| Posted by: clayfan101 | | That was a little harsh, but yea, I agree 100%. Bye the way.....there are way more Clay posts than Ruben posts, and on Amazon.com, Clay's not yet released album is #2 and Ruben's is #453! ok, well, Buh bye!
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| Posted by: Achin4ClayAiken | | GO CLAY GO CLAY! I never even got one vote in for Clay. I knew that there had to be something wrong because I had ALWAYS gotten in before! JERKS WHO KNEW CLAY WAS BETTER AND COULDNT STAND TO SEE HIM WIN!!! Grrr....... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Achin4ClayAiken | | Whta did he do that Clay didnt... or should I say clay did everything... what did Ruben do? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: T.L.B. | | Ruben won, plain and simple. There is nothing anybody can do to change it. Why keep it going? Just let it go already. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Achin4ClayAiken | | You dont think I nkow Ruben won... uh cuz I do. You should tell all of the Clay haters to stay off of his threads. If you dont like Clay... GeT OUT! We never asked you to come and we arent asking you to stay. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: T.L.B. | |
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Originally posted by Achin4ClayAiken
You dont think I nkow Ruben won... uh cuz I do. You should tell all of the Clay haters to stay off of his threads. If you dont like Clay... GeT OUT! We never asked you to come and we arent asking you to stay. |
As a Ruben hater, why are you on his thread?
I never said that I hate Clay, cuz I happen to love him, as I do Ruben. I think you are being much too harsh and dwelling on a issue that should have been buried long ago.
Does it really matter who won and who is outselling who? Just enjoy whomever it is that you enjoy listening to. Be thankful for the beauty that exists in music, all music.
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| Posted by: clayfan101 | | i just think that if Clay's phone lines were jammed, that should mean that it was busy because of too many votes, which obviously means Clay should've won, especially if Ruben's lines were always available. i think that Clay DID win, especially since he's more successful now. Ruben's good, but i just think he's 2nd best to Clay.
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| Posted by: Achin4ClayAiken | | I never said I was a Ruben hater I'm just a Clay lover. Yea Ruben won but it isnt "plain or simple." To many things to think about that could have gone wrong! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Achin4ClayAiken | | I totally agree about his lines being busy because of toooo many votes! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: T.L.B. | |
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Originally posted by Achin4ClayAiken
I never said I was a Ruben hater I'm just a Clay lover. Yea Ruben won but it isnt "plain or simple." To many things to think about that could have gone wrong! |
Does it really matter? Clay has started a great career, without the AI title. The fact that Ruben won, is plain and simple, because there is nothing you can do about it. They both deserve great music careers and are getting them. You should really drop all the bitterness and just enjoy Clay a little more. After all, he is happy about the way things went, so why shouldn't you be as well?
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| Posted by: Achin4ClayAiken | | I am happy for Clay and believe me a I am enjoying him every minute I can get. AI is just a title and it doesnt matter but I still feel CLay deserved it more. I'm happy that they are both donig great and I wish them BOTH the best of luck! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Achin4ClayAiken | | Why do people always think that. NObody ever said we HATED Ruben! We like Clay better and thats all there is to it! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: clayfan101 | | Just cuz we like Clay doesn't mean we hate Ruben. It doesn't mean we are racist or mean to fat people. Ruben is talented, Clay is just better.
I Clay!!!!! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: clayfan101 | | Hey, Ruben can still catch up to Clay, he's only like 270 spots away from him on the best sellers list on Amazon.com. I guess all those fans that voted for Ruben don't really want his CD?
i Clay Aiken!!!!!!!! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nellychic4eva | | but it aint fair that he gets bigger and better things 4 being in AI when Ruben is the one who won Ai get OVER it | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: imkazzle | | Clay IS better! i hate it how ppl always say that clay should go to theater or broadway. there is no "broadway" voice. Clay has a good voice though, and nowadays it's the more "marketable" ppl that are always becoming stars rather than the ppl with naturally good talent like Clay. all they do is take somebody that's pretty, have them sing, and mess with their voices on computers and all this crap. But Clay has a good voice and it CERTAINLY doesn't need messing around with, so why should he go to theater!?!?! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Achin4ClayAiken | | Ok whatever that nellychic wrote I COULD NOT understand. And Ruben wont he Title of AI but thats it. NOTHING ELSE> Clay won the hearts of fans, #1 spot on Amazon for his CD before it came out, more fame, being on teh cover of Roll STones mag. What else besides the title did Ruben "win"? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: ClayFan4ever | | I am happy for Clay and every moment that I get to see him and I have nothing against Ruben all that I have to say is that if the phone lines were not jammed then Clay would have won but I think that he has come out better from it | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: cLayAiKeN313 | | yah..i think SO many votes were poring it..it malfunctioned and like broke down | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: PhantomStallion | | Its all a matter of opinion... people sometimes like different things. I personally like Clay better, but other people like Ruben better. Not that I don't like Rubens voice, cause I do love it, just not as much as Clays.... There, I said my opinion in the nicest way I knew how. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: openarms0002 | | i agree 1000000%..ive been tryin to explain the whole phone line thing to my friends but they think im just obsessed and a sore loser. which maybe we r but i believ wat u said. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: claysgurl | | I luv Clay and if Ruben really wanted to he could probably come close to Clay, but the problem is that he ISN'T trying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hot4johnstevens | | I think Clay should of won but I think Ruben had to win to get a CD deal...Simon was going to give clay one no matter what..so it didn't matter if he won or lost.... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: claysgurl | | Yeah Ruben probably wouldn't have gotten a record deal if he wouldn't have won, if he would have gotten like 4, he would be out cold probably without any record deals, sorry to say that, but I'm pretty sure that it is true. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hot4johnstevens | | I don't think Ruben would of gotten a deal if he didn't win!!!! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hot4johnstevens | | clay would have gotten one either way as we all know...so I think it was alright that Ruben won because he got his deal... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: schmiggens | | I don't know if it's any different there than it was here, but I don't think that they have to give the winner a record deal. The prize on offer is a "chance" to win a million dollar recording contract. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: clayfan101 | | wow... i didn't know that. I thought the winner automatically got signed | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: schmiggens | | Like I said, I know some of the shows in Australia did it that way. I don't know about America though. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hot4johnstevens | | I'm unsure about how it works but I thought the winner got a deal no matter what..... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: claysgurl | | Yes, the winner does get a record deal no matter what in the us at least. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hot4johnstevens | | yea, that would of been bad if like Ruben won and didn't get a deal but Clay did!!!!! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hot4johnstevens | | I know that would of been funny if that happen. I hope Diana doesn't pull a Justin because that would be really bad.... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Aiken4OMC | | you know, Justin's cd just failed, because barely anyone knew it came out, i dont think it was getting much promotion either...cause i never knew there was a Justin Guarini 2yrs, ago, i thought there was just a kelly....i'm sure you get signed with BMG, or something, and BTW Ruben deserved his win of AI2. | | Reply To this Message
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Adult Contemporary/Pop Music Forum: Ruben Shouldnt Have Won
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