Is Kellie really naive or dumb or is it an act? |
| Posted by: Lawless | | It's a total act... she wasn't THAT dumb in the auditions. She was just a sweet girl. Now, she's just acting plain DUMB, and ignorant too. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: illuminate | | I said she's dumb.... I don't think she's STUPID, just dumbish. Like Jessica Simpson dumb, more than naive, but spacey.
In a small way, i hope it's an act-for her sake. She bugs me so much I don't like watching her when she's on.
her and paula should hang out. they'd understand eachother quite well i'm sure. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | Her and Jessica Simpson should start a show together, on seafood!  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | I voted for act. Surely she can not be a high school grad and be like this.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | And if she is... we need to have a serious educational reform in this country.
Then again, look at our President, who can't pronouce words, and trips over his tongue, because his brain won't produce thought.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: lickety_split | | She's dumb and she acts likes it. It's kinda both, acting dumb and being dumb.
I heard males love dumb women, and I believe that "some" blondes act dumb to impress guys.
Plus she may just be booksmart in school but doesn't really comprehend the world around her.

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| Posted by: CountryChick | | Okay ya all I really don't care what ya think...I do but don't. (I don't want to offend anyone.) She is just really naive...but also really innocent. She knows too much of the evils in the world around her (and I'm not saying that we should all vote for her because of her past so don't say that I am saying that cuz I ain't) and I think that is the way she deals with it. She isn't dumb...I do admit that she can be a little slow but she ain't dumb. She is a high school grad. I wish I was that sweet and innocent...and I AM ONLY 17. I at least somewhat know and understand the evils (my innocence died way too early in life)...and I think she does to but I think that is how she deals. She doesn't want to be put down so she apologizes. I understand that...well ya all might think I am reaching but maybe you won't. Seriously tell me what you think....I would love to hear your opinions on what I said. Am I reaching??? I think I might have something...well I will look forward to hearing your opinions!!!
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| Posted by: MzKitty | | She simply lacks common sense. But I wouldn't call her dumb or stupid. Why act dumb on tv just for kicks? It didn't work for Jessica Simpson and it wouldn't work for Kellie either. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: HECK! | |
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CountryChick said this in post #9 :
Okay ya all I really don't care what ya think...I do but don't. (I don't want to offend anyone.) She is just really naive...but also really innocent. She knows too much of the evils in the world around her (and I'm not saying that we should all vote for her because of her past so don't say that I am saying that cuz I ain't) and I think that is the way she deals with it. She isn't dumb...I do admit that she can be a little slow but she ain't dumb. She is a high school grad. I wish I was that sweet and innocent...and I AM ONLY 17. I at least somewhat know and understand the evils (my innocence died way too early in life)...and I think she does to but I think that is how she deals. She doesn't want to be put down so she apologizes. I understand that...well ya all might think I am reaching but maybe you won't. Seriously tell me what you think....I would love to hear your opinions on what I said. Am I reaching??? I think I might have something...well I will look forward to hearing your opinions!!!
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First, do you know her personally?
No one outside from her family and/or friends could be a true authority on the matter. All we have is what we see on television. We are talking about the persona of a pseudo-celebrity who we only know from brief interviews and vignettes. Call it innocence, naivety, credulity, lack of common sense, whatever. The bottom line is this, and it's one thing that will help everyone in life: perception is reality. Like Forrest Gum said, stupid is as stupid does.
And if you didn't care about anyone's opinion, why try to argue the point? 
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| Posted by: CountryChick | | No I don't know her personally.....I take a great interest in Psychology. It is simple psychology. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | | I believe it's an act, I just caught the show last night and the way she acts in the interviews and on stage are two different things. They probably tell her to react stupidly to anything Simon says. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: HECK! | |
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CountryChick said this in post #12 :
No I don't know her personally.....I take a great interest in Psychology. It is simple psychology. |
Ok... care to elaborate?
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| Posted by: lickety_split | |
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Inner City Blues said this in post #13 :
I believe it's an act, I just caught the show last night and the way she acts in the interviews and on stage are two different things. They probably tell her to react stupidly to anything Simon says. |
That's a likely theory.
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| Posted by: CountryChick | | I love psychology...how people react in different situations, how they figure things out. Stuff like that. Usually I am right however I have been wrong. I like to read people's emotions and guess what they are thinking. I am a very intuitive person...empathic.(Yes empaths do exist just not the "Hollywood" ones you are thinking of) You know what I mean??? I hope that answers your question.
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| Posted by: mystic | | Nah...she dumb...plain and simple.
You can see it on her face. Ryan will say something to her, and she has that blank look like she wants to get it...but its not registering.
Thats just plain stupidity. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | | I know Albermarle, or at least part of it and North Carolina and you just don't understand the North Carolina way of life. I'm here to tell you she aint dumb or uneducated but is quite naive. Also understand that her daddy is in prison and her mom, will I'm not sure but Grandpa is the adult role model. And if her grand daddy which I'm pretty sure he is, native North Carolinian she probably lived a very sheltered life. I would be curious to learn about her family.
Albermarle is about 40 miles or so from Charlotte. Charlotte is a banking city with Bank or America and Whachovia Charlotte is a big city. Get a few miles out of Charlotte then home values go down fast. I wouldn't place Albermarle as a hick town, it's a lot more prosperous than that.
Kellie is a sweet girl, remember, never been on an airplane before AI.
Another thing about NC is you find very different people in different parts of the state. Bucky is from Rockingham, will have a bit different lifestyle even though they are only maybe 50 miles apart. Fantasia from Raleigh and Clay from Charlotte. Two very different cities. Charlotte is more like living in NY or NJ or Ohio because most everyone there are transplants Raleigh is probably more blue collar.
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| Posted by: mystic | |
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Edward Teach said this in post #19 :
I'm here to tell you she aint dumb or uneducated but is quite naive. |
Naive: Lacking experience, wisdom or judgment.
I dont care where one comes from...
She lacks all three.
Why must people keep making excuses for this gal? Sure, she's cute. But lets face it, the more we keep taking people like her and making them a role model for the younger kids, then we kind of have a problem.
I have nothing against this gal. I dont know her...I can only go by what I see every week..and thats a blank look when she is clueless to what she is being asked.
She may have finished school...but she is what I consider technically uneducated...or in your words..naive. Either way..she needs experience, judgment and a huge dose of wisdom.
And if by some chance this is an act...then thats even more sad to think that she would think that it would be more flattering for her to act this way then to actually use her brain...but an act? I dont think so...
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| Posted by: HECK! | | Yeah, I've been to Harvard and my boy Will Hunting was waaaaaay smaaaaataaa than all those wicked pissa guys. Just because you've been to a town doesn't mean you know the person.
As oddly, weirdly inticing as this convo is, points are these: no one here knows her; perception is reality; stupid is as stupid does. Prove me wrong. I await to not be proven wrong. 
Watching TV programs like American Idol and their choppy interviews does not equal some kind of keen intuitive knowledge into a pseudo celebrity psyche... I promise
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | | She's in the top 8 and will surely be in the top 4. Nuff Said! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Whidden | | Even if she is dumb, it's her God given American right to be so.
Your all a bunch of elitists.
---Whizzle, friend of the Pickle, advocate for the stupid. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: HECK! | |
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Whidden said this in post #23 :
Even if she is dumb, it's her God given American right to be so.
Your all a bunch of elitists.
---Whizzle, friend of the Pickle, advocate for the stupid. |

Excuse me sir. I know the Pickle. The Pickle is a friend of mine. You sir, are no Pickle.
Or maybe you are.
Or maybe you are a Pickle apologist. You Picklepologist.
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| Posted by: HECK! | | From some lame-o website:
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VFTW has received many (many, many...) letters asking us how we can pick poor little Kellie Pickler as the worst American Idol. We've heard from people that they love Kellie's naivete and that she's just a charming North Carolina girl who doesn't know any better. We've even heard from old friends of Kellie's and her middle school cheerleading coach. Some say that Kellie is a sweet girl, but many more say that Kellie is not as nice as she wants you to believe. We find ourselves leaning toward the latter.
As many of you have figured out, Kellie Pickler is most likely putting on an act. Not many people are that ignorant (well, maybe her clone Carrie Underwood is). To us at Votefortheworst.com, it's obvious that Kellie is playing up her "oh, I'm just an ignorant country girl" routine to get votes. Miss Picker's vomit inducing antics are truly worthy of the VFTW crown. At first, we were surprised that no one else was noticing this besides us, but now many places are picking up on Kellie's lies, including a very well written piece in the blog Clyde's All Purpose Center which helped with some of our sources.
Following are some of the lies and half-truths that Kellie has been shown telling us. We've revamped this section to make it more fact based with links to information all around the Internet. We think Kellie Pickler deserves the VFTW crown for putting on such a desperate and ridiculous act, and we hope we can help her last well into the competition. Imagine how funny it would be to see Kellie outlast Mandisa, only to say, "Mayn-dee-sa? We don't have thay-em in North Carolina! Tee hee!"
VFTW is in no way responsible for the accuracy of the information given by any source... but rest assured, we aren't making this stuff up. We will continue to update this as new information becomes available. Read on and weep. Oh, and Vote for the Worst, too.
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KELLIE'S LIE #1: "I've barely sung in front of people before."
This is completely false and, frankly, we are surprised that very few people have called her on this one. Kellie has, indeed, sung in front of people and is no stranger to the stage. Eventually, she even changed her statement to "I've only sang in the shower before", which is an even lamer lie. Kellie won a county beauty pageant when she was 17 and subsequently competed to become Miss North Carolina. Oh, and her talent at both pageants? It wasn't baton twirling. Do 'Broken Wing' and 'Independence Day' sound familiar to you? And in beauty pageants, don't they wear fake eyelashes? The kind Kellie was talking about never having worn before? That's not all. Just last year, Kellie competed in a North Carolina version of American Idol called Gimme the Mike! which had a large audience. She won 2nd place after singing a bum note (Kellie, sing a bum note? Never!) and had plenty of television exposure on this show as well. She also sang at the opening of evil empire Walmart in her hometown. No matter how you slice it, that's more than just "in the shower". It's obvious that by pretending that she has never sung in front of an audience before, Kellie can use nerves as her excuse for singing poorly when that's probably not the case at all.
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KELLIE'S LIE #2: "What's calamari? What's a spinach salad? What's salmon?"
Kellie Pickler is known for saying stupid things on television. "What's a ballsy?" comes to mind. No one is stupid enough to ask that. No one except fake Kellie. We decided to do a little investigation to find out just how backwoods Kellie's home town of Albemarle, North Carolina really is. Wait a minute... JD Shuckers has salmon AND calamari on the menu. That must just be a fluke though. Let's try another restaurant. How about The Boardroom? Oh hey, it says they have spinach salads and salmon. It could just be a coincidence though. How about 304 Pontiac Pointe? They have calamari too, and they've even recently named it after Kellie. Miss Pickler has to have been to one of these restaurants at some point in her life and seen these items on the menu, if not seen people eat them. One angry North Carolinan writes in reply to EW's Pop Watch
"I'm from North Carolina and it makes me sick that this girl is representing us. Contrary to popular belief we eat salmon, spinach and calamari and we know the difference between a minx and a mink. It's amazing that while she's getting her fake tan, teeth whitened and hair done that she has never run across SALMON before.
Touché, intelligent North Carolinan. Touché.
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KELLIE'S LIE #3: "I'm just so gosh darn likeable."
Many people love Kellie because she's so likeable. We've been told by many people, though, that Kellie is no peach in real life. First, TMZ.com has reported that Kellie is becoming fairly arrogant in Hollywood, telling the chef that he's lucky be cooking for her. Bitterwaitress.com also has an account from a waitress who wasn't happy with Kellie's dinner party:
Okay, [Kellie] was with 5 other people, a couple of which I recognized as American Idol contestants and the others I didn't recognize. She was mouthy and condescending and just all around *****y. She *****ed at me because we didn't have the right bottled water, and then she sent her food back. On top of that, a crappy tip.
Sounds like someone's head is getting pretty big. Kellie is also rumored to have pissed off Paula. MSNBC reports:
“Paula is a little irked that Kellie is acting as if she doesn’t need her,” an ‘Idol’ insider told the mag. “Kellie has got Simon’s vote, so Paula feels Kellie is working Simon and not bothering with her.”
Pickler certainly has Simon's vote, as well as it seems his one gun salute. Simon is either smitten by the minx's looks or her marketability, but the so called "honest" judge has been less than honest after her performances. "How Far" was a vocal mess, yet he praised her anyway. Who knows what's going on between the two of them, but apparently it has alienated Paula.
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KELLIE'S LIE #4: "I don't know what I'm doing."
The naive act that Kellie puts on every week is starting to wear a little thin for most viewers, because it hardly seems genuine anymore. She has been repeating "I'm a mink" almost every single week just to get more attention on camera, even when everyone else tires of her antics. It seems that Kellie wasn't even naive back in high school, where PhillyBurbs.com reports her prom dress looked a little too R-rated for comfort. I highly doubt Miss "I Don't Have Much of a Lovelife" didn't know what she was doing in a barely there prom dress. Reporter Dave McGurgan states:
"The scantily-clad Pickler allegedly wore nothing more than a skimpy halter top with a low-rise, barely-there bottom to her prom. The outfit shows off what appears to be Kellie's pierced belly button, her flat stomach and her sultry, curvy teen bod. Experts agree: She's hot!"
This, my friends, is what we call a minx. The same article also has a picture of Kellie's high school yearbook, where her father writes
"Your smile, singing, and witty ways have helped me through some tough times."
I thought she only sang in the shower, though. How can her singing have helped him through hard times if she never did in front of anyone? And who would describe the Kellie that we see on television as witty? Her stupid act is anything but witty. Of course, that's because Kellie probably knows exactly what she's doing. When Kellie won the 2004 Miss Stanly County Pageant Crown, her grandfather, Ken Morton, was there to watch. Fayetteville Online has a quote from Morton, saying
“Her platform [in the pageant] was you don’t have to be a product of your environment. And that’s where she went with it.”
That's a pretty worthwhile and interesting platform. The Kellie we know, though, wouldn't even be able to pronounce the word en-vie-er-ment. And if you don't have to be a product of your environment, doesn't that include acting like a hick on television because you're from North Carolina? Kellie seems to have completely discarded this advice to play up that she is merely a product of her environment. Her tough, tough (daddy's in jail), very tough (mom left me), oh so tough (did I mention dad in jail?) environment. Finally, Kellie also admitted during a show clip that she didn't know who Stevie Wonder was, but prior to that she started crying, tears streaming down, when Stevie first walked into the room. So either she's lying about knowing who Stevie is or she started crying for absolutely no reason. Ether way, that's pretty dumb.
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KELLIE'S LIE #5: "I should be the American Idol because I deserve it."
Miss Kellie Pickler has reminded us at every turn that her mother left her, that her father is in jail, and that she lives with her grandfather. Isn't it a bit presumptuous to say that you "deserve" something that everyone else is working for as well? Brenna Gethers lost two fathers in her life, and Idol did not play up this story one bit. Neither did Brenna. Melissa McGhee also had both of her parents in jail, and she never brought it up on the show either. Interestingly enough, Melissa made a bit of a reference to this in her biography on the official Idol website, but it was then taken down. Kellie's information remains intact. Kellie also seems to have had some good fortune in her "difficult" life. Jade9, who blogs on the official Idol message board, writes about a comment sent to her
Did any of you know she went to an expensive dance school? She has won the Miss Stanly County Pageant which includes scholarship money, endorsements, advertising spots and many more incentives.
If that's right, then it seems like Kellie isn't as down on her luck as she wants us to believe. Kellie also decided to fly her favorite hairstylist from Charlotte in to do her hair for country night. Her stylist's price per cut? $300. If Kellie can afford that, she's better off than most of us.
Well, folks, there you have it. You may not believe some of this, but almost all of it is well documented, and some of the information cannot be disputed. Kellie has lied about her singing experience, she has been caught lying numerous times about other topics, and she is definitely laying it on thick for the viewers. Not even Kelly Bundy was this dense.
All of this leads us to one conclusion: Kellie Pickler's true self will have to eventually come out, either on the show or in real life. So keep voting for Pickler, because Idol deserves this fake girl if they continue to pimp her made up stories even after obviously doing background checks on her. Oh Kellie, did you think we wouldn't find out? Maybe she doesn't deserve half the credit we're giving her after all.
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| Posted by: HECK! | | I found a pic of her on that Gimme the Mike! show. So she at least fibbed about that. Or maybe there was so much going on in that brilliant mind it just slipped.
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| Posted by: CountryChick | | WOW!!! I didn't know that...whoever said that her real side would come out on the show or in public. That is so true. But if it isn't true then obvisously it could be a lot of people just trying to get attention...as for the competitions that she sang in...that seems true...I know you people are expecting me to defend her but I don't think I can this time. The stuff about her personality and the way she acts are questionable...for that we shall see how the rest of her stay on AI is... As for her competitions...what a dumb thing to lie about...you would think that she would WANT people to know that.
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| Posted by: HECK! | | Same ol' typical Picklepologist rhetoric. Keep pounding Pickles. 
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| Posted by: AZIdolfan | | ACT
I think Kellie is a long shot to win the title, maybe one chance in four or five, but if she doesn't knock off the act, she'll be throwing any chance she has away. A lot of fans, I think, are turned off by that.
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| Posted by: Lawless | | I totally agree, AZ... people don't like the way that she's ACTING! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Delta | | She doesn't have the brains to act that dumb "snot rag" comeon she is a country gal. Maybe she is annoying but thats her real annoying self
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American Idol: Season 5 Forum: Is Kellie really naive or dumb or is it an act?
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