Lost season two, episode one airs 9/21/05

Lost - Season Two Forum

MONKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hehe, i like monkeys....

it would be too weird if boon came back to life or something....
i wonder if that's what their talking about with the whole "familiar face" dealio

Isn't shannon the stupid girl who got amnesia? I bet she meets up with one of the others besides Eathan Rom who had her kidnapped before she escaped.

Shannon's the bratty sister who can speak and understand french only when she's not under pressure. Her brother Boone died last season. I'll bet that's who she sees in the jungle.

"the stupid girl who got amnesia" is clair

I need to check the character list thread, i done forgot all these people over the summer.

HOW COULD YOU?!?!?!

Claire was the pregnant one.

don't give Dave too hard of a time. Us 30 somethings sometimes forget stuff.

the little boy who got kidnapped is named Locke, right?

Walt

Locke- crazy hatch loving dude who was in a wheelchair

Sawer- guy Fuscia drools over every episode

Jack- doctor who looks like he could use some malox.

But the good looking Korean woman is called the "crazy french lady", right?

No Crazy French lady is the Crazy French lady- I forgot her name so I dub her that.

Sun is your hottie Korean lady.

Kate is the one that Sawyer is after

Hurley- big dude, REALLY big dude

Fuscia- saucy pirate wenchhey it's national talk like a pirate day argh!

dont forget charlie!!!

Charlie was in drive shaft. Former addict. Anyone know if he grabbed some of the heroin from the plane?

Crazy French lady's name is Danielle, isn't it?

Roger that. But they were calling her something else toward the end... Russo?

Nah. It's full of the stuff.

yea, remember last season, with the whole 3 times asking for the drugs, and he ended up burning them cuz of locke?
the french lady's real name is in the character list thing.

OFF TOPIC
does any1 else get a really nasty meaning from the band name drive shaft? or once again do i have a way sick mind?

Is there some sort of symbolism in that?

Hey, it starts in about 45 minutes for me.









Remember, this is the spoiler thread for tonight, so I will be in here in about an hour and 45 minutes and

TALK ABOUT WHAT IS IN THE HATCH.


I'm still thinkin it's crazy monkeys.

ah man, it was a stupid recap show.

the real one comes on in an hour. I was had.


I'm watching Martha Stewart, the apprentice instead.

GREAT DAY IN THE MORNING!!!

THAT WAS THE MOST AWESOME SHOW OPENING OF MY ENTIRE LIFE.


Really. No joke. It was all cool, then BOOM it got intense.


Wow.

I AM SOOOOOOOOOO FREAKIN OUT HERE!!!!!

omgomgomgomg

that desmond dude is in that hatch!!!!!!!!! like omfg! "i'll see you in another life"!!!!!! there are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too many phsycics on this show!
where's kate???????
everything in the hatch is like, 70s or w/e
i think people should listen to hurly NUMBERS ARE BAD!!
was the creature down there? i heard a roar.


ack i'm mad at this show, it's all cliffhangers

wow man.


Best ending ever too.


I am in shock,


Who thought we would find:




70's super computers. fruit daquries. Wierdo's named Desmond, that call you BROTHER and caused miracles in your past.


Electric dryers, ambiant lighting, strange magnets, record players, mystery injections, exercise bikes,

GUNS, showers, dude washing a green bowl in a sink, windows with what look like daylight in them, grafitti on the wall with strange numbers,

Walt appearing in visions all wet,

a geo-something or the other thinga majigger orb, like the one at Epcot center,



it's very rare that something lives up to the hype, this one went beyond the hype,

that Desmond dude, he FREAKS me out big time, like Eathan Rom did.

When he was talking to Jack at the stadium, before you knew he was "HATCH GUY",

I was getting all creepy feeling, like is this dude an angle or what.

See you in another life, he told Jack, after he grinned at him for 5 minutes.

Also, when he said, "You been running like the devil is on your tail", or something similar,

I got all spooked about Homer,

and rightly so.



You know, the rest of the season can suck now, I don't care. I got my moneys worth with this first one.

lol

i had to go over homework with friends and finish homework. so i couldnt watch it over and over. i'll do that this weekend for sure.

I knew they'd introduce the character in the hatch relatively early in the show. As soon as Jack bumped into that guy running the stairs like a super-athlete I knew it was him. He's injecting himself with something that makes him strong, obviousely. I'm guessing he's got more friends down there.

What is he? He obviousely believes in miracles--or makes them happen. Ironic that him, Locke, and Jack would be down there. Locke was paralyzed, Jack's patient was paralyzed, and Desmond can either see the future or dictate it.

Crazy. What a show. How they can keep this going... I can't imagine.

I was thinking the same thing. I actually maed a point to repeat all those numbers in my head. I thought I had 'em memorized but the suspense washed them away minutes later. Darn it!

So, is the show about "selling your soul" in a way? This Desmond guy helps save Jack's patient (?) in exchange for the rest of Jack's life on some island in the middle of nowhere?

I have yet to see the episode. I'm at work (dammit)...

Who is this Desmond dude, anyways? Where would I know him from? Any past episodes?

No, Desmond is new to us. But Jack had one of his flash backs and recalls bumping into this Desmond character while running to blow off steam. Desmond is the most interesting character yet. To say the least.

Wow. Just watched it. I wish I lived on the east coast so I could have watched it earlier. Shucks.

Now I'm hyper. That was one rockin start I thought it was interesting how Desmond said, "You're running like the Devil's on your back" and Jack was trying to catch him and was running like a mad man because of him, so that would kind of make Desmond the Devil, would it not?

When Shannon was looking around wildly and the camera was moving around to be her eyes, did anyone else see flashes of pink? I thought that is was skin colored, like someone would be standing there. Couldn't have been Walt, cause he's got dark skin. Someone I read something that Shannon would see Boone again, so I figured it would be a halucination like Boone had of her, but then when I saw that I was like, "Crazy! That's not Boone already, is it??!" Well, I guess not, since they never stopped the camera with the pink in view.

Oh man, it's past ten and I have to go to school tomorrow, or else I'd stay up and talk about Lost. I'll be back in the morning, I guess.

OMG! What a show! I am totally freaked out!

Desmond! Is he the devil? Did Jack pay a price for wanting a miracle for Sarah?

That 70's music freaked me out! I hate that music. Too creepy!

Who would have thought that Shannon would have a vision? Dang, I did not see that one coming. Did that mean that Walt drowned? Jack saw his dad before, and he was dead.

Too many questions! Dang, now I am too hyper to sleep. I think the whole plot tonight was a secret ploy to get people hyper enough to watchin Invasion after Lost.

When I first saw Desmond sitting there, talking to Jack, about miracles, etc... I said... "Hmmmmmmmmmmm, is this guy an angel!?" Then, Jack's patient is healed.... it's a miracle, which Jack said that she would need. Hmmmmmm, I got to thinking again, but was sure. Then, we see that he is the one in the 'hole' on the island, and I'm thinking... he's no angel, more like the devil.

My mother watched the show and loosely speculated that Desmond is gaurding some kind of gate between dimensions.

After thinking about that, I wondered... if that were somehow true, then it could explain a lot of things in a round-a-bout way. Such as the delusions... the whispering... the miracles.

Perhaps all our main characters have "other" versions of themselve's on the other side?

Did nobody see the word quarantine on the hatch? On the INSIDE of the hatch which would indicate that the ISLAND is quarantined, not what's in the hatch. And if it was only him in there then why would he need the word. The word must be there for other people. And the hatch was sealed from the INSIDE. Of course it was a hatch not being used for a long time. And what is he doing there from Jacks past.

The magnetism could either be occuring naturally (which would signify lots of magnetic shift) or motorized equipment.

I didn't record it so I can't go back to review.

And my wife pointed out that the lady in the hospital married Jack.

I still think someone is dreaming all of this and in a dream many weird things can happen, possibly Jack since he is the only one who knew this guy.

All I gotta say is I love this show.

I'm sure each one of us sees something that the others didn't.

OK, sorry guys i am a moron, i posted in season one. But seriously who is that scary guy in the end? How do you know that Jack married the woman in the hospital? There are so many story lines to keep up with (Sigh) It was a great season opener though, I am obsessed with it!

I don't know but somehow my wife knows. He must have mentioned having a wife at some point in time. And the guy at the end is the same guy Jack saw when he was running up the steps in the stadium and sprang his ankle. His name is Desmond. Now why and how he is there, that is a VERY BIG QUESTION?????

my mom thought dessy was an angel, but then,i looked at him. i remembered the begining of the show, and thought of the features of the hatch guy, like his hands, they were kind of girl ish. and his nose too, it was a little different. then his skin color and his hair, and the "see you in another life" and i figured it out, i'm slow i know.

i just read all of that and i'm tired so now my head hurts like, really bad, thanks guys.

Oh, that's right... the last thing that Desmond said to Jack, at the stadium was, "See you in another life"

So, is THIS life, on the island, another life? Are they really dead, and living in a 'spiritual realm' or something?

Dang, there are sooooo many twists and turns to this show, and it's never ending.

Thing is, people have died on this island. It's hard to imagine a spiritual realm where people are dying. Jack himself almost died when he got buried alive in the cave... I'm thinking that the "another life" line refers the clean slate they've all been given while on the island, and how their lives changed as a result of them being stranded there.

That's true... hmmmm, well, just trying to toss out ideas. Besides, I missed MOST of season one, though, I'm getting the dvd's from a friend, and will be "up to par" shortly!

yea, i think that the "another life" is the whole starting over thing with the island

yea, i have to get the season 1 on dvd, and house, those are both on my xmas list, but hopefully i'll get them in advance this ear

I love House

I think Another Life just meant another point in time. Surely it can be said that their Life's have changed.

True... their lives have DRASTICALLY changed.

So, do you think that Desmond KNEW that he would see Jack again?
Was that 'meeting' at the stadium just a random event, or planned?

???? Don't know.

it was prolly planned knowing this show.
.....either that or it was extreamly significant

prolly the 2nd one

oh that's a good one!!!

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, great one, Matt!!! Yeah, that's a definate possibility.

Whats that 70's computer doing?


I think it controls the MONSTER.




I reviewed the graffiti on the wall, the line said "M Sick",

I'm assuming it says "I'm sick" and I can't see the "I". That would tie in with the Quaranteen lid, and the CRAZY French Lady's version of what happened to her crew...they all got sick and died.


Also, it had a screaming woman or man or child, it looked like Van Go's the Silent Scream.


I think it would be neat, if it turns out that Desmond has appeared to everyone at some point in their life. That would be cool.


I loved it last night, it was just awesome. Sitting there, watching that dude do dishes and ride his exercise bike, to that cheesy 70's rock music,

then HITCHCOCK music starts, dust falls from the cieling, and the sudden realization that I had just been had,
that we were in the HATCH.

I love it when they do that, when they play with your mind, and make you think you are in some flashback,
and all the while, you are in the very HATCH that you been thinking about all summer.

They did it with the girls boyfriend as well. He goes to talk to Jack, and you think the first words out of his mouth are going to be,

"Will she ever walk again?"


but instead, you get him saying, "Will she be able to make love?"


Wow. What a zinger. What a slap in the face. I love it, it's good writing, they go for the cliche' and then twist it, so you never really know what anyone is going to say or do.

yea, the whole thing with the bf just made me mad. he didnt even visit her in the hospital!!!

he just wants to screw her, that's all

As to wondering how we knew the woman was Jack's future wife: In a flashback Jack was marrying a blond woman named Sarah. She said that he saved her life and that she was a patient of his. I forget, but did she say something about getting to dance at their wedding?

I agree that the comment,"See you in another life" meant in a changed life or just simply later. Their lives have atlered completely since before the crash. To quote Jack himself, "We all got new lives on this island."

i think that she did say something about dancing at her wedding, not sure though

I meant in the flashback to the speeches made at Jack's wedding, not when Sarah was in the hospital. She did say she wanted to dance when she was in the hospital.

i know what your talking about

Why Damon Lindelof Didn't Reveal What's in the Hatch in Season One: “What’s in there is really, really cool and we decided that whatever it was they found in there was going to change their existence on the island. So instead of it just being something that they see and then leave, it forces them to reevaluate everything they thought they knew about where they are and why they’re there and what they’re supposed to do there more importantly. The hatch instead of just being something in the first couple episodes is going to go all the way through season two.”Damon Lindelof on Figuring Out What's in the Hatch: “Then over the course of subsequent weeks as we were writing the pilot and casting the pilot, we kept talking about what would be in this hatch. Then Carlton Cuse came on around episode four or five and he joined the conversation. We said the rule will be they would not find the hatch until we know what is in it. And we finally figured it out and said okay, this is awesome.

They found the hatch around episode 10 or 11. We always knew they would not open it until the end of season one and we would not go in until the beginning of season two which has frustrated people a little and I totally get that. I would be frustrated too, but if we had shown them just a little bit of what was in the hatch, they’d be 1000 times more frustrated than they were with seeing nothing because it would have made no sense. It would have had no context.”

Damon Lindelof on Lost's Magic Numbers: “How far out we thought about the numbers is irrelevant to the fact that they landed in a way that we never, ever imagined. They were always going to be an incredibly important part of the island mythology and all I’ll say is the first three episodes right out of the gate, you’ll have a much clearer understanding of not what they mean but what they do.”

Sandy June... it's great to see you in here!!! Keep an eye on that man of yours while you're here, okay?

That's a really interesting post there... and it sounds like we will learn a little, and yet, be more confused than ever!!! I like it... keep the suspense of it all going on and on!!!

Thank you. I really like your avatar!!

ok, that was interesting and mad me totally lost.








just like the show

Sandy June... that one is nice too!!! Did Dave do that for you?

Yes, he did. He is suppose to be making me some other ones so I can switch around. I can not make him have Jack as his avatar. I found a really nice picture for him.

Which characters do you want? I posted a bunch in the second post in this thread, for Sherry, of Kate.

Look in the avatar thread. I was feeling inspired... again.

O.K. thanks guys.

The plot of "LOST"






Plot Summary for
Twilight Zone: The Movie (1983)
Four directors collaborated to remake four episodes of the popular television series 'The Twilight Zone' for this movie. The episodes are updated slightly and in color (the television show was in black-and-white), but very true to the originals, where eerie and disturbing situations gradually spin out of control.

Summary written by Tad Dibbern {DIBBERN_D@a1.mscf.upenn.edu}

Four horror/science-fiction segments directed by four of Hollywood's famous directors based on TV's most popular anthology series, bookened by a funny and scary prologue and epilogue featuring Dan Aykroyd and Albert Brooks. In the first story directed by John Landis (the only one not adapted from an original TV episode) a loud-mouthed bigotted businessman (Vic Morrow) with an intense hatred for Jews, blacks, and Asians, gets the tables turned on him when he walks out a bar and is inexplicably transported back in time to being persued by Nazis in 1940s France, then as an African-American at a KKK rally in the 1950s Deep South, and as a Vietnamese in 1960s Vietnam. The second story directed by Stephen Spielberg (a remake of 'Kick the Can') an old man (Scatman Crothers) arrives at a retirement home and makes the wishes of the residents come true when he magicaly transforms them into youthful incarnations of their days gone by. [COLOR=crimson] Joe Dante (a remake of 'It's a Good Life') a young woman on the road (Kathleen Quinlan) gives a ride to a mysterous 10-year-old boy (Jeremy Licth) to his house and ends up trapped with other people in an alternate reality created by the boy's imagination. The fourth story directed by George Miller (a remake of 'Nightmare at 20,000 Feet) stars John Lithgow as an passenger on an airline whom sees, but cannot convince anyone, a mysterious creature on the outside wing of the airplane trying to sabotage the aircraft.


Read the third story. Then try to see the Movie. This I believe is the true plot of "Lost."

i cant even imagine how much thought must go into the making of this show

Hmmm... but if that's true, the mystery of the show will be almost completely gone once that's discovered...

I would rather it be a sick alien, imprisioned on an island, and he calls in people with physic powers to help free him,

himself an empath who travels via mindwaves, to meet them all in their lives, (like in stadiums) and slowly draw them to his government prison Island, which is sheilded by a giant glass bubble,

and a security device that runs off 70's computers.


If it's a boy making up his own reality, I will be slightly peeved.

That's my theory. Try to see the movie. The similarity is there.

I propose the Island within an Island theory. IWI for short.

My theory is the only thing that illustrates the impossible events.

Instant healing. Pirates. Polar Bear, etc. The kid developed his ability because of the shocks to his system when he was forced to be with his father. It was dormant until that time.

Anybody want to bet?

Not me. I am terrible with symbolism, that and the fact that I rarely get to watch the show without something else going on- I need my Lost time! I missed out on a lot of the clues. I think maybe I will start recording it.

I am willing to bet the 10 cents that Grant reneged upon.http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/angry2.gif

Yeah! Grant didn't give us the money! He owes us. Dang, we should do a thread about what we would do with the ten cents just to piss off Grant.

He welched on us.http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/evildoer.gif

The island is like the matrix, and the hatch is the rabbit hole that will show them all what the truth is. Blowing off the hatch was ingesting the red pill.

The are all in a prison -- for their MINDS...

The Twilight Zone theory is an interesting one...

i do agree that walt will prolly have a big part in this. i dunno, this is way too much information for my small brain

Now that would suck. I have not and will not watch the Matrix. Even Mahesh gave up on me watching it. I just can't get past watching Keanu. That guy annoys me.

I posted this in the other thread, but...

Did the raft float them to the island or to ANOTHER island? Or to the OTHER SIDE of the island. Sawyer seemed to recognize it as "home." But how could NO OTHER SURVIVORS be there (not the others).

And did the French lady ever explain why everyone BUT her got sick? And whatever happened to her anyway?

OH, i have a questions, remember when Sayid found that cable in the sand and followed it all the way to the trap that took him to the french chick? Where IN THE WATER, does that cable go? They never said anything... obviously it goes SOMEWHERE!!!

It's the same island, just the other side of it.


The french lady said they went to the black rock and got sick, maybe she did not go to the black rock, but she might have because she had a lot of dynomite and knew where it was,

so maybe she was just immune.

i am pretty sure the sickness is insanity, and i dont think crazy people know they're crazy, she is crazy and prolly doesnt know it

This show drives me crazy. Why do I continue to watch?

I woke up in the middle of the night and realized that the girl who got shoved into the pit with Michael, Jin and Sawyer was the same girl who flirted with Jack in the bar at the airport. It takes me a little while to make these connections.

Does it seem to anyone else that the commercials are even more annoying and more frequent than on other shows?

This entire show is a lotta crap...................

So i'm not the only one who noticed that??? good.

They do seem to be showing more commercials now than they did the first season.

i think they just like to make us even more frustrated with not knowing stuff than we already are.

So now we have to look forward to Jack's story about how he happened not to be married anymore. My first thought was that she must have died, but knowing this show, it would never be that simple. She probably was carried off by sea sprites or forest nymphs.

No, he divorced her. In the season one finale when he met Ana Lucia she asked if he was married and he said divorced, not widower. Which is sadder, in my opinion.

I carefully watched the season finale again... never saw anna lucia in it. Which episode, exactly, was she in? And what time in the episode did they meet? I don't remember ever seeing her at all until the second season.

she was in the very last episode, in the last 15 minutes or so,

she was the girl that Jack was talking to in the airport bar.

I have the last episode... but that conversation never happens in it. I'm confused.

how many episodes are there?

What are the nameso f the last 4 or 5 episodes?

Just so I know...

thanks...

EDIT: Nevermind, I found a synopse of it. Interesting. It's not the finale, it's the second-to-last episode. Which I didn't have, because the one I had was titled wrong... funny.

i wonder if she did die? if she did that sure would suck. he seemed upset when dessy asked about her. dunno, that may have been just the situation he was in though.

I saw that episode but don't remember which one it was. Very well could have been the last one of last season since a lot of the focus was on Jack and it introduced Anna Lucia and Desmond for this season.