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One of the definitions of madness is the repetition countless times of the same action, always expecting a different result. For more than half a century, the Israelis have been applying the tactic of massively disproportionate retaliation to every provocative act of resistance by the Palestinians, expecting every time that this would bring peace and security to all the people of the Holy Land. Every single time they have done this, it has backfired. Every single time.
- Ray Close (ex CIA) Newstatesman July 2006
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The above not only applies to the ongoing Middle Eastern conflict, but equally it applies to the madness of Bush and Blair who, despite the carnage going on in Iraq, somehow think that repeating this insanity elsewhere in the region will - this time - return a different result.
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| Posted by: Sayzak | | So you don't believe that persistance pays off--ever? You have no imagination my friend. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: h@ts | |
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Sayzak said this in post #2 :
So you don't believe that persistance pays off--ever? You have no imagination my friend. |
Persistance is all fine and good when you're not the one suffering the consequences.
One day in the not to distant future the Arabs and other states we've trodden on will have weapons on a par with ours. When that day comes we will either be forced to sit down and talk or annihilate the planet. Until then we can continue to believe we are the good guys and own the world by right, to rule how ever we see fit.
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| Posted by: lodgebo | |
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Sayzak said this in post #2 :
So you don't believe that persistance pays off--ever? You have no imagination my friend. |
Like the persistance of spending 25 years in Lebanon only to have to go back.
Persistance has it's place but changing the battle plan is a whole lot easier.
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| Posted by: Dekka00 | |
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h@ts said this in post #1 :
The above not only applies to the ongoing Middle Eastern conflict, but equally it applies to the madness of Bush and Blair who, despite the carnage going on in Iraq, somehow think that repeating this insanity elsewhere in the region will - this time - return a different result. |
that's because the international community always makes Israel back off before they're finished.
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| Posted by: h@ts | |
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Dekka00 said this in post #5 :
that's because the international community always makes Israel back off before they're finished. |
Do you think, now that Bush has given the Israelis the green light, they'll "finish" it (whatever that means) this time?
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In August 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon... During 14 hours on Aug. 12, the Israelis flew 220 bombing sorties over Beirut and fired 44,000 artillery shells into the city... A Newsweek correspondent cabled home: "Watching the Israeli Air Force smashing Beirut to pieces was like having to watch a man slowly beating a sick dog to death."
The next morning, one of Reagan's longtime assistants, Michael Deaver, came into the Oval Office and told Reagan he was quitting: "I can't be part of this anymore, the bombings, the killing of children. It's wrong. You're the one person on the face of the Earth right now who can stop it. All you have to do is tell Begin you want it stopped."
Reagan called Prime Minister Menachem Begin. Working from notes, as usual, the American president said the future of relations between the two allies would be affected if the bombing and shelling were not stopped. Reagan used, deliberately, the word "Holocaust" to describe what Israel was doing.
Begin, who never had a good personal relationship with Reagan, was enraged, saying Israel was a sovereign country, not an American colony. Twenty minutes later, he called back the White House and said he was ordering an end to the attack on Beirut.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucrr/200607...ostopthekilling
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| Posted by: asantana | |
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Sayzak said this in post #2 :
So you don't believe that persistance pays off--ever? You have no imagination my friend. |
persistance in killing children and women and elderly people....... you are a hero sayzak ,,, keep it up 
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| Posted by: h@ts | | Israel drops leaflets telling Lebanese civilians to leave, but then bombs the infrastructure, petrol stations, bridges, roads, AND cars attempting to leave.
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| ...with the number of civilian cars and convoys which have been bombed on the roads heading to Tyre, many residents were too scared to take the Israeli warnings or were unable to flee because they had no means of transport. |
But of course if the civilians who haven't left are killed by Israeli bombs then it is Hezbollah's fault for using them as shields, or so the propoganda goes.
No doubt the bombs that killed the civilians in Qana were paid for and manufactured in the USA, flown from the States in planes which were refueled in the UK at Prestwick airport and then supplied to the Israeli airforce last week. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: asantana | |
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Sayzak said this in post #9 :
asantana,
you don't know me, don't even go there |
go where?
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| Posted by: Sayzak | |
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asantana said this in post #11 :
go where? |
I said nothing about killing innocent people.
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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Dekka00 said this in post #5 :
that's because the international community always makes Israel back off before they're finished. |
Amen brother.
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| Posted by: h@ts | |
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Dekka00 said this in post #5 :
that's because the international community always makes Israel back off before they're finished. |
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Whidden said this in post #13 :
Amen brother. |
I think you'll find that there is only one country in the international community that can get Israel to do anything.
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