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Posted by: HECK!

"If you've retired, you don't have anything to worry about. The third time I've said that. I'll probably say it three more times, see, in my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda ." President George W. Bush, Greece, New York, May 24, 2005

We will stand with the new leaders of Iraq as they build a government of, by, and for the Iraqi people. This is going to take time. The efforts to restore security and infrastructure is going to take time, and it's not going to be easy work. But we will stay the course. (May 2, 2003)

It's important we succeed. And so, therefore, our coalition of a lot of countries will stay the course, until such time as the Iraqi people -- the life is improved and the Iraqi people would be in a position to, you know, run themselves. (May 29, 2003)

Not only does the war on terror go on, but we've got a lot of work to do in Iraq. And we're going to stay the course until the job gets done. (Jun. 5, 2003)

Thanks to their bravery and their sacrifice, the world is more peaceful, America is more secure, and the Iraqi people are now free. We have a lot more work to do in Iraq and we'll stay the course. (Jun. 11, 2003)

He was a threat to America. He was a threat to freedom-loving countries. He was a threat in the Middle East. But what we're finding out is the nature of this man when it came to how he dealt with the Iraqi people, as well. And it was -- it's unbelievable what he did. And I -- when it comes to the AIDS initiative, we believe in human dignity, we also believe that everybody ought to live in free societies, too. And so we'll stay the course in Iraq. (Jul. 2, 2003)

We haven't been there long. I mean, relatively speaking. We've been there for 90 to 100 days -- I don't have the exact number. But I will tell you, it's going to take more than 90 to 100 days for people to recognize the great joys of freedom and the responsibilities that come with freedom. We're making steady progress. A free Iraq will mean a peaceful world. And it's very important for us to stay the course, and we will stay the course. (Jul. 10, 2003)

We will stay the course. We will not be intimidated by thugs who are trying to create fear, and the conditions for us to remove. A free Iraq is essential to making sure that America and the future generations of America are able to live in peace and freedom. (Oct. 3, 2003)

A free Iraq in the middle of the Middle East will change the world. This is historic times. This nation will stay the course until Iraq is free and peaceful and prosperous. (Oct. 8, 2003)

Our work in Iraq has been long and hard, and it is not finished. We will stay the course, we will complete the task. (Oct. 9, 2003)

We believe -- and the Iraqi people will show -- that liberty is the hope and the right of every land. Our work in Iraq has been long, it's hard, and it's not finished. We will stay the course. (Oct. 9, 2003)

Our work in Iraq has been long, it's hard, and it's not finished. We will stay the course. We will complete our job. And beyond Iraq, the war on terror continues. There will be no quick victory in this war. We will persevere and victory is certain. (Oct. 9, 2003)

Saddam holdouts and foreign terrorists are desperately trying to undermine Iraq's progress. See, they hate freedom. They can't stand the thought of a peaceful and hopeful society. They want to throw the country into chaos. The terrorists believe their attacks on innocent people will weaken our resolve. They don't understand our country. See, they believe we'll run from a challenge. This country will not be intimidated by a group of cold-blooded killers. This country will stay the course. (Oct. 15, 2003)

It's in the national interest of the United States that a peaceful Iraq emerge. And we will stay the course in order to achieve this objective. (Oct. 27, 2003)

The terrorists rely on the death of innocent people to create the conditions of fear that, therefore, will cause people to lose their will. That's their strategy. And it's a pretty clear strategy to me. And this country will stay the course. We'll do our job. And it's to our interest that we do our job. It's in our interest we do our job for a free world. A free Iraq is essential to creating conditions of peace. (Oct. 28, 2003)

These people want to -- these people being the terrorists and those who would kill innocent life -- want us to retreat, they want us to leave, because they know that a free and peaceful Iraq in their midst will damage their cause. And we will stay the course, we will do our job. (Nov. 4, 2003)

In terms of security, we will do whatever it takes to help Iraq develop into a free and peaceful country. That is our goal. And we will stay there until the job is done. And then we'll leave. ...We will stay the course, and as more and more Iraqis realize freedom is precious and freedom is a beautiful way of life, they will assume more and more responsibilities, not only for security, but for humanitarian reasons, as well. (Nov. 14, 2003)

Free countries listen to the hopes and aspirations of the people who live in those countries. America also believes that freedom is not America's gift to the world, freedom is the Almighty's gift to every person who lives in this world. And this nation will stay the course to bring democracy and freedom to Afghanistan and Iraq. And by doing so, we will not only help the long-suffering people in those countries, we will make America more secure and the world more peaceful. (Nov. 25, 2003)

Chalabi was there, as was Dr. Khuzaii, who had come to the Oval Office, I don't know if you all were in the pool that day, but she was there -- she was there with him, and one other fellow, and I had a good talk with them. We were there for about maybe a little less than 30 minutes. I was able to assure them that we were going to stay the course and get the job done. (Nov. 27, 2003)

Having seen the reaction of those troops, you know it was the right thing to do. And the word will get out. And their parents will appreciate it, and their loved ones will appreciate it. I went over there to thank them -- and not only thank them, but to remind them our country stands with them, and that we will stay the course until the job is done. ...And they feel like they're making good progress. You can measure based upon feedback from the ground. That's what they get. And that's -- they're upbeat. They just said, Mr. President, we'll stay the -- you stay the course, we'll succeed. And my message was, I know you'll succeed, and I'm here to tell you we're going to stay the course. (Nov. 27, 2003)

We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the temptation is to try to get the President or somebody to put a timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We're just going to stay the course. ...And the citizens of Iraq need to know we will stay the course. (Dec. 15, 2003)

Vicente Fox is a good enough friend for him to be able to express his opinion to me without the loss of friendship. And he didn't agree with the decision I made. But the decision I made was the right one for America. And history will prove it's the right one for the world. And we will stay the course until the job is done. And the job is getting done. Iraq is more free every day. (Jan. 12, 2004)

We will stay the course until the job is done, because a free Iraq in the heart of the Middle East will make the world more peaceful. (Jan. 23, 2004)

A free Iraq will change a neighborhood that needs to be free. A free Iraq will make the world more peaceful. But a free Iraq is something that the terrorists fear. They hate freedom. They can't stand the thought of a free society. So they're willing to kill. And they're trying to shake our will. But they don't understand this country. We will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins. This country will stay the course and get the job done. We will get the job done. (Apr. 2, 2004)

I just met with Specialist Chris Hill's family from North Carolina. You know, I told the family how much we appreciated his sacrifice -- he was killed in Iraq -- and assured him that we would stay the course. (Apr. 5, 2004)

We've got to stay the course, and we will stay the course. The message to the Iraqi citizens is they don't have to fear that America will turn and run. And that's an important message for them to hear. If they think that we're not sincere about staying the course, many people will not continue to take a risk toward -- take the risk toward freedom and democracy. (Apr. 5, 2004)

I met with the family of a fellow who -- who was killed in Iraq. It's part of my duty, it's part of my obligation. It was an uplifting experience to meet with a family that loves their country. I told the -- I told the dad, and the mom, and the wife that we'd stay the course. (Apr. 5, 2004)

They want to shake our will. So we've got tough action in Iraq. But we will stay the course. (Apr. 5, 2004)

There's a lot of brave people there that want to be free, but they've been tortured and terrorized and traumatized by a tyrant. And it's going to take a while for them to understand what freedom is all about. We will pass sovereignty on June 30th. We will stay the course in Iraq. (Apr. 6, 2004)

We will stay the course. The Iraqi people don't have to fear taking the risk toward freedom and democracy because America won't turn and run. (Apr. 6, 2004)

Look, this is hard work. It's hard to advance freedom in a country that has been strangled by tyranny. And, yet, we must stay the course, because the end result is in our nation's interest. ...And my message today to those in Iraq is we'll stay the course. We'll complete the job. My message to our troops is we will stay the course and complete the job and you'll have what you need. (Apr. 13, 2004)

Mr. Carman must know that our prayers are with him, and with those of others who have lost a loved one in Iraq, and that the mission that his son was on was a noble and important mission for peace and freedom, and for the security of America. And we will stay the course in Iraq so that his son did not die in vain. (Apr. 15, 2004)

It's a wonderful feeling to have a strong ally in believing in the power of free societies and liberty. And that's why we're going to stay the course in Iraq. (Apr. 16, 2004)

There are a lot of people in the world who believe that certain societies can't self-govern. That's not what Americans believe. I told you, we believe freedom is in the soul of every human being. People long for freedom. It's not easy, though, to go from being tortured and maimed, and a society where there is mass graves, to a free society. It's hard work. It's really hard work. But Americans are used to hard work when it comes to a cause greater than ourself. And that's what we're doing. And we'll stay the course. (Apr. 20, 2004)

People say -- people say, how long are they going to be there? They will be there until we complete the mission in Afghanistan and Iraq. The mission is a country that can defend itself, and a free country. That's the mission. I talk to parents all the time. I say, listen, I want your child home as quickly as possible. But we must not send mixed signals. We must stay the course until the job is done. (Aug. 13, 2004)

In order to make the world a more peaceful place, when you say something, you better mean it. And we've told the people of Afghanistan, Iraq, we'll help them. We will stay the course so that they can develop an army and police force of their own so they can defend themselves. (Sep. 13, 2004)

It's hard work in Iraq. Everybody knows that. We see it on our TV. My message is that -- is that we will stay the course and stand with these people so that they become free. (Sep. 23, 2004)

We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq. And the job is this. We'll help the Iraqis develop a democracy. (Aug. 4, 2005)

Some critics continue to assert that we have no plan in Iraq except to stay the course. If by stay the course they mean we will not allow the terrorists to break our will, they are right. If by stay the course they mean we will not permit al Qaeda to turn Iraq into what Afghanistan was under the Taliban -- a safe haven for terrorism and a launching pad for attacks on America -- they are right, as well. If by stay the course they mean that we're not learning from our experiences, or adjusting our tactics to meet the challenges on the ground, then they're flat wrong. (Nov. 30, 2005)

We're not going to lose in Iraq. As a matter of fact, we will win in Iraq so long as we stay the course. (Jul. 11, 2006)

Iraq is the central front in this war on terror. If we leave the streets of Baghdad before the job is done, we will have to face the terrorists in our own cities. We will stay the course, we will help this young Iraqi democracy succeed, and victory in Iraq will be a major ideological triumph in the struggle of the 21st century. (Aug. 30, 2006)

And so, for those folks saying, make sure there's flexibility, I couldn't agree more with you. And I think the characterization of let's stay the course is about a quarter right. Stay the course means keep doing what you're doing. My attitude is, don't do what you're doing if it's not working, change. stay the course also means don't leave before the job is done. (Oct. 11, 2006)
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Posted by: Lawless

Well, it's a phrase that he was able to memorize, and speak without mispronouncing, or screwing up.

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Posted by: HECK!

You know, all this talk of Kerry in recent days yet Dubya insults the intelligence of the American people every day as evident above.

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Posted by: Lawless

Oh yeah... Dubya days are numbered, my friend! We just have to put up with him a little while longer.

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Posted by: fuscia

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Lawless said this in post #2 :
Well, it's a phrase that he was able to memorize, and speak without mispronouncing, or screwing up.


and to take attention off the fact that he can not pronounce nuclear
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Posted by: P.O.T.U.S.

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fuscia said this in post #5 :


and to take attention off the fact that he can not pronounce nuclear


Yes, and by the way it's cannot, not can not.

The time may come when you have to make a choice between what is right and what is easy.
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Posted by: Sayzak

he's talking about their propaganda, not his, when he says "catapult the propaganda." I thought that was obvious to everyone. Guess not.

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Posted by: gaboman

So he is catapulting their propaganda? Why would he do that?

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Posted by: Dekka00

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P.O.T.U.S. said this in post #6 :


Yes, and by the way it's cannot, not can not.

The time may come when you have to make a choice between what is right and what is easy.


for the record, either "can not" or "cannot" is correct.
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Posted by: HECK!

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Sayzak said this in post #7 :
he's talking about their propaganda, not his, when he says "catapult the propaganda." I thought that was obvious to everyone. Guess not.


Damn my skipping over the obvious. Curses. Then, I wonder who 'they' are... must be Clinton, methinks.

That can not/cannot/can't/fo-no-sheezy be right.

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Posted by: P.O.T.U.S.

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Dekka00 said this in post #9 :


for the record, either "can not" or "cannot" is correct.


• An America-hating leftist gasbag can't see the forest for the trees.

• An America-hating leftist gasbag can not see the forest for the trees.

• An America-hating leftist gasbag cannot see the forest for the trees.


It's all good…
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Posted by: HECK!



From a person that loves that Dubya so much, an undeniable wordsmith Sloth, the irony of mocking others is so... ironic.

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Posted by: Sayzak

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HECK! said this in post #10 :


Damn my skipping over the obvious. Curses. Then, I wonder who 'they' are... must be Clinton, methinks.

That can not/cannot/can't/fo-no-sheezy be right.

-HECK!


You know who "they" are. Come on. What "propaganda" might bush be talking about? You're a smart guy.
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Posted by: HECK!

Thank you, I am a smart guy. As a smart guy, I think the "propaganda" Dubya is talking about is that which spills from his silly mouth.

"The third time I've said that. I'll probably say it three more times, see, in my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda."

Read, rinse, repeat.

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Posted by: gaboman

I believe in Freudian Slips, and Dubya has some doozies. This one is probably not the worst. The one about us wanting to harm ourselves like our enemies do is probably the most telling of them all, I reckon.

As for the propaganda Bush is talking about here, well, he thought he was talking about the propaganda filling the Country by all media outlets except FOX. Of course, subconciously, he knew he was telling everybody about the propaganda he, himself, is spreading.

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Posted by: h@ts

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qZE20lzZZF0

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Posted by: HECK!

Excellent video... obviously

That's some goooooooood catapultin' right there.

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Posted by: fuscia

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P.O.T.U.S. said this in post #6 :


Yes, and by the way it's cannot, not can not.

The time may come when you have to make a choice between what is right and what is easy.


hmmm right= posting your own post

easy=copy and pasting instead of using your own ideas
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Posted by: HECK!

It's all they have left fuscia, overblowing the Kerry thing, correcting grammar, blaming Clinton... all of it is just polishing the Titanic.

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Posted by: HECK!

Bush Abandons Phrase ‘Stay the Course’ on Iraq

By JIM RUTENBERG and DAVID S. CLOUD
Published: October 24, 2006

WASHINGTON, Oct. 23 — The White House said Monday that President Bush was no longer using the phrase “stay the course” when speaking about the Iraq war, in a new effort to emphasize flexibility in the face of some of the bloodiest violence there since the 2003 invasion.

“He stopped using it,” said Tony Snow, the White House press secretary. “It left the wrong impression about what was going on and it allowed critics to say, ‘Well, here’s an administration that’s just embarked upon a policy and not looking at what the situation is,’ when, in fact, it is the opposite.”

Mr. Bush used the slogan in a stump speech on Aug. 31, but has not repeated it for some time. Still, Mr. Snow’s pronouncement was a stark example of the complicated line the White House is walking this election year in trying to tag Democrats as wanting to “cut and run” from Iraq, without itself appearing wedded to unsuccessful tactics there.

Democrats have increasingly pressed a case this fall contending that Republicans are stubbornly proposing to “stay the course” in a failing effort to stanch violence in Iraq. Strategists in both parties consider the Democrats’ approach to have been fairly successful, especially as violence has continued to mount in Baghdad.

In the last few weeks a number of Republican lawmakers and party elders have also come forward to express doubts about whether the administration’s approach to stabilizing Iraq is succeeding and to suggest new strategies.

Mr. Bush and his aides have met those complaints with a renewed emphasis on adaptability for the United States’ war plan. Mr. Bush has stressed — as he did in an interview with ABC News on Sunday — that he is “not patient forever” and expects the Iraqis to take more responsibility in securing their own country.

In the same vein, administration officials are heightening the emphasis on setting milestones for Iraq to take over responsibility for ensuring security while disbanding sectarian militia groups.

Bush administration officials on Monday provided new details of their efforts to devise benchmarks for measuring the Baghdad government’s progress in the coming months toward assuming a larger role in securing the country.

Mr. Snow said the issue of benchmarks had come up cursorily during recent discussions with Mr. Bush; Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld; Gen. John P. Abizaid, the top American commander in the Middle East; Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and Zalmay Khalilzad, the American ambassador to Iraq.

He added that the Bush administration was not presenting any ultimatums to Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki’s government or tying goals to United States troop commitments.

Mr. Snow was commenting on a report in The New York Times on Sunday that said the Bush administration was drafting a timetable with Iraqi officials for dealing with the militias and achieving other political, economic and military benchmarks aimed at stabilizing the country.

The Times article quoted several senior officials anonymously as saying the Bush administration would consider changes in military strategy and other steps if Iraq balked at the benchmarks or failed to meet the most critical timetables.

Mr. Rumsfeld said Monday that the benchmarks under discussion included projections on when Iraq might be able to take control of more of the country’s 18 provinces. Only two provinces are under full Iraqi security administration, though officials say they hope the number will rise to six or seven by the end of the year.

Speaking to reporters at the Pentagon, Mr. Rumsfeld said the goal of the discussions was to produce a “way ahead” so that “their government can have a set of tasks that they need to do to get prepared to assume the responsibility for governing their country and providing security for their country.”

The goal, he added, was for both sides to agree on what he called “projections” for when Iraq might be able to take on these tasks.

“My guess is that you might find that in no case will you find a specific date” for assuming a particular task, he said. But, he added, “You might find a month, or you might find a spread of two or three months, a period where they think they might be able to do it.”

Mr. Bush, in discussing at a news conference on Oct. 11 the meaning of the phrase “stay the course,” also refused to be pinned down.

“Stay the course means keep doing what you’re doing,” he said. “My attitude is, don’t do what you’re doing if it’s not working; change.”

He added: “Stay the course also means don’t leave before the job is done. And that’s — we’re going to get the job done in Iraq. And it’s important that we do get the job done in Iraq.”

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Posted by: HECK!

Posting cartoons is super fun. Makes me feel so 'right'.

http://www.inreview.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=678176

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Posted by: HECK!

More cartoons to prove my point and not use any brain cells, I think you will enjoy

http://www.inreview.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=678177

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Posted by: HECK!

You gotta feel bad for Dubbs. Poor little fella, can't make any of his crappy catch phrases stick

http://www.inreview.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=678178

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Posted by: gaboman

"We'll be greeted as liberators" is my favorite. That whacky Cheney, you never know what he'll do next.

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Posted by: Sayzak

What does "Stay the course" mean?

Along with "stay the course", president Bush has also said, ALL ALONG, that tactics in Iraq will change depending on what commanders on the field say.

Is that a contradiction? No.

Liberals have taken his catch phrase and given it their own meaning to crucify the president, the GOP, the war, and anyone who supports it.

What COURSE are we talking about?

THE WAR ON TERRORISM!!!!!

Not the current battle, not the rate at which we're losing soldier's lives. Not the receding support around the world.

The WAR it's self.

That's the COURSE the president is staying on. The course he's NOT staying on is failure. And liberals are so damn stuck on failure they're throwing his phrase, plus their disposition in his face.

"It was never stay the course" means that when things look bad, he's going to ADAPT.

Some people have extremely selective reasoning skills.

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Posted by: HECK!

Yup, good thing he's retired another failed propaganda catchphrase.

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Posted by: Sayzak

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HECK! said this in post #26 :
Yup, good thing he's retired another failed propaganda catchphrase.

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It's because liberals have convinced themselves, as well as everyone else who doesn't know what it means, into thinking it means failure.
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Posted by: HECK!

It's certainly not success. That's not partisan, that's reality.

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Posted by: Sayzak

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HECK! said this in post #28 :
It's certainly not success. That's not partisan, that's reality.

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That has been bush-hater's reality the moment the war started.

And now most of the public thinks the president's hijacked catch phrase means exactly what liberal's have been calling for.

Failure.

(Never mind the fact that the war isn't over, and the war can still be won, and if it is won it's better for the entire world... it's just more convenient for you if the president loses, so as long as the news is bad, you'll continue pushing such blatantly agenda-driven rhetoric.)

It's no wonder you feel jubilantly proud of your negative disposition.

No offense man, but you've been coming across as the Liberal's Curley Joe lately.

Ying-Yang.

I could never get into politics and have these kinds of debates without losing my cool. I thought about that today. If someone tried to pass their disposition off as a fact, and cracked me with a good zinger as if to say "I told you so" even though their proclamation was wildly off base I would strangle them. I'm not saying you're wildly off base, since neither of us know the true details, or intent behind the war (we can wait for answers, or prematurely decide that we know). But you obviously have your mind up, and have closed yourself off to any possibility that doesn't reflect your disposition. So arguing about it with you is like banging my head against the wall and I'm not insane so I will just leave this thread with a bruise.
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Posted by: h@ts

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Sayzak said this in post #29 :
(Never mind the fact that the war isn't over, and the war can still be won, and if it is won it's better for the entire world... it's just more convenient for you if the president loses, so as long as the news is bad, you'll continue pushing such blatantly agenda-driven rhetoric.)


It can be "won" right now. All Bush has to do is declare victory and call the troops home. Thing is, it depends what you mean by won and victory: the goal posts, like always with the Bush administration, are moving.

And get this, high-priest of neocon thinking, and architect of the Iraq war, Richard Perle, is now saying Bush should be held responsible for the quagmire in Iraq.

Perle says that "at the end of the day, you have to hold the president responsible." Such an old fashioned idea, expecting someone to take responsibility.

quote:
Neocons turn on Bush for incompetence over Iraq war

Julian Borger in Washington
Saturday November 4, 2006
The Guardian


Several prominent neoconservatives have turned on George Bush days before critical midterm elections, lambasting his administration for incompetence in the handling of the Iraq war and questioning the wisdom of the 2003 invasion they were instrumental in promoting.

Mr Perle, a member of the influential Defence Policy Board that advised the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, in the run-up to the war, is as outspoken in denouncing the conduct of the war as he was once bullish on the invasion. He blamed "dysfunction" in the Bush administration for the present quagmire.

"The decisions did not get made that should have been. They didn't get made in a timely fashion, and the differences were argued out endlessly," Mr Perle told Vanity Fair, according to early excerpts of the article. "At the end of the day, you have to hold the president responsible.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/midterms2...1939472,00.html
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Posted by: HECK!

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Sayzak said this in post #29 :


That has been bush-hater's reality the moment the war started.

And now most of the public thinks the president's hijacked catch phrase means exactly what liberal's have been calling for.

Failure.

(Never mind the fact that the war isn't over, and the war can still be won, and if it is won it's better for the entire world... it's just more convenient for you if the president loses, so as long as the news is bad, you'll continue pushing such blatantly .)

It's no wonder you feel jubilantly proud of your negative disposition.

No offense man, but you've been coming across as the Liberal's Curley Joe lately.

Ying-Yang.

I could never get into politics and have these kinds of debates without losing my cool. I thought about that today. If someone tried to pass their disposition off as a fact, and cracked me with a good zinger as if to say "I told you so" even though their proclamation was wildly off base I would strangle them. I'm not saying you're wildly off base, since neither of us know the true details, or intent behind the war (we can wait for answers, or prematurely decide that we know). But you obviously have your mind up, and have closed yourself off to any possibility that doesn't reflect your disposition. So arguing about it with you is like banging my head against the wall and I'm not insane so I will just leave this thread with a bruise.


No offense taken.

For starts, just to be pals for a hot second, why should saying it is not a success be likened to "Bush-hating"? I said it wasn't a success, is someone a bit of a Negative Nancy and sees that as failure? Actually, don't answer that. We certainly don't want negative jubilation running rampant around here...

It seems something that might collide with your fence riding approach to the big debates causes head banging, so I won't dwell into the minutia of your musing above.

The one notion you erroneously spit up that gives me about a second's worth of second thought is stating yours truly being close-minded. To rebut, I'll leave you with two nuggets of truth you should know about me: first, don't do that. Second, knowledge and perception of reality is an ever-growing process and when one comes across a personally objectionable idea that you can't wrap your mind around it's not always a good idea to disregard it outright or put it in a little box marked "agenda-driven rhetoric". I'm not saying that's you, because I don't have the clairvoyance to get inside your stylish political knowledge. It might be wise to extend similar courtesy, or you can keep getting served, either way.

So, bang the head, pound the sand, fly a kite, have a beer, either way, keep it nice... until it's time to not be nice.

And the Liberal Curley Joe? Far out, that's a bold statement. I guess that makes you the pre-teen HECK. Them’s were the days.

Keep on keepin' on with your bad self.

-HECK!
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