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Posted by: Gariel

Mass media in numerous countries definitely point to this fact.
First of all they have no Iraqis at hand to rely on. The problem is so evident. It strikes me how could American analytics have miscalculated this when planning the war. It’s absolutely clear that in the tribe country the tough struggle for power is inevitable (Sunnites against Shiites with Kurds against all).
Anybody could be made a tribe leader. And then somebody will oppose it, somebody will be not happy and somebody will fight. There is only one possible way out: there should be an administration under the UN umbrella. As for the order keeping measures the UN peacekeepers may be well involved. At least I see it so. Am I right?

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Posted by: ickle

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Originally posted by Gariel
Mass media in numerous countries definitely point to this fact.
First of all they have no Iraqis at hand to rely on. The problem is so evident. It strikes me how could American analytics have miscalculated this when planning the war. It’s absolutely clear that in the tribe country the tough struggle for power is inevitable (Sunnites against Shiites with Kurds against all).
Anybody could be made a tribe leader. And then somebody will oppose it, somebody will be not happy and somebody will fight. There is only one possible way out: there should be an administration under the UN umbrella. As for the order keeping measures the UN peacekeepers may be well involved. At least I see it so. Am I right?


a) The mass media of many countries desperately want the US efforti n Iraq to fail - for a plethora of reasons. To those who opposed the war, US failure does much more to serve their interests than Iraq being able to move forward.

b) Will the Iraqis act differently under the UN umbrella? Would the UN have been able to stop the looting? If so, how? Do you think tribal rivalries and attempts to grab power would magically dissappear if our soldiers were to put on blue helmets? I think not.
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Posted by: nowar

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Originally posted by ickle


a) The mass media of many countries desperately want the US efforti n Iraq to fail - for a plethora of reasons. To those who opposed the war, US failure does much more to serve their interests than Iraq being able to move forward.

b) Will the Iraqis act differently under the UN umbrella? Would the UN have been able to stop the looting? If so, how? Do you think tribal rivalries and attempts to grab power would magically dissappear if our soldiers were to put on blue helmets? I think not.


a) the problem is: US gov has a big problem there and that's what the media - whatever the media is - are pointing. When the media talk about a good thing US gov did - quite rare - you don't say 'what a source' . But when the same media talk about something bad or wrong US gov did, you say ' what a crap, biased, .... ' .....

b) one thing is sure: the problem would have been the same but maybe with more respect to UN troops and maybe more involvment from UN troops than what the US troops are doing now.

Note that I used "RESPECT": respect is not something you can have when people are afraid ....
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Posted by: frenchfries

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Originally posted by ickle


a) The mass media of many countries desperately want the US efforti n Iraq to fail - for a plethora of reasons. To those who opposed the war, US failure does much more to serve their interests than Iraq being able to move forward.

b) Will the Iraqis act differently under the UN umbrella? Would the UN have been able to stop the looting? If so, how? Do you think tribal rivalries and attempts to grab power would magically dissappear if our soldiers were to put on blue helmets? I think not.



Regarding a). Are USA developping a persecution complex? Why the hell would many countries expect US efforts to fail? Just to be right? Come on!!! We are talking about civilians lives and this war already proved to be a failure of Bush adminitration, would it be only regarding the WMD.
It's a common interest to have a wealthy and democratic Iraq!

regarding b) What other reaction would you like them to have? Even your government admitted that they poorly managed this situation! Lootings ALWAYS occur in such conditions!
I hope that only the total lack of foresight abilities of allies is to blame, because I can hardly understand why all ministries were looted, except one ministry: the oil ministry, well protected by allies.

How can you explain that?!
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