Mirror On America: 6 Whites Tortured Black Women in West Virginia

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Logan County Sheriff Eddie Hunter giving details to The
Charleston Gazette:

"Something like this is so horrifying, it makes you want to puke They got this girl out of Charleston and took her to Big Creek (west virginia) , threw her in a shack ( were she was forced to live), RAPED and STABBED HER, PUT A ROPE AROUND HER NECK, MADE TO EAT ANIMAL FECES and did other horrifying things to HER ( lick up blood from the floor, drink water out of a toilet )."

" I mean, I've been in law enforcement for over 30 years, and THIS IS THE MOST HORRENDOUS THING THAT I'VE EVER SEEN or EVER ENCOUNTERED."


And these people are not going to be charged ? Where is the outrage that was given to Vick? or other Black entertainers/

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296502,00.html

well they're being charged, but not with hate crime.

hopefully they'll have an "accident"

Of course they were charged.

Was this a racially motivated crime?

Either way, it's horrible.

-HECK!

Most likely racially motivated which is sad like I said in the Jena case I would have hoped that in the 21st century we would have gotten past this racist crap.

But Malcolm I don't think you have read the story, the case will not be treated as racist because the kidnapping charges carry the heavier sentence so you have a choice goe for racist charges and get a few years or go for the kidnapping and they potentially could get life in jail these people deserve the harshest possible sentence so you go for kidnapping.

I did not read the sherriff's report. My first thought is it's probably racially motivated though. I don't see how this case is a mirror on America, however.

-HECK!

How can anyone deny this not a hate crime? Unlike the Duke Rape Case there is much evidence that cannot be COVERED UP by lawyers. WHERE IS THE(conservative) MEDIA !

How can anyone read the FACTS of this case and not see this was racially motivated?

6 white people kidnapped, raped and tortued a Black female. An anonymous tip brought Logan County Sheriff to a mobile home. The Black female victim staggered of the home asking the deputies for help. She was badly injured, with her eyes black and blue from brusing.

According to POLICE RECORDS FILED :

- repeatedly stabbed in the left leg
- sexually abused ( by several people)
- the Black female was called "ni*ger* many times
- made to eat rat and dog feces
- lick up blood from the floor
- drink water out of a toilet by her captors ( 6 Whites)
- hot water was poured on Black victim
- choked with a cable cord
- forced to live in a shed during her weeklong captivity, and
threatened with death if tried to leave



"this is probably the most horrendous thing I've seen in my life" Logan County Sheriff Eddie Hunter

This is a hate crime but I can see where Heck and some other people especially in law enforcement and criminal justice have a problem.
The case that is currently ongoing in the Sates is a good example, in I think West Virginia as well 13 yeard old white guy walking home doing nothing no affiliation to any group is attacked by four blacks who gave him a damn good beating, the incident is on tape and everything. Now in this case the media, the family, some cops and even some civil rights campaigners (Al Sharpton has offered support to the boy and his family) have said this issue is racially motivated but the police that are investigating are not so sure and are only looking into wether it's racial because of the hassle they have got from the family.

Now this case is relevent because here we are back in Virginia woith what is seemingly another racial attack but yet again the cops don't want to see it that way, what a bunch of incompotent a$$holes how blind are they that 2 racists attacks happen and they don't do anything, this state has the worse cops in America right? wrong they are actually very smart cops that want the perpatrators to serve the harshest possible sentences. You see what Malcolm and the family of this boy negelect to mention is that to succesfully get a result in a race case you have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that these incidents would never have occured if the victim had been of a diffrent race and that can be very difficult, but to prove somebody was kidnapped, tortured, raped etc etc is easier and rightly or wronlgy carries a heavier sentence than a race attack and to prove ( esp when it's on tape) that somebody is the victim of ABH or GBH is easier to prove and again rightly or wrongly carries a heavier sentence than a race attack.

The thing to rembere is that just because a black person is attacked by whites and vice versa it does not always make it a race issue and sometimes it's better to ignore public opinion and do the right thing which is to put these people away for a long time.

And don't even bring up the Duke case. That was a witch hunt and anyone of reasonable intelligence can see it. The girl was a liar. The DA has been disbarred and may go to jail. Those are the facts.

-HECK!

I'm confused. Is there proof it was a hate crime, other than the fact she was black and they were white? A hate crime has to be racially motivated, couldn't they (maybe even honestly?) plead that they picked the woman for reasons other than race?

Again, I'm basing this view off not knowing of any other proof it was a hate crime, but assuming it was because the defendants were white and the victim was black seems like a form of racism all its own.

Lastly, to the comment:

'WHERE IS THE(conservative) MEDIA !"

This is a report from foxnews.com. I'm not going on my own little "burn fox news!" rant, but I can't imagine what more you had in mind.

Good point mate. You should also be aware that when it comes to Malcolm EVERYTHING is about race even when it's not.

Like I said Malcolm I think it's a hate crime but I am not trying to spin anything the fact is (and even you have to accept it) that not all white on black incidents are hate crimes.

What about the 4 blacks that attacked the boy in Virginia was that a hate crime or they just a$$holes?

it is obvious this is a hate crime.

But the punishment for kidnapping and raping are harsher than the punishment for hate crime, and that is what they are charging them with.

Point is: they deserve to go away for a long, long time, and, if justice is served they will.

I don't care if they call it "hate crime" or not. As long as justice is served.

Isn't any crime a 'hate crime'.

If someone does something that's motivated by race it somehow deserves a harsher punishment? These people should be locked up for good, either way.

-HECK!

For the record, a hate crime isn't a charge unto itself. It's usually added to an existing charge. Like, if one person is murdered for money, the charged might get 20-life (25 in some states). But if someone is killed for race, the suspect would then get 25/30 to life. It usually just adds a few years.

Hate crimes are a very interesting section of our law. Most of the time, the circumstances of motive can help the defendant (the cliche but accurate "A man walking in on his wife sleeping with another man, kills the man is not as bad as a man killing for no reason"), but in the case of hate crimes, it amplifies the defendant's time. The reason (given, not necessarily the true reason) is that hate crimes contribute to a worse overall society than an average murder.

I guess, though, that if a family member of mine was raped or killed because of the color of their skin, I would want whoever did it in jail as long as possible.

Also:

Was the attack on Reginald Denny a racial crime?

Were they convicted? Ummm...no. Why? It was on tape? So why were they not convicted? Because Los Angeles was afraid of another riot.

Why is the kid that got beaten in Jena not going to get justice? Because Al Sharpton believes that the kids that beat the crap out of him were justified in doing so, even though this kid had nothing to do with it....so this means that town is afraid of a riot.

Why is it only racial one way, but the other way is ignored?

Why is that Malcolm?? Why do you ignore those when your race is on the other end? Is that racist to you as well, or do you look at those as justice?

Just curious.

Again, please note that I think all crimes like these are sick, regardless of what color the person is doing the crime.

On a less negative note, I'll just say that despite the reasoning I have the utmost sympathy for this poor woman. I know that sometimes it's hard to remember the victim when attacking the offenders, and I need to keep this in mind in the future.

Are you calling me a racist for feeling sympathy for this woman? I said sympathy, not pity. And frankly, pity would be just as appropriate. She was tortured for God's sake, I can't imagine the horrors she went through but I'm damn sure I feel horrible for her sake.

"there is no way in hell that the officers in the 15 year old boot camp beating are going to get off." mystic ( post #22)

was race a factor the descion of the ALL WHITE jury?

Try and keep it on topic Malcolm there is already a thread about this outrage.

Malcom:

Was this a hate crime??

Are you angered over this? Three black males shot a 12 year old white girl staying home with strep throat? Does this make you just as mad as the girl raped by the white guys?

Just curious.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1856076/

You know Malcolm you are very good at avoiding the tough questions that will have an effect on your viewpoint ( have you considered a job as a politician or used car salesman?). The thing is here you are talking about a hate crime but when Mystivc and other give examples of other hate crimes where blacks are the perpetrators as opposed to victims you avoid talking about those cases because you know it blows a massive hole in your mirror on America idea.

I have said it before and I will say it again if you really cared about racism you would be concerned about all racist incidents not just those where blacks are the victims.

I couldn't find the signed testimony or the attorney's statements in the original link, is there another page with that info malcom?

Malcolm,

You have replied to my one statement 3 times. Now tell me, what in the hell do any of those replies have to do with the simple fact I stated?

You DO know that the defense has just as many chances to accept or reject a juror....don't you?

And as far as my other comment about the the black guys murdering the little white girl....Lodgebo was right...you skirted that fact so bad! So bad, in fact, it actually makes you look like a racist, not anyone else.

I've been saying this from day one with you. Pick your arguments. Ever hear of Peter and the Wolf? You scream race any and every chance you get. The problem is that when you actually do have a point, you've ruined it because you have made so many bad arguments and people just don't want to come running.

Sometimes less is more.

Think about it.

Pretty open and shut case, I'll be they'll plead out to a lesser charge. I've also been reviewing the links and Malcolm's right about one thing, I believe the D.A. can charge them with the hate crime additives as well. Originally I had to ask "Would they do this if she was white?" in which case the answer is no, but the bigger question is "Did they do this because she was black?" and I wasn't sure. It's easy to assume they did but, again, after looking around a bit there's about an 80% chance they did.

Megan Williams recovering; community demonstrates support for family despite local opposition

Less than 1 month ago, Megan Williams was shown to world as a victim of a brutal race torture in West Virginia.

Looking renewed and strengthning she and hundreds of supportes participated in a protest rally and march through strees of Charleston,WV.

Megan Williams attorney has continuously press for hate crime charges to be filed against the six defendents charged with brutal crimes and according to their written statements, used racial ephihets (repeatedly) during her days of assault and captivity in their trailer home.

Despite evidence, Logan County Prosecutor Brian Abraham has declined not to pursue hate crime charges.

" If this is not a hate crime, then there shouldn't be a hate crime on the books" family attorney

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