Iron Man (2008)

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So, Marvel pimped out many of its major titles, including Iron Man. It seems to be the only new one gaining speed.

Attached to direct is Jon Favreau.

I have no problem with this. I think Favreau is a great director. Personally I like him better acting, but what can you do.

Just reported, attached to star as the drunken billionaire genius with a heart condition is none other than.... Tom Cruise.

Discuss.

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Not thrilled about Tom Cruise as Iron Man. I want someone younger. Taller. Who would look ok sporting Tony Stark's old moustache from back in the day...

All I gotta say is, for my brother's sake, they'd better do this film a heckuva lot of justice.

I know you are a comic book guy, SD. So am I from way back. I don't have a problem that much with Cruise doing Iron Man. He does need to rock the mustache. But I always thought of Tony Stark as more ethnic for some reason. Don't know why. Bigger for sure. Tom Cruise is way shorter.

Who would you cast?

Clive Owen would rock it, in my book.

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There is NO WAY that Tom Cruise should be playing this part. He doesn't fit it, in appearance. That really disappoints me.

http://www.battlestarfanclub.com/battlestar/dave/dgstark.jpg

http://www.fantasymagazine.it/imgbank/IMG/iron_man_3_preview_20050324104717444_000.jpg

Dunno.

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The second pic isn't showing, Heck.

Really, I see it...

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You know, I could see Ben Afleck playing that part... but, since he already did DareDevil, it just wouldn't be right, I don't think.

Affleck... ugh. I like him, but Daredevil didn't really solidify him as an action star in my opinion.

I still say Clive Owen... or even Colin Farrell? This might seem odd, but Paul Rudd would work too.

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I wouldn't watch Affleck as Stark. Well, I WOULD, but very begrudgingly.

Clive Owen is a good choice. Hey, for a good b-lister, how about Bruce Campbell? Stan Lee seems to like him, or is it Sam Raimi who likes him? He could pull off a "pseudo-serious" role like this.

Or maybe an up-and-comer like Ryan Gosling or Ryan Reynolds?

What do you think?

Bruce Campbell is cool, but I can't get over his goofy Army Of Darkness type roles.

Ryan Gosling or Ryan Reynolds... I always get them confused. Which one was on that pizza place TV show?

Hell, why not Bruce Willis? He'd have to wear a wig, but still.

John Cusack maybe?

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I considered Cusack, but I'm not convinced.

For an older Stark, I'd say there's no one better than Clooney...

Ryan Reynolds was in "Two Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Parlour", as well as National Lampoon's Van Wilder, Blade: Trinity, etc.

Ryan Gosling was in The Notebook.

I might have considered Ed Burns, but he can't get rid of his accent. And whenever I think if Ed Burns, I always am reminded of Ed Norton... They need to make a good action movie for that guy. He did fantastic in History X.

Wow, I didn't realize casting could be so frustrating... Still, we're not professionals (I assume none of us are, anyways...), so I will continue to hold the industry guys and gals to a high standard when they cast for this or any other role that I'm emotionally and nostalgically invested in.

Ah yes, I remember the Ryan's now. Thanks.

I like Ed Norton, that's not a bad idea. Is Brad Pitt too much of a pretty boy to do it?

Val Kilmer would rule.

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Pitt's too pretty. Besides, I think he tried the black hair thing before and it didn't look right... BTW, black hair is required for this role, no exceptions...

Kilmer might do well as an older Stark too. Good call.

Kiefer, if he died his hair black?

Oh man, Kurt Russel would nail it. I think he's the most underrated actor out there. He rules all.

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Ryan Reynolds? He's too much of a comedian of an actor. I just don't see it.

Colin Farrell would be cool... Paul Rudd, hmmmmm, it's possible.

Kurt Russell is a great actor.

Sadly, I think Cruise might work. The rest of the names we're talking about have potential though.

If it's not Kurt Russell or Val Kilmer, then Cruise will have to be the guy.

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I just don't see it. Tom can act... sure. But, damn it... he just doesn't seem the right choice for this part. *sigh* Maybe we will all be surprised... but, maybe he will flop this role.

He'll be in a suit most of the movie, hopefully. This is one of those CGI type movies. Like how much do we see Peter Parker in Spiderman?

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Okay... if they boost up his height, I MIGHT be okay with it! Iron Man is NOT 5' 10"

Good thing about Iron Man, in the old Marvel handbooks that talked about the hero's, the Iron Man suit was about 3 inches taller than Stark. He has some cushion in there.

Which Iron Man armor should they go with? Definitely not the original, that was lame. And hopefully not anything lame like the War Machine years.

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Different Iron Man armor attached, which do you like best? Say which row, then column (across, then down.)

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That's true... but, he just wasn't a "small" man. At least the suit has potential.

The original was too plain. I liked the "Crossing Armor" because it went back to the red and yellow. But, I'm not sure which I actually liked THE best. There were some that I absolutely didn't like.

Don't remember a lot of these. A few are from some alternate universe/future, I believe.

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Oh, and I also liked Iron Boy's suit. It wasn't as "solid" but gave you a little more of the feeling that it was a person beneath the suit.

Iron Boy?

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Yeah, it was a comic. I will have to get a pic to show you.

that kid actor, young dude. Josh something. Was in Pearl Harbor and a brief role in Sin City as the hitman.

Info on the Iron Boy

...as Teen Tony came into his own.

Iron Boy Armor, Model XX, Mark I. After appearing in this reality the young Tony Stark began building his own armor around IRON MAN #326. Seemingly reluctant--or unable--to build an entire suit of armor, Tony built Model XX in stages (almost one part at a time).

The Iron Boy Armor saw the return of polarized armor (thin, cloth-like outfit that could be worn under everyday clothes until a mangne-field polarizes it and the gauntlet and chestplate sections to iron toughness). Stage one began with a chestplate (with built-in heart respirator) and a pair of gauntlets (which were connected to, and supplied power by, wires attached to the chestplate. The new gloves were slimmer than the immediate previous model and had spikes on the fists. In the palms, new Magneti-Repulsors were an improvement over previous repulsor designs, but Tony still upgraded them before battling Frostbite (in #327).

Even in this limited configuration Tony could transfer power from his chest device to others, but with such a basic set-up the procedure was inadvisable--especially since he was plagued by an external drain phenomenon. A power belt was soon added to deliver the necessary "oomph."

Although quite basic, this three-piece-suit also contained limited sensors and tracking equipment (revealed in a compartment that slides open on the left forearm). The gauntlets also include a radio.

In IRON MAN #328, Teen Tony took the step he'd been resisting and finally built and entire suit: Model XX, Mark I-A. Cobbled together from a blender, a toaster, a doorbell, and Janet Van Dyne's favorite reading lamp (and presumably other parts found in the Avengers' Mansion) the full Model XX is a dramatic reinvigoration of Shellhead's look.

A large, upper body design with wide, bulky shoulders and a large horse collar, the Iron Boy Armor abandoned Iron Man's traditional sleek look, opting for a look that signaled brute strength and invincibility. Huge, over-sized, articulated musculature made up the arm sections, which featured robotic super-joints. Over-sized fingers rounded out the big gauntlet pieces, which continued the sweeping design concept. Recessed circles on the outer wrists (and boot sections) could launch cold and heat shields (and possibly repulsors).

The boot jets featured the brand-new Integrated Hyper-Thrust technology (patent pending)--which gaves the Avenger a little extra kick. The usual Stark gyro-stabilizers provided attitude control.

With all that new thrust Stark also redesigned the helmet's head case enabling it to instantly, automatically, secure helmet integrity at extreme speeds.

Sensors could monitor the life signs of others.

The special feature of this armor: The chestplate featured a gizmo not seen before--or since--the Pulser. Positioned just over the heart, just left of center, the pulser was designed to shunt off energy assaults and system overloads. Notably, this model did not have a chestbeam.

Armaments: Full range repulsors; fine-focus lasers; Therma-Screen, a heat and cold shield; capable of projecting microwave pulses; can fire subzero projections.



The Hallowed Holo-Armor

...his duds in IRON MAN #329.

Iron Boy Holo-Armor, Model XXI, Mark I, was slimmer than Model XVIII, representing a return to the more traditional style. What was not traditional about this armor was the truly revolutionary construction: Holo-Armor.

Tony still wore the chestplate under his clothes in its depolarized state, but the device remained on-line. By triggering his ankle and wrist housings, the gauntlet and boot sections were released into place. At the same time, holoprojectors within the armor ionized between them, creating a solid light force-field that's was good as gold, gold armor. The result: a red and gold suit of iron toughness and servo-powered super-strength.

Stark dropped the recessed, circular shield and repulsor ports, but they reappeared in later issues on his gloves (as part of a weapons upgrade no doubt).

The redesign included a center chestbeam (missing on the last version), "squarer" gauntlets, less bulky arm sections and the addition of boot cuffs. The helmet, which Tony kept in his bag, pulled on easy and locked down, securing helmet integrity. As on previous models the helmet contained oxygen filtration systems and optional opticals. The chestpiece included a heart pump and a prismatic mirror. A built-in cold generator could drop temps to absolute zero, creating a sustained barometric field of air at -273 degrees Celsius.

Armaments: Obligatory Repulsors; Chestbeam (powered by plasma relays); gauntlets fire wide-range of electrical arcs and could release a magnetic spectrum array along with other defensive arrays.

Special Feature on this suit: Teen Tony created vibranium psi-shields, a headgear device capable of thwarting Onslaught's mental reach.

Go here: http://www.ironmanarmory.com/armors.html

Scroll down six rows... to the far right.

I loved the Prometheum Armor in red and gold, except for the dramatic exhaust pipes on the back of the suit. If those could be scaled back or removed, then that Armor would be nearly perfect.

But I also loved the Tin Man Armor. Either one would be great for my taste.

I'm with ya, SD. I didn't like those pipe things!!!

Tin Man armor? I will have to check that one out.

Okay... I remember the Tin Man armor. Yeppers... pretty snazzy in my book.

Never heard of the Iron Lad. Interesting. Thought it was some campy 80's retro, but it looks fairly recent.

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Tom Cruise's height won't matter, it's a movie, they'll compensate with camera angles and tall shoes. It could only matter if you're too conscious of his actual height off camera to fallow the movie.

Cruise is an awesome actor. He can play any role, and nail any emotion. He happens to be especially good at action movies, but he hasn't attempted being a super hero. I hope he's better at it than Afleck. That movie sucked.

Cruise might be a good actor, or a great actor. But, him personally, he's really brought a lot of negative focus onto himself. That makes people look at him differently, no matter what you might think.

And I think that height does make a difference. Even when you're watching him in movies, he doesn't project a tall character.

I'm just sick of seeing him everywhere, all the time. I've had more than enough. Not to mention that just because he seems to be able to pull off many roles, doesn't mean he should get all the best parts. How else will anyone else get their shot? I gotta ask the question though: why has he never won an Oscar?

Btw, from what I understand, Cruise stands at a lofty 5'7".

Cruise's best chance was with Jerry Maguire, although I think he kicked ass in Collateral.

He's short, but in the suit with CGI, who knows. Hell, look at him in public with Holmes, somehow he looks taller than her.

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yeah, he was awesome in Collateral.

It would be pretty hard to jack this film up, casting wise.

Who should he fight? Stiltman maybe?

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Not the living laser. That guy was weak.

Found a cool pic of Iron Man on Wilk. I like the new suit better than the old one.




http://www.inreview.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=654025

I really like the new art style. That led me to pick up a couple of those more recent comics.

oh whidden, the guy you were wondering about is Josh Hartnet i believe. He was in Lucky Number Sleven, as well, if I remember correctly

Correct, SS...

He was also in Sin City, Black Hawk Down, and Pearl Harbor.

Iron Man is cool and all, but a whole movie about him? Eh. He's just not one of the 'big names' to me. I know he's huge and all that, but he's not up there with Spider Man, Superman, Batman, etc.

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He's a Marvel staple. My brother's favorite solo hero (when he wasn't with the Avengers, which was my brother's favorite supergroup...). I liked him too. Not as much as Spiderman and some of the others, but if they're willing to make a Ghost Rider movie, then they should also put out an Iron Man.

I'll be happy when they revisit Dare Devil and do it right...

I had no beef with him as a hero, he just wasn't a favorite of mine since he was just a dude in a suit. The suit is the real hero, he's just some rich drunk jerk who paid for it. Always been a Captain America fan.

But yeah, if they can make a Ghost Rider, not to mention Elektra, they can make Iron Man.

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I thought Daredevil sucked.


But Electra was kind of good. The effects were awesome.
And Alias chick was cool, along with the president from the Star Wars movies that Palpatine ousted.

That was Terrance Stamp... a.k.a. General Zodd.

You will kneel before me, son of Jor-El! Kneel before Zodd!!

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Oh yeah, Superman Two. He is one of those weirdo actors like Chris Walken.

Something is just wrong with the dudes face and his facial expressions. Almost non human.

Cool character actor though. He was in another movie I really liked... forget the name though. He also does the voice for Jor-El in the Smallville show, ironically.

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I lost track of Smallville this season, the last one I saw was the one where Lana and Clark hook up, then she dies, and it's all a cheap fako reality that Clark gets rid of.

Kind of pissed me off, so I quit watching.

Barely ever watched it... I just saw when Terrance Stamp was Jor-El's voice...

Then I saw one with that smokin' hot Lois Lane getting saved by Aquaman. Who cares about that- helllllllooooooooooooooooo Lois. Sweet jumpin' jive talkin' Judas, she was all kinds of hot. Never wanted to be a red bikini more in my life. No wonder Supes was silly for her. Chick makes Lana looke like Chloe (either from Smallville or 24, take your pick) after someone spit a loogie on her. If I were Superman I would fly really fast around the Earth and go back in time to when Lois was being conceived and use some Superman eye ray power to make sure their parents had twins, then fly back into the present and get them both...

Giggity giggity!
http://www.mypetmonkey.com/images/library/quagmire.JPG

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Yeah, I would go all super power on them, use mind tricks or whatever it took, and get Lois and Lana to sign up for some Super Love.

As Superman, after that I would fly into the sun, because my mission on Earth would be complete.

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Not me. I would move them both to the Fortress of Solitude and make it a fregin Autin Powers Shag pad.


and by "shag", I mean shag carpet of course.

But back to Iron Man.


If I was Iron Man, I wouldn't get any chicks, I would just hang out and drink. And hope I didn't run into Magneto.

I would stand on the street like a statue and when kids would come near me I would scare them and fly away.

Good times.

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I thought Iron Man was a Black person. Wesly Snipes would be a good person.

What about movie about Dr. Strange?

Nope, Iron Man is a caucasian dude named Anthony Stark. There may have been another suit that was used by a black dude, but it would probably have been named War Machine.

The man in the Iron Man suit is Tony Stark, a white guy.

However, on a few occasions for different reasons Tony's friend James Rhodes (a black dude) filled in for Tony and was Iron Man. Actually, I am pretty sure that Rhodey was Iron Man during the Secret Wars.

http://www.ironmanarmory.com/rhodeyarmorbio.jpg

He eventually got his own armor, calling himself War Machine.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0106/22/Warmachineth.jpg

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Ah, yes. That sounds familiar.

I remember that Rhodey as Iron Man was hit in the arm, penetrated the armor, so Mr. Fantastic had to fix it and bandage him up and he was all surprised that Iron Man was really black. Don't know why I remember that...

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cuz Mr. Fantastic is a racist.

Didn't Rhodes go nuts and die?

Mr. Fantastic'a ability to stretch his physical form is just a rouse to obscure the fact that he is a staunch and rigid bigot.

So, didn't Rhodes go mad, and Iron Man had to smack him down, and in the process, killed him accidentally? That's what I got from a brief glance through a comic at the store...

Hehe, I didn't mean ol' stretch was a racist, you know what I mean. Did Iron Man kill Rhodes?

To the internet!

In the Marvel Directory it says that Rhodes just went back to civilian life. Don't know how dated it is though.

Wiki says he got some government job and now has armor that makes him look like a mini-Sentinel.

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I know, I was just making stoopid fun. Might've stepped a bit too far...

'Sall good.

Now J. Jonah Jameson, there's a racist

http://nicolas.troudet.free.fr/SS2/persos/images/jjonahjameson.JPG

What's with the Hitler mustache? And his initials, JJJ? One letter away from KKK!

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and he shares his last name with a porno star.


Just a sick sick man.

Who, Tiffany Towers?

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Haha, yes I am familiar with the brilliant work of one Jenna Jameson.

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Ummm... Any latest word on IRON MAN?

Haha, this topic sure did fall off course.

No, no new info.

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I bet they did. They said, it's a black hero, lets give him some sub standard get up.

I liked it. I think if it was a race issue they would have just given him roller skates and a slingshot and be done with it.

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He was JOKING!! You have such a sour, and negative, view at the world.

I KNOW that people are very judgemental, about all different things.
But, if you STOP looking only at some conspiracy, you might find goodness.

Wow... can't even complete a full sentence!! I'm sorry for that.


As for my "bubble" if you look around this world, I believe that you will find that YOU are the one living in a bubble. You're like a horse, with those blinders on, and all you can see is what's in front of you. And that is a world filled only one way. It's a shame that the only things you see are those that bring up controversy and hatred.

Hey Dave... maybe we should intro him to the new board nazi. Maybe they can go at it.

They would see eye to eye on the Jews. Other than that, I think it would get really ugly really fast.

And it would be quite entertaining... really.

I shaved off the last few posts and banished them to the Flamer's Ward to salvage the thread.

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Although there is no lead attached, we have a director and now a release date of 2008.

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2008?


I'm outta this thread. I aint hanging out in here till 2008!!! Dammit.

You're banned from this thread, one year!

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aight, I will come back in one year, not a day sooner. June 30 of 2007, I will come back and post.

Dude, you're already back? You've ruined it. No soup for you. One year starts...... now.

Or, I propose a race around the world!

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The first official Iron Man teaser poster from ComicCon.

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Looks like a cartoon, kinda lame.

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I'm with you, Heck... lamola.

Casting rumor, possible spoiler-









Word is that Terrance Howard (Hustle & Flow) has been offered the role of James Rhodes, Tony Stark's best friend and would-be Iron Man/War Machine.

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And we have our Tony Stark...

From TVGuide.com:

A role at one time eyed by Tom Cruise, the big-screen's Iron Man will actually arrive in the form of Robert Downey Jr., the Hollywood Reporter reports. In the Marvel Comics character's first feature foray, to be directed by Jon Favreau and to start filming in February, Downey will portray Tony Stark, a billionaire industrialist/genius inventor who escapes an abduction by constructing and inhabiting a high-tech suit of armor.

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You know, I'm actually okay with that choice. I like Robert Downey Jr., and I think that he will be a good pick for the part.

Dunno, can Iron Man get a DUI? Or would it be a FUI?

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You're bad, Heck... truly bad!

I am the cat's meow.

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I read that the villan will be "Mandarin," some Chinese dude with magic rings of some sort.

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