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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | | Leave it up to sordidmesh to come in and get angry at black people first calling the "black mayor" (I bet if he said Giuliani you wouldn't say white mayor) a dope. You disgust me sordidmesh, please stop posting this constant crap.
You always come on here and act like, "I'm not a racist, but black this and minority that with your racist xenophobic posts." It's just disgusting reading this garbage. I think this is more about class than race and I am tired of people like you.
You never cease to amaze me, when is your next racist post going to come, Martin Luther King day I suppose? Hmm...4 months is a long time, I think you'll have some crap in between. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: sordidmesh | |
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Inner City Blue said this in post #18 :
Leave it up to sordidmesh to come in and get angry at black people first calling the "black mayor" (I bet if he said Giuliani you wouldn't say white mayor) a dope. You disgust me sordidmesh, please stop posting this constant crap.
You always come on here and act like, "I'm not a racist, but black this and minority that with your racist xenophobic posts." It's just disgusting reading this garbage. I think this is more about class than race and I am tired of people like you.
You never cease to amaze me, when is your next racist post going to come, Martin Luther King day I suppose? Hmm...4 months is a long time, I think you'll have some crap in between. |
It's not racism. It is realism.
The mayor is a dope for not doing enough for HIS people.
Mayor Guiliani has done his share for everyone.
The poor blacks of the south are the end product of slavery. They have no self esteem and are actually still enslaved but by THEIR OWN KIND who are keeping them in the dark and preventing their natural evolution such as occured in LA and NYC.
You should be tired of the black leaders who are lying to their own people and claming they are victims of racism.
You just don't get it and want to call me a racist. It is factual. ignorance flourishes when people are kept blind, blacks in this case on a large scale. The ebonics debate is the largest example of the kind of ignorance I am talking about.
You want to know what offends me?......A group of black people in the United States Congress calling themselves the "Black Caucus"......Am I supposed to ignore the feeling of exclusion I get when hearing "Black Caucus"? THAT is what is garbage. It is almost as bad as the Mexicans who refer to themselves as "La Raza" which means "The Race" implying it deserves a special recognition. What if white members of Congress decided to form a group and call themselves "The White Caucus"...which obviously would be oriented towards themselves more than others. If I were black, I sure know that such a group would anger me. Well, that is just what the designation of a black caucus does to me, angers me.
So InnerCity if you want to continue to call me a racist, go right ahead. You are wrong. Very wrong. I can't help if you get offended by the simple mention of the word blacks.
You should realize that blacks need to rise above where "they" (the black leadership) wants to them from going to.
You cannot tell me the promotion of poverty, crime, stupid money and jewlery, rampant sex and 50 word vocabularies by rappers, who are historically black, is a good thing. Do not deny the damage these role models have done.
Why do you get so angry about the topic? Because you are not smart enough to understand it may be why. You won't be so angry anymore once you realize how wrong you are.
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| Posted by: nikiTa | |
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sordidmesh said this in post #16 :
So, since he was holding a guitar on August 30, 2005, does that mean he hadn't already declared a State of Emergency for Lousiana on August 27th, two days before the hurricane even made landfall?
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Sordidmess,
Please get your facts straight.
It was the Mayor of New Orleans, you know the Black man you so harshly lambasted in this post who actually declared Louisiana a "State of Emergency" on the morn of Sunday August 28.
Good ol' boy Bush was still on vacation on August 27....in fact good ol' Bush was on vacation until Wednesday August 31st when po' po' good ol' boy Bush had to cut his vacation short to decide to lead this freakin' country through this disaster. Bush is a disaster all by hisself, his po' po' self.
Stop your bullcrap sordidmess!
You cannot manipulate a sane and sound mind with such insanity that is this thread!
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| Posted by: sordidmesh | |
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sowhatsthetruth said this in post #23 :
Sordidmess,
Please get your facts straight.
It was the Mayor of New Orleans, you know the Black man you so harshly lambasted in this post who actually declared Louisiana a "State of Emergency" on the morn of Sunday August 28.
Good ol' boy Bush was still on vacation on August 27....in fact good ol' Bush was on vacation until Wednesday August 31st when po' po' good ol' boy Bush had to cut his vacation short to decide to lead this freakin' country through this disaster. Bush is a disaster all by hisself, his po' po' self.
Stop your bullcrap sordidmess!
You cannot manipulate a sane and sound mind with such insanity that is this thread! |
Are you stupid or just not informed?
Get YOUR facts straight.
Do you honestly think the president does not conduct work from Crawford, TX?
Sat, Aug. 27, 2005
Associated Press
CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush declared a state of emergency in Louisiana on Saturday because of the approach of Hurricane Katrina and his spokesman urged residents along the coast to heed authorities' advice to evacuate.
Bush, vacationing at his ranch, was being regularly updated about the storm, which is expected to hit land early Monday, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.
Officials from the Federal Emergency Management Agency continue to coordinate with state authorities in Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama, and have prepositioned supplies in areas expected to be affected, he said.
The president's emergency declaration authorizes the FEMA to coordinate all disaster relief efforts and to provide appropriate assistance in a number of Louisiana parishes, or counties.
Authorities told residents of low-lying coastal communities to head for higher ground. The storm was expected to strengthen as it crosses the Gulf of Mexico and could become a Category 4 hurricane with wind of at least 131 mph.
"We urge residents in the areas that could be impacted to follow the recommendations of local authorities," McClellan said.
So tell me another one. BUSH - LEADER OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR LOUSIANA, THE WHOLE STATE, ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 27,2005....A DAY BEFORE YOU CLAIM THE MAYOR OF NEW ORLEANS, RAY NAGIN, DID FOR HIS CITY.
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| Posted by: sordidmesh | | Oh and btw, I am very ticked off that this post has been moved to the flamers section. It occurs to me that intense debate and thought, things the world needs right now is frowned upon on this message board. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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sordidmesh said this in post #32 :
Oh and btw, I am very ticked off that this post has been moved to the flamers section. It occurs to me that intense debate and thought, things the world needs right now is frowned upon on this message board. |
It went from intense debate to name calling a long time back, so it got moved.
If you all don't want stuff moved, don't resort to name calling, it's a no brainer.
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| Posted by: sordidmesh | |
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Whidden said this in post #36 :
It went from intense debate to name calling a long time back, so it got moved.
If you all don't want stuff moved, don't resort to name calling, it's a no brainer. |
Unknowingly, you have just implied I have no brain. I think that qualifies as a form of name calling. So go look in the mirror and say "he's right, I am a hypocrite."
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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sordidmesh said this in post #38 :
Unknowingly, you have just implied I have no brain. I think that qualifies as a form of name calling. So go look in the mirror and say "he's right, I am a hypocrite." |
Well since I did it unknowingly, I forgive myself.
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| Posted by: Lawless | |
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sordidmesh said this in post #38 :
Unknowingly, you have just implied I have no brain. I think that qualifies as a form of name calling. So go look in the mirror and say "he's right, I am a hypocrite." |
He didn't call YOU anything... he merely stated what the thread had become. If you took personal offense to such a thing, you might want to see if you've done something that is causing you guilty feelings. Otherwise, Dave is doing his job, and will continue to do so.
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| Posted by: oneofpeace | |
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Sordid wrote
Oh and btw, I am very ticked off that this post has been moved to the flamers section. It occurs to me that intense debate and thought, things the world needs right now is frowned upon on this message board.
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I couldn’t agree with you more. This forum shouldn’t have been move here. What I’ve noticed is that whenever there’s a forum that debated and it’s not favorable to those who’s opinions are on the side of Bush, the forum gets moved or threatens to be moved.
There isn’t even a notice in the original forum that this thread was moved which leads me to believe it was moved by one of the staunch Bush supporters who believe we are bashing.
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| Posted by: fuscia | |
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sordidmesh said this in post #38 :
Unknowingly, you have just implied I have no brain. I think that qualifies as a form of name calling. So go look in the mirror and say "he's right, I am a hypocrite." |
He meant that you know the rules. Don't be surprised when you get your posts moved to flamer's ward when you break the rules.
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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oneofpeace said this in post #45 :
I couldn’t agree with you more. This forum shouldn’t have been move here. What I’ve noticed is that whenever there’s a forum that debated and it’s not favorable to those who’s opinions are on the side of Bush, the forum gets moved or threatens to be moved.
There isn’t even a notice in the original forum that this thread was moved which leads me to believe it was moved by one of the staunch Bush supporters who believe we are bashing. |
 C'mon!
Hey, if all the anti bush threads got moved to this forum, we wouldn't have a forum. 
No, the thread got moved because of the name calling, if you go back and read the whole thing, you will find it, it degenerated.
For the record, most of the mods at Inreview are not Bush supporters, quite the contrary. The only 3 I can think of are me, Ron Ackerman and maybe Sayzak.
The other 3 Admin's on the same level with Ron Ackerman, namely Fuscia, Kris and Sean Kelly are not Bush supporters.
If threads were being moved because of Pro-Bush bias, they would step up to the plate and bust some heads. They would not let that kind of thing go on.
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| Posted by: sordidmesh | |
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Whidden said this in post #49 :
C'mon!
Hey, if all the anti bush threads got moved to this forum, we wouldn't have a forum.
No, the thread got moved because of the name calling, if you go back and read the whole thing, you will find it, it degenerated.
For the record, most of the mods at Inreview are not Bush supporters, quite the contrary. The only 3 I can think of are me, Ron Ackerman and maybe Sayzak.
The other 3 Admin's on the same level with Ron Ackerman, namely Fuscia, Kris and Sean Kelly are not Bush supporters.
If threads were being moved because of Pro-Bush bias, they would step up to the plate and bust some heads. They would not let that kind of thing go on. |
Where it degenerated is a matter of opinion.
In the real world, not this virtual one, it is a lot more difficult to converse and things worse than name calling happen. People die. Which is horrible. So moving the post out of the Katrina forum, where it had great relevance to be, was a mistake in my opinion. In effect you have now provided an environment, by moving it to the "flamers ward" for more disruption and degradation to occur. Did the person who moved it think that far before moving it or did they just want to pretend in their fascistic way that they know when to sensor something?
So, since it has been moved.... MORON, MORON, MORON!
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| Posted by: nikiTa | | Wow, I cannot believe the high level of denigrating going on by this thread starter.
Perhaps I should pull out a dictionary to keep up. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Dekka00 | | wtf does 'caucus' mean anyway?
it sounds racist to me. Caucasian... caucus...
anyway, I am of the opinion that this thread should NOT have been moved to Flamer's Ward.
you may think sordidmesh is an a$$hole, and I'd be inclined to agree with you, but he still has a right to his opinion. He really hasn't broken any rules, he has merely expressed his opinion. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | |
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sordidmesh said this in post #51 :
Where it degenerated is a matter of opinion.
In the real world, not this virtual one, it is a lot more difficult to converse and things worse than name calling happen. People die. Which is horrible. So moving the post out of the Katrina forum, where it had great relevance to be, was a mistake in my opinion. In effect you have now provided an environment, by moving it to the "flamers ward" for more disruption and degradation to occur. Did the person who moved it think that far before moving it or did they just want to pretend in their fascistic way that they know when to sensor something?
So, since it has been moved.... MORON, MORON, MORON! |
Flaming staff is NOT acceptable. If you have a problem with staff, pm a higher member of the staff. Think of it like school. You are not allowed to cuss the teacher or the principal. So, since you went down that road, it stays here. Next time you flame a staff member, you will be dealing with me.
OH and for the record, I was going to move this thread back to the hurricane forum until I saw that post.
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| Posted by: adityamahesh | |
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fuscia said this in post #61 :
Think of it like school. You are not allowed to cuss the teacher or the principal. |
That is about to change Fuscia.
M.
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| Posted by: Lawless | | Oh, and for the record... if this CRAP continues... people are going to be very unhappy when they are REMOVED! This crap is getting ridiculous. If you can't stop the diarrhea from spewing forth from your mouths... we can use a plug!!! Flaming of members is unacceptable... and going after staff will not be tolerated. You KNOW the rules here... you've been here long enough. Knock off your childish games, grow up, remove the diapers... and act like an ADULT!!!!!
Threads get moved to this forum, because people can't seem to remember that when they run their mouths, this is where their crap belongs... down in the sewer, where it tends to stink! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | | It seems sordid is spewing his freeper freeconservative BS...
Here are other wonderful comments from such people:
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| This was the week when a major American city demonstrated to the world what a hellhole it really was, and black racists put out their hands and started to choke, rape and murder people who were mainly white. |
No matter what errors in judgement were made at the local level, the pitiful response should be the real focus, a focus on FEMA being part of the DHS needs to be looked at. This thread is evident of the frantic move by the Republican party to deflect any blame in the federal response whether it be in direct actions by the president during the crisis or the policies set forth before the crisis.
Here's a question sordidmesh: What is the current head of FEMA's experience in disaster relief?
Here is what the Republican Slime Machine's agenda is for the next two weeks. Send out e-mails and have minions like sordidmesh peddle them to try and make it seem like if anything, this is all the fault of Democrats. And then on the news and keep saying the mayor and governor are to blame. Like the hurricane, we know this is coming. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | |
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Okay where was Ray Nagin when those people were suffering in the Superdome and in the Convention Center? Where was Governor Blanco? Where were they when Shepard Smith was in tears trying to get rescuers to come to the interstate?
Good points. Why locking down the entire city across the board? How about letting our American neighbors out of that atrocious HELL on earth?
When Shepard and Garaldo were crying to get the people rescued. The STATE and CITY was in charged of the immediate rescue efforts. It's easy to see where the priorities were and they were not the Superdome, Convention Center or the Interstate where people were starving, suffering from the heat and dying.
Why did our own government terrorized tens of thousands of citizens? Where in the Constitution they all be locked up? Can they sue for false imprisonment? What laws did they break and what court lawfully imposed that incarceration? |
http://members.aol.com/bamagera/images/wave.gif Why throw ice on when the best is just getting started? 
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Intense debate is encouraged by Inreview, but this banter back and forth with personal jabs is unacceptable.
Let's kick it up. Kick it up a notch for some more excitement. This thead is heating up with lots of light and understanding. Lots of great POVs.
Ron, (who is my boss by the way) is perfectly within his right to edit posts, move threads, or tell someone to get back on topic. Since he is in here on the front line debating, to be fair, Fuscia and I are going to take care of that, so it don't look like he is stepping in as a mod, because he can't take the heat or something. But even so, if Ron says it's off topic, it's off topic, accept it. He is an Admin, which is above a senior mod, which is above a regualar mod. You have to listen to him if he does say to get back on topic.
http://members.aol.com/bamagera/images/eye1.gif Come on, Ron's a capable debater and stands up on own two feet. No one's knocking him out yet. He and I are narrowing down much of our earlier differences to the point that we are agreeing too much. 
http://members.aol.com/bamagera/images/white%20butt.jpg Please, he's sitting too close to your nose where the sun don't shine. |
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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Ken NJ said this in post #47 :
http://members.aol.com/bamagera/images/wave.gif Why throw ice on when the best is just getting started?
Let's kick it up. Kick it up a notch for some more excitement. This thead is heating up with lots of light and understanding. Lots of great POVs.
Please, he's sitting too close to your nose where the sun don't shine.
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Nope.
It's NOT getting kicked up for more excitement, as a matter of fact the forum will not be going in that direction, it will be going the other way, back to civility.
If name calling, like in other threads, or not listening to an Admin when they tell you to get back on topic, (like in this thread), or flaming take place, (like in this thread) the thread will be moved or the posts edited.
This thread is moved to the Flamers Ward as of now.
I will do a thread split later, and move the relevant posts back into the Katrina forum.
Ron is perfectly capable of taking care of himself, tis true, but we are not going to allow these threads to be taken over by rudeness.
Aint' gonna happen.
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Whidden is right. Ron can take care of himself, and we are not going to let the threads become free for alls. Senior staff that are online take care of problem threads. Dave made the right call. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: sordidmesh | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #1 :
Why are Black people who are Victims of an avoidible disaster being called REFUGEES? A refugee is someone who goes to another country for fefuge. Didn't this country Purchase Louisiana ? I thought being born here means citizenship? I wonder how many family members in Iraq? Taxes?..etc
The Bush administration is to Blame for this avoidable catastrophe. In 2001, FEMA ( which hasn't done s---) warned Bush that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the 3 most likely disasters in this country, but Bush refused to listen and CUT New Orleans' Flood Control Funding by 44%. 2002 National guard Corp's chief resigned, under pressure, after he criticized Bush's proposed cuts in the corps' budget, which included Flood Control Spending.
Bush will be accountable for this disaster. Its no coincidence that that major disasters are happening while Bush is president. High gas ,high unemployment,Neglect of Black people, Iraq, 9/11,media take over, president elections,destruction of environment Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezela...etc.
This is what you all voted for. That London paper was correct when it questioned it asked how American citizens could be so stupid to re-elect Bush. |
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The dope of a mayor Ray Nagin failed to use these buses. And I don't want to hear his dumb excuse of "wellll, we'se a didn't have no drivers for them buses" that is rubbish.
And by the way, your media is responsible for making you think the storm was a massacre...for wanting it to be a massacre...you don't even have over 100 people dead yet in New Orleans....there are more dead in Mississippi.
The storm killed less people than black people murdered in the last month in Louisiana.
I hope you bite your tongue off.
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| Posted by: sordidmesh | | By labeling me with a color (pink) you are no better than those who still believe in segregation.
Do you (the one who is responsible for pinking me) really think you can silence me this way? Do you really think you have made the right decision in trying to stomp on my freedom of opinion and expression?
You may have just made a situation worse by what you have done. I think you should review your actions and think of how they may now have done nothing but antagonize.
Do you think that I don't have 50 other names each with different IPs already registered and will not use them to state my opinion?
You will not silence me. You will not segregate me.
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Sordid, it was a staff decision to give you warning points that you so richly deserved.
Staff ~noun- meaning more than one person in authority on this board.
You are pink because you keep mouthing off and disrespecting other members. It is not that difficult to understand. YOU clicked the agree button when you joined the board. YOU made the decison to flame staff and to make racist comments. Should you clean up your act, then we can talk about removing the pink status. Other members have gone pink, reformed, then had that status removed. Making further threats against staff is only going to make matters worse for yourself. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: adityamahesh | | 'Reformed'. That must be a thought police word. I should consult my 1984.
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| Posted by: gaboman | | Sordid, if you'd like to take your freedom of speech case to the Supreme Court, I'm sure they're sitting in suspense right now just dying to hear from you. They've got the bill of rights sitting right there on the table, just waiting for you to point out which part has been violated and they have an overhead projector set up and one of those laser pointers that'll let you put a tiny red dot on the point that says "Freedom of speech", as well as a barbarshop quartet all set up outside the Courtroom ready to sing Lida Rose with alternate lyrics that point out the serious infraction of your basic human right that you've been so sorely denied.
Sorry, but if you think chucking a tantrum would get you unpinked, then the above must be true too. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: adityamahesh | |
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fuscia said this in post #30 :
Reformed= people who clued in and actually followed the rules.
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Now Fuscia, no need to get angry. We all know how sensitive you and your thought police are about correct terminology.
M.
p.s. Does that particular characteristic make me part of thought police too?
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| Posted by: fuscia | | M. we don't need you adding fuel to the fire. I know you are kidding, but unfortunately others will think you have joined a movement. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: adityamahesh | | Sorry about that. I suppose it can become a bit problematic for you guys. I don't want to join some whacked-up destined-to-be-doomed Inreview revolution anyway.
As for sordid's freedom of speech rights, here is a post of mine written long ago, ironically, in response to Sordidmesh.
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | | Looking at INReview compared to other message boards, they definitely are not the thought police. People can have opinions here and I think when a member turns pink, it's obvious why that occurs.
If I was given warning points and turned pink, I know exactly the reason why on this board. And I'm glad that at least on this board you can make public or private pleas. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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sordidmesh said this in post #27 :
By labeling me with a color (pink) you are no better than those who still believe in segregation.
Do you (the one who is responsible for pinking me) really think you can silence me this way? Do you really think you have made the right decision in trying to stomp on my freedom of opinion and expression?
You may have just made a situation worse by what you have done. I think you should review your actions and think of how they may now have done nothing but antagonize.
Do you think that I don't have 50 other names each with different IPs already registered and will not use them to state my opinion?
You will not silence me. You will not segregate me.
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Hey, I sent you a private message, please read it,
but if you don't see it, it just informs you that for a temporary time period, you will only be allowed to post in the Flamers Ward.
Your ability to post in the rest of INreview has been turned off.
You can still use the p.m. system.
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