| Posted by: honorlaw | | I feel safer. I would feel much safer if Saddam and his chief Baath Party leaders were in US custody, and if the WMDs were found and destroyed, and if President Assad of Syria and the Baath Party in Syria were also removed from power. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: USA1 | | Saddams reach has been shortened. When he and OBL are dead, I'll feel better. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: GuyFromPakistan | |
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I feel safer. I would feel much safer if Saddam and his chief Baath Party leaders were in US custody, and if the WMDs were found and destroyed, and if President Assad of Syria and the Baath Party in Syria were also removed from power. |
oh...and if Iran was under US control and North Korea was not making nuclear weapons and if Hamas was a sub-division of the Ku Klux Klan. and Bin Laden was behind bars waiting for the injection. and if Inia and Pakistan weren't always threatening to nuke each other and if former Soviet renegade army officers weren't selling fission material to mysterious organizations...and if there was a way to guarentee the new Iraqi government will not go the same way Sadaam's government did and if the new government installed in Afghanistan would somehow not follow the path of the last ten regimes in the country installed by Britian or Russian or US governments...and...
I don't think the world is a better place today than it was an year ago...
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| Posted by: NothingSacred | | I feel NOTHING...Of course, if I had been stupid enough to be in the US Military, it would definately be time to take the early discharge and college money now...No reason risking death, since theres no worthwhile cause to be fighting for. | | Reply To this Message
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and if Inia and Pakistan weren't always threatening to nuke each other |
How are things going with that?
I heard that talks were supposed to take place?
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| Posted by: GuyFromPakistan | |
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How are things going with that?
I heard that talks were supposed to take place? |
Things seem to be going well on the surface. I am not optimistic. The Kashmir issue is an important vote winner on both sides and it is not likely to go away. Such initiatives have been defeated on a regular basis in the past and this one step forward two steps back trend has been an aspect for at least 47 years now.
I just finished signing a public petition for peace between the two countries but it's unlikely
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| Posted by: Dreamzwalker | | Honestly, I hope it can work out. I have a friend that is from India and his parents still live there - he visits every summer.
Kashmir is a boarder dispute correct?
I haven't truly looked into world news much with everything going on in my city locally. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: NothingSacred | | Thank's for the compliment USA1! Only an idiot would fight for George W. Bush's cause...since none of what he's doing will benefit average Americans in the long run, but it's the only thing that HIS MASTERS (Corporate America and The Zionists) will allow. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: USA1 | | GuyFromPakistan
It looks like talking and fighting don't work. What's the solution?
Sound very similar to the Isrealy Palistine issue.
So what did America do to make this problem for Pakistan and India? Just checking because America is always to blame for everyone esles problems. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: GuyFromPakistan | |
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Honestly, I hope it can work out. I have a friend that is from India and his parents still live there - he visits every summer.
Kashmir is a boarder dispute correct?
I haven't truly looked into world news much with everything going on in my city locally. |
It's more of a sovereignty dispute. It's a long story and a complicated background. I have several Indian friends myself.
You live in an interesting place alright.
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| Posted by: GuyFromPakistan | |
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GuyFromPakistan
It looks like talking and fighting don't work. What's the solution?
Sound very similar to the Isrealy Palistine issue.
So what did America do to make this problem for Pakistan and India? Just checking because America is always to blame for everyone esles problems. |
Nobody said that America is to blame for every problem on the face of the Earth. While it might make you feel more important if I said America was to blame for this problem as well(and I presume you are talking about the American government and strategists), I have to disappoint you...in this rare case the culprit is an American satellite state...namely Britian
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| Posted by: USA1 | | GuyFromPakistan
Wow! You are the first. Usually the worlds probelms are always related to America.
England has their own global agenda. Personally I feel no love loss for Britan. They hate Americans too.
They have thier own issues with Ireland that they can't seem to talk their way out of either.
War will never end for mankind. Man is a preditor, plain and simple. True peace is a pipe dream. This doesn't mean I hope for war or agree with every conflict. I just know it will never end.
The Muslims have a solution for peace it's call Islam. There will be no peace on earth until the world is Islamic. So, how do we overcome that issue? I frankly don't care to move to Islam and am a believer in one true God but, that's not enough for Islam. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Dreamzwalker | |
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You live in an interesting place alright. |
Are you speaking of in General or did you look at the links I have in my Signature?
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| Posted by: GuyFromPakistan | |
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GuyFromPakistan
Wow! You are the first. Usually the worlds probelms are always related to America.
England has their own global agenda. Personally I feel no love loss for Britan. They hate Americans too.
They have thier own issues with Ireland that they can't seem to talk their way out of either.
War will never end for mankind. Man is a preditor, plain and simple. True peace is a pipe dream. This doesn't mean I hope for war or agree with every conflict. I just know it will never end.
The Muslims have a solution for peace it's call Islam. There will be no peace on earth until the world is Islamic. So, how do we overcome that issue? I frankly don't care to move to Islam and am a believer in one true God but, that's not enough for Islam. |
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Usually is a vague term, and so is America. When you say America, are we talking about the US of A? or have you already started to count the cerntal americas and Cuba as part of USA?
Besides, when we say always, we should be ready to present credible evidence to that effect.
Besides, if a country is always blamed for world troubles, why do you think it happens? Jealousy? Because they hate you for the money you have? Or jealousy for the freedom of speech carefully directed by CNN? Or because they would just love to have the Playboy headquarters in their city and easy accessibility to the local coke dealer? Or jealousy for the incredible freedom you have as long as you don't travel out of the states and when you do, keep you american number plates hidden? Or maybe they are just jealous of USA because you have the NASDAQ and the skyrocketing shares of tech stocks make you richer every day, as long as you take the money out before the bubble bursts and only the old retired people lose out on the deal. What paranoia makes people hate USA anyways? And what paranoia makes Americans think people hate them and not their government?
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The British had their global agenda and the US of A doesn't? When do you think will the senate propose a bill abolishing the use of the term Super Power from use in senate debates? Were you aware that the Third Reich had the term Super Power in their oath of allegiance?
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| War will never end for mankind. Man is a preditor, plain and simple. True peace is a pipe dream. This doesn't mean I hope for war or agree with every conflict. I just know it will never end. |
Thanks for sharing the insightful premonitions, but tell me...how do you define peace? And how do you define war. Did the US of A win a war over there in Iraq? Is it an act of war to tip over a guy in a wheelchair? How do distinguish between a bully and a soldier? Did you know that the US of A has never attacked a country which was a match for it? or had serious destructive power? The US of A has a recorded 187 international interventions since 1947 and not one was carried out against a country with nuclear weapons.
I won't say anything about the Muslims because I am myself a Muslim. But do you have to make generalized statements?
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| Posted by: GuyFromPakistan | |
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Are you speaking of in General or did you look at the links I have in my Signature? |
Tornado Alley sounds anything but boring
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| Posted by: Dreamzwalker | |
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Besides, if a country is always blamed for world troubles, why do you think it happens? Jealousy? Because they hate you for the money you have? Or jealousy for the freedom of speech carefully directed by CNN?
Or because they would just love to have the Playboy headquarters in their city and easy accessibility to the local coke dealer? Or jealousy for the incredible freedom you have as long as you don't travel out of the states and when you do, keep you american number plates hidden?
Or maybe they are just jealous of USA because you have the NASDAQ and the skyrocketing shares of tech stocks make you richer every day, as long as you take the money out before the bubble bursts and only the old retired people lose out on the deal. What paranoia makes people hate USA anyways? And what paranoia makes Americans think people hate them and not their government?
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ummm....what money? I do not ever have any money But I'm still happy 
I have about..i'll have estimate but about 300 friends and non have stocks in that.
Playboy mansion - you have to be ASKED to enter it - you have to be rich to get to it - and I wouldn't want to visit it.
CNN - i do not watch CNN - some of those people are not the brightest crayon in the box.
I think that paranoia comes because people refer to Americans when referring to the Government - also, when you hate a Government and not the people, you attack the Government, not the people.
That's the way i would think - but you have probably read many of my posts and no i do not believe "everyone" hates us.
But I have learned, from speaking to people more and more outside America, that no-one knows us, what we are like, or how we live.
Some have said they learned from our movies, those do not really show anything - not truth anyways.
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Tornado Alley sounds anything but boring |
Thanks! 
Oh, it's not borring - and the winds get to about 250mph sometimes. Regular everyday winds are 15 - 65 mph.
Temp ranges (on a yearly basis) from -15F to 120F - this is just Tornado Alley though.
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| Posted by: USA1 | | I think GuyFromPakistan, Searchfortruth and nowar are brothers or the same poster. You guys sure have your own version fo reality. America this Amercia that.
Is this forum about Iraq or America? I'm sure if I looked, I could come up with Pakistan did this or Pakistan did that.
This forum has become a forum of America bashers and it's become pretty anoying because those doing the posting don't live here. You can bash me, Bush, the U.S. Government, America. It all comes down to the same thing. Please America, solve our problems for us while we sit back and watch and when you do we will bash you every chance we get.
Peace:
Peace is from within each of us and not a thing that can be bought or sold. I am at Peace with my religion, with death, with my country.
I have been in war, I know first hand what it's like. I have no regrets. I am proud of my country and would not live anywhere else. I have been to 12 countries and feel well rounded in that respect. I work with many people from India, Iran and Iraq.
You can bash all you want because I am secure in my beliefs based on personal experience. In tryin got understand Islam I am reading a book called "The Life of the Prophet Mohammad".
Muslims:
Isn't it true that Mulsims believe that the whole world needs to be Muslim and that anyone not adhereing to Islam is an enemy?
Isn't that what is taught in school? Can you deny that Anti-American centimate is taught in many Arabe countries including Pakistan?
Wouldn't it be better to teach anti-culture/Pro-religion instead of anti-country?
There is not a school in this country that bashes other countries in the world. We don't bash Hilter, we tell the story. We don't bash the Middle-east, we tell the story. We don't bash Russia, we tell the story although Freedom of Speech sometime allows professors to try and teach opionated views and they are reprimanded. Most American students aren't as close minded and pick up on opionated views.
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| Posted by: nowar | | USA1,
about the posters: no, we are different people, sorry but there are a lot of people which have similar thinking ......
About US:
I think that we can call the Iraq war an "internal affair" between US of A and Iraq, don't you think ?
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Did people asked for or US of A took the decision that they don't have to ask to go to help them ?
Anyway, US of A is the world police - that's how they call themselves (through the gov) - so is it the police role to help people ? but helping doesn't always mean bombing, even with smart bomb .......
And just to let you know - but you already know that - I was for the intervention in 1991, I was for the intervention in Afghanistan .... what I'm against is the way that this war has been decided: long time ago, whatever would have happened regarding 1441 ..... remember what Rumy said after the ultimatum to Saddam to leave ? even if he goes we gonna enter Iraq ........ why ? because Iraqi people can't think by themselve and organise free election ? or to have a hand on Iraq so the Mid-East so .... and so ........
Religion ? read this one http://www.inreview.com/showthread....4353&forumid=13 maybe this will disturb you to discover that US of A has it's own religious fanatics ....... sorry again
And about the history, yes you teach the history of all these countries but do you teach your own history including the bad side of it ? in Belgium we do ......... about Belgium but about the others too ...... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: GuyFromPakistan | | Dreamz:
It's not a subjective evaluation I am looking for here. About my remarks on money and nasdaq and playboy: you got the point. People are not jealous of americans, people don't hate the american public. People hate the way their lives keep getting derailed by the american government and then they resort to terror strikes. Terror tactitcs are traditionally aimed at public, the government is an indirect target. But all that's begging the question. The point is, the world understands and differentiates between the american public and the american government.
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That's a false impression. The probability is that you will not come in contact with people who don't know much about America. Most of the ones you meet or talk to, have the means know about America.
I'll give you my own example. I know it's subjective but it serves the purpose here. I have never been out of Pakistan until about an year ago when I went to Italy, and I have never been to the states. But my first job was with an Arthur Anderson affiliate in Pakistan, my second job was with a company founded by three MIT graduates who actively contributed to the Linux plateform development, and my third and Current job is with an IBM affiliate. I was taught drama at my university in Pakistan by one Mr. James Barnhill from California. My wife is Canadian and got her Phd from Stanford University. We have a house in Seattle which we decided to sell this year because even though Seattle is probably the most ethnically relaxed place there, we just don't want to live there. We chose to stay in Italy. It was a choice at the cost of a dream job in Seattle and a beautiful house.
It's not always a good idea to disregard an outsiders comments thinking that "they are so stupid they judge us from our movies." I assure you that is not the case in some instances. Who knows what you might learn if you started listening to these stupid people? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: GuyFromPakistan | |
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Originally posted by USA1
I think GuyFromPakistan, Searchfortruth and nowar are brothers or the same poster. You guys sure have your own version fo reality. America this Amercia that.
Is this forum about Iraq or America? I'm sure if I looked, I could come up with Pakistan did this or Pakistan did that.
This forum has become a forum of America bashers and it's become pretty anoying because those doing the posting don't live here. You can bash me, Bush, the U.S. Government, America. It all comes down to the same thing. Please America, solve our problems for us while we sit back and watch and when you do we will bash you every chance we get.
Peace:
Peace is from within each of us and not a thing that can be bought or sold. I am at Peace with my religion, with death, with my country.
I have been in war, I know first hand what it's like. I have no regrets. I am proud of my country and would not live anywhere else. I have been to 12 countries and feel well rounded in that respect. I work with many people from India, Iran and Iraq.
You can bash all you want because I am secure in my beliefs based on personal experience. In tryin got understand Islam I am reading a book called "The Life of the Prophet Mohammad".
Muslims:
Isn't it true that Mulsims believe that the whole world needs to be Muslim and that anyone not adhereing to Islam is an enemy?
Isn't that what is taught in school? Can you deny that Anti-American centimate is taught in many Arabe countries including Pakistan?
Wouldn't it be better to teach anti-culture/Pro-religion instead of anti-country?
There is not a school in this country that bashes other countries in the world. We don't bash Hilter, we tell the story. We don't bash the Middle-east, we tell the story. We don't bash Russia, we tell the story although Freedom of Speech sometime allows professors to try and teach opionated views and they are reprimanded. Most American students aren't as close minded and pick up on opionated views.
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In this post I will limit my response to the quesiton of religion:
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No. That's not true. Actually Muslims are taught to respect Bible and Jesus Christ. We are also taught that he was a Prophet of God just like Mohammad and therefore he should be respected.
We are taught that the world should be Muslim. Same as the Christians believe the world should be Christian. The difference between you and I is that I read and understood Bible when I was 16 years old. And you are reading, not Quran, but an interpretation of the Protagonist's life digested and regurgitated for your convenience by an interpreter and no doubt with some interpretative slants. Consequently, if you get any ideas from this book, these will not be your own ideas...these would be borrowd opinions and you are welcome to them. Muslims are allowed to marry into Christians without the need for the Christian party to convert. That says something. According to the Islamic principle of Jihad, it is due against a nation that will not allow you to be a muslim and live in peace. In other cases, it is your duty as Muslim to watch out for the religious interests for any other religious groups in your country. And you are also supposed to help a neighbouring country, even though not muslim, when it asks for your help. On this account, the actual practice differed from the taught word of God and I will admit to it. But you get fanatics in any religion. Take for example, the Spanish Inquisition...the Dark Ages of Europe, The Witch Burning, The Ethnic Cleansing in Europe, the British conquest of the world under the guise of religious enlightenment.
Do you know that the choicest places in the center of my city (Lahore) which is a megapolis with more than six million people, the choicest places are occupied by about 40 Huge churches? These churches have been there since the British left India and they have not been converted to mosques or libraries or other buildings because Islamic Law strictly forbids it. On the other hand when the British took over the subcontinent, they converted mosques into stables.
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I don't know about many Arab countries but I will tell you about Pakistan. We are not taught anything regarding politics in our schools. In pre high school we are taught about the great people in the world and I remember Abraham Lincon, Marry Cury, George Washington, Graham Bell, George Watson being on that list. In the language classes I remember Jerome k. Jerome, Mark Twain and others. And these are public schools at kindergarton level and under grade five.
At graduate level my Linguistic and literary studies included american literature with writers including Robert Frost, Hemingway, Henric Ibson...and numerous others.
I grew up reading Zane Grey, Luke Short, Louis L'Amour, A.B. Guthrie (writer of the original "The Way West"), Wister Owen(writer of "The Virginian"), Jack London (writer of "White Fang", "Call of the Wild").
I read about All-American lores such as the Gold strike on John Sutton's Mill back in 1847, The Comstock Load, The Opening of the West, The Railroads, The Cherokee Trail. I read about the American Constitution, the bill of rights, the amendments. I read about the seventies and the flower revolution, the vietnaam war, the woodstock festival...and all of this not out of a wish to gather material to be able to bash america...but because I loved the culture...out of a genuine interest in the fascinating stories of your country...
So this is my story buddy, and this is what I know about your country...and I think your government, not your people or country, sucks...
I wasn't taught this in a school...I looked at things from a neutral perspective and I drew educated conclusions.
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| Posted by: GuyFromPakistan | |
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Thanks! 
Oh, it's not borring - and the winds get to about 250mph sometimes. Regular everyday winds are 15 - 65 mph.
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I've heard about that...isn't it the place where you have the most lightening strikes per year?
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| Posted by: USA1 | | GuyFromPakistan
Sure, we are taught about bad things in our country. That is what allows for reasoning and shows you the difference between right and wrong. We are also taught morals.
I read an article the other day call "Schools of Hate". This article talked about all of the schools in Pakistan that do teach hatred for America. It claims that students from an early age come from other countries because their parents are paid to send them.
I'm not saying that all Pakistani schools are of this type. It's just that I believe they exist and these are the things that must change.
The problem we have about teaching middle-east culture is that it is hard to separate the religion form the history and we try to keep religion out of our public schools. There are too many religions here and to give each ample discussion would eat up the whole curriculum.
I am glad to see that you are well read. The one thing that bothers many Americans is that when you say things about the Government, you are talking about our people. As you know, "Of the people, By the people and For the people". Your hatred runs deep and is expressed in your postings. I particularly take offence from it
I don’t see you as the Nazi that Searchfortruth is or the propaganda touting nowar. It’s good to know you are educated but, have you ever spent time in the U.S. Do you really know our culture and life from a personal point of view?
By the way, did you know that during the Witch Burning in Salem, not a single witch was ever burned. Folk Lore. Maybe this is the same as "Schools of the Jihad" in Pakistan.
I do understand the meaning of Jihad but extremists give it a bad name like you extreme hatred for America.
Religious cleansing from the dark ages and the Spanish inquisition are old history. One would think we have evolved as a civilization to allow everyone to live in peace.
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GuyFromPakistan
Sure, we are taught about bad things in our country. That is what allows for reasoning and shows you the difference between right and wrong. We are also taught morals.
I read an article the other day call "Schools of Hate". This article talked about all of the schools in Pakistan that do teach hatred for America. It claims that students from an early age come from other countries because their parents are paid to send them.
I'm not saying that all Pakistani schools are of this type. It's just that I believe they exist and these are the things that must change.
The problem we have about teaching middle-east culture is that it is hard to separate the religion form the history and we try to keep religion out of our public schools. There are too many religions here and to give each ample discussion would eat up the whole curriculum.
I am glad to see that you are well read. The one thing that bothers many Americans is that when you say things about the Government, you are talking about our people. As you know, "Of the people, By the people and For the people". Your hatred runs deep and is expressed in your postings. I particularly take offence from it
I don’t see you as the Nazi that Searchfortruth is or the propaganda touting nowar. It’s good to know you are educated but, have you ever spent time in the U.S. Do you really know our culture and life from a personal point of view?
By the way, did you know that during the Witch Burning in Salem, not a single witch was ever burned. Folk Lore. Maybe this is the same as "Schools of the Jihad" in Pakistan.
I do understand the meaning of Jihad but extremists give it a bad name like you extreme hatred for America.
Religious cleansing from the dark ages and the Spanish inquisition are old history. One would think we have evolved as a civilization to allow everyone to live in peace.
I will continue to fight for my country and stand behind it right to the end. I’m not alone. |
About the schools of hate. I haven't seen one...there might be some extremely hidden ones but in my 29 years in Pakistan I haven't come been in personal contact with a single one. so I don't know about the references or the credibility of the Article you are citing. The name of the article itself seems sensationalist. Where was it published?
I propose that people join together and invade USA to rid it of KKK and ethnic discrimination. Also, the people of USA need to be liberated from a president that got into whitehouse on account of mistakes in the vote counting process. Democracy should be restored gradually over an indefinite period by educating the people on essential skills such as how to vote...especially in Florida. For this purpose the states should be divided into 4 groups for administrative purposes. The democrates should be banned from contesting elections in the next thirty years. The UN should place sanctions on all kinds of exports including weapons, while other exports should be on a strictly exports for food basis. The sactions should stay in effect until all weapons of mass destruction have been reported and destroyed with evidence to that effect. All religious references should be taken out of the anthem and true secular democracy should be restored. People should be helped to live in peace and harmoney with the rest of the world and the stigma of 50 years of constant efforts for a global hegemony should be washed off the great american flag. That is what the world and the american people need.
And by the way...I wasn't talking about the witch burning in Salem...I was talking about the practices in Europe. On purely religious grounds.
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Dreamz:
That's a false impression. The probability is that you will not come in contact with people who don't know much about America. Most of the ones you meet or talk to, have the means know about America.
I'll give you my own example. I know it's subjective but it serves the purpose here. I have never been out of Pakistan until about an year ago when I went to Italy, and I have never been to the states. But my first job was with an Arthur Anderson affiliate in Pakistan, my second job was with a company founded by three MIT graduates who actively contributed to the Linux plateform development, and my third and Current job is with an IBM affiliate. I was taught drama at my university in Pakistan by one Mr. James Barnhill from California. My wife is Canadian and got her Phd from Stanford University. We have a house in Seattle which we decided to sell this year because even though Seattle is probably the most ethnically relaxed place there, we just don't want to live there. We chose to stay in Italy. It was a choice at the cost of a dream job in Seattle and a beautiful house.
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Perhaps that doesn't apply to you and I wasn't reflecting on everyone - but there are some, here in this forum as well, that have asked me questions about why we don't do this or that or why we do....
Example: Someone asked me why we do not walk to the store - my closest grocery store is 4 miles away - we are really spread out. Many have a false impression that everyone lives "good" which is not true. There are homeless every where - and though organizations exist to help them - they refuse. Crime is very high and we get a long less with ourselves then with say France half the time. There has been about 8 - 9 killings in the last two weeks - Gang related they say. I know there is MUCH worse in the world but i'm just explaining (not to those who know) that it isn't this nirvana that some seem to think we live in.
They did not know much of what I told them and it was basic living in the states - what people do to live everyday here. Some watch movies to learn - but those are misleading.
People say we our against people religions, yet, we are a nation "under many gods" as each religion is in this nation, and the only religion that our nation attacks is Christian belief - time and time again the courts have thinned out what they can do and enhance other religions - so this belief that we are against other countries religions cannot be true.
Most people in the state i live in survive off 20,000 - 48,000 a year - and the homes are 80,000 and the cars are 15 - 20,000 (for one that runs). Most rent their homes because they cannot buy them due to taxes. (I'm only speaking of my state)
I can go on and on, but you already know this with your home in seattle and your wife from Canada.
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| Posted by: USA1 | | GuyFromPakistan
That doesn't sound like anywhere I'd want to live.
Have you ever been here?
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GuyFromPakistan
That doesn't sound like anywhere I'd want to live.
Have you ever been here?
If not, you should really stop watching American movies, it's FICTION. |
uh huh
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