ZIMBABWE: Million Man March (II)

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"Zimbabwe will never be a colony again." (President Robert Mugabe)

27 years after historic (1st) march at Zimbabwe Grounds (1/27/80), 1 MILLION men and women gathered at Zimbabwe Grounds to express solidarity with their leader.

Zimbabwe is 4 months away from a historic election (again) and the contestants are the same, the people "versus the British proxies (puppets).

The March is not just TO BE A PROCESSION. It is about defending values of the revolution where thousands of lives were lost against the Rhodesian settler regime .

It SHOWS the world who Zimbabwe citizens would prefer to lead their country, which will expose any manipulation of elections.


"Zimbabweans have a right to all their resources down to the ants and reptiles." (President Mugagbe)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL4xswSaWVA

So 1 million march yet the population of the country is 12 million thats hardly a ringing endorsment is it, mind you murderous dictators have nevere been big anywhere. 1 million is an interesting number though thats exactly the same number of political opponents that have gone missing in the past few years.

Zimbabwe elction and contetstents thats good you are not allowed to contest an election in Zimbabwe you get beat and go to jail hell even if you were allowed to contest you are not allowed to win.

As for Zimbabwe never being a colony again well he's right about that who in thier right mind would want a colony that has hyper inflation, a starving population, that has destroyed farmland, that has no decent health care and where the people live in fear who wants to to get near that.

Doesn't matter anyway there won't be a Zimbabwe in 30 years if things saty the same which they will.

Actually 2 years ago MAlcolm said this:I will give true history of Zimbabwe . Had to do some research. Unable to spin and create stories like Logebo. and yet we are still waiting for it I really would like to see how you view this hiostry and maybe you could elaborate and tell us about the future of Zimbabwe, it's been near 2 years after all how much research do you need.

Malcolm you should read the letters from this website, this is what life is like for real people in Zimbabwe not Mugabe or his puppets seriously if you can read this and not be shocked or not question th regime then I don't know whats wrong with you:

http://http://africantears.netfirms...ember2006.shtml

You will see the links on the side over two years worth of letters and lots of links to relevent groups.

I'm sorry Malcolm but even if I were totally anti-British, anti-Europe, anti-Commonwealth or anti-whatever I would be against Mugabe in the next election. Even if all the claims of corruption and criminal activites performed under his regieme aren't true there can be no denying the Magabe has made Zimbabwe the poorest country in the world.

As the Africa editor for The Economist for seven years, Robert Guest, says Mugabe is to blame for Zimbabwe's economic freefall. "In 1980, the average annual income in Zimbabwe was US$950, and a Zimbabwean dollar was worth more than an American one. By 2003, the average income was less than US$400, and the Zimbabwean economy was in freefall. Mugabe has ruled Zimbabwe for nearly three decades and has led it, in that time, from impressive success to the most dramatic peacetime collapse of any country since Weimar Germany

The way Mugabe treats his opposition is the way a dictator would...it's something I would expect from Hitler or Stalin.

And before you argue that this is merely propaganda I would draw your attention to an incident on March 11 2007 when the opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai was arrested and beaten following a prayer meeting in the Harare suburb of Highfields. During this arrest and assault another member of the Movement for Democratic Change was killed while other protesters were injured.

Afterwards Mugabe claimed that "Tsvangirai deserved his beating-up by police because he was not allowed to attend a banned rally" on March 30, 2007.

I'm afraid I'm in agreement with Lodge here.

And your reserach on Zimbabwe Malcolm?

What I know is irrelevent this is YOUR research that we are waiting for you know the reserach you were going get over 2 years back so where is it?

When you show us YOUR resarch I will give MY answer so put up or shut up Malcolm have you been doing research or are you just full of s***?

No you get my answer when I get your research because I am not going to debate this issue with someone who has no grasp of the subject.

Why not jujst admit Malcolm when you said you were going to research Zimbabwe it was and empty threat because you didn't really care or maybe you were going to and there was something better on TV or maybe you saw another pointless cause. Thats why you are full of it because you make all these promises and never see it through get educated, get a grasp of the subject and then you will get your answer until then no dice.

I will give true history of Zimbabwe . Had to do some research. Unable to spin and create stories like Logebo.

May 20th 2006 you posted that Malcolm so thats around 21 months you have had to do it. Of course I read the other posts and judging by what I read you still think Zimbabwe is not independent.

I am glad it's only the two of us because you are embarresing yourself. You obviously have no idea waht you are talking about.
I bet you couldn't name the capital of Zimbabwe or past leaders or the year it got independent or it's former name without looking it up and you are the one that has apparently been doing this research. You should have got a corpse to do your research Malcolm it would have got more done.

Malcolm Malcolm Malcolm I knew you were guallable I knew you were easily led but this is a new low even by your pathetic standards

MDC is of course the movement for democratic change it is of course Mr Tsvangirai's party in Zimbabwe a party that wants to remove a murderous dictator and gvive the peopel of Zimbabwe a better life.

Now I kow you belive the Mugabe propaganda that we in the UK fund this party but Mugabe like yourself is an ignorant so and so. You see a few years back Mugabe backed a Zimbabwe law it was called the political finances act, this Mugabe backed act made it illegal for any foreign groups to invest in political parties ( most countries have a law like this) now if the MDC was as you and Mugabe claim being funded by the UK why has he not shut them down after all tahst what he wants in the long run and he could have done this with the full backing of the law.

All this proves what I thought all along you nevere really did any reserach on Zimbabwe did you? because if you did the PF act is basic stuff. Hers what you did you checked a few Mugabe soundbites and articles and ddecided you liked him end of story. Wo If Mugabe is your hero who else do you like Hitler, Sadamm, Stalin very much in the same mould as Mugabe asfter all.

[QUOTE]lodgebo01 said this in post #24 :
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MDC is of course the movement for democratic change it is of course Mr Tsvangirai's party in Zimbabwe a party that wants to remove a murderous dictator and gvive the peopel of Zimbabwe a better life.

The MDC is not the promblem in Zimbabwe but I want to give a better perspective on the (British funded) opposition party in Zimbabwe.

Popular British journalist Peter Thorncroft on MDC ( one of many):

" I wasn't there in 2000 and I just accepted that the MDC had been cheated in elections and that this was a party that had a majority of support in the country (Zimbabwe). It was only long afterwards that I discovered that in fact OF COURSE Zanu- PF ( Zimbabwe African National Unity- Popular Front) had ENORMOUS support of the country.

I first saw that demonstrated to me in the March elections in 2005. I then saw it again demonstrated in the Budiriro by-election when 4,000 continued to vote for ( Pres. Mugabe's party) Zanu- PF and it was quite a peaceful election.

When the MDC started in 2000, what a pity tha they were addressing people in Sandton mostly white people in Sandton north of Johannesburg instead of being in Dar es Salaam or Ghana or Abuja. They failed to make contact with Africa for so long, THEY WERE IN LONDON, we've just seen it again , Morgan Tsvangirai's just been in America.

Why ism't he in Cairo? Maybe he needs FINANCIAL SUPPORT and he can't get it outside of America and the same would go for Mutambara. They have not done enough in Africa."

And this: " Where are they (MDC) in Mashonaland West, Central- the three Mashonaland provinces? I was just there a few weeks ago, ... I was a journalist and I was able to speak to people and they were very open and chatty with me. I mean the MDC just hasn't tried visit these places. I mean the MDC just hasn't tried to go to any of theses places. And will they ever or they going to remain an urban party in Harare..."

Thats nothing in fac t thats less than nothing. Lets see what was written the UK and US have imposed sanctions yeah that very true but so have the EU, Canada and pretty much the rest of the western world and some African countries to so we can alreadys ee the agenda of press TV ( no respected outlets carrying this story Maclolm?). The ruling party will respect the elction result well duh of course they will bnecquse the elction is rigged they have already won or didn't you figure that out. People will burn if Zimbabwe burns well they can't afford a proper fire service so yeah that would be right but burning is quicker than being tortured or starved to death I guess. and this idea of having $ or £ in thier pockets it's like anything else in Zimbabwe all hersay without any evidence as per ususal. As for the letter so what Gordon Brown brlives in demoracy and he would like to see it in Zimbabwe who wouldn't anything is better than tyranny is it not.

NOW MALCOLM YOU RESEARCH ON ZIMBABWE PLEASE

No what I am saying is the story talks about sanctions but we already knew that, it talks about the ruling party winning the election but we all know thats going to happen it talks about Gordon Brown pushing for democracy again we all ready knew taht because these things have been reported in mainstream media for months. In short it's old news that press TV is trying to make into todays news.

What I am also saying is that whole burning with dollars or pounds is nothing that is eveindece of what exactly?, when you read it sounds like the ramblings of a mad man and press TV cannot publsih what they and you think it menas because it's not true and they risk being sued and getting in thier knuckles rapped for false information etc etc because they are lacking that thing you are always lacking in your ramblings - good evidence.

Now Malcolm your research on Zimbabwe where is it.

If you don't understand the way elections and laws work in Zimbabwe then how can you possibly debate the issue?


To respond to your corrections

1. not just the US and UK but practically all of the western world have sanctioned Zimbabwe and some African coountries have alos cut ties with Zimbabwe. Mujgabe has had a Europe and American travel ban impose on him meaning he can only enter America for UN meeting and the EU for the African summits, in obtaing a travel ban he joins a special group made up of other dictators, paedophiles and rapists, terrorists and general thugs. So when you see that all these countries are taking the same stance aginst this prick it kidnoif blows your imperalistic arguemnt out the water. It's kind of funny when you blame the UK for Zimbabwes isuues you sound like a mini Mugabe your parents will be so proud .

2. Maclolm are you thick or do you not know what is going on over there? Mugabes party will win by a landslide they always do even though the majority vote for the opposition.

3. Malcolm wether you like it or not Zimbabwe does need democratic change look at the mess this dictator has got the country in. Oh and there is no evidence of a coup again you are acting and speaking like a mini Mugabe

4. again you and this sorry excuse of a news source has no evidence of a coup.

Now can we see your research on Zimbabwe Malcolm?

[QUOTE]lodgebo01 said this in post #32 :
[B]If you don't understand the way elections and laws work in Zimbabwe then how can you possibly debate the issue?


I thought we were correcting your interpretation of "Britain coup" link? I see now you change the subject to Zimbabwe law.

Since you claim to be a scholar of Zimbabwe law. You should know these:

Constitutional Amendment 17 - it effectively nationalized all land

Gazetted Land (Consequential Provisions) Act - legally served White farmers with eviction notices ( called eminent domain in U.S.) It gave farmers 90 - day grace period to follow Zimbabwe law and to vacate the property.


Farmers who won't break Act are given a 2- year jail term or fined or both if found guilty.

Once again Malcolm your research on Zimbabwe where is it?

WHITE TIGER do you know any history of UK/Zimbabwe?



To understand the current hostility the UK/US have toward Zimbabwe, one must look at the U.S. instigated Ethiopiapian invasion of Somalia- an invasion wasn't condemn by the global African community.
This lack of widespread comdemnation has EMBOLDENED the UK and U.S. in their aggression toward President Mugagbe and current government ( ZANU-PF).

The US/UK took advantage of on the anti- Islamic feelings of many Africans to invade Somalia removing the Islamic based government.

Many Africans did not see the BIGGER ISSUE of an illegal U.S./Ethiopian invasion of Somalia.

The UK/U.S. now feel it has the green light to invade other African nations without facing much resistence.

Slight edit inflation in Zimbabwe is 100,000% not 1 million

Yeah the million man march was indeed in suppoprt of Mugabe but bringing in the humna rights abuses etc etc is the other side of the same story it is all releated all the carp you just posted has absolutly nowt to do with Mugabe or Zimbabwe for that matter.

And how have I been trained to smear facts and propoganda you want to elaborate on that?

You don't talk some bollocks at times you know that.

Firstly the UK won't take an invasion off the table because an invasion has never been ON the table. If you know different lets see the evidence show us facts where Gordon Brown or any COBRA member said that they were considering military action in Zimbabwe. Plus you show your ignorance of UK politcs we only have 1 PM and unlike the US they can serve as long as they want providing they win an epection every four years sothey don't serve an office term.

Secondlt you are right it makes no sense because it's not going to happen again Malcolm you have facts that an invasion has been planned.

Yeah african lives are expendable Mugabe has proved that 1 million times

So you admit you are talking bollocks you admit that you know nothing and have no evidnece about any planned invasion.

Your right I am not in the service anymore Malcolm but I know what it would take for an invasion like that. firstly you need troops and we don't have enough we are busy in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Balkans, we have troops protecting British interests i.e Falklands and Gibralter, we have troops that are attached to the NATO RRU and of course we need a set number in the UK to protect us in case of an problems all these things also apply to heavy artillery, planes and of course being an island boats and subs ( for example there is always 1 nuclear capable submarine kept back at base but ready to go if needed).
So you see Malcolm we don't have the troop numbers to invade anywhere else do we the same with the money issue we are ghardly going to risk our economic stability on a zero sum invasion are we. Also the other thing all our equipment is designed and painted for desert warfare none of that is being changed back to the green and black and possible grey you would need for an invasion of Zimbabwe.

Plus should things go ok ( which they probably won't ) your hero Mugabe will be gone and we can all go back to being good friends with Zimbabwe.

Think For Self

Why (now) does Britain want a new gov in Zimbabwe?


1) " Despite their pious claims, Britain and the others
are not angry because (Cde) Mugagbe is a corrupt dictator
They sponser corrupt dictators when it suits them.
They don't care about ordinary Zimbabweans
They were quite happy to herd
them into RESERVES when it suited them. What they care
about is the EXPROPRIATION OF WHITE FARMERS. ( This is
Lodgebo and White Tiger avoid question above?)

2) Complicit in provoking this confrontation, the mainstream,
White-owned MEDIA does not give the CIRCUMSTANCES
surrounding the confrontation. Instead they continue there
DEMONIZING CAMPAIGN against the President of Zimbabwe
that intensified when he RECLAIM land from the White
minority elite settlers and returned the land to Africans.

3) The UK and ALLIES have done all in their power to ensure
Zimbabwe's economy is ruined to create hardship on innocent
Zimbabwean's in hope to force a rebellion to OVERTHROW the
elected govin Zimbabwe.

4) Their aim is to have President Mugagbe's gov to COLLAPSE to
serve as a deterrent to other African nations that want to
RECLAIMED land that was seized during colonial rule.

Only guilt admitted accepts truth - Malcolm X

www.africaspeaks.com/articles/2007/1503.html

See theres that "we" word again, amazing in a few hours he has gone from an African American who thinks the world owes him to a Zimbabwean Mugabe supporter.

Ok so what is the West issue over Zimbabwe? Well firstly those two words - the West is important, you see people like Malcolm and the other brainwashed fools believe Mugabe when he says it's all down to the US and the UK trying to weaken Zimbabwe but it's not 2 countries far from it you have every EU and European country condeming Zimbabwe so thats 39 countries add the US, Canada and Japan thats 42 countries that have opnely condemeed the actions of Mugabe thats 47 leaders (if you count elections changes of governemnt etc etc) all these countries have applied unilateral and multilateral travel and movement bans on Mugabe.

Then you have people like Archbishop Desmon Tutu hardly a tool of the West and he has condemmed Mugabes actions, as have AMnesty international, Ocfam, the UN and the the Red cross. Then there was Nelson Manbdela and his thinly veiled attack on African tyrants no prizes for guessing who he meant if you listend to that speech and that was 8 years ago long before the west knew the full extent of Zimbabwes troubles.

See Malcolm I put this down because I ask you as a Mugabe supporter do you honestly belive that all these countries all these people and all these groups are wrong and that Mugabe is right? Or do you believe thay are all tools of the UK and US?

ooopps forgot to answer my own question

Right what does the West ( not the UK) want with a new governemnt in Zimbabwe.

Well you could say that they belive that 1 million people who have vansihed is enough, or that human rights abuses have gone on to long, or that freedom of speech being outlawed is wrong, or that getting a smack in the miouth for slamming your corrupt gvernment is wrong, or that keeping a man in power who has gone to the brink of war with Congo on 4 occasions is wrong.

Or it could be this fact and I am willing to bet that this is the fact that never entered your thick head - 4 years ago Zimbabweans voted for a new leader and that was denied to them, in the past few days Zimbabweans again overwhelmingly voted for a new leader they have got the new government but a big question mark hangs over the new president. Maybe just maybe thats what the West wants it wants Zimbabweans to get what they voted for.

Now the white farmers well I didn't want to bring it up but as you have ok I can tear this theory apart as well I guess.

Firstly what Mugabe did was actually against Zimbabwe law also the fact that he was a disputed leader brings into question wether he should have done it. However if he had changed the law and actually legally won an election he can do what the hell he wants. Also wether you like it or not those Whites were also Zimbabweans not Briths or European but Zimbabwean they were born there just like you are an American.

Anyway Malcolm you should look at what Mugabes actions resulted in. See Zimbabwe had always been called Africa's bread basket there was always an abundace of food for the people and who was it that was growing this food? it was the white farmers. Now then Mugabe booted them off and replaced them with black "farmers" and I use that term loosely because these numpties couln't grow thier nails never mind crops. You see there is a direct link between the white farmers losing thier farms and Zimbabweans starving to death and when they got hungry they complained and when they complained Mugabe banned free press and silenced a few of them ( 1 million to be exact) thats when he realised he cocked u and brought up the war vets to batter a few more into submission and blames us for his crappy leadership and thats when the world took notice and sanctioned him. See his masterplan was bollocks really.

Anyway Malcolm in your closed mind you don't get the land retaking so let me break it down and turn it into your favourite issue a black one.

Lets say that in the central belt of Scotland there is a 2nd generation black farmer his produce is great he makes a nice profit, he employs a few white Scots to help on the land etc etc. Then one day Scotland has an economic slowdown millions of Scots lose thier jobs and the Scottish governemnt decide that because Scotland is white dominated this black Scot must lose his farm to a white Scot even though the white guy cannot farm to save himself the whte guy ruins his farm ( this is after he raped the black guys wife and daughters) and the black guy has nowhere to go and is ruined - Is that fair on the black farmer yes or no?

Lodge are you through venting? can you answer A question for us?


Was Zimbabwe a colony of Britain?

God you really do know nothing about Zimbabwe do you? the only thing worse than a fool is a fool who thinks he's an expert.

To answer your question Malcolm No Zimbabwe was never a UK colony Rhodesia was but not Zimbabwe. As you will no doubt know as coloniel rule ended throughout Africa Ian Smith made a unilateral declaration of independence and althought the the UK declared this an act of rebellion they never made any attempt to retake the country, all of that happend in 1965 and 5 years later the country declared itself a republic although South Africa was the only country to recognise it. after the civil war in Zimbabwe under it's the Prime Minister C. Banana ( no really Banana lol) declared the new country Zimbabwe was born and declared it's independence in 1980.

Now that brief overview is important and it blows a hole in Mugabes idea that we are out to get him. See if we could legally invade in the 60's and take Rhodesia back and we never why would we want it now. Rhodesia was a rich and prosperous country in the 60's it was Africa's bread basket now it's a s**thole why would we want it now.


Also a funny little thing about Zimbabwe the countrys motto is - unity, freedom and work. Funny because the country has no unity the majority want the leader outn but we know he won't go. Freedom they have no freedom you are not allowed to be to loud in condemnation of Mugabe and when the war vets are brought out in the next few weeks the freedom to vote freely will be gone and work well thats a laugh he has ruined the country and very few people do work.

Stay Focus

The problem in Zimbabwe is not President Mugabe, elections or the economy. This is what PROPAGANDIST and the COOPERATE media wants us to believe to keep us SEEING the situation for ourselves.

The conflict in Zimbabwe is over LAND. Brits and descendants of Britain make up 1% of Zimbabwe population but own more than 70% of the ARABLE (most fertile) LAND that the original British settlers took by force (140,000 Africans were killed).

Isn't this common sense? What country would let another control 70% of there best (or worst) part of there land?

Africa understands the Zimbabwean game being played by the UK ( and its allies) This is why President Mugabe is seen as a hero.

When the EU tried to stop President Mugabe from attending the " Lisbon cafe"(yearly summit between EU and African countries) , African leaders said to hell with the summit.

At the 10th anniversary of South African independence. President Mugabe received a "deafening applause." ( Economist)

Despite the poor economy the literacy level in Zimbabwe is the highest in Africa: 85%!


If you were President and another coutry took 70% of your most ARABLE LAND ( without restituiton) wjat would you do?




"The goat is always guilty when the leopard is the judge" - African proverb

"Do not accept any situation, question, argue and explore" - Confucius

Malcolm, in response to your question earlier about the SADC. The SADC is run, organised and funded by its 15 member (its founding members Angola, Botswana, Lesotho, Malawi, Mozambique, Swaziland, Tanzania, Zimbabwe and Zambia and its later members Namibia, South Africa, Mauritius, Democratic Republic of Congo, Madagascar and Seychelles). It has no links what so ever to the UN, UK, US or EU.

And actually people in Africa see Mugabe as a hero because he is one of the last freedom fighters alive in the whole of Africa. He is associated in the struggle of the African people of any country against their colonial overlords and is thus revered for that.

As a leader of a country he has proved himself to be less than adequet. All you need to do is look at the state of Zimbabwe to know this. The worst economy in the world, one of the worst health systems in the world and one of the worst agricultural systems in Africa in a country that is one of that continents most fertile.

What is more is that Mugabe and his regieme have been accused of racism, attempted genocide, violation of many Human rights and dictatorship by many different countries, not only the UK, US and EU.

What I find rather laughable is that Mugabe has knowingly and willingly destroyed the economy. Zimbabwe main form of currency earning things are mineral exports, agriculture and tourism. Mineral Exports dont occur that often as Mugabe and his Regieme have few friends outside Zimbabwe and Southern Africa. Tourism doesn't happen because Mugabe doesn't like people coming into Zimbabwe. And agriculture was messed up by his removal of well trained and expeiranced farmers who knew how to make the most out of their land and replacing them with people who have no idea how to do so.

Again whether or not these White Farmer that he removed were descended from British settlers doens't really matter. They were born and raised and lived and worked in Zimbabwe, they were Zimbabweans with just as much right to own land and farms as anyone else. Why did they still have these farms so long after Britain pulled out? Well simply because they were good at farming and had made a profit out of those farms that they had.

The whole removal of white farmer and installation of black farmers was actually a last ditch attempt to made the black majority of Zimbabwe's population support Mugabe and his reigeme in the elcetions a few years ago when the majority of them were starting to support the opposition. It worked.

This time Mugabe has attempted to bring in a law that will remove any and all white business owners and install black ones in their place in an attempt to gain the majority of public support...it hasn't worked as well and the elections were very close.

Since Mugabe and his government have refused to reveal the exact results of the election and are calling for another one it can, and probably will be, assumed that the election was not in Mugabe's favor. Add to this the seeming installation of martial law by the Zimbabwean police you can expect even more criticism and accusations to be leveled at Mugabe and his regieme in the next few weeks.

I am not going boither answering wht Malcolm wrote earlier because White Tiger has provided a better answer than I could. I do have a question for Malcom though - What do you think the impact of Karma's election win in Botswana will be on Zimbabwe situation and Africa as a whole? Do you think he is a breath of fresh air or a danger to the continent?

[QUOTE]malcolm xx said this in post #62 :
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Ok we are going to have to break this down because once again you are all over the shop on different parts of this story:

A major newspaper writes article on " Invading Zimbabwe". How could you not know?

I know the REAL story not your and Mugabes version of it.


The Herald: Well I wouldn't call the herald a major newspapaer wouldn't even call it a paper but I suppose when it suits your argument malcolm it a major paper when it doesn't it's a right wing racist rag .


Reports that former Brtish prime minister Tony Blair contemplated INVADING Zimbabwe and that the THE PLAN IS STILL ON THE TABLE.

See that's where it's wrong Lord Guthrie advised against invasion and therefopre the plan is off the table and it was only on the table because of the trouble that was being caused by Zimbabweans refugess crossing the border and
Mugabe war vets going after them.

In fact when Tony Blair went to south Africa in the last few weeks of his premiership he promised the South African government that the UK had no intention of military action in any part of Africa. I also ask again Malcolm where are we getting these troops for an invasion you have sidestepped that issue already.

Why would Britain want to attack Zimbabwe, its FORMER COLONY?

It's also a hole in the ground that is of no value to anybody anymore

What is wrong with the British? So by disposseessing a mere 4,000 white farmers who OWNED and CONTROLLED vast swathes of our LAND giving it back to the people is justification to in vade Zimbabwe?

Theres no invasion and like I said what happens to white Zimbabweans is not our concern.
Look at this way Malcom. Mugabes stock could not be any lower with the younger African leaders and the people of Zimbabwe if we wanted to invade would this not be the ideal moment under the pretence of say peacekepping but we havent have we because we don't want to inherit a s**thole even though when Mugabe dies which honestly I am hoping is real soon we and ther rest of the wetsern world will have to give millions to bail the country out, funny how the colony arguemnt won't come up then will it.

Do Blair and Brown know who owns Zimbabwe? Who are the INDIGENOUS PEOPLE of zimbabwe? Are they of British blood?

We all know who owns Zimbabwe Robert Mugabe he owns the police, the army the judicial system the media and the economy.

Zimbabwe cannot be a present-day Australia where the INDIGENOUS ( Alborigines) land was taken by Brtish criminals. The same in New Zealand where the NATIVES ( Maoris) land was took by the same criminals.

Actually do some homework relations with the Maoris has been historically good the aborignies history was abbhorent and inroads have been made to right those wrongs but it is classed as an Austarlian problem nowdays as both the Native aboriginies and the Autrlians try to live in harmony, there a lesson for Mugabe in that don't you think.

Today, not many speak of these INJUSTICES. No one TODAY is helping OPPRESSED people, to REPOSSESS their land. ....

These injutsices are being rectified all around the world you just don't want to see it happening.

See Malcolm you are so blinded by hate and so backing the wrong horse that all you see is some white farmers who lost some land newsflash about that WHO CARES ABOUT THEM I don't give a monkeys
I care about rigged elections,
I care about people starving to death,
I care about people being denied demoicratic process,
I care about 1 million " missing" people,
I care about the strain that 2 million refugess are causing S. Africa,
I care about 3000 deaths a day,
I care about the deaths being avoidable but medic aid is banned,
I care about people not seeing thier 35th birthday,
I care about mass child deaths,
I care about why a man would want to stop the media recording what happens in his country

Now I ask you why do you NOT CARE


Your just like Mugabe you are so desperate to get one over the white man and to hell with the consquences and that my friend is very very disturbing.

White Tiger you fool us. You told us not to comapre you wity lodgebo?

Seems like the US is about to flex some diplomatic and no doubt economic muscle in Africa in the coming days. It appears that top US delegates in Africa will be pressurising Southern African countries ( mainly Angola) to refuse docking rights to a Chinese cargo ship full of weapons for Zimbabwe it also understood that they will encourage more African leaders to condem Mugabe, this is in realtion to S. Africas slight change on the situation and the new approach take by Karma in Botswana.

I really hope that those guns don't make it to Zimbabwe because we all can all pretty much guarntee that those guns will be turned on MDC supporters faster than you can say rigged election.