Russian Communist leader sees U.S. behind bird flu outbreak

Medicine, Science & Technology Forum

MOSCOW - Russian Communist party leader Gennady Zyuganov has blamed the United States for the spread of avian influenza, or bird flu, in a number of European countries, including Russia.

"The forms of warfare are changing. It's strange that not a single duck has yet died in America - they are all dying in Russia and European countries. This makes one seriously wonder why," Zyuganov said at a press conference at the Interfax main office on Tuesday.

Zyuganov said that he has good knowledge of war gases as he dealt with them during his army service.

"I tested all kinds of war gases at a range myself," he said.

Asked to be more precise as to whether he believes the bird flu outbreak could be a deliberate attack by the U.S., Zyuganov answered positively.

"I not only suggest this, I know very well how this can be arranged. There is nothing strange here," he said.

Source: Interfax (Russia)

Talk about paranoia. Yeah, the U.S. wants to eliminate Russia's pigeon and duck population so they don't fight against us in WW3. If there was some sinister plan the U.S. would use something that targeted humans?

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this is just retarded.

This is some funny stuff.

Obviously this guy hasn't access to the news for the last 1-1/2 years.

This is obvioulsy a crazy statement but it is the mindset that a lot of the older people have I am not saying that all Russians think like thie because they don't but there is amongst the older generation a distrust of America and possibly amongst some older Americans a distrust of Russia. Do you think the end of the cold war meant an end to the way some people felt.

I think any American with common sense is wary of Russia and China...

Well I will give you China but Russia nah they don't pose a significant threat anymore. You only have to look at the Eatern european countries that have abanodoned Russia to join the EU with Ukraine being the most recent, plus Russia have thier hands full in Chechnya. I admit that they are a permenant member of the security council and a member of the G8 but these are based on past power not present.

I think C.A.T.S are responsible for the bird flu pandemic. Here's why:

Here is an excerpt from a confidential memorandum explaining it all-

Garfield Sylvester president for the Society of Cats came of with a plan to eliminate the worlds population of birds by spreading propaganda that birds are vessels carrying bacteria and viruses dangerous for mankind.

In a secret dossier found recently, it has been proven that Bird Flu as we know it is just a way for CATS to exercise their superiority over birds and human-kind alike. ( You know how sneaky those felines are....) Not getting the respect or attention the CATS have joined forces to overthrow the government in USA and Europe. This will lead to the destruction or systematic genocide of birds worldwide.

Once this plan is complete, their next target is said to be RODENTS, followed by FISH!

Those CATS are sneaky little bastards indeed!

Foghorn Leghorn,
President of A.F.O.W.L ( Against Felines Of World Leadership)
Alabama

Reading the above article, it looks like this is some fringe party Communist, that is stirring the pot, trying to get party votes.


Like when the minority party leader in our country tries to stir up junk on the President. Outside of the mainstream, but playing to their base.

The Russians did the same thing in Africa about AIDS. They know most educated people will dismiss these allegations but in developing nations with large uneducated populations it is used to fan anti-american sentiment. Many in Africa still blame the USA for the aids epidemic.

It is alarming to me, though not surprising, that our government does not at least make a formal complaint to the Russians regarding this propaganda. You can bet the accusation will get headlines in those nations being hard hit by avian flu.

This isn't a joking matter.

I would be as worried about the countries that have one nuke.

I am inclined to believe the C.A.T.S. theory. My own cat is a member. He resents the freedom of the birds with their mocking little "tweets". I asked him if his group was behind it, and he said "ROAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" in a laughing type of tone.

Yes but think how bored cats would be if they had no birds to stew about. Seriously, I don't know how likely this is to become a human pandemic, but I am a little nervous about the fate of the birds. My favorite are the Crows.

If the bird flu threat deepens, the question of how to deal with it will become very controversial.

Crows thrive on controversy, so they are just bound to find themselves at the center of the bird flu debacle.

Well the flu has jumped to humans, it's just a matter in how it mutates. Viruses, much like bacteria mutate very readily, so a resistant strain with humans as carriers isn't out of scope. The bad thing about this flu is that it has a kill ration of 50% so if a pandemic were to occur, there'd be many deaths. I believe the 1918 Spanish flu was traced back to birds, not a good thing.

Well a mutation is what has a lot of governments and WHO very worried because the believe that a new pandemic would be a lot worse because lately viruses have tended to be a lot more resistant to treatments and that is the fear. Scientists say that when it happens all they need is sample of the human to human virus and they can produce a cure but they don't know how the long the cure will last before the virus become resistant.

I think it was USA1 who said that nobody will be ready for a human to human transmission of H5N1 however the US and the UK are apparently as ready as you can be for this possibility. both copuntries have the drugs or have ordered the drugs, the army and other emergency servoces have been told the role they have to play ( keeping as many as possible indoors) and the groups of people that must get priority drugs in the event of an outbreak has been decided.

Maybe USA1 is rioght meaybe we won't know how to react perosnally I hope he is wrong but my head tells me he is maybe right.

If it happens stay in, stay alone and just sit it out until some help arrives, that's what I will probably do. Oh and avoid trips to KFC

My understanding is that there is no effective vaccine yet for bird flu. But it is not a big problem because the only people who are catching the disease so far are people who were in close proximity to poultry that had the disease.

The big fear is that the virus will mutate and acquire the ability to transmit human to human. If this occurs, we have a BIG problem that might kill thousands of people before it can be gotten under control with a vaccine.

So the big question is whether or not the virus will mutate to a form that is capable of human-to-human transmission. Nobody has the answer to that question. It may never happen or it may happen tomorrow. Beware of anybody who speculates on the probability.

Well there is no current vaccine for H5N1 from bird to human and I would doubt that doctors are rushing to find a cure. However doctors and scientists and pharmaceutical have constantly said that if the virus mutates to infect human to human all they would need is a sample of that virus and they could instantly create a vaccine, the pharmaceutical groups have also agreed the in the case of human to human transmission and a vaccine being created they would all work together to get as much vaccine as possible to the public.

Russia is a member of G8 because it supplies many european countries with natural gas. Western leaders have to disregard many troubling signals coming from Russia, especially when it comes to democracy in terms of freedom of speech, personal safety, political freedom, as well as corruption and ongoing war, in the name of own energy security. However, Russia poses no threat whatsoever to US or EU or any other country at the moment. Economically it's still very under-developed and militarily they stand on their knees, frankly. They do have a lot of nukes and they have developed new nuclear bombs in the last few years. Those bombs and missiles used with them are able to penetrate the newest american missile defense systems, because one missile breaks into several smaller ones, each of them carrying a warhead and confusing defense systems. Building new warheads after losing in Cold War is kinda stupid but it really is not, if we take certain military officials' personal needs into account. Reforming the military means losing the stable flow of illegal income, which is made possible by current situation. Any positive development is against the wishes of generals, who, for example, want to use the soldiers, who are basically deprived of all rights for 2 years, as a free labour force and source of bribes from parents who dont want their children to go thru hell. It is easier to blame america for this and that (note: "america" is not capitalised because i am referring to an abstract entity representing an enemy, chief among which is US itself) than admitting problems and trying to deal with them. Thanks to "enemies", these generals keep asking more money from the government, which is ofcourse stolen. Note: i heard about Pentagon not being able to provide proof of payment for a lot of expenses it has incurred, i have read an article somewhere, i think it was CNN. Bush has increased the military spending to record highs in the name of terrorism, for example, US has recently started using it's 12th seacarrier, which as far as i know is absolutely NOT needed to fight Osama Bin Laden, rather destroy whole armies, and even in that sense it backfired, because China has announced it's plans to build it's own carriers as a response to ongoing news from Pentagon.
Back to Russia: in short, there is something to worry about but not in the area of national security of western countries.

Juko! You're back! (or have you quietly been here all along?) either way, it's good to see you posting!

Well I have laready said that IMO it is just the mindset that older Russians have, I would be shocked if the majority of Russians even paid any attention to this claim.

We should remember that this guy is not a " Leader of Russia" just an opposition MP I mean if Putin or Putins party had said it that would be a diffrent case completly.

Hi Sayzak, hi all. I have been busy for the past few months, not much free time to browse the net. I did read thru Inreview a few times but never had a chance to post.
I agree with logdebo, the communists are desperately trying to gain political support and their idiotic claims dont affect Russia-US relations in any way.

Welcome back

-HECK!

Well we know an MP is a member of Parliment but being an MP does not make you a leader of the country the job is the PM. You see you appeared to be getting your MP's and PM's mixed when you typed this:

Thanks for setting me straight... I was thinking an MP was an elected leader.