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Posted by: Marc Flemming

Private Jessica Lynch became an icon of the war, and the story of her capture by the Iraqis and her rescue by US special forces became one of the great patriotic moments of the conflict.

But her story is one of the most stunning pieces of news management ever conceived.

Private Lynch, a 19-year-old army clerk from Palestine, West Virginia, was captured when her company took a wrong turning just outside Nasiriya and was ambushed.

Nine of her comrades were killed and Private Lynch was taken to the local hospital, which at the time was swarming with Fedayeen. Eight days later US special forces stormed the hospital, capturing the "dramatic" events on a night vision camera.

They were said to have come under fire from inside and outside the building, but they made it to Lynch and whisked her away by helicopter.

Reports claimed that she had stab and bullet wounds and that she had been slapped about on her hospital bed and interrogated.

But Iraqi doctors in Nasiriya say they provided the best treatment they could for the soldier in the midst of war. She was assigned the only specialist bed in the hospital and one of only two nurses on the floor.

"I examined her, I saw she had a broken arm, a broken thigh and a dislocated ankle," said Dr Harith a-Houssona, who looked after her.

Jessica amnesia

"There was no [sign of] shooting, no bullet inside her body, no stab wound - only road traffic accident. They want to distort the picture. I don't know why they think there is some benefit in saying she has a bullet injury."

Witnesses told us that the special forces knew that the Iraqi military had fled a day before they swooped on the hospital.

"We were surprised. Why do this? There was no military, there were no soldiers in the hospital," said Dr Anmar Uday, who worked at the hospital.

"It was like a Hollywood film. They cried 'go, go, go', with guns and blanks without bullets, blanks and the sound of explosions. They made a show for the American attack on the hospital - action movies like Sylvester Stallone or Jackie Chan."

There was one more twist. Two days before the snatch squad arrived, Harith had arranged to deliver Jessica to the Americans in an ambulance.

But as the ambulance, with Private Lynch inside, approached a checkpoint American troops opened fire, forcing it to flee back to the hospital. The Americans had almost killed their prize catch.

When footage of the rescue was released, General Vincent Brooks, US spokesman in Doha, said: "Some brave souls put their lives on the line to make this happen, loyal to a creed that they know that they'll never leave a fallen comrade."

The American strategy was to ensure the right television footage by using embedded reporters and images from their own cameras, editing the film themselves.

The Pentagon had been influenced by Hollywood producers of reality TV and action movies, notably the man behind Black Hawk Down, Jerry Bruckheimer.

Bruckheimer advised the Pentagon on the primetime television series "Profiles from the Front Line", that followed US forces in Afghanistan in 2001. That approached was taken on and developed on the field of battle in Iraq.

As for Private Lynch, her status as cult hero is stronger than ever. Internet auction sites list Jessica Lynch items, from an oil painting with an opening bid of $200 to a $5 "America Loves Jessica Lynch" fridge magnet.

But doctors now say she has no recollection of the whole episode and probably never will.

Source: BBC (UK)

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Posted by: sloppy

The part about her not having stab wounds and bullet holes is pretty old news isn't it?

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Posted by: nowar

April 4 ...... http://www.inreview.com/showthread....id=13#post12220

Wasn't it at FoxNews ?

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Posted by: Marc Flemming

quote:
Originally posted by sloppy
The part about her not having stab wounds and bullet holes is pretty old news isn't it?

Old news for you apparently. The article was posted on BBC today (is that old?).

quote:
Originally posted by nowar
April 4 ...... http://www.inreview.com/showthread....id=13#post12220

Wasn't it at FoxNews ?

A great deal of the article posted here has nothing to do with the news you posted on April 4th. Hope you had a helluva time pointing that out - and reading and responding to what you all consider old news (you got a fine way of handling your free time). I still get a kick out of your attempt at humor - or complete lack thereof. Thanks, bud.
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Posted by: nowar

Marc:

quote:
Lynch said his daughter still needed surgery on her broken legs and right forearm but that the doctor attending to the 19-year-old U.S. Private First Class disputed U.S. media reports that she had suffered from gunshot wounds and knife stabbings. "We have heard and seen reports that she had multiple gunshot wounds and knife stabbings ," he said. "The doctor has not seen any of this ."


already flown April 4 2003 ........
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Posted by: Marc Flemming

Nowar ... two words: Incurable Denseness.

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Posted by: nowar

dense ? back to:

quote:
Originally posted by sloppy
The part about her not having stab wounds and bullet holes is pretty old news isn't it?


then my answer to the "isn't it ?"

then yours ....

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your answer: still a good reporter Marc ...
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Posted by: Marc Flemming

Your master ability to be completely vague in your responses wastes A LOT of other people's time and at the same time serves your purpose to confuse a subject into a string of worthless conversation.

We could determine the reason WHY I posted this article and see the value wherein it lies - but for whatever petty reason, you choose only to bite at the heels of those that oppose your views.

Change your tactics, they're long past their expiration date.

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Posted by: nowar

ok, I will fill up the DB:

dense ? back to:

quote:
Originally posted by sloppy
The part about her not having stab wounds and bullet holes is pretty old news isn't it?



then my answer to the "isn't it ?"

quote:
April 4 ...... http://www.inreview.com/showthread....id=13#post12220

Wasn't it at FoxNews ?



then yours ....

quote:
A great deal of the article posted here has nothing to do with the news you posted on April 4th. Hope you had a helluva time pointing that out - and reading and responding to what you all consider old news (you got a fine way of handling your free time). I still get a kick out of your attempt at humor - or complete lack thereof. Thanks, bud.


[edit]

your answer: still a good reporter Marc ...




clearer now ? or still vague ?
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Posted by: Marc Flemming

Me: Posting a News Article.

Nowar: Blah Blah Blah Spit Blah.

Another one bites the dust. Take a bow.

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Posted by: frenchfries

Jessica Lynch: Nothing really new in propaganda's world!

The same kind of show happened with Bush a few days ago. He made a speech on a carrier, supposed to be far at sea: it was filmed as if cruising in the open ocean. Because this carrier was too far from the shore, Bush went and landed on this carrier in a fighting jet plane, and was filmed grinning in a full pilot dress.
The reality is that a camera filmed Bush from another angle, and you can see the shore: a helicopter would have been much enough to carry Bush on the carrier, but would have been much less thrilling...

Sleep well puppets...

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Posted by: Americaaah

quote:
Originally posted by frenchfries
a helicopter would have been much enough to carry Bush on the carrier, but less impressive...


You betcha, Frenchie...

"If your parachute doesn't work, bring it back and I'll give you another."
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Posted by: frenchfries

It0s easier to close your eyes then to face reality, uuh?

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Posted by: Americaaah

quote:
Originally posted by frenchfries
It0s easier to close your eyes then to face reality, uuh?


It's called the ostrich syndrome, Frenchie, and the reason an ostrich buries its head in the sand is to find water. What's your excuse?

____
"If your parachute doesn't work, bring it back and I'll give you another."
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Posted by: frenchfries

quote:
Originally posted by Americaaah


It's called the ostrich syndrome, Frenchie, and the reason an ostrich buries its head in the sand is to find water. What's your excuse?

____
"If your parachute doesn't work, bring it back and I'll give you another."


Really? I thought they were looking for oil...

Tell me when you wil stop looking for water and WMD...
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Posted by: nowar

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Flemming
Me: Posting a News Article.

Nowar: Blah Blah Blah Spit Blah.

Another one bites the dust. Take a bow.


you: posting a news article
sloppy: made a remark about her not having stab wounds and bullet holes
me: pointing to the news article dated from April 04 about sloppy's remark

what's your problem Marc ? you don't like that ? why ?
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Posted by: Marc Flemming

It's a conspiracy, I tell you. Your damage has been done. Move along now.

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Posted by: kickace999

Interesting article.. why does the United States media make up patriotic action and focus on dangerous situations that will bring fear to the american people?

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Posted by: frenchfries

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Flemming
Your master ability to be completely vague in your responses wastes A LOT of other people's time and at the same time serves your purpose to confuse a subject into a string of worthless conversation.

We could determine the reason WHY I posted this article and see the value wherein it lies - but for whatever petty reason, you choose only to bite at the heels of those that oppose your views.

Change your tactics, they're long past their expiration date.


Sorry Marc, but Nowars ' posts are much more convincing anD than a lot of other posts, which are just insulting posts..

kEEP GOING Nowar!!!
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Posted by: fred hooper

You mean like nowars propraganda peace website with a little Iraqi girl on the front page? What a joke.

Yeah, where was nowars photos when the Kurds when being gassed and children imprisoned right up to the war? I truly wonder and does it just suddenly become important when America is involved to wanting to end the regime?

Propraganda peace activist using other peoples misery to further their own ends.

Fred Hooper

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Posted by: photek

quote:
Originally posted by frenchfries
It0s easier to close your eyes then to face reality, uuh?


you live in evian, france.

and you're telling us we can't face reality?

i mean honestly, what in the hell have you ever had to worry about, living in evian, france? what kinds of acts of terrorism have you experienced over there?

you just have no say, because you're living in a part of the world that isn't exposed to the reality of the rest of the world. when you've actually seen some of the world and lived in troubled places, then you come here and talk about reality.

until then, sip on your wine and be quiet.
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Posted by: nowar

quote:
Originally posted by fred hooper
You mean like nowars propraganda peace website with a little Iraqi girl on the front page? What a joke.

Yeah, where was nowars photos when the Kurds when being gassed and children imprisoned right up to the war? I truly wonder and does it just suddenly become important when America is involved to wanting to end the regime?

Propraganda peace activist using other peoples misery to further their own ends.

Fred Hooper


fred,

look in my posts and you will see those pics ........
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Posted by: frenchfries

quote:
Originally posted by photek


you live in evian, france.

and you're telling us we can't face reality?

i mean honestly, what in the hell have you ever had to worry about, living in evian, france? what kinds of acts of terrorism have you experienced over there?

you just have no say, because you're living in a part of the world that isn't exposed to the reality of the rest of the world. when you've actually seen some of the world and lived in troubled places, then you come here and talk about reality.

until then, sip on your wine and be quiet.


Sorry, but I have the right to be worried for my children, and I think I experienced enough about terrorism.
Canary Wharf, London, IRA, 1996, does it ring a bell, MORON?
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Posted by: nowar

quote:
Originally posted by photek


you live in evian, france.

and you're telling us we can't face reality?

i mean honestly, what in the hell have you ever had to worry about, living in evian, france? what kinds of acts of terrorism have you experienced over there?

you just have no say, because you're living in a part of the world that isn't exposed to the reality of the rest of the world. when you've actually seen some of the world and lived in troubled places, then you come here and talk about reality.

until then, sip on your wine and be quiet.


just to make a remark:

Gainesville, fl .... what kinds of acts of terrorism have you experienced over there ?
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Posted by: Marc Flemming

quote:
Originally posted by frenchfries
Sorry Marc, but Nowars ' posts are much more convincing anD than a lot of other posts, which are just insulting posts..

......

Sorry, but I have the right to be worried for my children, and I think I experienced enough about terrorism. Canary Wharf, London, IRA, 1996, does it ring a bell, MORON?


Well, you certainly weren't putting me on.
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Posted by: frenchfries

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Flemming


Well, you certainly weren't putting me on.


Thank you for pointing me that out.
I lost temper with that mor...,sorry, that guy.
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Posted by: frenchfries

quote:
Originally posted by nowar


just to make a remark:

Gainesville, fl .... what kinds of acts of terrorism have you experienced over there ?


Perhaps they served him French wine?
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Posted by: nowar

@photek .....


asking questions to others is easy, but seems that replying yourself to YOUR question is quite difficult ..... photek le sage ..... make me laughing ....

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Posted by: USA1

Do you guys have ADD or what?
The post is Jessica Lynch.
The media does what they want. If you wait a minute, the story changes. Who cares? If you, and I mean many of you, base you decisions from the media, I can see why you have no clue.
Next thing you'll say is that she deserved the wounds or like the UK media, it was a hollywood stunt.
What's next? The Eifle tower is radio antena for aliens to beem thought patterns to the French because they incapable of their own? Hmmm. I wrote it, it might be true?
True decisions are based on common sense and moral values.
Check yours.....

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Posted by: nowar

who gave the vid to the media ?
who told the media what happened ?
who told the media she was shot ?

who ??

not the media ............. but those you blindly believe in .....

quote:
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I can see why you have no clue

who have no clues USA1 ?

quote:
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True decisions are based on common sense and moral values.
Check yours.....

and you should better check yours .....
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Posted by: USA1

Who cares? What is the point of this discussion?
Did she or did she not get captured? Yes!
Was she shot, stabbed, beaten, raped? She was injured!
What matters is that she's back home safe. I hope she never remembers this and can move on.
The video came form a PJ. The medic does a quick triage and makes a judgment to save her life. Over treatment is better than to little. He knew from the eval during the evacuation and where it gets construed is when the public sector gets their hands on it. It’s call sensationalizing and they do it in every country.
If the media makes up a story, (they usually do to get ratings) so what?
Why would you believe everything you see and hear from them in the first place?

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Posted by: nowar

who cares ? yes who cares, as usual .....


do you remember the kuweiti girl testifying about the baby bloodbath Iraqi soldiers did ?

2 days before Bush father got his green light to go at war .... another fake organised by US gov .... another coincidence .....

still the media or US gov ?

but who cares, yes who cares .... quite usual .....

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Posted by: frenchfries

quote:
Originally posted by USA1
Who cares? What is the point of this discussion?
Did she or did she not get captured? Yes!
Was she shot, stabbed, beaten, raped? She was injured!
What matters is that she's back home safe. I hope she never remembers this and can move on.
The video came form a PJ. The medic does a quick triage and makes a judgment to save her life. Over treatment is better than to little. He knew from the eval during the evacuation and where it gets construed is when the public sector gets their hands on it. It’s call sensationalizing and they do it in every country.
If the media makes up a story, (they usually do to get ratings) so what?
Why would you believe everything you see and hear from them in the first place?


Who cares???ALL RATIONAL PERSON!

It's not call sensationalizing, it's called lies, and when used in a political context, Propaganda.
Remains me Russia BTW...is your government a new Politburo?

Ethics, Morality and truth, do those words still mean something?!?
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Posted by: rowdyrjp

quote:
Originally posted by frenchfries


Who cares???ALL RATIONAL PERSON!

It's not call sensationalizing, it's called lies, and when used in a political context, Propaganda.
Remains me Russia BTW...is your government a new Politburo?

Ethics, Morality and truth, do those words still mean something?!?


Never fear frenchfries ... they still mean something. One just has to work a little harder to find them these days

Thanks to the internet the power of propaganda may start to diminish. Rational people can now easily read both sides of a story and judge without the polit-filters corporate sponsored gov-friendly mass media outlets broadcast

The expression of this relatively new freedom is seen everyday as we are able to bat these issues around without fear of persecution or ridicule { well ok maybe a little ridicule but hey we're tough we can take it }.

My advice.... keep posting
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Posted by: USA1

What I mean by who cares, is not that JL was caprtured and injured. What I mean is that this post is rediculous for arguing about the media buildup. Who cares? Everyone on this board lies.
She's safe and that's all I personaly care about and not how she was injured. There's a lot more to this stroy than you will ever know and debating whether the media lied is like debating if bears crap in the woods.
Get a life.

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Posted by: USA1

nowar, you ingnorat f*ck. It's just like you to screw up everything your read and turn it into a slam against the poster.
Typical....

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Posted by: Americaaah

It's Memorial Day. The time to honor America's fallen heroes....

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Posted by: rowdyrjp

quote:
Originally posted by USA1
nowar, you ingnorat f*ck. It's just like you to screw up everything your read and turn it into a slam against the poster.
Typical....



Nowar ought to bash you. You continue to be a vulgar tempermental child. Do you hope to argue your cause by shouting obscenities?
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