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Posted by: Marc Flemming

North Korea has an untested ballistic missile capable of reaching the western United States, intelligence officials said Wednesday.

The North Korean missile is a three-stage version of the Taepo Dong 2, said Vice Adm. Lowell Jacoby, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

It has not been flight-tested, Jacoby said, leaving some questions about the North Korea's capability to successfully launch the missile.

CIA Director George J. Tenet, who joined Jacoby in briefing the Senate Armed Services Committee, also acknowledged the North Koreans have the capability to reach the western United States with a long-range missile.

Previous U.S. intelligence reports have said such a missile probably could carry a nuclear weapon-sized payload across the Pacific Ocean.

Meanwhile, the U.N. nuclear agency raised the stakes in the standoff with North Korea, reporting the reclusive communist government to the Security Council for violating its international obligations.

The International Atomic Energy Agency's 35-nation board of governors made the decision - a last resort after months of intransigence by Pyongyang - in an emergency session at the agency's headquarters in Vienna.

Russia and Cuba abstained from the vote, which sets the stage for possible sanctions against Pyongyang.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said he was unfamiliar with the testimony but said: "Technology and time means regimes like North Korea will increasingly have the ability to strike at the United States."

He said that is why President Bush supports building an anti-missile shield.

"We do have concerns ... about North Korea's missile development programs," Fleischer told reporters.

The revelation was certain to raise questions about Bush's priorities - and whether North Korea or Iraq pose a greater threat to the United States. Baghdad does not possess weapons that can strike America, officials have said.

"They are both important priorities," Fleischer said. "The question is, what are the means best used to deal with each priority."

He said diplomacy has failed to curb Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction program for more than a decade, thus Bush made military action a front-and-center option. "That's not the case with North Korea," Fleischer said, saying Bush believes diplomatic pressure can contain North Korea.

Tenet said North Korea probably has one or two nuclear weapons.

An unclassified U.S. intelligence estimate, released by CIA officials in December 2001, said the three-stage Taepo Dong 2 missile was probably close to being ready for flight testing.

But North Korea has held to a voluntary moratorium on flight tests of its long-range missiles, although officials in Pyongyang likely will conduct new tests.

The 2001 U.S. government report said a three-stage Taepo Dong could deliver a several-hundred-pound payload from North Korea to targets about 9,300 miles distant - sufficient to strike all of North America.

A two-stage Taepo Dong 2, which would be easier to use successfully, may be able to reach Alaska or Hawaii, it said.

In 1998, the North Koreans attempted to put a satellite into orbit with the launch of a three-stage version of the earlier model of the Taepo Dong. It failed when the third stage did not ignite.

Secretary of State Colin Powell, appearing before the House International Relations Committee, said the United States is pressing China to use its leverage with North Korea to persuade it to end its nuclear program. China is the main supplier of foreign assistance and energy aid to North Korea.

"We are doing everything we can to persuade the Chinese that the problem in North Korea is not just a problem between North and the United States. It is between North Korea and the region and North Korea and the world," he said.

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

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Originally posted by Marc Flemming
The revelation was certain to raise questions about Bush's priorities - and whether North Korea or Iraq pose a greater threat to the United States. Baghdad does not possess weapons that can strike America, officials have said.


Uhh.. neither did bin Laden who is supposedly responsible for quite some destruction on the east coast late 2001 - perhaps you heard about it? (not addressing anyone in particular )

Which should be the priority? They should be of equal priprity, damnit! What's this gnat-like attention span we've got here, can't focus on more than one thing at once? Get your multi-tasking hats on folks, c'mon!
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Posted by: Marc Flemming

The LA Times and Washington Post mention that CIA director George Tenet said during congressional testimony yesterday that North Korea has a missile capable hitting of the U.S. mainland. Most of the papers mention that U.S. intel estimates have warned about that possibility before. And the LAT quotes some experts saying Tenet was over-playing Pyongyang's capabilities. For one thing, it's not clear that the missiles can carry nukes. Also they're so inaccurate, said one analyst, "if they aimed for the United States, they might hit South America."

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

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Originally posted by Marc Flemming
And the LAT quotes some experts saying Tenet was over-playing Pyongyang's capabilities. For one thing, it's not clear that the missiles can carry nukes. Also they're so inaccurate, said one analyst, "if they aimed for the United States, they might hit South America."


Over-playing? Now they're UNDER-playing capabilities.. there's no comfort in that.

First of all, rockets and payloads are two separate things. A rocket is matched to a payload based on the workload requirements: delivering satelites into orbit, striking a target at 100 to 10,000 miles, etc. The payload can be a satelite, it can be a warhead. A warhead can contain chemical weapons, explosive ordnance, nuclear tips. As I understand it, nuclear warheads don't ave any special requirements of their delivery vehicles..

And the idea that they cannot aim/target their missles is ridiculous. Obviously they're not stupid. You don't go sticking your head into a crocodile's maw without knowing damn sure she's not going to snap. At this time there's no reason to DOUBT that they can deliver as promised, so we need to behave accordingly, damnit! And even IF they happened to launch and miss and strike South America... would that somehow be BETTER? Absurdity! How many test flights would it take for them to "accidentally" land one in our back yard? How many people in South America have to die while they figure out all their overly-complex sets of buttons, knobs and levers?

Assume their rockets can carry nukes. Assume they can be delivered. How big a fool do you have to be to antagonize an enemy whose capabilities are unknown?
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Posted by: Caps#1

At least they can't hit the east coast...lol

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

They have an untested ballistic missle that can reach the west coast... I say we put our OWN untested ABM missle launchers on the base at Kaua'i's west shore where they already have missle launch capabilities.. then with a launch detection, we can fire the interceptors from there and hit them before they're anywhere -close- to the mainland.

Actually it's not -totally- untested.. just not "fully" tested. I'd trust that more than I'd trust nothing.

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Posted by: Caps#1

If all of these losers everywhere in the world would have stopped crying, we would have had a satelitte up in space that would shoot down missles

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

Too bad Saddam wouldn't take the exile proposition that N. Korea has offered. Then we could squish two bugs under one foot.

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Posted by: Dilca

Why are you americans so afraid? your military superiority is undisputable

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

If someone shot a nuke at you - would you have any fear?
They found a NK war head in ALASKA - not sure how it arrived though.

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

Warhead in alaska? when/where? news links, please..

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

Crude....I'll try to find it again - this was over a month ago...

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Posted by: Dilca

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Originally posted by Dreamzwalker
If someone shot a nuke at you - would you have any fear?
They found a NK war head in ALASKA - not sure how it arrived though.



Yes.. IF.. nobody shot nukes yet.. if NK treathens with nuclear strike doesnt mean they will do it.. every regime just wants to survive (stay in power).. and they fear because they know USA can attack anyone they want..about fear..you were saying the same for USSR... but nothing happened.. you think just because their communists they are not people?

i guess its easier to control people if they live in fear

No hard feelings.. just my opinion
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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

They have already threatened one. The threat just isn't great enough as of yet.

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