing, I don't see why there is a fuss. Harlemm was announced as the winner, he had his shining moment, and then at the end Johnny announced that they would like to have Shannon as well. The same as Kelly Clarkson/Justin Guarini and Ruben Studdard/Clay Aiken.

As for Johnny as a businessman, who can deny that he is a good one? He started at the bottom and worked his way up to where he is now. He started Wright Entertainment Group to manage musical acts. He since started his own label WIRE Records and from what I hear is taking WEG into TV production and management. The man is no fool. He sees talent in Shannon obviously and wants to nurture and develop that into what could be the next big thing. He has done it before. *coughnsynccough* Like it or not, the man has smarts and has made millions.

As for the comment about Johnny wanting to do more than sign Shannon to WEG, get over it. I'm sure he finds her attractive and talented, hell so do I, but I damn sure don't want to get with her.

Johnny knows what he is doing.

My god, I haven't been on this site for 2 weeks, and KUKA is still doing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As Flaubert said it :
"Only human stupidity gives you an idea of what infinity is all about!". (Seule la betise humaine donne une idee de l'infini).



VIVA HARLEMM

I don't feel that it was a "slap in the face" to Harlemm because Johnny offered Shannon a record deal at the end of the show. I believe that the song picked by Johnny to have the "winner" sing at the end of the show was definitely geared toward Shannon's style rather than Harlemms. (Although this song may have been chosen many weeks ago, it just seemed more like a "Shannon" song.) It was a pretty lame song anyway - nothing like the singles released for the winners of American Idol. Although I feel that Shannon is not even in the same league as Harlemm (her voice waivers too much on the long notes during slow numbers), I feel glad for anyone lucky enough to get a record deal. I don't feel that Shannon or Harlemm would have the same fan base anyway. Their styles are completely different. I just hope that Johnny gives Harlemm the attention that he deserves but, if he doesn't, Harlemm can look elsewhere for a record label. The bottom line: I'll buy just about anything Harlemm records IF he keeps the same style used on his numbers on FAME. I've never heard another singer with that same vocal style and I like it. If, however, he becomes "generic," I won't purchase his cds.

I agree with what you said...Harlemm won and I was shocked when Johnny told Shannon he would offer her a deal, as well. At the very least, he could have mentioned this to her in private, away from the cameras. He's a sleeze anyway...

Originally posted by SueReu
Can we keep our comments about Harlemm, or anyone else left, a little more constructive and a little less hateful?

Your response Kukabeara on 7-22-03

SueReu, you're right about this. I am guilty of being mean spirited. I started out with a simple question about whether or not he should be penalized for lying.

I have said mean things about him, joked with others about him, and I was wrong. Harlemm, I appologize to you, and to your fans, for the mean things I've said about you, and joked about you.

You will not hear anymore mean spirited remarks from me again. Constructively speaking, I do not care for your style, and I am supporting Brandon.

And then on 7-24-03 you posted the following:

And YOU left YOUR integrity where???? How dare you malign Harlemm Lee for lying about his age and then turn around and lie yourself!? Your "actions" on this forum are far more detestable than what he did. And for your information, yesterday on the Today show with Matt Lauer, Harlemm said he was the one who brought up the issue when he made the final 12. The man has plenty of integrity -- he is a dear soul who has worked hard for what he has achieved and for what his future now holds for him.

Dove, that was not a mean spirited remark. I said in several posts back that there are consequences to pay. What happened to Harlemm in the end was fair. I'm sorry if you want to pin your anger on me for thinking it was fair, but you're entitled to your opinion.

As for my actions on the forum, if you can't handle my views, don't read them. I think we've established two sides in this forum:

1. Those who think Harlemm should have been disqualified for lying on his application.

2. Those who don't care.

And then there is the Johnny side:

1. Those who think he was rude.

2. Those who think it was not out of line.

I'm not understanding how you think I lied. What I did was pointed out something that seemed fair to me. If you don't think it was fair, then you have a right to your opinion. I think what he did was fair, and he took an opportunity to support Shannon. So what?

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Yes, now I understand how you perceive it, but now let me try to explain something to you.

I have seen a lot of people get ahead at other people's expences, and by lying, and cheating, and it's rare that we get to see something take place that's fair.

Harlemm should have been disqualified for lying, and for being deceptive about who he is. Had he have been disqualified, how many votes would have gone to someone that deserved the votes?

When I see something happens that is fitting for the circumstances, I can't help but rejoice about it. It shows that life is grand, and you do reap what you sew. It's a nice feeling to see universal laws at work, and the liars don't get away with it. Harlemm did not get the whole spotlight and he didn't deserve it. It should have gone to someone who wasn't hiding anything.

How many votes would Brandon have received if Harlemm was gone? And would Shannon have won if he was gone? Would Serena or Brandon have gotten a record deal by being first, second or third because Harlemm was gone? We'll never know because he wasn't disqualified.

Don't tell me it's mean spirited to be happy about justice. We need more justice in this world. Ain't life grand when justice comes out? Yes, it is. Mean spirited is wanting a liar to win and taking away from the ones that didn't lie.

From one of the greatest philosophers of all time:

OH KUKA YOU ARE SO BUSTED BY DOVE!!!!!!!!
Dove, great job, you just rubbed KUKA's nose in her s......
Capital sin : LIE! Smile you have just been caught online of lying!
Now what are you gonna do about this? Can you admit that you lied KUKA? Stop abusing yourself about your so called grandiose ethics.
As far as I am concern, DOVE just gave the final proof that everything you said on this site had not the smallest sparkle of integrity. You teared our ears for weeks about the unacceptable lie of HARLEMM, and now it has come back to bite your arse, because it always does.You are a mean fake! You can drop the moral act with us now, you are dead on that issue.

As far as following you don't flatter yourself, you represent about 0.1 % of my posts on inreview. I just loved to rub your nose in your s........... DOVE did it better though.

And I am through with you because you have just been definetely proved morally inexistant. In my court, I condemned you to shut your lying mouth. No need for prison time, the reminder of your life spend with your lying-self will do....

Maybe Johnny knew Shannon is what today's youth would want to see more of. Maybe he knew Shannon would sell more than Harlemm. I thought he made a good business decision. It is kind of like asking: Britney Spears (for those who sees likenesses in Shannon & Britney) or 35 yrs.old bald man who can perform?
People rather see Britney Spears

KUKA, Your dialectic is totally demented. You can enter a plea bargain for reason of mental defect any time in appeal.

Ok, well i am sorry i sometimes forget that i cant judge people i dont know. The way you came off seemed very racist to me, and that is a touchy subject for me. I think shannon is great, and yes i think she deserved a record deal, i just think it was a little tacktful the way she john went about it. I do beleave in second chances and such, and especially when i have jumped to conclusions about someone i dont know. So i do say sorry, however the only thing i ask is to try to post in a way that doesnt confuse people, about your views.

JohnnY Wright was WRONG. First he said that his web page would publish Shannon Bex's name the following day as the winner...and this was while they hadn't yet announced the name of the winner.
Secondly, he offered Shannon a record deal while everyone
was celebrating Harlemm's win! It was Harlemm's moment
and by doing this Johnny Wright diluted the whole climax.
Nothing wrong with meeting with Shannon after the show and offering her a deal but the timing was in very poor taste.
It doesn't take a genius to know tht Shannon Bex is talented
and very marketable but so is Harlemm Lee. Some of the most
wonderful performers that have remained timeless have not been very attractive (Barry Manilow, Elton John, Aretha Franklin,
Lyle Lovett etc.,) They made it on pure talent and the world
recognized it and still recognizes it. some of the pretty boys and girls with mediocre talent have long been forgotten.
GOOOOOOOOOO HARLEMM.......PLEASE PICK YOUR MATERIAL
WISELY.............YOU ARE WONDERFUL, AMAZING AND MAGICAL....

you people are NUTS!!!!!!! KUK has alot of really good things to say and I agree with most - especially about race in this country. Others come here expecting us to conform to their ways to make them comfortable & that is infuriating!!!!!!!! 2 examples - I was working in a loan department in Chicago years ago when a customer sat at my desk and could barely speak enough english to communicate with me. He ordered me to get an interpreter! and then had the nerve to say " YOU NO GOOD-GO SPANISH SCHOOL" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!example #2! My husband is a physician and we just moved from Ft. Worth Texax where he worked at the county hospital (where people get care for free regardless of what country you are from!!!!) HE was the minority in a hopsital full of Mexican people who were not even legal citizens. He took exeptional care of these people, nevertheless. However hardly anyone spoke english and he was FORCED (in order to be a good Dr.) to learn how to communicate with a spanish speaking woman in labor because even though she & her family (and countless other families) have lived in the states for years and have NEVER BOTHERED TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE!!!!!!!!!uuuuuugh DONT GET ME STARTED!!!!!!!! LAY OFF OF KUK YOU IDIOT PEOPLE!!!!!!1

Gee, I am white and I speak english quite fluently..lol. The physician that delivered my son was Asian and I could hardly understand him. Even though he worked hard and paid taxes, I think he should have learned to speak our language better, before he bothered to enter our work force. Now, doesn't that sound lame and uncalled for?

People don't just learn another language over night. Adults have it the hardest and it can take years and for some, many, many years.

foushou and ddkay

yes I understand that and the ones that are at least trying are not who I am speaking of! and yes it is very frustrating when i am on the phone and the person on the other end has an extremely strong accent and it is hard to understand but at least they are speaking ENGLISH! Again I am not speaking of these people who have come to this country and are working hard at trying to be a PART of this country. The ones I am speaking of and as KUK is speaking of are the ones that EXPECT this country to conform to them. Maybe if we stop making it easier (spanish signs, spanish drivers tests etc. ) maybe people would work harder at learning the language at least. DO NOT GET ME WRONG HERE!!!!! I am not against any race and am very open to all of the human race regardless of color and religious befiefs - I just think everyone here should be able to speak the language and at the very least understand it!!!!!!!!!!!!! We as a country have opened our arms and welcomed anyone who wants to come here - just be a descent human being and dont be a pitiful minority martyr and show your appreciation by learning the language. My in-laws were transferred to Italy for a few years. Before they moved they started studying the language. They did not expect to have the Italian people speak English to them - they were in ITALY!!!! Sorry - thats all folks!

SHELMIBELLE get over yourself and your anger!!!

I am french, and I happen to know that the americans who come in my country expect everyone to speak english !!!!!!!!
Of course they get very upset when french don't even reply to them!! Why because you guys act as conquerors everywhere you go and put on the following attitude : "Speak my language, we are the masters of the universe!"

On another note, the spanish speaking population will outgrow the white one within 20 years. You 'd better start learning dear, because it is the majority who sets the nation's language!!

Sorry, as Heraclitus put it "everything is in a state of flux", what is the norm today will be obsolete tomorrow.
In other words, get back to school, people, and learn other people's culture and language, it will help your foreign policy and god knows it needs it. (I was watching PBS last night and the head of the F.B.I operations in turkey, could not speak a word of turkish!!!!!!!!!do you really expect that you are going to understand what is going on in other people's mind if you don't know their language???????????)

DOVE DDKAY :

foushou - were you born in France? and raised a little French kid? Do you speak fluent French and Spanish? if so hats off to you - and the Turkish F.B.I. guy should have known that language. That is my point! If you ar going to be involved in another part of the world you should learn their language

Um lets see whats the official language of american? Oh yea there isnt one. America doesnt have a official language because A. it goes against freedom of speech, and B. america was founded by immigrints whom didnt speak english. English is my second language, and frankly when im in a store with my friends and such i dont feel then need to speak english with them. Oh and btw, alot of what we call america today used to be mexico untill the usa decieded they want more land. You make it seem like its so great for immagrints both illegal and other because they dont have to pay tax's, well its not. I can only speak as a latino, The bar for which we are supposed to live in the usa is set very low. Its the norm to see latino, being cleaners and such, and we try to achieve much greater things but are brought down but other people and cultures. We are the highest group of people to drop out of high school, and me being one of them can say its because with ever nationality there is a different culture, and we you approch that culture in a negative way, we do not respond in a good way. My favour meal is mondongo, which is intenstent soup, and to everyone around me it makes me a freak for eating that, and so on. Unless your ancestors are directly from england, then they came here speaking a different language. Oh and the only true american langauge would be a native american language because native americans are the only true americans.

You go latinoj77, I loved your quote "Oh and the only true american langauge would be a native american language because native americans are the only true americans."

I am part Native American (only part) and the language my tribe spoke is almost extinct.

What about the people who come to this country under terrible circumstances, people who never expected to have to move to another country? I have worked with Ukranian and Korean and Vietnamese immigrants who came here knowing NOTHING. They had no idea that someone could help them learn to communicate. We as americans ignore immigrants and expect them to do the crap jobs that we princess' won't do. So many immigrants get trapped in a "ghetto" of their own. Why learn english? There is no incentive.

We have an organization here where I live that works VERY hard to help immigrants get comfortable with everyday life. I work in a service industry, and watching the frustration on someone's face when they need something simple like a (grocery) bag but can't explain, is sad. WE need to help them, not complain. Literacy is important.
The reason signs and instructions and hazard warnings are in multiple languages are to help non-english speakers learn english and help keep them safe.

Drivers tests in english for non-english speakers? WHAT? You go overseas, try Sweden, take their drivers test without knowing Swedish. Their driving laws are very different than ours.

Stop complaining about non-english speakers people, learn their language, then help them learn ours. You will be doing a great thing fo someone else AND yourself.

i agree completely. it's really surprising coming from you shelmibelle because i know for a fact that you are filipina, and you must have some relatives (i'm assuming from my own experience) who aren't themselves very proficient in english. and if you claim to be not racist or "prejudiced" to lighten the tone of this conversation, how come most of your frustration comes off toward the latin american population? surely enough, when you moved to la, you must have expected it? in a region which has a latin american population of over 60%, it is only expected that there will also be recent immigrants (if you don't believe me, have you ever stood in line at the INS office in la?? a whole day's work, immigrants from ALL OVER THE WORLD and most of them don't speak english).
now, i'm an indian born who grew up in the middle east, in the UAE. did they expect us to learn arabic there?? NO. and isn't that the national language? YES. people communicated in all kinds of languages, least of which was arabic, because english was standardized because most of the population spoke english coming from highly educated backgrounds because in a population composed primarily of expatriates and where entry into the country depends solely on the skills you bring into the workforce, english was the feasible language just by sheer proportion, not because it was the national language. the majority of a region determines the language spoken primarily not the national language.
plus, if your husband is a doctor, he should have expected this too. what doctors and hopeful premeds value as much as all their chem and bio and their physiology and their anatomy is their knowledge of a foreign language. all of the doctors i know speak another language or at least understand it. be it spanish or hindi or french or arabic.
your comments are appreciated for their honesty, but please kukabeara and others who are apparently making comments that seem to anger most of the forum, realize that there really might be a reason just by looking at the number of people who are responding negatively. agreed that you can't express tone in a forum but you can take care in the way you word things so that they are not offensive to anybody else. an exclamation point or a capitalization in an inappropriate space can do a lot to change the meaning of a sentence...

Well, that was a good discussion!!!!!! Good points from all of you. It is time for a
And to answer your question shelmibelle : Yes I was born and raised in france, and only came to Virginia 6 years ago...I also speak spanish, mandarin and a little bit of japanese.

And as your husband I have the great pleasure to help this nation citizens take care of their health.

Harlemm is the man!!!!

shimster - how do u get that i am filipina - live in LA?

i think i remember from an earlier board on jamisen tiangco, candyafter6, filipina pryde and you were talking about it. correct me if i'm wrong.

no that wasnt me - i'm not filipina and i live in tennessee!

lol, sorry then, i guess you must be brandon's dance instructor then? your username seems really familiar. sorry for the misunderstanding =).

and i am not a racist at all - my frustration is not directed towards any one in particular- but the majority of non english speaking people that i have had contact with only spoke spanish. and i dont have anything against any descent human beiong who wants to come to this country for a better life! But I would never go to another country and EXPECT them to "go to english school" to be able to communicate with me! Thats all

Excellent post Kuka, if you had started with that post, IMO you would not have been yelled at by everyone.

Thank You shimster for your input, that was excellent!

Once again shel i would like to stress that you dont have to speak english in america, and when immagrints come here they dont have to learn english as there is no official language. Everyone ,except pure native americans are foriegners in america.