| Posted by: malcolm xx | | In 1969, a South Central L.A. community place was set up, called Community Relations for an Independent People. Black youth were attracted to center to hang out. Acronym was develop to represent center: C.R.I.P.s. Black Panthers was main influence in early days.
1973, they published a CRIP Constitution and defined themselves as: Community Reform Inner-Party Service (CRIPS). Members, many whom had come from prison , pledged to serve their people , instead of hurting and exploiting them.
Sanyika Shakur asks rhetorically, " Had we not begun as predators of New Africans (Blacks) would we have been allowed to last this long?" He announced , in 1993 the reformation of the CRIPS into the Clandestine REvolutionary Internationalist Party Soldiers. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nikiTa | | No, Malcolm.
CRIPS does not stand for Clandestine REvolutionary Internationalist Party Soldiers.
They were named CRIPS because of their particular style of violence.
They would take golf clubs and beat people into being 'crippled.'
Not a very flattering term. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Why start a thread trying to portray a bunch of street thugs who have contributed NOTHING to society in a better light? They deal drugs, they vandalize, they murder. Great bunch of guys.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: HECK! | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #1 :
In 1969, a South Central L.A. community place was set up, called Community Relations for an Independent People. Black youth were attracted to center to hang out. Acronym was develop to represent center: C.R.I.P.s. Black Panthers was main influence in early days.
1973, they published a CRIP Constitution and defined themselves as: Community Reform Inner-Party Service (CRIPS). Members, many whom had come from prison , pledged to serve their people , instead of hurting and exploiting them.
Sanyika Shakur asks rhetorically, " Had we not begun as predators of New Africans (Blacks) would we have been allowed to last this long?" He announced , in 1993 the reformation of the CRIPS into the Clandestine REvolutionary Internationalist Party Soldiers. |
Huh?
There have been many different explanations for the origin of the name of the gang:
The most well-known theories tie the current name with "crib" or "crib street" (alluding to an actual street or the young age of the members at the time of the gang's founding).
Crip or crib originates from the carrying of a cane or stick — Los Angeles Times 14 April 1992: "Word spread about the tough-looking young men, who some said carried canes and walked with a limp — cripples, or crips, they were called for short."
Mis-pronounciation of "The Crypts."
The rumor that to get initiated into the gang, a person had to have crippled someone.
Some alleged backronyms for the name include:
Community (or California) Revolution In Progress.
Community Resources for an Independent People
Crip meaning cradle amongst the grave. C standing for Cradle, RIP standing for grave
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| Posted by: Lawless | | Very interesting, Heck... thanks for the information!
I knew that they didn't start out as a good "gang" but it's nice to get some history on it all. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nikiTa | | I'll have to check with an old buddy of mine...Toray Pyles and his twin brother...
They brought the CRIPS to Denver....
The reason I didn't get a golf club to the head back in 1988 when they were in my 'hood' busting people in the head is because Toree had a thang for me. Poor boy. Poor poor boy. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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fuscia said this in post #3 :
Why start a thread trying to portray a bunch of street thugs who have contributed NOTHING to society in a better light? They deal drugs, they vandalize, they murder. Great bunch of guys. |
Go to library or book store and do resaerch.
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #8 :
Go to library or book store and do resaerch. |
She don't have to research it. She lives in a part of the country where the Crips do violence to each other every day. She sees it on the news, in the paper.
Some dusty old book on a shelf full of propaganda isn't going to change peoples minds when they have to live with the cold hard facts everyday.
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Watch the news. We see it all the time. There are Crips here in San Diego, and trust me, they are not a bunch of boy scouts. They are murderous thugs. The contribute nothing to society. Nothing. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Mr. F | | You seem to be all caught up in the past Malcolm. Instead of posting about the crips of yore why not do some research on the modern breed? Heres my suggestion, get lots of red clothing and walk around Compton late on a friday night, the local crips will likely introduce themselves. If you survive, please post of your experience, Im sure we would all find it enlightening | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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fuscia said this in post #10 :
Watch the news. We see it all the time. There are Crips here in San Diego, and trust me, they are not a bunch of boy scouts. They are murderous thugs. The contribute nothing to society. Nothing. |
Every effect has a cause. History is obviously not important to you and your peers.
CRIPS have history. Do you all want to know?
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| Posted by: fuscia | | So are you trying to justify gangs that sell drugs, hurt innocent people and ruin neighborhoods? Nothing justifies that. They are a blight that should be wiped out by the authorities. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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fuscia said this in post #13 :
So are you trying to justify gangs that sell drugs, hurt innocent people and ruin neighborhoods? Nothing justifies that. They are a blight that should be wiped out by the authorities. |
The biggest Gangsta(Bush) on the planet, plays golf while major city is flooded; illegally spies on us; illegaly invades countries for oil; ignores Constitution; does buisness( seaports) with country said to have played major role of 9/11; made presidential election joke....ect.
You and peers justify this gang daily.
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #12 :
CRIPS have history. Do you all want to know? |
Nope.
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| Posted by: fuscia | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #14 :
The biggest Gangsta(Bush) on the planet, plays golf while major city is flooded; illegally spies on us; illegaly invades countries for oil; ignores Constitution; does buisness( seaports) with country said to have played major role of 9/11; made presidential election joke....ect.
You and peers justify this gang daily. |
absurd to compare a President, and I am no fan of his, to a bunch of uneducated crack dealing thugs. Tell me Malcom what do they do for the community? Do they teach about how wrong it is to steal? Vandalize? Murder? OR how about teaching them not to father children out of wedlock and abandon the mothers? Hmmm? The Crips are roaches. Plain and simple.
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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fuscia said this in post #16 :
absurd to compare a President, and I am no fan of his, to a bunch of uneducated crack dealing thugs. Tell me Malcom what do they do for the community? Do they teach about how wrong it is to steal? Vandalize? Murder? OR how about teaching them not to father children out of wedlock and abandon the mothers? Hmmm? The Crips are roaches. Plain and simple. |
These are human beings born the same way as us. They eat,sleep, laugh and cry like any human. They have mama and daddy like you (and peers). Does your god create murders and roaches?
What made these human beings go wrong? Afraid to discover answer?
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| Posted by: Vito9 | | Nobody in their right mind is going to feel sorry for gang members. The Crips should pull themselves up and stop blaming other people for their problems. Any one who sells hard drugs or steals purses, etc. are not good human beings - they've lost all self-respect and respect for humankind. Why would you support gang members? They would not support you. In their world, it is every man for himself. By the way, Malcolm, I wonder if you know the history of your namesake, Malcom X? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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Vito9 said this in post #18 :
Nobody in their right mind is going to feel sorry for gang members. The Crips should pull themselves up and stop blaming other people for their problems. Any one who sells hard drugs or steals purses, etc. are not good human beings - they've lost all self-respect and respect for humankind. Why would you support gang members? They would not support you. In their world, it is every man for himself. By the way, Malcolm, I wonder if you know the history of your namesake, Malcom X? |
He would look to find source of promblem befor criticizing.
Finding out why something happens doesn't mean you are defending it.
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| Posted by: fuscia | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #17 :
These are human beings born the same way as us. They eat,sleep, laugh and cry like any human. They have mama and daddy like you (and peers). Does your god create murders and roaches?
What made these human beings go wrong? Afraid to discover answer? |
I think lack of parental supervision and morals. My parents taught me that it is wrong to steal and kill. They would have reigned me in if I ran amok.
God creates us all with free will. People who sink to such lows do not follow His word. I do not feel sorry for people who take the easy way out and exploit others for their own gain. People have been struggling with poverty for centuries and the vast majority do not become immoral killers.
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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fuscia said this in post #20 :
I think lack of parental supervision and morals. My parents taught me that it is wrong to steal and kill. They would have reigned me in if I ran amok.
God creates us all with free will. People who sink to such lows do not follow His word. I do not feel sorry for people who take the easy way out and exploit others for their own gain. People have been struggling with poverty for centuries and the vast majority do not become immoral killers. |
Why is there lack of supervision? Like Bush, you are trying to make things black and white. What about the criminals with parents like yours? Columbine kids had good parents? scott erikson? andrea yates parents were moral but still killed her 5 children ? Hitler's parents are free from citicism? Look at your president.
find out why parents are immoral and stop relying on simple cliches for opinion. not asking you to love them. continue with your ignorance
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| Posted by: mystic | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #21 :
Why is there lack of supervision? Like Bush, you are trying to make things black and white. What about the criminals with parents like yours? Columbine kids had good parents? scott erikson? andrea yates parents were moral but still killed her 5 children ? Hitler's parents are free from citicism? Look at your president.
find out why parents are immoral and stop relying on simple cliches for opinion. not asking you to love them. continue with your ignorance |
There are many times that I disagree with you Malcolm...in this particular post, I actually do agree with you. Good parenting doesnt mean kids turn out good. Many criminals have had good parents.
Its not always the parents....
There are many issues to look at. Many kids are easy to follow the lead of other kids in order to be accepted, and this could be one issue. Another issue could be that the some of the kid/kids have some psychological issues already in place.
I know of a gal and she is a great parent. Her daughter is bi-polar, and if she does not take her meds then she starts doing destructive things. Does this fall back on her mom? No, I dont think so...its a genetic disorder. Does this little girl hang out with people who dont have her best intentions in mind? Yes, she does...and thats a prescription for problems later in life.
Now...if you are saying that the bloods and crips are out to do good for society, then I disagree with you. They may have started out with good intentions, but some of the people invited into their group have not turned out well.
Do I understand the point of the Black Panther Party...absolutely. Yet again, however, that was in the 60's. Things were different for African Americans during that time. as a black man in the 60's, I dont blame him/them for not wanting to fight in a war for a country that didnt support them all the way.
This is 2006 however, and things are not the same as they were back in the 60's.
Times are different, and since the early 1970's Crips are plain useless. they are into drug trade and riots and they rule their area. Mess with them and consider yourself a marked person.
And please...dont tell me to go looking for sources or do research. My research is complete on these types of gangs...I know all too well about "who they are and what they are all about."
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| Posted by: fuscia | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #21 :
Why is there lack of supervision? Like Bush, you are trying to make things black and white. What about the criminals with parents like yours? Columbine kids had good parents? scott erikson? andrea yates parents were moral but still killed her 5 children ? Hitler's parents are free from citicism? Look at your president.
find out why parents are immoral and stop relying on simple cliches for opinion. not asking you to love them. continue with your ignorance |
but children are more likely to turn out to be productive members of society if their parents are very involved with their lives. How many Crips come from single parent homes? You can not discount having a strong family life.
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| Posted by: Mr. F | | I keep waiting for you to defend the crips Malcolm. So far all you have done is attack Colombine kids, Scott Ericson,Hitler, and Bush. People are attacking the crips so defend them, or can you? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: mystic | |
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fuscia said this in post #23 :
but children are more likely to turn out to be productive members of society if their parents are very involved with their lives. How many Crips come from single parent homes? You can not discount having a strong family life. |
There are many single family homes and their children turn out very well. There are many single parent family homes where the children dont turn out well. Sure, the single parent not involved with the kids might have a problem with that child later in life. Chances are that this is the majority, but not always the case.
BUT there are many kids that turn out fine but having a single parent doesnt mean that the kid is destined to be a problem. There are many tow parent families where kids are problems.
Strong family life does help, but it isnt always the answer.
To me, the problem isnt just family. Too many kids lean on their friends and follow their lead. We all are guilty of that.
The real question is how many of the people in the gang came from poor families? Many poor familes have strong religious values...but the places they live in are poor areas and the kids from those places see what others have in nicer areas. When they get into gangs, its a substitution of families (for whatever reason they want a substitute family..and many of them probably had parents (single or together) that were strong), or the chance to make good money from a drug trade in hopes to have what they see others having.
In a way I understand what Malcolm is saying....to blame the parents isnt always the answer...especially when many bad children have come from good family homes. Not to say that this isnt the fact in many cases, but not always the fact.
Why: People join gangs for several reasons:[ii]
· 1.) To Fill a void caused by their broken families
· 2.) To Receive Acceptance, Love, and/or Appreciation
· 3.) To Follow the family tradition of belonging to a gang
· 4.) To Maintain a strong sense of ethnic identity that they feel society erodes and devalues
· 5.) To End the hopelessness associated with poverty by illegal money making endeavors
· 6.) To Fulfill the need for protection that results from fearing another gang
· 7.) To Follow the glamorous life Hollywood portrays: Being in a gang is cool!
· Females are usually more gang associates than gang members (typically girlfriends, go-fers, sisters, or wives of gang members); female gangs do exist but are fewer in number.
Boys and girls join gangs for many reasons. They may feel a need to belong to a peer group or a “substitute family.” They may need protection from an abusive family, or from other gangs. They may want a feeling of pride in their culture, their language, or their neighbourhood. Some people join gangs because they want money and power. Others join because a gang is an outlet for hostility, where crime and fighting are praised. Still others join because they need someone to lead them. They have a weak sense of identity (Webb, 1990, p. 164).
Look at Neil Entwistle. He murders his wife and child...and where did he run? To his parents house. They are still married and had a strong relationship with their son. Being good parents doesnt mean your kid will be a good kid....we can hope, and the majorityof the time this will happen, but its not always the case.
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| Posted by: mystic | | Okay...Here is the history of the Crips: (Not sure why Malcolm is defending this trash....but oh well)
History of the Crips
The Crips were founded by Raymond Washington and Stanley Williams. Williams argued that this was after the two became fed up with random violence in their neighborhood. Law enforcement officials dispute this, pointing to the extremely large number of violent crimes involving the gang members, even in early years.
The original name of the gang founded by Raymond Washington in 1969 at the age of 15 was the Baby Avenues, derived from a gang of older boys in the 1960s, named the Avenue Boys with their turf on Central Avenue in East Los Angeles. This evolved to Avenue Cribs and then Cribs as nicknames for the age of the members. The name Crips was first introduced in the Los Angeles Sentinel newspaper in a description by crime victims of young men with canes, as if they were crippled (though there is some discussion that it may have initially been a simple spelling mistake). The name stuck.
Stanley "Tookie" Williams co-founded the gang in 1971, and started his own gang called the Westside Crips. The Crips became popular throughout southern Los Angeles as more youth gangs joined it; at one point they outnumbered non-Crip gangs by 3 to 1. In response, some of the besieged smaller gangs formed an alliance that later became the Bloods.
Contrary to popular misconception, Crip sets do not feud solely with Bloods, but also other Crip sets — for example, the Rollin' 60s and 83rd Street Gangster Crips ("Eight-Tray") have been rivals since 1979, and their rivalry is currently the largest in L.A.
Expansion
In the 1980s, Crips moved into the sale of crack, a form of the drug cocaine. It was invented by developing a cheaper process for extracting the stimulant from the coca plant. Previously, the only available form was an expensive powder, leading to the traditional image of cocaine as a status symbol for the wealthy hedonist. Inexpensive and highly-addictive crack could be marketed by the Crips to lower-income brackets.
The Crips made enormous profits from selling crack and gathered the capital to advance themselves in the illicit markets. Throughout the 1980s and 1990s the Crips developed intricate networks and a respected reputation with other gangs across America and neighboring countries.
To stem violence between the Crips and Bloods, a peace treaty was recently negotiated, most notably in Watts, the treaty being largely based upon the ideals laid forth by original Crip co-founder Stanley Tookie Williams in his "Tookie Protocol For Peace". Though violence levels have been reduced somewhat after the conclusion of this peace treaty, gangland killings and warfare persist in heavily gang-controlled areas.
Gang identification
For many years, Crips were characterized by their tendency to wear blue in order to easily identify each other. One suggested origin of the selected color is traced to the school colors of Washington High School in South L.A. A particular set of Crips, the Grape Street Crips, have been known to wear purple in addition to blue. The GSCs are seperated into three sub-sets, the nine;139th street, the Foe;134th street, and the deuce;132nd street in the city of Gardena, California and have been known to wear dark-green, the city color of Gardena, in addition to blue to show that the Shotgun Crips are from Gardena. Crips also wear blue bandanas and British Knights sport shoes (using the company moniker BK, which the Crips use as a backronym meaning "Blood Killas"). They usually refer derisively to their rival, the Bloods, as "slobs."
In more recent years, however, the Crips have begun to cease the use of colors as a means of identification, since it is likely to draw attention from police. Methods such as the use of college sport team jerseys and hats are sometimes used, but in general, what set a certain gang member claims can be determined solely by their tattoos.
Origin of the name "Crips"
There have been many different explanations for the origin of the name of the gang:
The most well-known theories tie the current name with "crib" or "crib street" (alluding to an actual street or the young age of the members at the time of the gang's founding).
Crip or crib originates from the carrying of a cane or stick — Los Angeles Times 14 April 1992: "Word spread about the tough-looking young men, who some said carried canes and walked with a limp — cripples, or crips, they were called for short."
Mis-pronunciation of "The Crypts."
The rumor that to get initiated into the gang, a person had to have crippled someone.
Some alleged backronyms for the name include:
Community (or California) Revolution In Progress.
Community Resources for an Independent People
Crip meaning cradle amongst the grave. C standing for Cradle, RIP standing Rest In Peace, a common phrase inscribed on tombstones.
Crips, hip-hop, and C-walk
Many popular rappers, in particular West Coast rappers, have close ties to Crips gangs in L.A. County. Snoop Dogg is a former member of the Rollin' 20 Crips in Long Beach (as are Warren G, Nate Dogg, and Goldie Loc), while WC has an affiliation with the 111 Neighborhood Crips in South Central Los Angeles. The late N.W.A member Eazy-E reportedly had ties to the Kelly Park Compton Crips. Recently signed G-Unit rapper Spider Loc is a member of the 97th Street East Coast Crips. However, there are also many rappers who are not members of Crips sets, yet take on traits of the Crip image and behavior because they hope to self-promote and sell records by doing so. Ice Cube has at times claimed to be a member of the Rollin' 100s Nhood Crips, even though he has no proven ties to this gang (aside from the fact that he is from the same area), and Atlanta rapper Young Jeezy has also claimed to be a Crip in some songs (also without any proof).
It is said that the popular hip-hop dance, the C-walk (Crip-walk), is meant to spell out one's set as an insult to rival gangs. On WC's song "The Streets" from his Ghetto Heisman album, he and Snoop Dogg rap about the C-walk's popularity in the mainstream
warning suburban teenagers and other non-gang members that it is a dance for Crips only.
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| Posted by: Mr. F | | I used to work with a guy that was affiliated with the rollin 60s. He used to tell all kinds of war stories with the ''8 tray''. I had no idea they were both crips, I guess he thought we all knew  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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Mr. F said this in post #24 :
I keep waiting for you to defend the crips Malcolm. So far all you have done is attack Colombine kids, Scott Ericson,Hitler, and Bush. People are attacking the crips so defend them, or can you? |
I'm not defending CRIPS. Were on the same side. Want you (and peers) to read history, not the propaganda Mystic has post.
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| Posted by: mystic | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #28 :
I'm not defending CRIPS. Were on the same side. Want you (and peers) to read history, not the propaganda Mystic has post. |
If you call that propaganda...then why dont you post something different that tells us something different.
You ALWAYS do this Malcolm. You come on...state one paragraph...and expect us to understand what your point is.
If I have it wrong...then its up to you to make us understand and make it right.
Except...you never do that. I have to tell you...when a person does the same thing over and over, and then never has anything to back up what they are saying...its doesnt give them (or you) much to stand on.
So...give yourself something to stand on. Back up your words...for once...do us this favor and GIVE US SOMETHING! Otherwise...we will just assume that you are speaking just to speak, and have no idea what you are saying.
So...we're waiting....
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | | Have you read initial post? What do you want me to defend?
My former English prof would edit your post to 1 paragragh, he doesn't allow smear or propaganda | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: mystic | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #30 :
Have you read initial post? What do you want me to defend?
My former English prof would edit your post to 1 paragragh, he doesn't allow smear or propaganda |
Heh...typical reply from you.
Cant imagine who your professor is...I imagine he is the one filling your head with the wrong message.
Why dont you tell this man to get his head out of the past and come into the reality of the present.
If you are not defending them...then what is the meaning of this? (This is the first post you are talking about.).
Sanyika Shakur asks rhetorically, " Had we not begun as predators of New Africans (Blacks) would we have been allowed to last this long?" He announced , in 1993 the reformation of the CRIPS into the Clandestine REvolutionary Internationalist Party Soldiers.
I read your first post...its a statement of some sort...and myself, like many others in here, have read this the same way. You are defending this trash...and by the quote above you are saying that without people like the CRIPS, Blacks would not have lasted this long. Correct?
And just out of curiousity...who do you think the CRIPS are killing? ONLY White people? No...they are killing mostly people of their own race.
So Im wondering...dont you think Blacks would last longer without this type of trash. I mean you are defending a group of Blacks that kill mostly Blacks.
Do you not see the irony??????? 
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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mystic said this in post #32 :
Heh...typical reply from you.
Cant imagine who your professor is...I imagine he is the one filling your head with the wrong message.
Why dont you tell this man to get his head out of the past and come into the reality of the present.
If you are not defending them...then what is the meaning of this? (This is the first post you are talking about.).
Sanyika Shakur asks rhetorically, " Had we not begun as predators of New Africans (Blacks) would we have been allowed to last this long?" He announced , in 1993 the reformation of the CRIPS into the Clandestine REvolutionary Internationalist Party Soldiers.
I read your first post...its a statement of some sort...and myself, like many others in here, have read this the same way. You are defending this trash...and by the quote above you are saying that without people like the CRIPS, Blacks would not have lasted this long. Correct?
And just out of curiousity...who do you think the CRIPS are killing? ONLY White people? No...they are killing mostly people of their own race.
So Im wondering...dont you think Blacks would last longer without this type of trash. I mean you are defending a group of Blacks that kill mostly Blacks.
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I AM NOT DEFENDING THE CRIPS. I AM NOT DEFENDING CRIPS
What if post history of KKK? Doesthat mean I defend them ? make me a member?
My post is to show todays CRIPS are not original. They started with humane purpose .
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| Posted by: fuscia | | and the KKK started out with a different purpose than they have today. Still, it does not matter. What does is that both groups are hateful and do nothing for the betterment of society. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Whidden | | Yeah, post a thread on how the kkk was started as a group with some good ideas Malcolm, then say nothing negative.
See how that flies.
It won't. Neither will this thread, which started with nothing but postive things said about the crips, then back off later in the thread and say you are not defending them.
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| Posted by: nikiTa | | "Now the KKK wears three piece suits, it's like that y'all, it's like that y'all in fact you know it's like that y'all."
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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fuscia said this in post #34 :
and the KKK started out with a different purpose than they have today. Still, it does not matter. What does is that both groups are hateful and do nothing for the betterment of society. |
I don't think burning crosses or hanging people from trees were intention of gang
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| Posted by: fuscia | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #37 :
I don't think burning crosses or hanging people from trees were intention of gang |
but drive by shootings and graffiti are.
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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fuscia said this in post #38 :
but drive by shootings and graffiti are. |
CRIPS wasn't formed for crimes done today. Read the history. how can that hurt?
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| Posted by: mystic | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #39 :
CRIPS wasn't formed for crimes done today. Read the history. how can that hurt? |
Thats true Malcolm...they formed the group as a good intention of protecting their neighborhood and wanting to be community leaders...this was in the late 60's, early 70's...as I said, a different era. Unfortunately...they never put together a program to make this work...and what? Not even a year later, they were too busy fighting with other chumps in the 'hood, and this is what set the stage for the rest of their reputation. This is what one gets for allowing low lifes to join the crowd. It was a recipe for disaster from day one.
This gang was formed in 1969 and by 1974 Ray Washington had a police record. In 1979 he killed 5 people, and then was eventually killed by another gang shortly after.
He may have had good intentions...but killing 5 people 10 years later...well, his actions speak for itself.
Im sure Ted Bundy had good intentions at a time in his life too...so what? What are good intentions, if one becomes a murderer shortly after?
Cops have good intentions...but what happens when they do something wrong? They are labeled as crap...what makes the CRIPS any different than any others that start out good but become bad?
Scum is scum...no matter how its sliced.
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| Posted by: HECK! | | The biggest tragedies are often preceeded by the best of intentions.
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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HECK said this in post #41 :
The biggest tragedies are often preceeded by the best of intentions.
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White House proves your point
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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HECK said this in post #43 :
In what way?
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IRAQ. come out of bubble
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| Posted by: Whidden | | Yes Heck. Come out of your bubble and once and for all comdemn this stupid war.
Bubble boy.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: HECK! | |
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Whidden said this in post #45 :
Yes Heck. Come out of your bubble and once and for all comdemn this stupid war.
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Go pound sand liberal lefty lefterson!

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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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HECK said this in post #46 :
Go pound sand liberal lefty lefterson!

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conservatives not able to admit their mistakes
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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HECK said this in post #50 :
Typical liberal rhetoric. Same old Europissisisississit loving mantra from America hating lefty poopy pants. You just don't get the big picture, Iraqi's are voting, can't you see that? Damn Sean Penn loving Michael Moore lefterson wannabe.
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heck!, you are very passionate about invasion. Are you citizen of Iraq? Have any family involved? Did you experience the Vietnam Era? Why do you continue to defend an ilegal war?
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #51 :
heck!, you are very passionate about invasion. Are you citizen of Iraq? Have any family involved? Did you experience the Vietnam Era? Why do you continue to defend an ilegal war? |
Malcolm, I'm sorry, but I can't believe how long you have been in this forum, and you don't seem to know what anybody thinks about anything. 
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| Posted by: fuscia | | * goes to smack a stooge out of Heck.
Don't worry Heck, I'll rescue you! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: gaboman | | HECK's always been a closet gun-toting, Yosamity Sam loving, minority hating, <insert conservative stereotype here>ing Right-winger. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | | This has got to be the most comical exchange I've ever seen... 
How could you not know about HECK? Amazing.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nikiTa | | Wow.
That's all I have to say.
Between the BAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA'ssss | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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fuscia said this in post #53 :
* goes to smack a stooge out of Heck.
Don't worry Heck, I'll rescue you! |
Is this Dick Cheney?
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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Whidden said this in post #52 :
Malcolm, I'm sorry, but I can't believe how long you have been in this forum, and you don't seem to know what anybody thinks about anything. |

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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #58 :
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You have been here almost two years, you post in the politics or 911 forums for the most part, yet you don't know what Heck! thinks about the war. It's like you don't even read any posts, you just start your threads, skim what is replied, then start more threads.
Nothing wrong with that I guess, it's just funny that you don't know Heck! is against the war. Or anything about anyone or how they think on this forum.
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| Posted by: fuscia | | WHIZZLE! I am the designated post skimmer. Don't push that one off on Malcolm. Sandy June is my back up post skimmer. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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fuscia said this in post #60 :
WHIZZLE! I am the designated post skimmer. Don't push that one off on Malcolm. Sandy June is my back up post skimmer. |
Uber Secret: I post skim in the American Idol forum.
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| Posted by: fuscia | |
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Whidden said this in post #61 :
Uber Secret: I post skim in the American Idol forum. |
BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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| Posted by: Sierradaddy | | Clear it up then, please. Who ARE the CRIPs, who WERE the CRIPs, and what GOOD are the CRIPs? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: one and only | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #14 :
The biggest Gangsta(Bush) on the planet, plays golf while major city is flooded; illegally spies on us; illegaly invades countries for oil; ignores Constitution; does buisness( seaports) with country said to have played major role of 9/11; made presidential election joke....ect.
You and peers justify this gang daily. |
I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!
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| Posted by: Loc.aka.Lockeep | | I see alot of you fools dissing "crips" on this page.....We have done alot things for the community that you dont see..... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: jwwr3838 | | Thanks for reminding me how the ******s our ruining our neighborhoods. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: lucusice | |
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Loc.aka.Lockeep said this in post #66 :
I see alot of you fools dissing "crips" on this page.....We have done alot things for the community that you dont see..... |
I just finished reading Monster, and honestly, it was amazing. I never knew where the culture came from, and while i was watching rappers on TV, it diluted and demoralized the gangster culture. I realize that in previous years it was a struggle to survive, but I was just wondering if you could shed some light on some of the things that gangs are doing to improve the community nowadays.
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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lucusice said this in post #69 :
I just finished reading Monster, and honestly, it was amazing. I never knew where the culture came from, and while i was watching rappers on TV, it diluted and demoralized the gangster culture. I realize that in previous years it was a struggle to survive, but I was just wondering if you could shed some light on some of the things that gangs are doing to improve the community nowadays. |
The form of music you speak of is Hip Hop. There are as many gansters as the other musical forms: rock & roll, country, heavy medal, opera...etc. Have you heard heavy medal? concert?
The media labeled labled a rap group called ******s With Attitude ( NWA) because they were exposing the Katrina- like conditions in then Comptom (CA) and how the police was treating Compton citzens ( remember Rodney King).
******s With Attitude are not Hip Hop. Listen to these rap arttist and then form your opinion: Tupac, Public Enemy, KRS 1, Rakim, The Roots, Nas, Jay Z, Mos Def, Talib Qali, Common, Big Daady Kane....
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