Would you go to fight the war?

Post-9/11 Era Forum

Two leading House of Representatives Democrats called on Tuesday for bringing back the military draft, saying political leaders would be more wary of sending troops to Iraq if their children were going to help do the fighting.

The Bush administration quickly dismissed the idea as unnecessary and unwise, and it was expected to gain little traction in the Republican-led Congress.

Their bill would require military or national service for men and women, ages 18 to 26, without exemptions for college or graduate studies.

How does this change the prospect of going to war in Iraq for you?

not at all.. I'm not 18 - 26 heh. bastards. vote NO on the daft!

Of course, if we begin to lose such a war (Vietnam?) at a pace that surpasses the rate in which suitable draftees are produced - the draft will open to additional ages - much like it did for the Germans in World War II (old men and young boys).

Of course, this isn't a war where the US is making their last stand and has everything to lose. Or would we? The Middle East is a big place.

- k

i've never been a supporter of a government drafting people to fight a war overseas. However, if you want to claim you're a citizen of the world and a true humanitarian, you're a hypocrite not to fight a war against a guy who kills his own people and other people under his domain. As a humanitarian, you have a responsibility to safeguard people from such a tyrant. I think most people who are against this war were already opposed to Bush (remember, he only won by a small majority) and Liberal-leaning. People who oppose Bush should shut up and take a look at the polls on CNN - the president has a considerably favorable approval rating, and those opposed are in the minority. It's funny how the media slams anyone who has courage. Bush and Blair are putting their political careers on the line to save the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. If Bush is such an *******, why would he risk being the second Bush to lose a re-election? Whether you agree with the guy's foreign policy or not, you have to respect the man. We need more politicians like Bush who care more about doing what they think is right than politicians like Jean Chretien in Canada who seek a "legacy." At least we know, right or wrong, that Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair give a damn about their own people and the people of the world, because, if anything, they stand to lose a lot and gain nothing politically.

I'd never even consider fighting or dying for Haliburton.

And I'd personally encourage ALL PATRIOTIC Americans to DO THE RIGHT THING and FLEE TO CANADA if Bush calls them to arms.

I would go but, as a DAV and at my age, they won't let me. Too bad too.
When there is another 911 type attack on American soil, it might happen.
Let's hope not but, it would justify the draft as far as I'm concerned.

Originally posted by surfer_53
you're a hypocrite not to fight a war against a guy who kills his own people and other people under his domain.

They dont fight such wars because they're politically illegal or incorrect.

We need more politicians like Bush who care more about doing what they think is right than politicians like Jean Chretien in Canada who seek a "legacy."

Exactly!

Originally posted by DaveDom

Bush has surrrounded himself with the same cround that worked with Reagan. .......... They trained death-squads that equalled and surpassed the brutality of Saddam

Blood thursty mass murderers of flies and mosquitoes.

and to top that, just one example, they overthrew the DEMOCRATICALLY elected leader in Chile, a leaders that THE PEOPLE VOTED for.

'A leaders' were installed thru a KGB operation. Do me a favour, always THINK before saying something, and if you have nothing to think of, LEARN, dont use your fantasy and imagination.

It's called Democracy and it's what Bush is supposed to be fighting for in Iraq! And guess who they replaced that leader with in chili - a TYRANICAL DICTATOR called pinochet!

Tyranical dictator was not called rather named Pinochet. This man comparing to Salvadore Alyende (spelling?) was brought in by CIA. Almost all of the international and in-country conflicts around the world from 1943 (including last 2 years of WW2) to 1990 were between USA and USSR. Battle was going on every level - economically, politically, militarily (thru other countries)... You can't blame USA for defending free world from communism.

It's funny... Our soldiers are SLAMMED for fighting in Iraq... yet they volenteered for their respective places in the military. They aren't paid very well, and they aren't promised a million virgins in the after-life. What do they have to gain? Just something to think about.

My buddy Ryan joined the army and he's been sending me letters from Ft Knox Virgininia. He's in boot camp right now. He's completely aware of all the action going on across the globe, and he's also aware of how dangerous it is. If you asked him if he was republican or Liberal, he'd say liberal. He's leaving behind a son, James (2), to go train to fight for the United States of America. Even after 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, and all the developing threats in our way, he WALKED 5 miles to the nearest recruter and said "sign me up".

Some of us "get it" and some of us don't.

Bush and Blair are putting their political careers on the line to save the people of Iraq and Afghanistan.

If everything is so rosy for Bush an he has a majority, then why is his poltical career on the line. As for Blair good I hope the b*****d is kicked out ASAP it would be one of the few things he would do that would benifit the country, Blair is the Beckham of politics.

No one said everything was rosy for Bush and Blair. Where did you get that?

Originally posted by DaveDom

MrJukovette, you seem incapable of objective thought.

Same can be said about you my darling.

You actually believe we had the right to slaughter hundreds of thusands of people, bomb them, rape them, torture them to protect the free world.

Slaughter, bomb, rape, torture... LOL!

BUSINESS INTERESTS WERE PROTECTED IN S. AMERICA. Can't you actually conceed that this might have actually happened. If you can't then there is no point in discussing it.

Why should i concede on this matter if i am sure about my argument?

Pinochet was a tyranical dictator who was a friend to the US rather than his own people. He was wanted for war crimes but the UK would not give him to the Spanish. This is FACT, not fantasy. He "disapeared" thousands of people, just like Saddam. What is it you don't understand?

Under Pinochet rule, over 3,000 people disappeared or were thrown to jail - communist activists and Alyende supporters. And you know what - he did right.

What a bunch of selfish cowards.

Originally posted by DaveDom

I'm glad you think it's funny - you are a cretin.

And also it's funny how you are glad of thinking that i am a cretin.

Yet another cretinous reply.

Yet not, sir. It's just your inability to think realistic. I never knew west is full of people like you....

Cretinous, ignorant, viscious and heartless. What a scummy peace of human trash you are. +

That's what donkey usually thinks when he gets to interact with people.

Originally posted by DaveDom

With obvious sarcasm I said I'm glad you think it's funny that people are killed. PLUS - I think you are a cretin. These are two SEPERATE statments but you somehow managed to get them confused as one. Wow, your either doing it on purpose (which I suspect) or you really are stupid.

You actually analyzed my reply. Well... good job!


You're only argument is everyone that's left of centre is communist and deserve to be killed. This is not thinking realistically - this is brainwashed.

I never said lefties deserve to be killed - it's not illegal to be stupid.

americahh what part of Europe are you from