I LOVE the Jews.

Racism Forum

It's about time for a thread like this. I'm so sick and tired of all the anti Jewish crappola I have heard over the years.


Why is it that we (and by we, I mean the white European majority), always let the minoritys stick up for themselves?


Well, I'm tired of it. The Jews are cool.


I said my two cents. I'll say more later.

I LOVE the Jews too!

My favorite One died on the cross for my sin, how could I not love the Jews?

I don't know why, but I will defend a Jew even more hard core than I will a "Christian." It's a knee jerk reaction that I don't plan on deprogramming.

I knew I could count on you being in this thread.

I really enjoy bagels.

I haven't met many Jewish people in my lifetime, but I love the way they speak and I love the way they have hundreds of stereo types depicting them.

I'm sure they're a pretty upstanding group of people.

Lets hope so!

Being that Im half Jewish, I have to say that this thread is kind of strange. Not that Im saying its wrong, but its just strange.

Though I agree that there are many people that categorize people and put them in a bad place because of their religion or race, gender, sexual choice, etc...is this thread not kind of doing the same?

I like Jews...Jews are cool...?

Well, to be honest, either I like someone or I dont. I dont base my like or dislike on someone based on what or who they are.

And lets face it....someone is now reading this at this very moment and they are not thinking very highly of me...

So, based upon that....its really hard to say that ALL Jews are cool and great isnt it? Seriously...someone isnt liking me very much right now because Ive said this...

But thats my point really. Are we still not categorizing just in an opposite manner?

Dont get me wrong, Im not trying to bring this thread down...Im just trying to make a point about putting people in categories...and really isnt it just a point that we are all human and not all humans are great.

Remember...David Berkowitz was Jewish...

fair point, mystic. If it were up to me, there'd be a "I like white folk of European descent" thread, but its beyond my power... I think

Don't know who David Berkowitz is, but I'm sure I'm not supposed to like him.

Oh that's Son of Sam's name, eh? I know him. Not well, of course

Lenny Kravitz is half Jewish. He's pretty cool.

PS. White people of European descent are not cool. That's why I like them... It's hip to be square man!

I guess I am like Mystic in that I do not give a damn what somebodys relgion is I decide on wether a peron is cool on the basis of who they are not what they are. I know a couple of Jews one is the nicest perosn you could hope to meet and I count myself lucky to call him a close friend of me and my family, but there is another guy who to be honest is a complete ******* something he did recently led me to blank him out every time he attempts to talk to us, but there are people like these guys in most major relgions.

There is a huge difference between love and like and loving and not liking what people do.

If I based my love for somone like my Jewish stepmother on the things she does or has done, things she says or has said to me....that's superficial and not love. And I would have to say that I would hate her...but I don't. Loving a person or a group of people goes beyond my personal sentiment into unconditional love.

If we all loved the people that were "nice" to us, or that we thought were "cool" it wouldn't be much of a test.

Like I said, my love for Jews is knee jerk, meaning it goes deep, and I cannot control it nor do I want to change it.

I learned a LONG time ago, you can't say anything about race, postive or negative, without someone being offended.


Just the nature of the beast. So, I knew if I did a thread, even of a positive nature, on the Jews, someone would get offended.


But, I'm to the point I don't care.


I'm just sick and tired of all the Anti Semite garbage I see all the time, so I did a post.

I didn't know he was Jewish.



I will make an exception in his case and go ahead and hate him.

there's a Jewish frat near Taco Bell.

They come in every Thursday, close to close.

They are so loud and obnoxious. I hate them.

But not because they're Jewish, more because they're a frat.

But mostly because they're so incredibly LOUD.

Well, really, I just hate everyone when I'm at work.




They must not be very devout though, because there's NO WAY IN HELL that Taco Bell beef is Kosher.

Taco Bell meat is mostly old horses and sawdust, that's why it tastes so darn good.


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Mystic said:

This has really got a discussion going. Seems very positive over all. From what I have known about people of Jewish nationality they seem like very talented people. It is interesting to talk about different nationalities and their strengths. Some traits stand out. Of course most of us are mutts and really can't put ourselves in one catagory or the other. Just the human race.

IMO, God has given the Jews talents and intelligence way above any other group of people. Because if He hadn't, even in their rebellion when they relied on themselves, they would not have endured and remained. For instance, other groups like the Philistines and the Canannites no longer exist in their "pure" form. Intermingling of races has occurred, yet there still remains a core group of Jews, whether they follow Judaism or not.

It is incredible to study the inventions in computers, medicine, defense, agriculture all from this one particular group of people whether from Israel or other countries. Not to mention Einstein was Jewish.

I think for this very reason, jealousy has aroused many people to hate the Jews. The whole "chosen race" thing is one thing, but for the other Islamic states who have only oil and terrorism as their only contributions to mankind, I can see it would tick them off to see Israel flourishing as it does by the sheer brilliance and hard work of the Jews.

I find this thread rather odd because I never considered Jewish people a race. I guess part of that comes from the fact that I've grown up in a community with a lot of Jewish people, and being rather liberal and diverse, there isn't the anti-Semitism you see in other places.

When I was in primary and secondary school, Jewish people just struck me as being white people. They're white, nothing more, the only difference is that they followed a different religion than the other large population in my community, Catholics. When they used to have holiday concerts (they scrapped them some time in the 1990's so we could play more challenging music), there were traditional Christmas and Hanakuh songs, no biggie, no problem, it wasn't even a debate like you see in so many other places. The idea that Jews were outcasts was only something I saw in history books.

I think where you start to see anti-Semitism and accusations of anti-Semitism is when you talk about Israel, which is something I never even looked at until I reached college. It was also in college that I saw all these white people that previously were just white people to me, trying to separate and define themselves as being Jewish and not just white people. I still remember freshman year in college when this girl was talking about beig Jewish and my exclamation, "What are you talking about? You're white. How do you even define yourself as a race?" But college is an interesting time, everyone seeks to segment more (I didn't), it's one of the places where you'll really see the segmentation of Black people into African, African-American, and Caribbean.

I know I've been accused of anti-Semitism because I've criticized Israeli policy, but I know it's all because I know where I come from and I don't even view the situation like some of the other more vocal anti-Semitic critics. The idea of even looking at someone's name and defining them as Jewish has never come into the equation for me. I don't even know people are Jewish, even knowing their names unless they tell me. I don't even look at Irish names like O'Brien and say, "You're Irish." To me, really, I just see another white person, unless of course you have an accent.

I still don't get the concept of Jewish people being a race because I wouldn't call myself half Catholic and half Anglican (which using the religion-race meter, I am). Now I understand the whole separation of the Jewish population from the greater population, this accounts for the ability to trace people back thousands of years, including the African Jews, but still that selective breeding still doesn't strike me as making one a race. Yeah, you have some genes carried through and through, but you're still the color of where you are, hence Jews from Europe and Israel for the most part are white, and the Ethiopian Jews (yes I know many were moved) are black.

I would agree with most of what has been written here but I would have to disagree that the Jews are have been gifted superior intelligence. For every Jewish person that has succeded the field of medicine, computers, defence, agriculture there is goping to be non Jewish person that has succeded as well. Fleming , Gates, USA, Orr are just a few non Jews that have excelled in the above fileds.

I've never stated Jews are a "race" per se. If you trace geneology, a Jew is someone who is a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

The "races" per se came from the lines of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Shem, the progenator of the Jews, Arabs, Persians. Ham, the Black "race." Japheth the Europeans and Asiatic peoples.

Now, it's no wonder that there would be people claiming today the Jews are a white race....Abraham was "white."
The Arabs are descendants of Abraham and Hagar (an Egyptian-Black). That is why they appear darker than the descendants of Abraham and Sarah.
The descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Esau (Jacob's older brother who sold his inheritance for a pot of lentil soup) are of a different "colour." They are more ruddy and mixture of red haired Esau---they were the Edomites. And I am not for sure if they are progenators of Persians or not, but I do believe they are.

So being a Jew is not a matter of race, it is a matter of pedigree, lineage, and geneology. The religious aspect? Some Jews follow Judaism, some do not.

By the way, I found out today that in the geneology of Jesus found in Matthew....there are 4 women who are listed. Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, and Bathsheba.
3 out of those 4 women were noted as gentile...Bathsheba was most likely gentile because she was married to a gentile and then David married her and had children by her.
Interestingly enough, these women in a patriarchal Jewish society would have been considered fodder for "tea parties" and societal shunning in our modern day world.

Tamar, after her husband, the son of Judah died, was kicked out of the family and not taken care of by Judah as was his responsibility. She was by the roadside soliticiting herself as a prostitute in order to survive and Judah picked her up not knowing it was her. He impregnated her. When Judah discovered all this, He brought her and their son back into the family and treated them with compassion..as he was responsible for her in the first place and felt bad about leaving her out.

Rahab was a gentile Prostitute who helped the Hebrew spies...and also spied for them. She is counted in Hebrews 11 as a "hero of the faith."

Ruth was a gentile married to Naomi's son. He died and she didn't run off but was brought into the family as one of their own...eventually marrying Boaz.

Bathsheba was a woman who David watched through his window every day lusting after another man's wife. David killed her gentile husband Uriah (sp?) and took her as his wife.

This solved all the mystery for me about people having a Jewish father and a gentile mother...because even Jesus had such gentile women in His geneology.

"Anyone can convert to Judaism"

True. But this does not make them a "Jew" by blood lineage? No.

My adopted grandmother by lineage is a Jew. But her parents converted to Roman Catholicism in order to escape Russian persecution.
My grandmother is a Roman Catholic.
Now, by following Roman Catholicism and as a believer in Messiah Jesus, does that negate her Jewish bloodline?
There are words for such people: Messianic Jews.

There ya go...

i love dating jews
:P

I'd date a Jew if I wasn't already married. Instead I got an Indian. Their pretty good too. (well, she is 1/64 Creek)