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| Posted by: Edward Teach | | OK this just makes me mad. Here we have a female sports figure playing in the finals of the French Open getting heckled and booed by the French spectators. Every bad shot she made the crowed clapped more. Every good shot they booed and heckled. Serena didn't make any political statement prior to the French Open. They disrespected her because she was American. They brought her to tears.
How dare you be so disrespectful to a wonderful person and athlete not even knowing her political views. You are not worthy to stand in her shadow.
It sure doesn't make me want to visit France and I have lost all of the little bit of respect I had for you. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: mystic | |
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Originally posted by Ron Ackerman
OK this just makes me mad. Here we have a female sports figure playing in the finals of the French Open getting heckled and booed by the French spectators. Every bad shot she made the crowed clapped more. Every good shot they booed and heckled. Serena didn't make any political statement prior to the French Open. They disrespected her because she was American. They brought her to tears.
How dare you be so disrespectful to a wonderful person and athlete not even knowing her political views. You are not worthy to stand in her shadow.
It sure doesn't make me want to visit France and I have lost all of the little bit of respect I had for you. |
I have a major problem with this!
Funny how it fits their agenda when its convenient for them. I remember getting blasted pretty heavily because of how the Dixie Chicks got booed, and how only the Americans would do something like this! Guess they were wrong!!! And the funny thing is, she never said a word to make them feel that way about her!!!
Pathetic!
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| Posted by: rowdyrjp | |
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Originally posted by Ron Ackerman
OK this just makes me mad. Here we have a female sports figure playing in the finals of the French Open getting heckled and booed by the French spectators. Every bad shot she made the crowed clapped more. Every good shot they booed and heckled. Serena didn't make any political statement prior to the French Open. They disrespected her because she was American. They brought her to tears.
How dare you be so disrespectful to a wonderful person and athlete not even knowing her political views. You are not worthy to stand in her shadow.
It sure doesn't make me want to visit France and I have lost all of the little bit of respect I had for you. |
Um ok hate start an argument here .... { not really, but is so polite to say } ... BOY ARE YOU OFF-BASE!!!
Is Andre Agassi not a red blooded American? Did the French fans at Roland Garos not support him 100% through his whole run during the Open? Could you possiblt have missed this?
The fans booed Serena for the reason they booed Martina Hingis a couple of years ago when she was the number one player and got defeated by Steffi Graf in her final appearance at French Open just before she retired.
The fans love underdogs, they love veterans near the end of thei careers. They also love to psych out front runners and see if they crack 
Martina cracked a couple of years ago... and broke down in tears.. and had to be coaxed out of locker room much later to talk to anyone, where she whined about the very nature of her sport!
Serena cracked... and broke down in tears... she had to be coaxed out of locker room much later before she would talk to anyone, where she proceeded to whine about the very nature of her sport!
Spectator sports provide venues for athletes and fans. Athletes get exposure to live audience which gives them an oppurtunity to expand their fan base and make more money through endorsements. Fans get to cheer their favourite and boo the opposition! If an athlete does not accept this they have entered the wrong profession.
Complain about nut case fanatics { like celebrity stalkers etc.}
but there will always be cheers and boos at sporting events... there is nothing political about that ...there is nothing wrong with it either... sheesh!
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | |
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Originally posted by rowdyrjp
Um ok hate start an argument here .... { not really, but is so polite to say } ... BOY ARE YOU OFF-BASE!!!
Is Andre Agassi not a red blooded American? Did the French fans at Roland Garos not support him 100% through his whole run during the Open? Could you possiblt have missed this?
The fans booed Serena for the reason they booed Martina Hingis a couple of years ago when she was the number one player and got defeated by Steffi Graf in her final appearance at French Open just before she retired.
The fans love underdogs, they love veterans near the end of thei careers. They also love to psych out front runners and see if they crack
Martina cracked a couple of years ago... and broke down in tears.. and had to be coaxed out of locker room much later to talk to anyone, where she whined about the very nature of her sport!
Serena cracked... and broke down in tears... she had to be coaxed out of locker room much later before she would talk to anyone, where she proceeded to whine about the very nature of her sport!
Spectator sports provide venues for athletes and fans. Athletes get exposure to live audience which gives them an oppurtunity to expand their fan base and make more money through endorsements. Fans get to cheer their favourite and boo the opposition! If an athlete does not accept this they have entered the wrong profession.
Complain about nut case fanatics { like celebrity stalkers etc.}
but there will always be cheers and boos at sporting events... there is nothing political about that ...there is nothing wrong with it either... sheesh! |
WRONG
I suppose the anti-Bush slurs during the match didn't exist either. This was pure "We hate Americans" conduct. To try and put a "This is normal behavior" for the French is way incorrect.
Now you might want to address the negative reaction your country had against our hockey players recently. I suppose this was normal too.
Don't try to spin this as something other than what it was. Hey it's all over the news.
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| Posted by: rowdyrjp | |
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Originally posted by Ron Ackerman
WRONG
I suppose the anti-Bush slurs during the match didn't exist either. This was pure "We hate Americans" conduct. To try and put a "This is normal behavior" for the French is way incorrect.
Now you might want to address the negative reaction your country had against our hockey players recently. I suppose this was normal too.
Don't try to spin this as something other than what it was. Hey it's all over the news. |
If that is so { and it isn't } then why cheer Andre Agassi?
Can you answer this without hiding behind American paranoia?
THEY CHEERED HIM ON.... THROUGH HIS ENTIRE RUN.
The fans like Agassi ... he is a veteran star nearing his twilight.
The fans bood Martina just like Serena. { check it out if you don't believe me.... I watched BOTH!! Though... truth be told Martina whined a lot more than Serena did }
If any anti-US slogans were used it was probably a few meatheads or maybe even just a convenient { because of current events } method of getting under her skin.
BUT please don't make this political...... How is this different than when they bood Martina Hingis?
And BTW just to stand by my convictions { from earlier threads... I am not above criticizing my own nation/people when they make mistakes! }.... the hockey boos you refer to were wrong..... they were stupid and I { along with most media in my country} thought that politics should be kept out of sporting events....... the athletes did not deserve to be bood for the war in Iraq... they had nothing to do with it!!!!
But booing in general, is not wrong... it is part of the nature of spectator sports. Boo the opposition... root for your side. Lose your freaking mind when they win!!!!!!!!!! Whine at the reffing when they lose
But come on if all that booing was anit -US slurs then Andre would not have enjoyed the overwhelming support he had..... And you would know this if you watched it!!!
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | |
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BRINGING SERENA TO TEARS
The steely-faced Serena, who has completely dominated the game over the past 16 months, lost it in front of a tough Parisian crowd.
After the match she was as emotional as I’ve ever seen her, breaking down in tears on four separate occasions in the press conference.
The French crowd was heavily in the French-speaking Henin-Hardenne’s corner, but Serena really let them get in her head.
Two controversial calls midway through the third set really set the crowd off, as the fans began to boo Serena’s errors and catcall in between her serves.
The top-seeded American really lost her way in the sixth game of the third set, when Henin-Hardenne held up her hand for time during a first serve and then Serena served into the net.
Serena thought she would get a first serve again, but the umpire didn’t see Henin-Hardenne raise her hand and Henin-Hardenne wouldn’t admit that she did.
Serena won the point, but couldn’t maintain her concentration after that and after the match accused Henin-Hardenne of “lying and fabricating” in order to win the contest. |
This accounting doesn't really tell, but Mansoor Ijaz was there and was reporting back saying that he was appalled at what he heard.
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| Posted by: rowdyrjp | |
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Originally posted by Ron Ackerman
This accounting doesn't really tell, but Mansoor Ijaz was there and was reporting back saying that he was appalled at what he heard. |
I am sure he was... don't see how being jeered is anti- US though.
What of my questions I asked you regarding Andre.
Did you watch matches?
Wasn't all of this similar to what happened to Martina?
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| Posted by: nowar | | About Serena:
she has been sheered by the french too but seems you didn't saw his interview after she won over Moresmo ?
no you don't ......
and maybe you didn't saw how she felt when she lost ?
no you don't ......
if you had saw that you would understand why she has been booed ....
when you play a sport you should be aware that you can loose and when you loose you should be able to accept that, it's called fairplay and she seems to not know what it is ......
This has nothing to do with anti-American .........
but quite easy to take one fact outside context to suit your needs .........  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | |
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Originally posted by nowar
About Serena:
she has been sheered by the french too but seems you didn't saw his interview after she won over Moresmo ?
no you don't ......
and maybe you didn't saw how she felt when she lost ?
no you don't ......
if you had saw that you would understand why she has been booed ....
when you play a sport you should be aware that you can loose and when you loose you should be able to accept that, it's called fairplay and she seems to not know what it is ......
This has nothing to do with anti-American .........
but quite easy to take one fact outside context to suit your needs ......... |
I come back to the anti-bush comments made during the match. What is your opinion on that?
Seems Serena doesn't want that kind of attention and is not making a big deal of it. She is not the one that has brought it up and since she is not making a big deal of it, it will probably be swept under the rug as the French being French. It will probably come down to whether or not she returns next year. Now it's not even a news topic.
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| Posted by: nowar | | Yes, there are some stupid guys everywhere in the world but there it was only some who acted as those asking to boycott french products - as you said, they are not the one which brought it up - in USA ....... same stupid guys ...... everywhere ....
But I didn't saw a post from you when the french spectators booed Moresmo when she lost ........ and they cheered Serena .....
and again, don't forget what she said at the interview after she won over Moresmo and what she did when she lost ....
again, take the whole picture, not only one fact | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | | No since arguing about it. I reported the incident, you don't believe it happened. If I am right, What say you? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: rowdyrjp | |
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Originally posted by Ron Ackerman
No since arguing about it. I reported the incident, you don't believe it happened. If I am right, What say you? |
Ron, Ron, Ron.... Of course IF you are right abd it all was anti- US nonsense... it was wrong and stupid.
Such idiocy would not belong at a non- political event.
But come on, why not answer my questions? I think they are reasonable.
I repeat:
Is Andre Agassi not a red blooded American? Did the French fans at Roland Garos not support him 100% through his whole run during the Open? Could you possiblt have missed this?
The fans booed Serena for the reason they booed Martina Hingis a couple of years ago when she was the number one player and got defeated by Steffi Graf in her final appearance at French Open just before she retired.
The fans love underdogs, they love veterans near the end of thei careers. They also love to psych out front runners and see if they crack .
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| Posted by: nowar | | Ron, did you read my post ?
yes there are stupid people in France as there are stupid one in USA .....
but again, is Serena been booed before that match and insulted with anti-American slogan ? no
she has been cheered as all the others .....
you should realy listen what she said after she won over Moresmo and myabe you will better understand why they booed her .....
in sport, being arrogant is quite "dangerous".
And as rowdy said, Agassi hasn't been booed but cheered even when he lost its match .......
And as I said, Moresmo has been booed too after Serena won ... why ? because she was arrogant too and she played as if she was a new player.
Now it has been Serena turn. She is so arrogant and she was near insulting Moresmo when she won. How do you think people react when someone arrogant, ready to insult the opponent loose without fair play ?
What you seems to know too is that the french supporters make no distinction between french and others players. They are ALL players. The diff ? fair play.
If you don't respect the opponent, you loose the supporters ......
Noah, Forget, Lecomte, Ingis, Becker, ....... all these suffered boos ...... nothing to do with their nationalities ....... only sport.
About the stupid guys: as I said there are few stupid guys everywhere but it was a very small minority ......... and as I said, as those stupid guys in USA asking to boycott french products ...... same stupid behaviour ......
And Ron, the quote you put about Serena crying, yes supporters was behing Justine Henin-Ardenne, but again try to find what Serena said before that match about Moresmo and Henin, you will understand why she had the supporters against her.
And just to let you know: I was for her - even if I'm beligian, so Henin and Clijster supporter/fan - till I heard what she said after the match against Moresmo - I was against Moresmo due o its arrogance - . And I can tell you that I became a very big fan of Henin and I was secretely hoping that Henin would won 6-0, 6-0 ... just to put back Serena's feet on the ground and hoping that she would learn a little bit to become more humble that she currently is.
Moresmo got her lesson, Serena too. All I hope is to see them back with more fair play and being more humble, just to offer to spectators what is supposed to be: good time and fun and fair play. | | Reply To this Message
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