How appropriate. Close the thread after flippantly throwing accusations around about someone excluding the chance of rebuttal. This is my last post.
How ignorant must one be to think it is I who make scripture? When I point out the error, I do so with scripture. I am the messenger professors!
Sure your OPINION may be that Gods kingdom comes after 25 acts of kindness toward old people, but I will tell you that you are wrong and have no evidence to support your view. Moreover, here is what the scriptures actually say..... This obviously is not welcome here. That means that truth is not welcome here. I say that because I dare any of you to prove one single thing wrong according to scripture that I have said. You can't! Now think about how stupid you are acting. I present facts, you get your feelings hurt. Whah! No you say? Well prove it! What did I say that wasn't true? Well lets look at professor Fuscias examples
How many times must the staff tell you?
Never had a private message from staff until today(heavens-pleasant BTW), so this is yet another lie.
One-"Without the likes of her, people visiting will only see the like minded, errant, ignorant views expressed here without being held accountable, and thus be led astray. "
That's right. I don't see too many here willing to repudiate myth. Like you, they are wrapped up in political correctness and so worried about hurting their feelings they wouldn't dare tell them that idol worship is wrong according to their God. Salvation falls to the back burner over gentle understanding. That makes sense
Two: "Why can’t I be quoted correctly here?
Correct again. The place this quote came from misquoted me. You want me to prove it? Didn't think so. Incidentally, it happens all the time, so I don't see the problem stating the truth. Oh yeah, I remember...
My God’s name is Yahweh. He is the elohiym of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He is the ONLY God, so if you are not worshiping Him, you would be worshiping a false one.
Every inch of that is true and I beg you to debate me on it. I can prove it 100 times over and the inverse will be true for you. I guess inreview wants me to fall directly into condemnation of the third commandment and profess that there are many ways to god and there are even many gods- including Allah. Guess what? Never happen. You can live there if you want. I won't even visit there.
Christmas as you already know, does not worship Yahweh in any way. It is an abomination to Him. "
Once again, it is the facts that get in the way, huh? Care to debate me on this one either? Thought not. Read the scriptures and you will learn this in addition to the fact that Yahwah is intolerant of tolerance. You may even learn that tolerance is NEVER a compassionate thing.
THREE( 0 for 2 )-"So celebrate Christmas if you want. That is your choice.
I accurately told that everyone must make their own choices and are free to do so. I have told many people that I don't care if they want to worship a chair. It doesn't involve me. Just don't lie and say it is in the Bible. I thought I would have support for this line of thinking. Geez. When debating Muslims, I told them that if they would only admit that Muhammed was a terrorist as all eyewitnesses and evidence proclaim and they still wanted to follow him, then I would be fine with it. Just stop the lies!! It is telling that there was no problem with me dispelling Islamic lies but when I started talking about "our" faith, the panties got all in a bunch. Hmmm. Hypocrites? Yes, that's the word.
Just stop lying about it and stop telling children that it is affiliated with God.
HalaluYAH. That is the goal. Too bad we don't share it. Do you want to present your case that Christmas DOES have something to do with God? Didn't think you wanted to tackle that one either. Why? Because I am right, simpleton. If I am not, prove it. Can't have the truth told in the religion forum now can we?
Hmm believe as devildog does or you are worshipping a false god-flaming= Insulting
I didn't say that and you are implying many things here, and that is never a smart idea. The scriptures say ( read that again) there is one God-His name is Yahweh. Christmas has a history. Look it up. It venerates a sun god. It has zero to do with Yahweh. Can you put two and two together? You are not worshiping Yahweh by celebrating Christmas. therefore.....
Is that a nicer way to tell people? Sorry if the scriptures and history stepped on your ego.
the problem is that you do not listen.
I didn't know that was a prerequisite. Is that Really the problem Fuscia? Be honest will ya?
People attempt to post, yet you read only what you want to read and miss the entire meaning of there posts. I could site examples, but it would fill an entire thread.
Sure ya could. Well I attempted to post the facts that proved devildog wrong but, ah, but, well..., um., he wouldn't listen to them, yeah that's it.
Unlike you, I do know that I am not right about things. I admit it, and I move on.
You mean like you are doing now right?
You on the other hand have to be right.
Really? So I am prideful? How astute you are from your location to judge my person. I judge a person's words. There is a difference, ya know.
The entire staff sees the attitude you project on this board.
Are you authorized to speak for the entire staff. Oops again Huh?
people reading your posts and saying "That is why I will not post in there. The guy is self-ritgeous and rude.
I have to take your word for that since every letter like this had to be sent to Fuscia as I have NEVER seen something like that posted. And since I have exposed many errors in your accusations so far, don't be offended if I don't believe you. Actually I don't care if you are. My integrity is not the one in question here. Furthermore, I can't help how someone responds to truth. If I don't like what someone says, I prove them wrong. What a concept.
Right. Second time and it's all us.
I am guilty of telling the truth. I have begged anyone here to show me my errors. If you want, dig up the past and find out why I left the first time, you will discover it was because of a similar circumstance where the staff couldn't imagine the thought of being wrong. I pointed out the error and they freaked. Just like you guys. You can try to justify it by saying that I wasn't nice enough while presenting the facts, but the bottom line is you just can't handle the truth. So you get mad at the messenger. Just like a Muslim. I wonder why Yahweh hates religion .
Any member that can be civil is welcome at INReview.
Facts are optional. It's all about like minded bliss. Wha hoo
Debate is saying why you believe what you believe.
Yeah, you are the authority on debate. How would you know what debate is? Someone says something you don't like, or goes against your preconceived notion, or just hurts your feelings, then you label it hateful and flaming, even though it is riddled with facts and you can't refute it. Genius.
You cross the line when you proclaim damnation on others or clain to know their intent.
Your words are idiotic and untruthful. I say what Yahweh declares an abomination and I have NEVER claimed to know one's intent. Do you even think before you type? Enough is enough. My remark here is personal. I do know the difference. I studied your words and that is my conclusion after many examples you provided for me.
Thanks for ruining what would have been a great thread.
Great thread according to you would be full of lies. I won't miss this place. I have only had one purpose here since I began- to tell the truth. You can search all 2800 posts for lies if you like. I feel I fulfilled my obligation. How far would I have to search in yours?
Does the fact that I believe that Carrie was a better performer, over Bo, make ME right, and mystic wrong? NO... it means that we have different opinions.
If Yahweh said who was better I would let you know. That is when it is no longer an OPINION. I am not interested in opinions. That is why you won't find me in a forum full of them. I don't care what you think. I thought I could find welcome shelter for truth in the religious forum at least. I was wrong.
Now, should I tell mystic that she is wrong in saying that Bo is better, and doesn't know what she's talking about, etc... ? HELL NO!
Am I writing a different language? I don't want you to know my opinion because it is worthless. Scripture is not. If you think it is, perhaps you should go to the cooking threads and post that you think salt tastes better than oregano.
It's just like religion,
Oh is it? One is opinion is one is fact based on His scriptures. Yeah they are the same. This is the problem in a nut shell. You equate opinions with His word.
or ANYTHING else in life. Our opinions are our own. And to flat out tell someone that they are WRONG is, well.... wrong.
Really, so when your child says that hinduism is the way to Yahweh, you should not hurt their feelings with the truth. Sure the scriptures are clear, but it is much more compassionate to not upset them. Good grief that is ignorant.
To say, "I find that I don't agree with you, because this is what my opinion is" would be a better option.
You people just don't get it.
It doesn't matter if I agree or not. And I don't give my opinion. I give our creators'
Because then, you are expressing your opinion, and not saying, this is a fact, and you are wrong.
* pulling hair out*
That kind of behavior isn't accepted in life
sadly you are correct mostly. Truth is never popular and facts are generally not welcome in life in this age. It is the principle reason we are in the pickle we are in. I however, will not change to be like you. I am set apart.
, and it isn't accepted here at INReview.com either.
It doesn't have to be. Stop slandering me( all parties)
and I will quietly disappear.
You know I love you like a brother...and yet these Words of Paul apply in this instance:
Eph 4:14-15 so that we should no longer be children, tossed and borne about by every wind of teaching, by the trickery of men, in cleverness, unto the craftiness of leading astray, maintaining the truth in love, we grow up in all respects into Him who is the head, Messiah,
I have had to learn this here, right here on INR. And yes it was a difficult pill to swallow, but I had to learn it.
It is important to speak Truth above all else, and it is equally important to speak Truth in love....
otherwise we are a clanging cymbal.
I have mentioned to you before that our each and individual walks with Messiah are each and every one personal. To me He is foremost my Father in heaven and my Beloved. But that is because I never had a human father who loved me nor have I truly had a spouse who loved me. This may sound strange to some that my Heavenly Father is also my Spouse...but that is exactly who He is for me.
For other people He is other aspects as equally important...but I cannot define nor can I say who He is for other people.
All I can do is point others to Him and let them know that His Holy Spirit will teach them...NO HUMAN CAN TEACH US ANYTHING in regards to who Yahweh is.
And to force our personal relationship and who He means to us is ludicrous.
That is why there are thousands of denomiations and that is why people are striving within denominations....
And I cannot and will not EVER find the "Perfect Church/Assembly" or doctrine because there isn't one! (Besides the doctrine given to Paul...but today everyone has a different version of what Paul was actually saying.) All I can do is trust His Spirit to show me personally what is True and what is error. The minute I listen to another human being and them telling me what's true and what is not...I have to sift through it and ask the Holy Spirit to show me what's true in their statements and what is error.
There is only Messiah, there is only His truth...and His Word speaks Truth and this Truth speaks to us all in different ways because we are all made different, we are all fearfully and wonderfully made. And His Truth will NEVER change...but we are all different and see Him differently because He made us different.
But again, that doesn't change the fact that His truth above all....is love....
and if we choose to be "right" above showing love to others, we are a clanging cymbal...no matter how knowledgable of His Word we are.
If I speak with the tongues of men and of messengers, but do not have love, I have become as sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
And if I have prophecy, and know all secrets and all knowledge, and if I have all belief, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am none at all.
And if I give out all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but do not have love, I am not profited at all.
Love is patient, is kind, love does not envy, love does not boast, is not puffed up,
does not behave indecently, does not seek its own, is not provoked, reckons not the evil,
does not rejoice over the unrighteousness, but rejoices in the truth,
it covers all, believes all, expects all, endures all.
Love never fails. And whether there be prophecies, they shall be inactive; or tongues, they shall cease; or knowledge, it shall be inactive.
For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part shall be inactive.
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I thought as a child, I reasoned as a child. But when I became a man, I did away with childish matters.
For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know, as I also have been known.
And now belief, expectation, and love remain – these three. But the greatest of these is love.
You know I love you like a brother...and yet these Words of Paul apply in this instance:
Eph 4:14-15 so that we should no longer be children, tossed and borne about by every wind of teaching, by the trickery of men, in cleverness, unto the craftiness of leading astray, maintaining the truth in love, we grow up in all respects into Him who is the head, Messiah,
I have had to learn this here, right here on INR. And yes it was a difficult pill to swallow, but I had to learn it.
As sad as it can get we read...
“I have spread out (paras) My open hands(yad) all day (kol yowm – throughout time) unto My rebellious and stubborn (sarar – obstinate and unwilling to change, defiant, dishonest, and unstable; felonious and evil ) family (‘am – related people) who walk in a way (derek) that is not (lo) good (towb – right, agreeable or prosperous, healthy or sound), after (‘achar) their own thoughts, plans, purposes, and inventions (machashabah – contrivances, creations, cunning schemes, musings, reasoning, thinking, designs, devices, and imagination). A family (‘am – a group of related people) who constantly and continually (tamiyd) provoke Me (ka’ac – grieve and vex, anger, incense, displease, and distress Me) to my face (paniym – in My presence), who slaughter, offering sacrifices (zabach – killing living things as an act of worship to seek a deity’s favor) in groves (ganah) and burn incense (muqtar) upon whitewashed bricks (lebanah).” (Yasha’yah/Isaiah 65:2-3)
Lebenah is symbolic of things Yahweh despises. The term occurs in contexts like the tower of Babel, demonstrating the toil and futility of human effort. Mankind cannot work his or her way to God. We cannot earn His favor, bribe Him, or contribute in any way to our own salvation. Religious schemes which demonstrate otherwise are desolate, lifeless, and unforgivable deceptions.
Leben, the root of lebenah, is the Hebrew word for “making something white.” Whitewashing the truth, creating a counterfeit that appears white, covering over Yahweh’s light with the illumination of man, is profoundly displeasing to God. Masquerading as a messenger of light, Satan builds his false religions right on top of Yahweh’s relational prescriptions so that the serpent’s schemes not only appear credible, but so that they also conceal the truth. It is one of a myriad of reasons why I despise religions/deception and why Yahweh calls them “the seat of Satan.”
I will never white wash the truth and I can not change how one will receive it. Presenting truth must be an act of love. I can not view it otherwise no matter how hard I put myself in the other position.
It is important to speak Truth above all else,
Correct
and it is equally important to speak Truth in love....
I disagree. Sometimes the two can't coexists and the truth should always prevail. There are many scriptural examples to point to.
otherwise we are a clanging cymbal.
I have mentioned to you before that our each and individual walks with Messiah are each and every one personal. To me He is foremost my Father in heaven and my Beloved. But that is because I never had a human father who loved me nor have I truly had a spouse who loved me. This may sound strange to some that my Heavenly Father is also my Spouse...but that is exactly who He is for me.
Doesn't sound strange to me. I have never met my father and only saw a picture from the 60's recently. This is why He says He will be the father to the fatherless.
For other people He is other aspects as equally important...but I cannot define nor can I say who He is for other people.
All I can do is point others to Him and let them know that His Holy Spirit will teach them...NO HUMAN CAN TEACH US ANYTHING in regards to who Yahweh is.
And to force our personal relationship and who He means to us is ludicrous.
Agreed
That is why there are thousands of denomiations and that is why people are striving within denominations....
And I cannot and will not EVER find the "Perfect Church/Assembly" or doctrine because there isn't one!
Correct
(Besides the doctrine given to Paul...but today everyone has a different version of what Paul was actually saying.) All I can do is trust His Spirit to show me personally what is True and what is error. The minute I listen to another human being and them telling me what's true and what is not...I have to sift through it and ask the Holy Spirit to show me what's true in their statements and what is error.
Sounds like a good idea to me. I see if it has scriptural backing or not. Sometimes scripture even defines scripture so we can be sure we are on solid ground.
There is only Messiah, there is only His truth
That's right. His name is fred and his B-day is on lent. Wanna see if you can set the record straight without offending me? I will play the other side of this one . Even presenting the facts can't be done "with love" apparently. Sure it may sting to know you have been deceived but I feel it is the ultimate act of love to shine a light in the right direction while embarrassing religious deception. This is how I am used currently.
and it is equally important to speak Truth in love....
quote:
I disagree. Sometimes the two can't coexists and the truth should always prevail. There are many scriptural examples to point to.
devildog,
I have quoted Eph 4:14-15 and I Corinthians 13 and yet you go against scripture with your statement that is quoted above.
Now, I could hammer and hammer and hammer that home for you....but if you are hard headed, or refuse to see the Truth in the above scriptures...that is your deal....but like I was saying....
it's an individual personal walk with Messiah and only His Spirit can reveal the Truth to you...
but I will not hammer and hammer...I will bow out of the conversation gracefully knowing that only His Spirit can reveal this to you...only He can show you His Perfect Love which we all desperately need.
That's funny because I did the same by not hammering my point. I could site countless examples and could amplify those passages and set them into context to explore but I do not have the desire currently.
Against scripture? Interesting choice. I gave scripture in the last post. Eph 4:13 was in order that they might attain to the highest elevation in Christian knowledge and piety and particularly that they might not be driven to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine(4:14-16). This is the reason to be passionate Nakita.
The totality of Yahweh’s revelation to us tells us how to confront false doctrine. And this problem, and thus its solution can’t be confined to “love and serve.” If you love those polluted with Satanic doctrines you have to love them enough to serve them in the realm of the spiritual abyss in which they are trapped.
Today’s church as presented in Revelation is bland—neither hot nor cold so Yahweh spews us out of his mouth.
“I know your ergon (deeds, works, that with which you occupy yourself); you are neither psuchros (frozen, sluggish, inert, and completely attached to the world) nor zestos (boiling with passion, fervent, and zealous). I ophelon (wish) you were psuchros or zestos. So then, because you are chliaros (lukewarm, indifferent, apathetic, unenthusiastic, neutral between good and evil), and neither psuchros nor zestos, I mello (expect to, intend to, will consider it necessary to) emeo (vomit or spew) you out of My mouth.” (Revelation 3:15-16)
This depiction is designed to underscore just how intolerant Yahweh is of tolerance bread of apathy. The message is: rely on Him and be passionate or else…
Yahweh desires those who desire him in Spirit, body And mind. This becomes ever more obvious as one moves through His scriptures. He loves passionate people who do not compromise. Look at the rascals he enlisted into his service.
As for love, it's the only reason to learn and engage, Nakita. Trying to pry from the grasp of Satan, and trying to encourage people back into the arms of Yahweh, all too often earns the kind of reception Yahweh/Yahshua's prophets and apostles received. Love, like prayer, is crucial and empowering when you are in the arena. When you're in the audience, its utility is marginalized.
Far too many Christians are sitting in the grandstands--praying and loving. And that's why Yahweh seldom chose the most prayerful and loving people to work his will. He chose passionate rascals who were ready to follow his calling, who were excited to learn, and who were willing to trust him in the midst of the battle.
People aren’t to be “won.” They can choose salvation. They can choose to trust Yahshua and accept his sacrifice. But to make the right choice they must first be freed from deception—and that requires informed and rational debate—a discussion, a war of words. Once they have been freed of the false doctrine that corrupts their souls and minds, they should be shown the truth. But we aren’t to win them or convert them—only share our words and faith with them.
The "church" has lost site of the totality of its mission. We have lost the will to engage in the spiritual battle that rages abound us. It is why Yahshua vomits us out of His mouth. We have become useless.
Thanks for caring T.
Peace to all, good luck all and I only pray to celebrate together with all of you one day in the presence of our creator.
Never had a private message from staff until today(heavens-pleasant BTW), so this is yet another lie.
Blatant lie on your part. I had contacted you before when your monitor status was removed. Other staff discussions about you will not be revealed on the thread. As for me being a liar, you will be hard pressed to find a more honest person online than I am.
Me being authorized. Go to the Forum Leaders section at the bottom of the main screen. Gee, when you click on it you will discover that I am an administrator here at INReview. I do speak for the staff. Yes the staff, other than myself sees a problem. As one of the big fish, I get the unfortunate job of handling these situations once the staff makes a collective decision.
As for me having to be right, that is totally laughable to everyone who knows me. I am a very easy person to get along with, and I am the first one to step up and say I was wrong.
Usually I only venture into religion when I hear there is a problem because I find the forum boring. So I come in here when I hear about people being intolerant of others. I called you on it. You chose to do exactly what I predicted you would do. You threw a little hissy fit instead of listening and realizing that you could re-word your posts and still get your message across. It is not like you were given any warning points, although you could have for some of the things that have gone on. We made a request.
Kris gave an excellent example of what to do in her last post in the Christmas thread. If you could learn to temper the wording of your posts, then you would truly be spreading the word.
Bye.
P.S. Super Bowl champions are not world champions.
Actually, this is about much more than Fuscia coming after you, or whatever you think!!! Unfortunately, this isn't a "one person" thing. The entire staff discuss ANY problem that we have on INReview. Trust me. As an admin of this board, I can tell you that we discuss everything with the rest of the staff, whether they are mods, or sen mods. We all talk about "issues" and truly look to see if it's a one sided view, or if there is a problem! So, please... before you think that she doesn't have the "authority" to speak on behalf of the ENTIRE staff, make sure that you know the facts.
