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Posted by: hazel_dragoneye

I have traced my family history and was shocked at what I found.

Elfriede Raubal, married my great-grandfather and together they had my grandmother in 1932.

My grandmother, whose name is Ainsley, gave birth to my mother, Paula in 1952 and then gave birth to me in 1977.

So, when I discovered who the Raubals were I was shocked out of my mind. Elfriede is the daughter of Angela Raubal and Leo Raubal. They had two other children (Geli Raubal, Leo Rudolf)

Angela is the daughter of Alois Hitler (Father of Adolf Hitler). If I count my genealogy correctly. Alois Hitler is my great-great-great grandfather. Elfriede is Adolf's niece.

Who are you guys related to that was famous in history?

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Posted by: HECK!

George Washington, I think.

Either that or George from Seinfeld.

-HECK!

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Posted by: becker

Dragon Person..

Do you look like adolph.?

Maybe a mustache?

Do you have ambitions for world domination?

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/_950/bee.gif

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Posted by: nikiTa

Adam and Eve

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Posted by: hazel_dragoneye

quote:
becker said this in post #3 :
Dragon Person..

Do you look like adolph.?


No I am not related to the Hitlers, I am related to the Raubals. I find it somewhat embarrassing that he's in my family tree. I don't look at all like Adolf, but my grandmother had the round shaped face like him.

The only relationship I have with Adolf is that his half-sister married Leo.
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Posted by: Sierradaddy

My mother's family claims to be descended from a Zulu prince who was taken as a slave and became loyal to his master, remaining with him even after he received his freedom, and moving from Virginia to Jamaica with his master, I think sometime in the late 18th century. I have no verification of that, however, and I doubt that I'll ever get it, because from what I've been told, Jamaica's records of genealogy were destroyed through fire years ago...

On my father's side, I keep hearing how we're related to a reggae singer who goes by the name of Buju Banton... I doubt that's true, but there you are...

Hazel, sounds like Adolf is your great-great grand uncle? He might only be a half-blood relation (Alois had a relationship with Adolf's mother, who is not the mother of Angela?), but he's connected on Alois' side, which means he's related to you, if this Alois is indeed the same Alois who is the father of Adolf.

In anycase, while the connection might be there and it may be valid, there's no reason to be depressed or upset. There's nothing we can do in regards to what families we are born into, be it a positive thing or a negative. My father's father married his first cousin, and while I think that's horrendous, I wouldn't be here if they didn't have the kind of relationship that I find so revolting... Catch 22...

Not quite the same, I know, but just trying to illustrate how we can neither be held responsible, nor should we take on the burdens, of our ancestors who went long before us.

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Posted by: fuscia

quote:
sowhatsthetruth said this in post #4 :
Adam and Eve


You too? Cousin! We also go back to Noah.
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Posted by: hazel_dragoneye

In my family tree, I feel like I'm split in two. I'm German on my mother's side, but I'm Scottish on my father's. Its strange.
I'm constructing my family tree now. I have three nephews and one niece.

If I constructed it now, It would look something like this:

Mother's side:
Great-Great-Great Grandmother : Franziska Matzelsberger
Great-Great Great Grandfather : Alois Schicklgruber (Hitler)
Great Great uncle : Alois Matzelberger (Hitler)
Great Great Grandmother : Angela Hitler
Great Great half uncle : Adolf Hitler
Great Great half aunt : Paula Hitler
Great uncle : Leo Rudolf Raubal
Great aunt : Geli Raubal (She shot herself)
Great Grandmother : Elfriede Raubal Bathurst
Grandmother : Ainsley Bathurst
Granduncle : Chisholm Bathurst
Mother : Paula Bathurst McAllister
Father: Cory McAllister
Daughter(s) : Sally (b. 1973) Melissa (1975), Eleanor (b.1977) (This is me)
Son(s) : Everett (b.1980)

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Posted by: Whidden

On my mothers side, the name was Kennedy, but it got changed over to Canada later,

because of anti Irish crappo stuff going on.

ANYHOW, we always thought we was kin to the whitehouse Kennedy's in some far off way.


But we can't prove it.

So I should just shutup now.

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Posted by: nikiTa

Besides Adam and Eve....and Noah....

I really have little clue at all being adopted.
I have tried and tried to find out more...and am stopped hard at every track and so are the others invested in researching this. It's strange.

But from the very Irish name of Nora B. Freeman (I stole a document from my adopted mother for this info) from Missouri (or I have been "told")....

I can safely say I am related to The Edge, guitarist of U2.
The physical resemblance is uncanny, we both are talented guitarists (although the Edge is the best guitarist in the entire world and I pale in his compariston), he wears a John Elway jersey during his concerts, and most importantly, we both take sexual pleasure in the collection of data (as Bono says of the Edge).
Really the only difference is that I have hair on my head.

Please PM me if you are Nora B. Freeman or know of her whereabouts. According to fable, she would be 60 years old.

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Posted by: becker

I am really Nora B. Freeman incognito.

Good to hear from you.

Call me.

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Posted by: Whidden

Becker, make SWTT eat her beans.

And clean up her room. It's filthy.

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Posted by: becker

**** is working again.

They didn't even check her messy rooms.

So much for Employer discretion.

Beans is defnitely the cure for all ills.

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Posted by: nikiTa

quote:
becker said this in post #12 :
I am really Nora B. Freeman incognito.

Good to hear from you.

Call me.


What would you like me to call you???
quote:
**** is working again.

They didn't even check her messy rooms.

So much for Employer discretion.

Beans is defnitely the cure for all ills.



This is one little detail they must have overlooked in their investigation of me.

Since some of the "guidelines" (I asked for the "rules" and they gave me "guidelines", go figure ) are that we can have snacks and drinks, drinks must have caps, we cannot eat lunch at our desk, however.
Also, all drinks must not remain on our desks after our "shift." All papers must be put away at the end of our "shift." When we leave our desks to go poddy, break, lunch...we must turn our paperwork over so that only the blank side shows.
These are the best:
We must treat the other xxxxx's with respect and dignity at all times.
We cannot read our co-workers email.
We must respect the other xxxxx's space.

When my manager walked by and saw me cleaning my "space" with the environmentally friendly cleaning solution they provide...she just gave a big smile. So, perhaps, she does know my house is a mess, but is happy to know she is influencing me in a good way.

She also told me: "In your last job, you had to be combative, you had to say "no." Here, we say "yes" and let the chips fall where they may and let the others sort it all out.

This is the perfect job.

And I can eat lentils and rice for days!!!!
Lentils, my favorite food group. Perhaps I am one of those Irish Jews? Ya think???


quote:
Whidden said this in post #13 :
Becker, make SWTT eat her beans.

And clean up her room. It's filthy.


Oh, so you are the one who reported me.

Fine, I still love you bro.
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Posted by: Whidden

quote:
sowhatsthetruth said this in post #15 :


Oh, so you are the one who reported me.

Fine, I still love you bro.



I'm the RATT! The ratt narc.


---Whizzle, right wing conservative who may be related to the most liberal family in America, the Kennedys'.
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Posted by: nikiTa

And possibly Irish Catholic to boot!

By the way Kennedy is my favorite president.

---SWTT, cousin of the Edge background singing, "It's a Beautiful Day"

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Posted by: hazel_dragoneye

I'm definitely German- Scottish. My name is Eleanor, can't you tell?

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Posted by: becker

**** you can call me anything you feel like calling.

I have been hardened previously by being called everything on Google.

Your new job sounds fantastic.

I hope they don't expect you to work too. Just abiding by the rules is work enough.

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Posted by: becker

quote:
hazel_dragoneye said this in post #18 :
I'm definitely German- Scottish. My name is Eleanor, can't you tell?





One should never be judged by name alone.

Were you Franklin Roosevelt's wife?

When I was old enough to realize what my name was, I never spoke to my mother again.
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Posted by: Dekka00

I am way too paranoid to post my last name on a public forum.

However, if you want to find out what my family is famous for, go to your grocery store and buy some carrots.

My last name is bastardized Dutch or something. That makes "the Motherland" Michigan for me.

I come from a long line of preachers and farmers, on both sides of the family.

I guess I'm just plain ol' American, and quite proud of it.

booyah

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Posted by: HECK!

My last name is Stinkleman. Buford Stinkleman.

I would shot myself if that was true.

-HECK!

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Posted by: dianefromparis

Hello,

I am a French author of documentary films. I am directing a film on Geli Raubal's life, for a national french cultural channel.
I would like to have more information about you and your family, if you accept to.

can contact me at: ducret @ eclecticprod. com ( without space)

Best regards,

Diane

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