So what was the war all about ????

Post-9/11 Era Forum

Its been some months since my last post. The war has ended and still we are being fed with the same stuff about how just and right was the war. I dont see it like that. All the major objectives in both campaigns against Afghanistan and Iraq havent been met. Neither Bin or Saddam have been brought to justice. No WMD have been found. People lifes there still wait to turn to the better. So making a sum of the past months we see that all the war was about was for nothing... EXCEPT that damn oil and control of the region for USA. Congratulations to those who support the war. Their wallets must feel a bit heavier from now on.................

hi loft,

you are right about the major objectives not reached but about the right or wrong the war was, yes, people still care about that, hopefully, if it was not the case this would open the door to a new brand of dictatorship .....

June 25, 2003 — U.S. troops have uncovered millions of documents that detail Iraq’s massive chemical and biological weapons programs. It’s good news for America, but bad news for Bush-haters still looking for a reason to criticize the war.

Remember the U2 song with the hook “How long…how long must we sing this song?” Well, it’s an appropriate chorus for those of us still dealing with those on the left who hate the fact that America won the war.

They first predicted a quagmire; they were wrong.

They then blasted the President for not putting in the troops required to win the war; on that count, they were wrong.

When we breezed into Baghdad, Bush-haters then predicted prolonged riots and chaos, saying Baghdad was better off with Saddam, wrong again.

Then they moved on to Pottery-gate, with Peter Jennings and the New York Times blaming America first for the looting of 170,000 priceless artifacts. When that number ended up being closer to 30, no apologies, no retractions.

Then they moved on to Weapons of Mass Destruction, so blinded by their hatred of Bush that they forgot Saddam himself admitted having the weapons in 1998, and the UN confirmed that fact last fall.

And today, these poor, whining naysayers have been proven wrong once again.

NBC learned this afternoon that these documents give detailed instructions on how to hide materials and lie to UN weapons inspectors, and how to hide the deadly VX nerve gas. US troops also found materials to make the extremely deadly biological agent Ricin.

On top of that, an Iraqi scientist also led troops to nuclear weapons parts and documents that were to be used to restart Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program.

All in all, a great day if you believe stopping the proliferation of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons is a good thing. But, it was a very bad day indeed if world security takes a back seat to your personal hatred of George W. Bush.

[Joe Scarborough on “Scarborough Country,” 10 p.m. ET, weeknights on MSNBC TV.]

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And the Kurds? Were the kurds a sworn enemy of the US in the 1980s as well?

Saddam does what he wants, not what rational people think.
Don't blame the U.S. for this maddness.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Well actually the US helped Saddam out with agricultural exports after he gassed the Kurds because he had killed lots of farmers in his mini-genocide and Iraq was facing a food shortage as a result. US might not have pulled the trigger but they gave him the gun.

Surely Slow,
Do you have a response. Not sure I could pick one out amongst the ridicule you find so much easier to write. Do you have an explanation as to why your administration at the time helped Saddam after his Kurd gassing foray.

Interesting: Remember this is only the media.
http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=482

DaveDom,
There's lots of news out there that we don't get a lot of coverage on.
The new Iraqi government is almost on line and I'm sure they are aware of the G2 stations but, time will tell if this really has 4,000 troops. That nuber seems pretty high to me. Maybe 200 but, surely not 4,000.

We certainly can't walk into Syria and demand an investigation, although negociations are surley taking place. One sided, I am sure. Syria will never admit to anything and will most likely be an even greater threat to Isreal because of their support for Hammas. I don't trust the Syrian goverment. Their leader is almost as big a criminal as Saddam. Maybe not as murderous but certainly as corrupt.

My problem with all this is the inability of the neighboring countries to take responsibility for their regions. The Arab states ignored Iraq for religious reasons and China needs to step up and slap Korea's hand.
It seems Iran is now experiencing their own inner turmoil with a democratic uprising among the younger generation. Unfortunately nothing much will change before they finish developing their nuclear capabilities. They know that Iraq and Afghanistan can do nothing to counter this and are counting on the U.S. to be spread too thin militarily in other regions. That is a huge mistake on their part.

Hmm.. what was the war about? Let me create a scenario for you. You live in an appartment complex and the guy down the hall beats up his foster kids and his own kids. Do you coupe yourself up in your appartment and mind your own business or do you call your friend, a 6'5 300 pound monster to go deal with the guy? the sad part is that most people would ignore the problem and mind their own business...then they turn around and claim to be humanitarian. Bush and Blair just saved millions of people from suffering and death and we want to call them liars?