| Posted by: cheerleader13 | | It is so clear that Shannon should have won Fame, and not Harlemm! He's so old anyways, he's only gonna last a few years. Someone young and more talented should've won, instead of 'short, bald, and 35'.
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| Posted by: FilipinaPryde | | Shannon got a record deal as well. Beggars can't be choosers.
There are a LOT of stars that are old but still fresh. Johnny Depp, Michael Vartan, you get the picture.
If it was so clear, why did Harlemm win? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: cheerleader13 | | I'm talking about singers, not actors. Everyone knows that young talents are more popular than older ones. And, everyone knows that the music that Harlemm will make will be more based for younger people to listen to. I'm still so happy that Shannon got a record deal. This goes way back to the time of American Idol. Ruben was still the winner but Clay's records outsold Ruben's 4 to 1. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: ShannonFan | | i know she should have won, but at least she got a deal as well  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: FilipinaPryde | | The pre-teens and B. Spears lovers will probably flock to Shannon, since it seems that is what is selling these days. But for the people who are past the bubbly pop craze, however unpopular such a taste is, will go for Harlemm . | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: ShannonFan | | I'm past it and i love shannon and my aunt also loves her as well, as soon as the show was over, the phone rang and it was her, the first thing i heard was "that was a crock of ****",lol shannon is the real winner | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: scottle | |
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Originally posted by ShannonFan
shannon is the real winner |
umm NO she wasnt. Harlemm Lee is the real winner
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| Posted by: ShannonFan | |
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Originally posted by scottle
umm NO she wasnt? Harlemm Lee is the real winner |
ur not very smart, r u?
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| Posted by: singleta | | Shannon, In my opinion was the worst out of the four remaining finalist. What got her through was her beauty and not her talent. They were looking for a triple threat and I believe the Harlemm fits their moldCongrats Harlemm  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: mkabrisky | | Harleem has an amazing voice. It is sad that no one gave him a chance for show biz before his 36th birthday. For those who say he is old, well he looks younger than the other contestants!! Eventhough Shannon got a contract also, hers will not be quite the same as Harleems. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Newport | | Shannon does have talent -- as a dancer. Her singing voice wouldn't win any contests. She made it on her looks and her dancing. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: FilipinaPryde | |
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Originally posted by ShannonFan
ur not very smart, r u? |
Let's face it, you're both illiterate!
Newport, you're right on the money with that!
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| Posted by: cheerleader13 | | for those who say shannon can't sing, then why do you think she got a record deal?!? Also, they wouldn't have let her on the show if she couldn't sing and dance. Think people! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: cheerleader13 | | btw, for everyone that loves harlemm, some of you can't even spell his name right: mkabrisky, its harlemm, not harleem. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: triplefame | | shannon and harlem were both my 2 favorites. i never voted even once throughout the whole competiition. whoever won was whoever won. america voted and harlemm won fair and square. shannon is very beautiful but might have just been grouped with the other young, blond singers. johnny must have a thing for shannon who looks like britney spears. he looked like a fool when he said shannon would be the winner, and then immediately afterwards also gave her a record deal. obviously if harlemm, a minority won, then he has true talent that won over people of all races which makes up the melting pot of America. as much talent as harlemm has, i thought tonight that shannon had won because for the smallest minority group as an asian to win would really be something. america really made an amazing decision. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: tdang | | Cheerleaderfreak!!!
btw, for everyone that loves harlemm, some of you can't even spell his name right: mkabrisky, its harlemm, not harleem.
----it's Harlemm, not harleem----do you see the difference.
By the way, don't play the race game. Asians are so quiet, it is about time Harlemm rocks the Asian community. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Famester | |
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Originally posted by tdang
By the way, don't play the race game. Asians are so quiet, it is about time Harlemm rocks the Asian community. |
That's a stereotype. Asians are NOT quiet. Some of the biggest, loudest demonstrations I've ever seen on television were from Japan and South Korea.
Also, I work in an office, and one of my co-workers is a Chinese-American woman who curses like a sailor.
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| Posted by: Brit's Chipmunk | |
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Originally posted by Famester
Also, I work in an office, and one of my co-workers is a Chinese-American woman who curses like a sailor. |
uh huh, thas right. represent! *pounds chest*
hahah whatever, no one wants to play the race card but our society isn't ready yet for a completely race-neutral existance. sad but true.
as for harlemm being too old, well age is nothing but a number. plus, no one had a problem with his fake age at 27, because he looks so young. why is it that much of a problem now? did he suddenly get arthritis by coming out of the "old" closet?
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| Posted by: xoswtdreamsxo | | im not racist or anything, but asains are usually all stereotype ... like I only know i few that aren't stereotypical... but as for harlemn winning i wanted him to but i think shannon will be more successfull | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lumbee1luv | | GIVE ME A BREAK.....AGE IS JUST A NUMBER AND EVERYONE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME FROM THE SAME COOKIE CUTTER. IT IS ABOUT TIME IN THIS COUNTRY PEOPLE REALIZE THIS....BESIDES WHAT AGE IS TOO OLD? NO ONE REMAINS 21 FOREVER. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: gosing | |
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Originally posted by tdang
Cheerleaderfreak!!!
Asians are so quiet, it is about time Harlemm rocks the Asian community. |
I am a little tired of the "America together but separate", thing. Harlemm is so American to me. That is how I want to treat him and refer to him. In a way Asian is just how he looks.
Asians are quite, but they are stewing. I have a lot of Asian friends, and many are really talented, but more often they stew rather than do...if you know what I mean.
Personality wise, the quiet thing is not applicable. Ever go to a Chinese restaurant at night? Its like a night club!
However, in Asia, they shine.
In America, they are shy. It is time for them to break out. But not necessarily for someone else to break them out. 
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| Posted by: MoonLiz | | Uh, Tina Turner is like 63 or something.
So I don't really think age has anything to do with it, you silly people. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: alistair30 | |
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Originally posted by cheerleader13
It is so clear that Shannon should have won Fame, and not Harlemm! He's so old anyways, he's only gonna last a few years. Someone young and more talented should've won, instead of 'short, bald, and 35'. |
SHANNON CANNOT SING! SHE WAS OFF LAST NIGHT AS WELL! WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE BEST MAN WON! AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHAT WAS JOHNNY THINKING, WHY SIGN HER? WE WANT HARLEMM!
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| Posted by: ShannonFan | | How dare you say I'm illiterate! What I meant was that Shannon was the one who deserved to win fame, she put hard work and determination into all of her numbers. But at least she got a record deal, and she got where she did by her singing, dancing, and personality, not just her looks. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: T.L.B. | |
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Originally posted by singleta
Shannon, In my opinion was the worst out of the four remaining finalist. What got her through was her beauty and not her talent. They were looking for a triple threat and I believe the Harlemm fits their moldCongrats Harlemm |
I don't know, maybe some people could actually hear something in her voice that we couldn't.
Shannon was terrible at the low notes, but great at the high notes, that is, when she actually hit the right one.
I am happy with how the vote turned out, except for the fact that Shannon made it in the top two or even the top four for that matter.
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| Posted by: FilipinaPryde | | All right, I WILL admit Shannon has a great voice. However, she tries way too hard to bring it so low and diva it up, when all it ends up doing is wrecking the whole effect. If only she chose songs that were a little higher and more suited for her vocal range, then she would have received my vote. Yet she still insisted on going into a territory that she wouldn't do very well in.
Anyway, it's good to see, for once, something original hitting the CD racks. A short 36 year-old, bald Asian powerhouse. At last a breath of fresh air! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: kikig | | Well, Serena was my favorite...yes I know she is not a broadway dancer. BUT she had the best voice. Brandon and Harlem are both 3x threats. Shannon can not sing. So go Harlem! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Promo Mack | |
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Originally posted by ShannonFan
How dare you say I'm illiterate! What I meant was that Shannon was the one who deserved to win fame, she put hard work and determination into all of her numbers. But at least she got a record deal, and she got where she did by her singing, dancing, and personality, not just her looks. |
This is where you decide that it is time to grow up, and live in the real world. Shannon LOST, now GET OVER IT. Take your little fan club and move on. Enough of the "She deserved to win" crap. If she was the best, then why didn't she win? Wake up and smell yourself. She was NOT the best.
Reiterate that to your Aunt, your baby mommas cousin or who ever else feels she got robbed. 
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| Posted by: ShannonFan | | I am over it, and I'm going to say she deserved to win as much as I want. I like Harlemm as well, but she deserved it, uh oh, whoops, I said it again, too bad. O yea, and that was rude to diss on my family too. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Promo Mack | | Well atleast now she has a shot at being the stripper she has the potential to be. When are you going to understand that it was her looks that got her 90% of the way thru the competition and NOT her talent. I will agree that she is talented, but NOT enough to be the winner of this competition. AMERICA voted, she wasn't the whip like you think she is. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: oldbutafan | | Y'all ought to take a look at "Last Comic Standing". There is a young Asian contender, named Dat Phan ( Vietnamese ) who could possibly win. His sets have been far from "quiet" -- in fact, the last one was loud and almost lewd.
Further, I worked with many Asian ex-pats and very few fell into that quiet, shy almost subservient stereotype. In fact, quite the opposite. They were talented, bright, vocal, assertive, and even downright boisterous and demanding. Much the same as their American born peers  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: joseph1837 | | Shannon was great on fast numbers like "Proud Mary" but her voice waivered considerably (perhaps due to nerves?) on long notes during her ballads. I feel that she deserves a chance at a recording career but I wouldn't have placed her in even the top 4. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Llynhope333 | | Why did they let her on the show cheerleader? I asked myself the same question. She was inconsistant and a nervous wreck most of the time. She reminded me of a high school cheerleader in a high school talent show.
The only reason I can think of for her presence is that the girl is pure sex. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Newport | |
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Originally posted by Llynhope333
Why did they let her on the show cheerleader? I asked myself the same question. She was inconsistant and a nervous wreck most of the time. She reminded me of a high school cheerleader in a high school talent show.
The only reason I can think of for her presence is that the girl is pure sex. |
I think that answers the question. She's on the show and got a record deal because she's a cheerleader type. America loves cheerleaders.
Personally, I thought the way she stood with her legs so far apart was sleazy.
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| Posted by: JayDee073 | | Ok, I'm sorry but I have to say this...
You say the only reason Shannon made it to the final two was because of her looks. If Shannon was ugly I guarantee that you people would be saying differently. You would say she does have talent and deserves to win.
That is how America is. Some people cannot stand others who have looks AND talent. People who are compared to Britney Spears or someone else can't win competitons like this from the very begining. Shannon even inferred that she doesn't like being compared to her when asked about it and when they went to that clothes place.
Another example like this is on American Idol with Kimberly Caldwell.. she had looks and talent just like Shannon. Although I would say she is better than Shannon. She was voted off WAY too early. I had no doubt that she would at least make the top 5 because she was def. better than Carmen and Josh. But because she has looks.. she already has a burden not to win. Everyone automatically likes the underdog whether they have talent or not.
People need to get over the fact that there are good looking people who are talented too. Everyone can deny it all they want saying "What are you talking about? She has no talent!" But they would not have picked her to be on the show if she wasn't. Ohh, and earlier someone said Harlemm was a "powehouse." I'm sorry, but he is FAR from being a powerhouse. I don't understand what was so special about him.. but although my point again.. he was the underdog....
Shannon deserved to win... I liked her as soon as I saw her perform her first time. And to tell you the truth.. I was actually shocked to see that she got as far as she did because of people like you posters saying she has no talent. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: gosing | |
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Originally posted by JayDee073
Ok, I'm sorry but I have to say this...
You say the only reason Shannon made it to the final two was because of her looks. If Shannon was ugly I guarantee that you people would be saying differently. You would say she does have talent and deserves to win.
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If Shannon was ugly, she would have been voted off in the original elimination rounds.
Correction... she would not have made it to T.V!
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| Posted by: cheerleader13 | | ok, I have to say this: I completely agree with llyndee with her post about shannon. Ya'll should stop and think about the fact that when Fame started, they were looking for a 3x threat. America voted her through to the top 4, so people obviously like her. And btw, will you people stop comparing shannon to a cheerleader? Just because she is beautiful with blonde hair and stuff, this doesn't at all mean that she is a cheerleader. Stop the stereotypes. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: achilds | | Thank you and just because of this small representation of public on this board disagree there are a ton of people that support her and know that she has talent, and has what it takes. And, yeah she is pretty, and maybe if she would have been not so pretty she would have been take it better (on this board). Regardless they both got deals so good for them. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: luvnshannon00 | | Im EXTREEMLY dissapointed about shannon She is just Awsome!! she was the whole Package !! but what can u do but be very dissapointed i votedm as many times as they let me so :-( i wish her the best of luck !! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: ddkay | | Ummm... cheerleader13, she worked in Portland as a professional cheerleader. That was one of her jobs. Cheerleader is not a derogatory in this case, it was a career. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Newport | | Talent is in the "ear" of the beholder. When I heard Shannon sing, I cringed at the growling, the lost notes, the wavering and quavering.
Her performance of "I Will Survive" was one of the worse renditions of that song that I've ever heard.
I wish there had been vocal teachers and sound engineers watching Fame the way that they watched American Idol. These were true vocal experts who would comment and post about the quality of the singing voices on American Idol.
Shannon Bex would NEVER have made it to the finals of American Idol. She does NOT have singing talent. She is a trained dancer, but being a good dancer does not automatically make anyone a good singer as well.
Shannon's voice will have to be majorly masked in the studio. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Newport | |
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Originally posted by achilds
Thank you and just because of this small representation of public on this board disagree there are a ton of people that support her and know that she has talent, and has what it takes. And, yeah she is pretty, and maybe if she would have been not so pretty she would have been take it better (on this board). Regardless they both got deals so good for them. |
People are not annoyed that Shannon got a deal because she's attractive. People are annoyed that she got deal because there were other contestants with better voices who didn't get a deal.
By the way, prettiness and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people think that Jamisen is more beautiful than Shannon.
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| Posted by: gosing | |
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Originally posted by ddkay
Ummm... cheerleader13, she worked in Portland as a professional cheerleader. That was one of her jobs. Cheerleader is not a derogatory in this case, it was a career. |
Thats kickin it to the ddkay!
I saw the pictures of her in her cheer leading outfit. She seemed very proud of her job.
So stop complaining people about the cheerleader comparisons! She was smiling when she showed those pictures. Smiling! Be happy for the cheerleader. Don't think it is always a negative thing.
America does love cheerleaders. 
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| Posted by: ShannonFan | |
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Originally posted by Promo Mack
Well atleast now she has a shot at being the stripper she has the potential to be. When are you going to understand that it was her looks that got her 90% of the way thru the competition and NOT her talent. I will agree that she is talented, but NOT enough to be the winner of this competition. AMERICA voted, she wasn't the whip like you think she is. |
Maybe I'm not going to understand it because there is nothing to understand! Shannon got where she was by her talent, dancing, and personality.
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| Posted by: Thebtlz | |
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Originally posted by cheerleader13
It is so clear that Shannon should have won Fame, and not Harlemm! He's so old anyways, he's only gonna last a few years. Someone young and more talented should've won, instead of 'short, bald, and 35'. |
I'm not going to bother reading all the pages to this, but the "short, bald, and 35" comment is just so stereotypically dull of someone to say. I think all the above are attributes; it's invigoratingly new, different, and entertaining.
With regards to Shannon, she was a great dancer and cute. But a great singer? NO, and I could never get past that. She lost it when she tried to sing "I Will Always Love you". I almost had to mute the TV.
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| Posted by: Thebtlz | |
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Originally posted by Newport
Talent is in the "ear" of the beholder. When I heard Shannon sing, I cringed at the growling, the lost notes, the wavering and quavering. |
Thank you! You hit the nail right on the head. What was up with all that growling?! I noticed that the first time I ever saw her perform. God, that's got to be rough on the vocal chords.
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