Kobe's accuser 'bragged' at a Party

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Partygoer: She was happy

The young woman accusing Kobe Bryant of rape bragged about the alleged assault at a party last week - and gave a graphic description of the NBA star's anatomy, partygoers said.

Steve Evancho told NBC News that he was surprised when the 19-year-old woman showed up at his house party on July 15 - three days before prosecutors slapped Bryant with sex assault charges.

"She was bragging about the whole thing," Evancho said, adding that the woman seemed "happy. She was having fun."

She even answered a question about the 6-foot-7 L.A. Lakers star's manhood, five people at the party told NBC.

"She answered with a gesture and a description," said NBC correspondent Michelle Hofland. "They couldn't believe it."

A spokeswoman for the Eagle County, Colo., district attorney declined to comment on the story yesterday.

Other friends have said the woman was stunned and upset after the June 30 incident at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera, where she worked at the front desk.

The report comes as a friend of the woman said the woman felt "a certain amount of chemistry with" Bryant when she showed him around the ritzy mountain resort near Vail.

After showing Bryant around the lavish lodge, she accepted his invitation to go to his room, Luke Bray told The Denver Post.

"She had thoughts of declining," Bray said. "But he had been nice. She felt safe about doing that."

Bryant raped her when she tried to leave, Bray said.

Conviction promised

Bray also echoed his wife, Starlene Bray, who has said the woman suffered obvious injuries.

"I can't wait for this to get in front of a jury so they can see what happened," Luke Bray said. "Their jaws will hit the floor, and they will convict him."

Bryant, married with a 6-month-old daughter, insists he had consensual sex with the woman.

Meanwhile, today's Globe supermarket tabloid published a photograph of the accuser on the cover with a black bar covering her eyes.

"This is the No. 1 face in America that people want to see, and so we decided to go with it," said editorial director Jim Lynch.

The woman's name is not mentioned.

Mainstream media outlets have refrained from identifying the accuser or showing her picture, though some of her personal information has appeared on the Internet and a syndicated radio talk-show host has aired her name.

Source: Daily News (in Eagle, CO)

stupid *****. why the hell she go brag about Kobe's manhood. That just says that she wasn't raped, she enjoyed having sex with him. I tell you she is a mental case. Damn Kobe, why did you have sex with that <admin: racist commentary removed>? That was stupid man.

Glad to here it! LOVE IT! It's about time that people wise up and quit taking some woman's allegation as truth. She WANTED to get ******, and she enjoyed that ****, why should he be punished for making her happy.

why would she have gone back to the room if she was just raped....did anyone think about that!!! she wanted it but couldnt handle that it was a one night stand.....she is just starving for attention and even her friends know it!!!!

he could have screwed a million other women. GHAD!!!

Reality Check.....Everything that has been said on this thread is pure BS based on hearsay, where is the evidence that she actually was at this party? If it was even remotely true the news agencies would be all over it. Everyone seems to blindly defend Kobe based on his celebrity and thats just wrong. I jus think its ignorant how people say things like "she wanted it" when they have no ****en clue what happened because they weren't there. No one really knows what happened- either he is lying or she is lying and just cause he's a celebrity does not mean he is more honest. The only thing we know for sure is Kobe admittedly had sex with a teenager while he was married. Along with his morals, values and respect he is going to lose multi-million dollar corporate sponsors for sure.

He can't help himself....oh my......((rolling eyes)) Lets be happy not all black men believe their "kryptonite" is that. If he assaulted her, he's guilty. Black, white, purple.....If he didn't, and I don't believe he did, he's innocent. Black, white, purple.

We need to quit giving excuses for people based on race, and quit giving excuses for behaviors based on race....and yes, flip it around, we need to stop being more judgemental based on race, etc. Kobe being black has nothing to do with why he cheated. Can't cry "foul" on race only one way.

It's kinda hard to feel sympathy for the girl if she went to his room to have sex.

I think most men would find it hard to resist the sexual advances of a 19 year old thin blonde. It's common knowledge black men can't resist white girls... I think Kobe should get a pass.

It's not the issue of race. It doesn't matter what race he is. I wouldn't use race as an issue or a scape goat in this case. What I am trying to figure out is, if she was so-called "raped or sexually assaulted", why is she going to parties bragging about the so-called "rapist's" manhood? Does that sound like someone who was raped or sexually assaulted? Then on the Abrahms report last night, the girl said that the whole incident started consensually and they started fooling around, then all the sudden it wasn't consentual. What is this? (rolling my eyes), please, give me a damn break!! That's just saying that she is not stable and thier is something she's not telling the truth about. And if you want to make race such an issue, ok I'll give you an issue. If this would have happened to black woman, it would not have been publicized so much, but due to the fact this happen to a blonde bombshell white woman, oh it's so highly publicized till it's a shame. I bet some of you don't think about that, now do you?

Who would have thought the OJ case was a race trial? Believe me, it will turn into race.

Didn't Mike Tyson's case get a lot of publicity? He assaulted a black woman too...

In today's world, for some women, "rape" is actually "regret" or just plain "revenge", but for others still, like this little hussy, "rape" means "riches"!

Regret: She regrets doing it or telling others about it so out of possible embarrassment or coaxing from her friends or family, she turns the story into forced sex. Rape.

Revenge: She doesn't really regret it per say, but perhaps he told her that sex that one night (or how ever many nights) is all he wanted from her and to get lost, so her revenge against him is to cry rape.

Riches: This one is obvious. There are girls and women who love to prey on celebrities hoping to hit pay dirt (like Bonnie Bakely did with Robert Blake - he was one of many possible "targets" she was interested in trapping with a child.), so it's not a far stretch to think that that's exactly what we have here, a gold digger.

Oh please. Yea, since black men can't resist us little white women, lets excuse their crimes?! Pullleeze.........Using race as an excuse is wrong, whether to advance or disadvance this case.

And personally, I think Kobe IS innocent of rape. I, however, do not think if a girl consents to "folling around" that she must then consent to intercourse. What a load of crap! No means no, and stop means stop. But do I believe this is what happened in THIS case? No. I believe in his innocence, on the rape accusation, and think she is using this to her own advantage. JMO.

What would fooling around be, if there was no sex involved? I just think it's wrong to convict a black man of raping a white girl, it just reminds me too much of Emmitt Till... especially if the girl went to him room to fool around.

Mike Tyson's did not get as much attention as OJ's case.

Why dont everone get a life its all here say BS. how come everyone is so quick and so stupid to believe everything they hear about this case.I hope Kobe is innocent also but you dont know HIM!!! anymore than you know the GIRL!!! She could be in it for publicity, He could be trying to get away with a crime.this reporter's story is typical B.S " I heard from a guy who heard from a guy"??? lets wake UP HERE!!! IF he is innocent i hope the charges are dismissed . But if the He is truly guilty , i hope he gets life. end of story

Young and Restless, I totally agree! *I* think it's wrong to convict ANYONE of rape if they did not do it......but race has nothing to do with that. And nor does her going to see him in his room. A woman IS entitled to change her mind. She may have expected fooling around, and not sex, or plain changed her mind, and as long as she made it clear that she wanted it to stop, if he did not, it IS rape. Legally too. However I do believe she consented to it......sex too. I believe, hope, that if she did indeed say no, Kobe would have stopped.....because she said no, and because he's not that dumb to risk something like not taking her "no" for what it is, a NO. (And yes, I could be wrong, and yes, maybe he did refuse to listen to her saying no, I just don't believe it)

April, OJ got more attention over Mike Tyson because it was made to be a race trial...and it was a murder trial....and because OJ claimed innocence, Mike admitted guilt.

(((Whispering......I think Kobe is innocent, Mike is guilty, and OJ was let free wrongly.....))))

We know something sexual happened.To what extent consentual,we have disagreement.Nineteen year olds,as with all age groups,have control issues.Sometimes bragging masks all manner of fears.Too soon to know what happened.All judgements may be clouded,or cleared,by our experiences.

I agree w/ whomever said that the accuser may have bragged out of fear or trauma.
Being raped does horrific things to your psyche.
Race is likely a non-issue.
lmao amgamd

So you saying she raped but don't know it yet, until people tell her she's raped and then that's when she cries rape?

I bet if her friends didn't say anything negative about her session with Kobe, she'd probably be very happy that she took his pole up her poop chute.

first of all, everyone here is entitled to their opinions. i myself think kobe is innocent, and that the girl had false hopes of a relationship. what we hear and see about her on the news gives us the right to make judgement on her.

secondly, why is the race thing even a consideration?? so what he was black and she was white! the point is he is male and she is female, and she is alledging rape. rape is a violent crime regardless of race.this race thing is annoying. i myself am ojibwe of the white earth nation...and you dont hear me complaining of the misgivings or other bs, of the native americans? in fact, u dont hear much of that period.

it is also possible for people of any age to fool around, and not have sex. just because she went to the room doesnt mean she wanted to have sex. that is just an issue of self control. some people have it and some dont. some people accept it, and some dont.

again, i believe he is innocent, but that is my belief, i may be wrong......

Very interesting thread. Everyone here is oblivious to the fact that we live in the US, on the surface White, Black, Yellow, Brown doesn't matter... but within the system it all does. Many whites see it, yet they ignore it, some others don't see it or just oblivious to it. This is not about everyone, but we are looking at prosecutors, lawyers - aged 40-55 here, now is anyone here willing tell me these same people who are now pressing charges against Kobe and licking their chops at the opportunity were protesting for the black kids to go on same school buses, protesting for equal rights??? I don't think so -. Regardless of what the story is Kobe has a disadvantage here I think we all should know that and see the reality here.

Each case is different, not one victim will act the same way but most follow a pattern. So bragging at a party is out of the norm for a victim, usually you don't talk about it, and avoid public interaction. If the past sucide attempts etc etc were to be true of the victim, yes I do see the chance of her pulling this stunt for publicity. What does the average American 19 year old girl look for, starve for? Attention and recognition. Some choose the wrong path, which may very well be in this case.

I cannot make an assumption about the prosecutor, but if what I have read so far were to be true, I only see jealous white prosecutors who are trying to bring down a young black athlete who has achieved what they are unable to acheive in their lifetime.

He deserves everything that happens to him in prison!

I am just saying "tat" cause *I* am white? LOL. Ok, whatever. How about seeing this case how it should be seen? If you are going to make this into a racial case, you need to be willing to accept all sides to that. You cannot claim race, or being black, for a reason or excuse....and then cry foul cause you are prosecuted and are claiming it was because you are black. It does not work like that. Attitudes like *yours* are what encourage the racial divide, in cases like this as well.

All races need to be seen as equal, and that includes in and of the race itself. I realize racism still occurs, and it should not. But I am also tired of people using their race as an excuse for crimes, or to get this or that.

Again, once more, I do not think Kobe is guilty.....is that cause I am white? Cause logic, using yours, says if race IS coming into play for me, I'd be saying he was guilty. Go figure, huh?

**** that weak ass hoe. trying to lie on my big homie. walt a minute, how in the hell she get in his room in the first place. That ***** is a gold digger, and is just in it for his money, kobe dont worry about this little bit cause if u keep your faith in god the truth will unfold.

I feel she knew what she was getting into the moment she went in his room. This is not six grade, she wasn't going to go in his room and kiss, and fulfill her dreams, she was going to ****. and thaqt's the bottom line she knew she wanted him.

I can't believe you feminists.
It could have happened to a white colored basketball player as well. Let's say, Ostertag from the Jazz. Ok, she says he raped her; he says she wanted to get laid. So they investigate. Now they've determined that force was involved with the intercorse. No Duuh! Black or white, you do need to "force" a large ***** into a small 19yr olds loins to have sex. It dosen't prove a thing. Bragging about having sex with him at a party- that's proves something. The sick little adultress was going to boff someone sooner or later. It just happened to be Kobe. Now it's a race issue like it or not. Bigger *****, bigger star, bigger thrill; that is, until daddy finds out who penitrated his little angel. See, now she's not bragging. She's ashamed of what she's done.

Kobe will be found innocent.

See people this girl is a ho if she wasn't then why the hell would she be braging

Raped or not, Ho or not . The point is the girl should have to share the blame, She should be held responsible for putting herself there to start with.maybe instead of force maybe she just got more then she could handle. Thing is when are these dumb ass Big name star's going to learn .

Why are you taking this bragging-at-a-party gossip like its scripture? There's no proof that happened and considering the source of that rumor...cuz that's what it is until proven to be true, is a boozing teenager...

Honestly, people need to just stfu and wait for the evidence to be presented. It's entire possible that Kobe raped the girl and it's entirely possible he didn't. Time reveals all truth.

It's disgusting how many people act like they were in the room and witnessed the event. None of you were there, none of you know jack sh*t about what happened.....So settle down.

It just doesn't make any sense to hold a girl responsible... the same way you don't hold children responsible for adult crimes.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Senator
[B]Why are you taking this bragging-at-a-party gossip like its scripture? There's no proof that happened and considering the source of that rumor...cuz that's what it is until proven to be true, is a boozing teenager...

How many people does it take to come forward and say that they witnessed her doing this before you acknowledge that it is in fact true?!

Here's a little "eduMAcation" for you........let's say I don't like you too much, and I want to get you into some legal trouble. I convince one of my female friends to say that you raped her and I convince another female friend that she should say that she saw you rape the first girl. That's where I come in as the second witness and say that I also witnessed you raping the first girl.

The two girls and myself decide to go down to the trusty police station to file a report of rape against you just because we think that you're a prick........do you think that you would get arrested?

You can bet your sweet ass that I just threw a BIG wrench in the machine that makes up your lifestyle, and if you don't have a VERY convincible alibi, a conviction is only a matter of time.

My point is that two or more witnesses saying the same story is almost concrete when it comes to law. There are 5 in this case saying that she was in fact bragging about his manhood. She's a lying peice of trash that has NO CLUE what it's like to be truly raped. He will be found innocent and if I were in charge, I would prosecute her in some manner for lying about the whole incident and causing a disruption in so many lives besides her measley, pathetic own life.

The next time she attempts suicide, someone should give her instructions on how to be successful.....

dirk

jus got here through google so don't jump on me if this was already posted.. kobe's guilty cause of the way he acted after the whole thing came out.. The stuff your hearing now is all staged- I thought he was innocent and was waiting for a public speech to the media asap that this was just another hoe.. but when you saw his face- that brotha was guilty.. if he was innocent he would'nt have acted like a lil ***** face hiding cause he was ashamed.. that's why I know he's guilty.. all this stuff now- given enough time anyone can convince themselves they were right and with the money he got in lawyers he might actually believe he could win- just look at oj.. ran from the police right after he killed his wife- given time he conviced himself he was right too and even convinced a jury.. I'm not white so don't think I'm just another whitie- just using my common sense.. should try it sometime- it'll help you peeps who can't see the truth

OJ, ran from the police and engauged in a car pursuit with a gun to his head. I certainly didn't see anything even close to that magnitude with what Kobe did. OJ was overwhelmingly guilty in everyone's eyes, and lucky for him, he had a predominantly African-American jury that must have been doing their nails and talking on cell phones rather than paying attention to the evidence in front of them.

Kobe held his head in shame because he committed adultery and tried to hide it from his wife and kid! Shame is a rather common emotion that one displays once you are busted and forced to speak about it in front of your significant other, don't you think?

As far as it all being staged, that's simply an ignorant comment that I refuse to reply to.....

he's guilty bro.. money don't mean nothing we all the same.. he woulda been bitter not all lil ***** faced

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031219/t/r3390442288.jpgYesterday at Colorado court, both the prosecution and defense were arguing over Kate's medical records where Kate was known to be under psychotic medication and had been in rehabs three times in 2003 - twice for attempting suicides episodes reportedly by the press. Could it be just another hearsay story? The fact pattern most favorable to Kate. Their version of Kate's events is published inOctober's Newsweek Magazine from MSNBC:<---Click Here

this for all u rascist white peeple here today, he tore that azz up, and i know he tore up a millon more azzzez up, and she wanted it, prooof is there .

i do agree that u r innocent until proven guilty....but the one area where he ****ed himself is, with the sodomy....she did go to the hospital and did recieve stitches....whethere she wanted it or not, sodomy is illegal in colorado. it is minor, but if the prosecution really wants to be an ass, then they can use it against him.....

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/WWKD1.jpg Compare this funny photo of the two heights and body sizes (if it comes up.) The State of Colorado didn't press charges on sodomy against Kobe. There is no evidence of that at the Preliminary Hearing, nor of unusually large cuts and lesions when examined by the Hospital Nurse. ] < --- Just Click Here He entered her in the back but that tearing could simply because of Kate's bigger appetite than intended by a small frame, not compatible with a foot taller huge athlete. It's not like she had no knowledge about penetration activities, having had sex apparently with three men on three different days (facts disclosed at PH.) It's just that she misjudged in the beginning moments knocking on Kobe's door near midnight, consenting to kissing, petting and going around the bases. Once started, apparently she felt lots of discomfort and when asking Kobe to stop - he in fact did. Then she left on her own free will. It's the morning after effect (hangover, guilt, shame and bleeding) that seems to be in dispute. Kate and Mom want to hang Kobe for rape which is under contention. Did she or didn't she consented? That's the big question.

Look at how much bigger in size for being a superstar NBA athlete. http://images.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2003-08/8894155.jpg Try to imagine the size from this picture instead of the one above which isn't opening up through that website.

SODOMY?, NOT IF SHE WANTED IT!
oh yea and the other 5 guys!

sodomy is illegal period in colorado...whether she wanted it or not....and by the way what does her being with other guys have anything to do with it?? im sure u know women ie....ur mom, sister, aunts, whomever that have been with more than one guy and probably more than five!! im sure she consented, but was physically in pain later, and probably realized her opportunity. she is in the wrong if she is lying, he is in the wrong period......he commited adultery, that is a sin. just one of those times where he should have practiced better judgement. unfortunately for most of these superstars, whether it be sports, film, television....they tend to think that they are immortal, and nothing with conflict with their status. and again, unfortunately for him, he made a huge mistake.

http://www.kobetimes.com/news_images/125_kate002.jpg The only thing I can see relevant would be the immediate proximity with the physical injuries Kate claims she suffered from Kobe's penetration and restraint which co-incidentally occurred at around the exact timeframe when she had sex with three different persons within three days. All Kate's boyfriends she dated more than a year ago probably have no relevance because she doesn't make any claims from those earlier physical bruises. The State need to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that other boy friends' contacts didn't caused her private area lesions and tear as well as the half penny bruise. Small bruises take days to show up.

im not an anarchists, im just saying its an outdated law and it needs to be changed.

and yea the other 60 guys did have sumthing to do wit it, and your just not admitting it

It's not just the law you're question as being dumb, but also the Colorado State, the Eagle County Sheriff Hoy, the Eagle State Prosecutor Hurlbert and Crittenden, the Judiciary as well as the local yokels. Perhaps, they're just looking to put themselves on the map with the Kobe publicity and don't really care much if Kate's case is strong and a winner.

Merry Xmas - going to party now...

NEWS FLASH, I saw on the news that lil Miss Innocent, made the whole thing up to make her ex-boyfriend jealous. The girl has some major issues, and her family sure better get help for her, and quick!!!!!!

The last presidential election was not decided by the electoral college, not the popular votes but selected by the U.S. Supreme Court of majority of nine 5-4. Need I say more? LOL

Point well made regarding inaccurate reporting by the media time and time again. Once in a while, they will come back on the air and make that correction publicly. Generally, the horse are already out of the barn. You get the idea.

i agree danielson

LOL

All this is really about is this girl thought she was going to mean more to Kobe than just a one night stand. She did not like being rejected and treated like a slut so she cried rape. Keep in mind this girl is only 19 and she just didn't know all a rape kit involved. No one told her before hand they were going to do a DNA test on her and her panties - otherwise, she would had known to wear a clean pair of panties.

The Bellboy (the witness) refused to do a DNA test - he just didn't want them to link one of those DNA samples collected to him.

As far as her injury - she never been with a black man before and the size of his penis was just too big for her and he POPPED that cherry.

http://www.kobetimes.com/news_images/125_bobpietrack.pg.jpg The Bellboy (the witness) refused to do a DNA test - he just didn't want them to link one of those DNA samples collected to him.

Let the Bryant Kobe trial serve as a warning. Women today may be free, but at the end of the day they are nothing more than a bunch of money grubbing sluts, who make up the rules, and change them as they go along, when ever they want something. If there are any would be trollops in the house, who think the whole wide world owes them a living, then they had better leave the house now!BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS YOU!