Will the death of Al Zarqawi slow the insurgency in Iraq? |
| Posted by: Inner City Blues | | I say no, they said he was waning in power coming from other groups and I believe his power was exaggerated to some extent. Nonetheless, this will definitely be a morale boost to the troops because they saw him as a powerful threat in Iraq, so maybe their morale boost will do more to clamp down on the insurgency. But slowing down the insurgency, I don't think it will, it's not as if Zarqawi really even knew how to use a gun (remember that video? ). | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: brochu13 | | If it is slowed at all, it will only be for about a week or something. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: EUCLID | | Well aside from the death of Zarqawi, there has been a bit of debate over whether we are winning or losing in Iraq. The problem with that debate is that neither side can provide anything in the way of objective proof, so they both appear to be merely expressing their wish.
Now, however, we finally have proof that we are winning the war. It comes in the form of an admission by Zarqawi that Al Qaida is losing. The information was in written documents found with Zarqawi after he was killed. Also found was a strategy developed by Zarqawi to overcome their losing stature. It called for fomenting a conflict between the U.S. and Iran in order to distract the U.S. from its effort in Iraq.
So the guy we are fighting admits we are wining. Murtha should put that in his pipe and smoke it. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: lodgebo | | The thing is can you belive what he hs said remember this guy was binned by Al Queda and eventually betrayed by Al Queda people were leaving him in droves and looking for a new leader for Al Queda Iraq. So the question really should be was al Queda failing du to the coalition or was Al queda failing due to bad leadership?
Also it is important to remembe that it is not just Al queda that we are fighting there are many terror groups out there and the fact that bombings are a daily ocurance proves that terrorism is not receding at all. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: EUCLID | |
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lodgebo said this in post #5 :
So the question really should be was al Queda failing du to the coalition or was Al queda failing due to bad leadership?
the fact that bombings are a daily ocurance proves that terrorism is not receding at all. |
If Al Qaida was failing due to bad leadership, you would think that the last person to admit failure would be the leader. So I would say that while Zarqawi's admission cannot be taken as absolute proof, it is pretty strong evidence.
By the same standard of fairness, I don't think you can say that the fact that bombings are a daily occurrence proves that terrorism is not receding at all.
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| Posted by: lodgebo | | Well maybe but when you consider that the bombings are more sophisticated and that the target has changed and definitly the goal has changed . It proves that the old style attacks that were at best crude but effective have receded but the new style attacks are most definitly on the increase and to achieve the terrorists goals ( civil war) it has to be frequent. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: brochu13 | | The fact that he was sold out by one of his Leutenants is the best sign that the insurgency is on its way down. When they are abandoning idealism and selling out leaders, that's good for us. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: lodgebo | | well that is one way of looking at it I suppose but I tend to think that he was sold out because they wanted rid of him becasue he was ineffective an embarresment and Al Queda wanted a new guy brought in. Al Queda would not kill one of thier own so they sold him out. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: brochu13 | | Yeah, both sides of the arguement certainly make sense. The fact that it even came to that at all though, in either case, leads me to beleive we might be getting somewhere in the fight against them. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: EUCLID | |
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lodgebo said this in post #9 :
Al Queda would not kill one of thier own so they sold him out. |
What would be the difference between Al Qaida selling him out to be killed and killing him themselves? Killing seems to one of Al Qaida's core competencies. I would think that they would do it "in house" rather than farm it out to the U.S. By letting the U.S. kill him, it certainly runs the risk of making it look like the U.S. is winning. Why would they want that?
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| Posted by: lodgebo | | Because if the US kill him it could potentially drum up more support and possibly even more people taking up arms. Also if the US kill him it is easier for Al Queda ti use him as a martyr, they rae hardly going to make martyr out of somebidy they have killed themselves are they?
Bottom line is that it looks better if the "infidels" kill him. | | Reply To this Message
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