| Posted by: malcolm xx | |  
An 18 month study revealed that just 8% of the guest on Sunday morning political talk shows were Black.
More than 2100 interviews and Blacks appeared only 176 times. 122 of those were by puppets Rice and Powell.Black journalist Juan Williams is panel member on Fox.
Meet the Press ( 4.4 mill weekly viewers), Face the Nation ( 3mill), This Week( 3 mill), Fox Sunday ( 1.3 mill) , Late Edition (613,000) and Black people have to wait until Al Sharpten to be guest to see there reality discussed.Farakahn, Micheal Dyson, Cornel West, Tavis Smilley...etc.
9 cororations influence mainstream media: AOL-Time Warner, Disney, Bertelsman, Viacom ( owns BET), News Corporation, TCI, General Electric, Sony, Seagram. Sponsors of these companies have to be boycotted if things do not change.
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| Posted by: Flutterbywingz | | What needs to change, Malcolm XX?
Most of the black people I know are highly intelligent. If someone has an interest in being a guest on Sunday morning political talk shows, what more is required than simply offering your political knowledge and expertise?
Did the 18 month study happen to mention the number of white people who were interviewed and did not fit the criteria?
If you can find population percentages for me on how many white and black people are living in America, I may be able to juggle some facts and figures for you. While you're at it, can you also find the percentages of the number of men who outweigh the number of women in politics?
Also, if you have the time, could you please let me know which percentile the black and white performers and presenters at American music awards falls into?  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Flutterbywingz | | This is just an assumption, but go ahead and mention to black South Africans what your take on Sunday morning "apartheid" in America is. I'm sure this is a mission they'll stand behind all the way. They may even move to America to fight for justice with you and boycott the media corporations in the name of the very important issue of talk show "discrimination". | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nikiTa | |
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| What needs to change? |
How about providing water and food to the majority of black refugees in New Orleans?
That would have been/ be a great start!
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| Posted by: Flutterbywingz | | You know I agree with that, SWTT.
I was referring to what this thread is about. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nikiTa | | Sorry, I really don't understand what's the topic of this thread (and I did try to make heads and tails of it), I just saw Malcolm and apartheid and my mind instantly went to New Orleans. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nikiTa | | White men run the world, why in the world would they have a black man explaining the goings on of such an elaborate process? Really malcolm why would they?
How many times you seen a white woman on Sunday morning talk shows?
Quite frankly I am tired of looking at old bald headed or white haired men on Sunday morning talk shows who pretend to run the country.....so I go to church....that way I don't have to look at all those bald and white haired wrinkled old geezer white men.
Try that Malcolm. Go to church. That way you aren't tempted to watch all those bald headed white haired geezer white men on TV on Sunday morning. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: devildog | |
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malcolm xx said this in post #9 :
Look at political shows Sunday and see how many guest will be Black. |
Why do you think this is, Malcolm?
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| Posted by: devildog | | I think so, Hazel.
Good thing we don't have a white history month, Miss white USA or have a white entertainment television network. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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devildog said this in post #15 :
I think so, Hazel.
Good thing we don't have a white history month, Miss white USA or have a white entertainment television network. |
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Every month americans celebrate holiday.
BET was the 1 channel Blacks owned before bought by Viacom?
The ignorance being express shows why BUSH gets away with everthing.
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| Posted by: Sierradaddy | | BET was owned by ONE GUY, and he SOLD the channel to Viacom. He would've sold it to anyone who paid the most amount of money. It was HIS channel, not blacks across america.
And every month there is a holiday in america that is for ALL americans. Not just whites, or any particular group. That's why they are NATIONAL holidays.
I'm glad that there is a black history month, because in reality, it's very hard to find enough black history in the school textbooks. American education is, in a way, letting its people down by not including enough of the richness of black contributions to that great nation. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: devildog | | I disagree. Every child I speak to knows who MLK was, but they couldn't tell me the man responsible for emancipating him- the 16th president of the USA. They do not celebrate the B-days of two of our most important historical figures anymore. They were done away with. MLK's b-day is a national holiday however. This is lunacy, but oh well. Washington and Lincoln are now almost forgotten. Presidents day could celebrate Clinton as far as I know. I just asked my niece this very question 3 days ago. She had no idea about those presidents. I almost collapsed. She is 10!! She told me that they do not teach them these subjects in school. She told me all about MLK and Rosa Parks however. Black history is important but not at the expense of our founding fathers. I feel that events, TV stations and competitions that include only one race does nothing but fuel feeling of seperation, and segregation. This does not advance anything!! I don't see this done by the white race. Can you imagine the backlash? Hypocritical if you ask me. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Sierradaddy | | I'm not sure I agree totally. I understand what you mean about not forgetting about the founding fathers, and I agree with it. Black History Month is supposed to be about a celebration of the achievements of black people. It's a recognition of black heritage, which we've had to rebuild since having our heritage and identities taken away from us a long time ago. Black History month isn't about segregation, it's about forging a future. It's about rebuilding a new heritage to replace the one that we were disjointed from.
If the information was included in schools, then there would be no need for a Black History month. If we could recall more names than just the big four: MLK, Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey and Louis Farrakhan, then there'd be no need.
What's weird is, even in Canada, I always knew more about America than I did about Canadian history. I had to intentionally seek out information on the Prime Ministers of Canada, which was considerably more difficult than it was to get a list of all the Presidents of America. Canada has some boot straps to pull up too. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | |
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devildog said this in post #15 :
Good thing we don't have a white history month, Miss white USA or have a white entertainment television network. |
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devildog said this in post #18 :
I feel that events, TV stations and competitions that include only one race does nothing but fuel feeling of seperation, and segregation. This does not advance anything!! I don't see this done by the white race. Can you imagine the backlash? Hypocritical if you ask me. |
I consider your statements to be rather ignorant. For someone to have spent the good half of a post talking about people not knowing history and then turn around slagging on BET and black history month, I think you should really take a look at history.
BET...Black History Month...Miss Black America...Historically Black Colleges and Universities (KEYWORD: Historically)...these institutions, events, networks, etc., they were created as a response to racism, so to call them hypocritical makes no sense.
Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCU) were a response to racism because blacks were refused the chance to pursue post-secondary education. You will find many of these schools in the south, particularly because Jim Crow was all the rage back then. They carry the term historically because they are not all black institutions now and now anyone can apply there, it's just due to tradition that their populations remain well over 90% black. Are the existence of these institutions racist? No, as they are a response to racism.
Black History Month, an outgrowth of Negro History Week, was created because blacks were erased from history books. That's why people like Frederick Douglass, Sojourner Truth, and Harriet Tubman even became well known in history books. The continuation of Black History Month has a lot to do with tradition and is a commemoration of culture in American society. Black History Month is more specifically about Black Americans, who unlike other ethnic groups have no other factors to describe them but race. The western region of Africa is wide and the exact tribes are unknown, so they are called black. Black History Month is no different than the other Heritage months that are held throughout the year. There is no need for a White History Month because there are already months that highlight the different ethnic groups of Europe, like Irish-American Heritage for example. The term African-American (notice it is the only ethnic group defined by continent) came into the lexicon much later, so Black is still a term that is not completely replaced. Nonetheless, it is a term that defines a skin color, but in terms of Black History Month, it is focused on blacks in America for the most part, which would be closer to an ethnic group.
Miss Black America is another response to racism. Blacks used to be barred from the competition. Later they were allowed in, but the tradition of the competition continues. Miss Black America is no different than any other ethnic group competitions like the Miss Italian-American Pageant. These competitions aren't racist because there is nothing wrong with ethnic pride. Blacks in America tend to go with racial pride as their true ethnicity was lost to the slave trade. Nevertheless, this is another item that people want to charge as being racist when it really is a response to racism.
And then of course BET, another response to racism. MTV wouldn't play music videos with blacks in them, BET was a result. I could continue with the usual explanation, but you get the picture.
Calling something racist after the fact makes no sense and tends to be a poor strategy I see used against blacks in an effort to take the focus off the racism that still exists today in this country. The idea seems to be to push the idea that we're ALL racists, thus no one is racists. That couldn't be further from the truth. Calling the existence of most any black organization, event, or function racist isn't a legitamite statement if you look at history. History is more than names and dates; understanding history will help in understanding the present and how to proceed in the future.
But the next thing I want to key on is the racism of your post, whether intentional or unintentional, it kind of sticks out. In you bemoaning the fact that your niece didn't know who Washington and Lincoln were, you seemed more angry with the fact that she is knowledgeable about Martin Luther King, Jr. and Rosa Parks, then you are with her lack of historical knowledge. Knowing history should never be a problem no matter what the information is. I would be mad if my niece didn't know who all those people were and not one group over another.
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it's as if you see President's Week in February and it is overshadowed by Black History Month so you are displeased. But like I said, your post seems to be misdirected in anger. You should be more concerned about knowing history and I'd like to give you a bit more history.
Negro History Week, created by Dr. Carter G. Woodson, was created so that it would coincide with the birthdays of Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass, two figures he saw as critically influential to Blacks in America. So the very foundation of the month you seem to criticize is based on something you want taught, education about American history. And not many people even know that fact and I wish more did know. The more history you know, the better, and it shouldn't be a thing of either-or because that in itself is racist.
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| Posted by: devildog | | I'm black. OK, only kidding, but how would you know that? It makes your label of me interesting doesn't it?
No, I didn't know that Woodson created Negro History Week to coincide with those B-days. That is kind of the point.
I find it a little funny how quick people are to use the term racist today. People are unwilling to listen to the truth or the feelings of some and reverse the heat instead. This is the genesis of political correctness. All I said is that the removal of our friggin history is stupid. Do you want to disagree?
And BTW, many white people do not even think about racism until they see stuff like I mentioned earlier. You need to understand that. Racist people keep racism alive today, if you ask me. We simply d o n t ca r e i f y o u a r e b la c k. The latest example is that Bush doesn't care about black people. Why is race injected into everything? Who injects it. Just move on please. If there was a white Jesse Jackson, he would complain at the percentages of white Basketball players. I hope you get my point. It isn't articulated very well here, but I have to go now.
In a 9 year interracial marriage in case you were interested  . You are soo up the wrong tree. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | | I think you missed the point of my post, I wasn't calling you racist at all. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | |
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devildog said this in post #23 :
It sounded like it. Sorry |
No, no, I apologize if it came off that way.
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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devildog said this in post #23 :
It sounded like it. Sorry |
your responses are close
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