What do you see for the future 6th HP book?

Book 6: HP & the Half-Blood Prince Forum

What does everyone think that the next book will hold for Harry and everyone at Hogwarts? Who do you think will choose sides, out in the open, that we weren't aware of before? He will become a couple? Do you think that anyone will die? Who do you see for the future Defense Against the Dark Arts (DADA) professor? Will they last into the 7th year? Will Snape and Harry come to any sort of truth?

Share your thoughts about where you would like to see the next book go? Where you THINK it will go!!!

I think that Dumbledore will die at the end oh the 6th book. Indeed, he is a strong wizard, and so as long as he will be alive, Harry will not be able to fight properly Voldemort. That's why I think Dumbledore will disapear at the end of the 6th book (why not while trying to save Harry from Voldemort ; it would be a nice end for him).

I hadn't thought about that. I guess with Dumbledore around, Harry has a lot of protection. I guess that Voldemort would like him out of the way... for good. I just don't know if JKR will off him though. I would be really sad to have Dumbledore killed... but if he were to meet his end, I can't see a better way that protecting Harry, and trying to defeat Voldemort.

I can see that maybe being the way JK could go, that might be why she distanced d'dore throughout the 5th book, besides the fact of of doing so to distance d'dore from (Harry) voldermort.


I think the mirror that Sirrus gave to Harry is also going to play a large roll in the next book, I am not exactly sure in how it will play a role but the fact that harry finds it right at the end, I think it is not the last time we are going to see it.

I also think that Harrys summer may not be quite as loanly not that he knows a Squib who lives in hus aunt and uncles neighbourhood. The cat lasy who used to babysitt him that we see at the beginning of the 5th book.

i always thought that Dumbledore was going to die somewhere in bk 7. i can't picture bk 7 beginning w/o dumbledore. i mean, JK would have to go into choosing a new headmaster/mistress. and also, D'dore dying in bk 6 would leave Harry completly unprotected in bk 7.

i would like to see the mirror come back, but i don't think it will. remember how harry broke it at the end of the book?

as much as i love sirius, i think he's really dead, and i think that that's for the best. it would play with our emotions (and harry's) too much to have sirius suddenly come back after harry thought he saw him die.

i think that in bk 6, harry will have a girlfriend but they'll break up by the end of the book. and in bk 7, either harry's love interest will be introduced or harry's love intrest will be someone we already know (coughcoughginny) and harry will fall in love with her in bk 7.

You've made a good point, miniluv. I guess thinking about it, I don't think that I could see book 7 starting without Dumbledore in there. Maybe somewhere in that book, he will die, but hopefully, if at all, not before then.

I'm not sure if I see Harry in a relationship in book 6, or just really developing some good connections with a lot of people, including girls, and then, developing into something more, in book 7.

I think that we will see Harry continuing on teaching DADA to other students, as well as learning more and more for himself. And I think that we will see Neville become a lot better with magic. Heck... maybe even Seamus will do spells without things blowing up in his face. Anything is possible, right? LOL

I agree that killing Dumbledore at the end of book 6 would be messy. I also think he is the character who holds everything in balance and book 7 would be empty and awkward in his absence. I'd have no problems with him dying at the end of book 7 though. If Voldemort is also destroyed then it would bring a feeling of closure to the series, if a slightly tragic one.

I too believe that Dumbledore's death in book 6, or even in the beginning of book 7 would throw things really off of balance. He does tend to keep things in balance and order. He brings a lot of protection to Harry as well. After all, he is the only one that Voldemort has ever feared.

I agree that book 6 will be a lot about Harry's relationships with girls - I'd say Luna not Ginny though - and about Harry dealing with the pain of Sirius's death. That's another thing why he might get along good with Luna - don't you think their last conversation was one of the best parts of the book**?*
I don't think JKR will try to write a detective-like story like in previous books, it would be more about Harry's-and-his-friends' *private* lifes. However, at the end of the book, something shocking will happen that will remain unsolved and raise tensions for the last book. Something like a sudden Voldemort's attack, or someone's betrayal, or something happening to/with the Dursleys...
And it would be great if Snape finally gets his bloody DADA teacher job! -- at least we would get rid of him soon afterwards - - just kidding -- Snape's cool:-)
About Dumbledore - I don't think he will be murdered in the 6th book, because it would really be too much - after Harry's lost Sirius and everything.
But in any case, I think at the end of book 7, both Harry and Voldemort will have to accept the things they really hate about themselves - Harry being parcel-mouth&co., and Voldemort being a halfblood. Those two things will be really important in the *grand finals**
can't wait**

I agree about the final conversation between Harry and Luna being a highlight of the book. We're given a sudden insight into the similarities and differences that these two characters share. I also agree with the comment about the final books concerning relationships rather than the detective nature of the first four. I think TOOTP has begun this new trend. I personally enjoyed the investigation side of the books as JKR really displayed her ability to create complex and twisting plots as well as interesting characters.

I, unlike a lot of people, it seems, really liked Luna Lovegood. She brought in a completely different character than we've seen so far, and gave Harry someone to relate with in ways that no one else does. I would love to see something develop between the two, even if it's just a really close friendship like Harry has with Hermione. I think that Luna would be a good match for Harry and offer up so many new avenue's of possibilities for story lines.

I think that we're definately going to be seeing Harry's grievances over the loss of Sirius. I think that we will see him go through many different emotions including, anger, fear, resentment, loss, and just pure sadness. But, I think that we're going to see him mature though dealing with this loss.

If Snape were to be given the DADA class to teach, I don't think that we would see it in book 6. I think that it would be something at the end of book 7. Like being rewarded this class because he has shown what a great strength he possesses for that that particular art.

I would love to see more of the Dursley's in the next two books. They really aren't in them but the beginning and end. I would like to see that open up for more interaction with them in different places throughout the book.

I think Luna's brilliant. As I said, the final conversation between her and Harry shows the beginning of an understanding between them. And I don't think we have to worry about whether or not she's going to stick around -JKR spent a whole chapter on her introduction, so she's not going to be written out any time soon.

Yes, I don't think that she will be written out either. There was too much emphasis put on her during, what I think were, key parts.

I thought this book was a great installment, but did anyone think that, especially in light of its length, not all that much happened. I find it really easy to remember the other four books, because they all have some kind of defining characteristic. Book 1 was the introduction to the wizarding world. Book 2 took the series in a darker direction. Book 3 had a brilliant twist at the end. Book 4 was the first of the 'bigguns' and yet it made full use of this extra page space with a brilliantly complex plot and the memorable Triwizard Tournament. Yet, despite Book 5's dark nature and its size, very few memorable events actually take place. There's Luna's introduction, Sirius' death, and the Ministry at last admitting to Voldemort's return. I obviously appreciate that other things take place, but I just don't feel that the book has a quality that is individual enough for it to stand on its own, rather than merely an installment in a series. Although the book is bigger, it seems JKR is using the space for heavy description rather than plot-building. After all, we don't even get to Hogwarts until something like page 180, which is close to the size of the first book. It's just something I had to get off my chest.

i think JKR did this because she needed this book to plant seeds so to speak for the next two books so that they will make sense she needed to introduce many new things and darker secrets that she did not get to bring into the first 4 books. I think the next 2 will probably have more of a plot that TOOTP. She needes this books mostly to explain things. Thats my perspective on it anyway.

i agree that the last book created a very different feeling than the first four. as i said before (somewhere), i didn't like the book as much ..

i kinda missed a real story line (like in the first four books), it seems as if JKR just strung together different events, introducing lots of people, places and ideas .. (which i love, of course) ..

to me, the first book, there was the introduction to the wizarding world (both good and bad) .. the second book, there was this chamber, that made Hogwarts go crazy .. the third book, the story of Harrys parents and his godfather and the awesome ending with the time turner .. the fourth book has three big stories in it - the quidditch world championchip, the triwizard tournament and the the fight with voldemort .. and the fifth book .. eeeh .. hmmm .. oh yeah, Sirius died ..

even though i believe that TOOTP is written really really well, to me, it is still some sort of transition to last two books .. and to be honest .. i don't understand what took JKR so long to release this book (compared to the time she needed to write book four, for example) .. not that i am impatient or something ;o)

ineli

Phoenix, I agree with you. The next two books will probably be a lot more like TOOTP, in the sense that they will be lengthy, with a lot more than just being at Hogwarts. There are too many characters now to have it be so short. And I love that. We get a little character development. And there's more complexity to the story now, because as we learn more, and even with Voldemort being back now, there is just bound to be so many twists and turns.

ineli, I think that it took JKR so much longer to release this fifth book because she fell in love, worked on preparing for a wedding, getting pregnant, having a child.... LIFE!!! It bothered me that we had to wait three years for the book, but JKR did have a lot going on. I would have put HP on the back burner of life if I was in her shoes too. I mean... there was a lot of things that she was focusing on... and writing isn't her only role in life. Wife, mother, daughter, friend, etc... Though, I do hope that these next two don't take three years each. But, time will tell.

i'm a reader here .. i don't care *lol* .. i just hope she doesn't marry again the next four years and that it doesn't take her as long again to write the next books ..

no, i am just kidding, i know she is very busy .. a little whining and wailing helps though

ineli

I agree... she betting not get pregnant again until AFTER she's finished books 7, AND it's been published and released to us. After all, we don't ask for much... do we?

From what I've read and heard, JKR has already finished book 6 and 7. The only thing left is some fine tuning, editing, and small additions. But she is a perfectionist and that's probably why it took her so long to release book 5. My other theory would be that books 1-4 were praised beyond belief and JKR had to make sure that books 5-7 exceeded expectations.

You see it all the time, a great movie is released and everyone is eagerly anticipating the sequel. When the sequel does come out, IT SUCKS, because it could not live up to the standards of the first movie. I think that was the fear with book 5.

In regards to Ineli's comments, I agree that books 1-4 had more character development and flow, but I personally think that everything was already explained. We have seen harry grow up before our eyes and every aspect of his life has been excellently described to us. Now in book 5, all the holes that were left unfilled must be filled. It's almost like another chapter in harry's life is about to begin. Therefore, there's more explaining in book 5 and more background information. When book 6 & 7 rolls around, we should expect to see more deep story lines.

There were some things that stood out in book 5, for me. Like Harry teaching a private class for DADA. Neville learning a lot more than it seems that he's been able to in the past. Harry's first kiss. Some what of "open discussion" in the Dursley house of the wizarding world. Sirius' death. Voldemorts return in the flesh, and everyone now knowing about it. The truth about WHY Harry has been the main target of Voldemort's. The twins going to do what they've wanted, all along. Finding out about Mrs. Figg.

I think that I could go on... but you get the picture. I agree that this last book isn't the best that has been put out of the series, but I have to say that I loved it, just as much. I just feel that JKR has taken the level of the books to a higher standard, and that it's going to stay there. I guess that I stand alone, at least on this board, saying that I felt that I got a lot more from book 5 than other books. I got so many questions answered... and that's what I want. And I really like the darkness to the books, and am looking forward to there being more, and more, in the next two.

oh, i definitely agree that the phoenix book is necessary to lift the reader up to the next level of story line .. a more mature (both in characters and writing) level that will go on in the next two books ..

i am also sure that once we read the sixth and seventh book, we will all agree that the fifth book was definitely needed and that it couldn't have been different at all ..

i wouldn't wonder if she really does have the last two books finished by now .. she must have had all seven books in her head when she started the first one, don't you think??? her mind is just soooo amazing ..

i am wondering whether she writes the books all by herself or if she has little helpers (like people who keep suggesting things and who try to find out mistakes and stuff) ..

ineli

KJ,

why do you like the darkness so much? .. that is actually one reason why i never watched the second Lord of the Rings - movie .. too dark for me ...

and yes, there were a lot of answers in the fifth book, but to me, there were much more new questions ..

just today i talked to a friend about the book and he compared the last big fight to a cheap eastern action movie .. i had to agree, kinda .. they would turn a fight like that into a great action scene for the movie, but it didn't really belong in the book .. (like we talked about JKR's following a more movie - like story line) .. well, ignore me, i am just rambling on ...

ineli

Actually, I like the darkness of the story because it is necessary to have to meet the requirements of the finality in the entire plot. Just like in the Lord of the Rings. And I LOVED that too. It's not like I like darkness, but if it's in a story, and it's necessary to get through to a conclusion, than I want it in there. Besides, this is the wizarding world. It's not all light and happy. Just like true life. I think that the darkness represents the times that we're going through struggles, etc... in our lives and how to cope with it, walk through it to the other side, and still be a survivor, no matter what.

I also agree that the darkness is necessary. Not only is JKR trying to bring a realistic atmosphere to the whole series by basing it in human emotion, but she is using darkness to show that fantasy worlds don't have to be happy ones -'not all wizards are good'

Oh..... sooooooooooooo true. Not all fantasy worlds are happy. I have read too many books where it's all just fairies, and nothing goes wrong, good always wins, there is no evil, etc... That's not real life, and sometimes, you want the real put in with the fantasy. And, the HP books border onto real life. It's not a different world or something. And that's something that I truly like about these books.

somepne please tell me what TOOTP meens! thankz!

The Order of the Phoenix

It's the fifth book in the Harry Potter series

i've had long, drawn out arguments with my friends about the merits and pitfalls of the 5 th book, and here's what wee came up with:

bk 5 was a "filler" book so to speak - that is, it didn't have much action or progress. however, bk 5 did have alot of plot twists and character development. i liked how there was it pause between voldemort returning and the "second war" actually beginning; i liked the growing tension and fear as the ministry continued to deny that voldemort was back. i think Rowling intended that. the 5th book manages to be gripping and engaging without the mystery and suspense of the other books.

i also agree with PhoenixSong that bk 5 is kind of like the beginning of the second half of the series. alot of things that were left haning in this book (percy and the waesleys, luna lovegood, fudge being an inept minister) are going to become big issues in the next 2 books. i mean, if you went back to bk 1, you could find alot of things that weren't really expained or seemed unimportant (harry's dad saving snape, why voldemort wanted to kill harry) but were later huge. i think bk 5 is like that; that as long and drawn out as it seemed, it'll be the foundation for the last 2 books. i think the next 2 books will be mpore like books 1 through 4 (full of action) but book 5 was needed to explain things and take a break from the action.

okay .. i agree, the dark mood is necessary .. but did Harry have one happy thought throughout the whole book? .. i do understand the darkness of the story, but it really is depressing .. somehow ..

ineli

Yes... remember after he received a kiss from Cho in their secret DADA training room? He went back to the Gryffindor house, floating on air!!! Those were some happy thoughts.

Has anyone ever talked to a fifteen year old before...they are all dark and brooding and depressed and angry.

okay,remember the scene when Harry saw his mom and dad at Hogwarts?
they hated each other,isn't that the same thing with Harry and Cho...and nobody said something about Malfoy

Good point, Nion. James liked Lily, but she was not interested in him at all.

That's right. Cho... she just isn't Gryffindorian enough. She's never there when Harry needs her.

Good point!!! But, he still might not end up paired with someone from his house. I think that there is a lot of potential with Luna Lovegood. I've thought that since she was introduced in book 5.

Could be, but it is almost too obvious! There may be somebody that we will meet in the new books or nobody at all. Rowling does not make romance a big topic I think.

Luna is soooo cool! It would be great to see her and Harry together.

I know... I really like Luna. And, I started liking her because that's my cat's name!!! But, she's just a cool character!!! I can see them together!

okay,again Malfoy would want revenge
And what about wormtail's dept?

Yeah, right - what's Wormtail doing now anyway? He doesn't have to take care of Voldemort any more and he's incompetent to battle the Order... Perhaps he might be switching sides... when he realizes he's as unnecesarry to the bad guys as to the original Order...

AND WHAT ABOUT MALFOY'S REVENGE???!!!!

A barking dog does not bite.

i have a scar to prove that he does Bite....

Okay, okay - Malfoy wants revenge, so what? He can't make Harry's life a lot worse than he already makes. I think when his father escapes from Azkaban - which will happen soon - Draco will join the Death Eaters, and that's about it.

no,no,no...Draco will be a spy,and will try to Jinx Harry whenever he can

Yeah... I would not be surprised at all if Draco follows in his fathers footsteps. But, he's got a lot of growing up to do. I think that if you put him and Harry in a wizarding fight, Harry would win. Well, I say that because we've seen all the DADA that Harry can do. They haven't shown much, really, of what Draco can do.

I don't see how Draco could be a spy. They would already suspect him. It's the ones that you would never suspect that you would want as spies.

Draco will still be at Hogwarts,and he is not blind...he can tell them something

That's true... but still, they will all do anything to keep Draco and the Slytherins from seeing what they do, and hearing what they say. It's going to be interesting, that's for sure.

a question,in the year 4,who was teaching DADA?

Huh... good point...

Moody (Crouch's son, impersonating Moody)

ups,me forgot

Ooops, I thought you were trying to say there might be some Polyjuice-Potion-uses by the Slytherins... Draco for one... just like Barty Crouch did

yeah,that's a great way to spy..using the polyjuice potion

Hey... that's a good idea. I guess that could work. The Slytherins are cunning enough to do it. And, none of them know about Harry and Ron doing that, and posing as Crabb and Goyle. So, since no one knows about it... I don't think that anyone would be thinking about it.

I would use the potion to get whatever information that I needed, if I was in that situation.

and they could but a Invisible Cloak,or learn a invisibility spell

There's another possibility. Harry could use his to do some spying as well. Maybe he will try to see what is going on with the death eaters by easedropping on Draco's conversations.

Do you think that one of them could have an invisibility cloak on and follow the other house through their secret passage to their common area, and just sit in there and see what could be picked up? Or, would the portraits know that they were there? Or even the ghosts?

Wait - I can't remember right now, but how exactly did Harry and Ron get in the Slytherin commons in the CoS? They were disguised in Crabbe and Goyle... and then? What happened? How did they pass the entrance to their common room if they didn't know the password? Because they might be doing something like that again.

They took that potion that Hermione made. Then they went out to the area where the entrance of the Slytherin house is. When they were near the door, they just waited, and Draco came along and said... "There you two are. Where have you been?" One of them said in the library.

In the library? Crabbe and Goyle?!
+rolls+of+laughter+**and Malfoy bought that?!

I know... that was so funny. So, do you think that it's something that might be used again... the potion? Or an invisibility cloak? How do you think that there might by spying in the next book, to get information from the other "camps?"

Oh, everyone will be using everything. But this Invisibilty Cloak, i don't think it's very safe. There are a lot of ways to see through it. So Harry&co. might use it, but i don''t think it will be for long because they'll be discovered soon. Or almost discovered. Invisibility charm is great and I think we'll see someone using it in the next books. And there might be other ways to disguise yourself... Or Nion's Dark Lord might come up with new ones...

I can't wait to see what they come up with!!!

Well, let's help Harry out too. Maybe we can come up with some new spells that will help us out. And I'm sure that we could get the help of Dumbledore and McGonagall too.

Blackrius-makes go blind

Wowww agent mike!
I felt the same way about this book. Don't take me wrong, I love HP, and wished that I lived in the world of Hogwarts instead of this boooring planet earth, but I did realize that for such length, not many memorable things happened.
It was great to read your comment and realize that it was the same thing I felt. But aside from this, I thought it was a great book. I plan on reading it again, just to make sure I got everything right.