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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | | What did I say, I told you he'd be found not guilty.
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| Posted by: oneofpeace | | I don’t think MJ will be in a celebratory mode after this. Although I’m sure he’s grateful he learned a lesson the hard way. It seemed after all the numerous warnings it may be the only way for him to have learned it.
After hearing much of this family’s accounting, I don’t think any reasonable jury could have come to any other conclusion. I’m sure some of them believe MJ was probably guilty of some of those things but given this family’s character coupled with their ridiculous stories in that courtroom, the verdict was seen coming a mile away. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hazel_dragoneye | | Well, Well, Well so Michael Jackson isn't guilty. Now Inreview needs to replace this thread with the Saddam Hussein trial that is coming up. I'm going to request this in the next thread.
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| Posted by: Sayzak | | I'm glad he was found not guilty. I believe he's inocent mainly because I think it's even more likely that he's a target for opportunists. He's naeve, and he's obviosuely looped up on pain killers (hence his constant pain, trips to the hospital, inability to really tell the difference between winning an award and presenting one, walking into walls, and dangling babies). I think if he goes through treatment and then finds some perminant solution to his face, he could continue making music and performing for a long, long time. Like James Brown. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: HECK! | | Let's review California law for celebrities:
Murdering your wife (her lover too, if the situation mandates it) is legal-
Molesting children is legal-
Horrible.
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| Posted by: gaboman | | From the case presented by the Prosecution, there was no other verdict the Jury could have come to. They should've stepped up their game a little bit if they wanted to win this. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | | Many will sum this up as a celebrity getting off, but I don't see how you can come to that conclusion looking at the prosecution's case and the fact that there was too much reasonable doubt to convict. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: schmiggens | | I don't think this is a case of a celebrity getting off where a lesser person would've friend. The prosecution royally ****ed this whole case up, they could've got him if they had tried each thing individually, and not had a million charges for molestation, then the kidnapping and the underage drinking, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, all tacked on top. It got to the point where there was so much extra stuff going on, that I almost forgot it was a child molestation case. I think had a normal person had such incompetant lawyers, then they would've been aquitted too.
If Rusell Crowe goes to jail for throwingh his phone and Michael gets away with this, there is seriously something wrong in the world. | | Reply To this Message
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Inner City Blue said this in post #5 :
Many will sum this up as a celebrity getting off, but I don't see how you can come to that conclusion looking at the prosecution's case and the fact that there was too much reasonable doubt to convict. |
I agree with you, ICB. Was this case presented to the jury without a degree of reasonable doubt? Nope. However you want to paint it though, seems to me another celebrity has beat the system.
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Interesting that he got off, but many of the jurors thought that he was most likely a molester. He won his case, but if you look at the polls, he lost in the court of public opinion. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jim Nasium | | Gallup: Public Splits, In 'Major Racial Divide,' on Michael Jackson Verdict
By E&P Staff
Published: June 14, 2005 11:30 AM ET
NEW YORK An overnight Gallup Poll released today shows that 48% of Americans disagree with the verdicts clearing pop star Michael Jackson of all charges in the molesting case and only 34% agree -- and they are split along a “major racial divide,” Gallup said.
Whites disagree with the verdict by about 2-1 (54% to 28%) while nonwhites take the opposite view by 2-1 (56% to 26%).
This recalls the O.J. Simpson verdict in 1995, when whites disagreed with him getting off by 62% to 27% while nonwhites supported it by 67% to 24%.
A clear majority, or 62%, believe that Jackson's celebrity status was a major factor in the verdict.
Nearly half said they were “surprised” by the verdict, with 24% saying they were “outraged.”
Exactly one in four said they were “still a fan” of the singer. Almost as many said they were once fans, but no longer. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Nsanebrane | | As a "nonwhite" I also agree with the verdict of not guilty. However, in spite of
what whites may think, in this case there was little danger of blacks rioting if there was a guilty verdict. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: schmiggens | | I agree oneofpeace, whenever the race debate comes into this trial I have to stop and remind myself that he is (was?) actually black. 
I think lots of people feel the same way, that's why I don't think race really had anything to do with this case or this verdict. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | | Despite Jackson's vitiligo (or if you don't believe he has the skin disease), race was still a factor no matter what. Black people don't really see Michael as being white, they just think he's weird. Nonetheless, he's still considered black.
But let's get one thing straight here, O.J. wasn't seen as black, people would consider Michael Jackson more black than O.J. considering Simpson's lack of participation in the civil right movement and his general lack of forging a relationship with the black community. But with the Simpson case, it wasn't even about O.J., it was really about Rodney King and the four officers who got off, it was completely about race, but Simpson was inconsequential, no one cared about him. The reason many black people cheered was because it was kind of about revenge for all the wrongs caused by the justice system against blacks.
I for one thought he was innocent from the start. Say what you will, I think Michael Jackson is weird, but I don't think he's a child molestor. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: HECK! | |
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Nsanebrane said this in post #20 :
As a "nonwhite" I also agree with the verdict of not guilty. However, in spite of
what whites may think, in this case there was little danger of blacks rioting if there was a guilty verdict. |
I agree. I don't see this as being a race issue. I think the O.J. trial is still fresh in everyone's mind and that was only thought to be a powder keg because of the Rodney King riots a few years earlier.
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | | http://www.mjshouse.com/webthumbs_app/servlet/com.acme.weisse.webthumbs.SRV_Thumb?picture=mjshouse.com/pictures/living_with_mj/03.jpg&width=150&height= Doesn't matter if it's kids looking for Michael for something, the same goes for women and moms. The jurors have spoken: The trial outcome produced the evidence, same for Janet and Gavin Arvizo from the recent false claims of molestation.
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I believe he's inocent mainly because I think it's even more likely that he's a target for opportunists.
You're brave to step up and make that bold move to voice Michael Jackson being INNOCENT. And from what you're saying here, it's not that far off the mark for what others are NOT saying.
He's naeve, and he's obviosuely looped up on pain killers (hence his constant pain, trips to the hospital, inability to really tell the difference between winning an award and presenting one, walking into walls, and dangling babies).
http://www.redferns.com/ln_pictures/100_orig/MOA007_JACKSON_FIVE_P.JPG http://www.redferns.com/ln_pictures/100_orig/MOA002_JACKSON_FIVE_P.JPG MJ didn't have much schooling. He spent his entire career making sweet, sweet music. In fact, he was already working when he was 5 with the Jackson Fives. That explains why he's so trusting where the Dark Vaders of the evil world take advantage of him. He never went to kindergarten and regular schools to learn that kids tease, play pranks, spit and steal things from other kids. Jackson always has whatever he wants. So he can't tell the difference between the real life as opposed to living in his fantasy land with kids, now not his age. That's his painful cost for attempting to relive a childhood he never had.
I think if he goes through treatment and then finds some perminant solution to his face, he could continue making music and performing for a long, long time. Like James Brown.
http://www.wbkids.com/MJ_WEB_PICS/thumbs/th_family-debbie_040.jpg You're right, this is a clear case of him believing that money can buy him things he never had. That includes many POVs for him abandoning one's heritage and trying to force mother nature's hand. Funny how suntan lotions and cosmetic surgery sell, but for Michael those same consumers would say funny things about him hiding from the sun under an umbrella. Both seem to be approaching the center melting pot from two opposite extremes. Perhaps that's why music transcends through different neighborhoods and unite people. Are these pictures any better schmiggens?
http://www.wbkids.com/MJ_WEB_PICS/thumbs/th_brooke_022.jpg http://www.wbkids.com/MJ_WEB_PICS/thumbs/th_family-debbie_020.jpg http://www.wbkids.com/MJ_WEB_PICS/thumbs/th_mj-lisa_053.jpg
They wanted him but for a different reason. He never learned real world relationships, they wanted him to leverage their careers.
http://www.wbkids.com/MJ_WEB_PICS/thumbs/th_family-debbie_037.jpg Hmmmm, he dated Brook Shields and married Lisa Marie but none wanted to give him a family he was looking for. He had money and Made a Business Arrangement with his 37 year old nurse Debbie Rowe in 1996. (< -- Just Click Here) Michael is a genius in making music but not in making friends because he never had a normal upbringing. |
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| Posted by: Jim Nasium | |
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Inner City Blue said this in post #23 :
Despite Jackson's vitiligo (or if you don't believe he has the skin disease), race was still a factor no matter what. Black people don't really see Michael as being white, they just think he's weird. Nonetheless, he's still considered black.
But let's get one thing straight here, O.J. wasn't seen as black, people would consider Michael Jackson more black than O.J. considering Simpson's lack of participation in the civil right movement and his general lack of forging a relationship with the black community. But with the Simpson case, it wasn't even about O.J., it was really about Rodney King and the four officers who got off, it was completely about race, but Simpson was inconsequential, no one cared about him. The reason many black people cheered was because it was kind of about revenge for all the wrongs caused by the justice system against blacks.
I for one thought he was innocent from the start. Say what you will, I think Michael Jackson is weird, but I don't think he's a child molestor. |
icb, i was outraged when those cops got off after mercilessly beating a defenseless rodney king. i mean, was the videotape doctored up or something? there was no cause for that under ANY circumstances, beating and continuing to beat a defenseless man, regardless of what he might have done prior to the tape footage.
that, however, was NO reason to acquit an obviously guilty oj simpson. the decades of wrongs against blacks in this country was very, very wrong. i only wish that each and every member of the kkk will burn in hell, but that reaction from the howard university students was as outrageous as the king beating. cheering to celebrate the unjustified acquittal of a double murderer because of past racial injustices? absolutely inappropriate!
jackson is weird, all right, but he's a lot more than that. he's a certified child molester, whether it was proven or not.
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| Posted by: one and only | | YOU GO MICHAEL!!!!!! NOW I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS: WHEN DOES THE LITTLE BOY'S MOM'S TRIAL BEGAN? AND... WHEN DOES MICHAEL JACKSON'S DAD'S TRIAL BEGAN? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: brochu13 | | I don't think the mom has done anyhting wrong. Surely you don't think that Michael Jackson is innocent? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: oneofpeace | | You don't think the mom of the accuser has done anything wrong? Are you kidding me? Have you been following the trial? That woman has a crooked book this as the yellow pages.
So since her son was found shoplifting and picked up by security only to have his mother claim they then sexually molested her and beat up both her kids in a back room and had her children tell a psychiatrist that the ordeal was worse than his cancer, that she's probably as innocent as leave it to Beaver's mother? | | Reply To this Message
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oneofpeace said this in post #29 :
You don't think the mom of the accuser has done anything wrong? Are you kidding me? Have you been following the trial? That woman has a crooked book this as the yellow pages.
So since her son was found shoplifting and picked up by security only to have his mother claim they then sexually molested her and beat up both her kids in a back room and had her children tell a psychiatrist that the ordeal was worse than his cancer, that she's probably as innocent as leave it to Beaver's mother? |
sorry, once again, i gotta say it! i don't care if the kookie mother made a speech before the united nations and said that her son was tied to a bedpost, given an coffee enema and sodomized for 48 continuous hours. that does NOT mean that nothing happened. it only means that the victim has a lying, scheming, money grubbing old lady who, possible deserves to be imprisoned even more than jackson.
you keep getting hung up on 'reasonable doubt' and the propriety of jury verdicts. my presence here in this forum is to try to educate people to understand that the crimes DID, in fact, occur. jackson might have undeservedly escaped a long prison term, but if i can do anything to help the cause, he is NOT going to escape public wrath.
again, i urge people not to purchase his music or do anything to enrich him. furthermore, i appeal to any other molested children to muster up the courage to come forward and tell your stories.
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Ken NJ said this in post #25 :
He spent his entire career making sweet, sweet music. |
your stated love of his music explains your very obvious bias and blindness to what really occurred.
if this pedophile ever decides to run for public office, i'm sure he'd want you for his campaign manager. in any case, you ought to contact him and appeal to him to become his biographer.
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | | Think nicely what is true and carefully before jumping the gun on something unproven. He makes good music, that is true in the past and present. If what is said is untrue affect his future earnings, those irresponsible can be held accountable.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/2054039.jpg Beyonce Knowles presents Michael Jackson with a humanitarian award during the Radio Music Awards on Monday at the Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas October 2003. First the Fall of the Berlin Wall, next Nelson Mandela and now Michael Jackson. 
 You shouldn't call Michael Jackson a "pedophile" since the court has found that he has been acquitted of ALL 10 charges . That now makes him like anyone one else under the Constitution. If you continue with the malicious name calling, that can rise to defamation. And for that it's illegal and the damages can be in the billions.
http://talkleft.com/mjack.jpg Aside from you commenting me campaigning for him, I have no desire to help MJ run for public office. He ain't no politician, but a humanitarian and been awarded for his great volunteer work and substantial contribution to the children of the world and saving starving kids. The African Ambassadors' Spouses Association recognized Jackson for his humanitarian efforts, particularly in Africa, where his "We Are the World" project reportedly raised millions to help the hungry.
1. Jackson has good deed works in Africa giving financial support for programs to build hospitals, orphanages, schools, and also for programs relating to immunization, HIV education and apartheid.
2. Jackson has given over $50 million of his personal wealth to charities over the years, including AIDS Project L.A., Make-a-Wish Foundation, Childhelp USA, Elizabeth Taylor's AIDS Foundation and many more.
3. Jackson is listed in the Guinness Book of Records under "Most Charities Supported by a Pop Star." Michael Jackson Gets Humanitarian Award - April 2, 2004 Michael Jackson has been honoured in Washington DC for his work fighting Aids in Africa. Apparently unmoved by the Los Angeles grand jury currently hearing evidence in his child molestation case, Jackson watched a children's choir as they performed his hit 'Heal the World' and gathered them on his lap, embracing other children, patting their heads and hugging them.
....During his three days in Washington, Jackson, dressed in a spangled jacket and silver-sequinned boots, toured the halls of the Capitol and met with members of Congress. Though he said little, he attracted hordes of reporters and was trailed by fans, enthusiastic maintenance workers and congressional staffers using their camera phones to take photographs. "It set Capitol Hill on fire", said Leon Buck, chief of staff to US Republican Sheila Jackson Lee, who helped arrange Jackson's visit. One staffer even fainted in the hubbub, Buck said.
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| Posted by: Jim Nasium | | you can write about all the accolades from now till the cows come home. it's all too often people like that who think they have special privileges and are far above the law. you kid yourself royally, my friend. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | | http://www.wbkids.com/MJ_WEB_PICS/thumbs/th_miracle-concert-nyc_001.jpg Michael Jackson was misunderstood, therefore, many think him weird. He wanted girlfriends & own kids, but they wanted him for fame, fortune and personal advancement. Brooke Shield had dated Michael and even accompanied him to his Grammy Award.
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| again, i urge people not to purchase his music or do anything to enrich him. furthermore, i appeal to any other molested children to muster up the courage to come forward and tell your stories. |
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40622000/jpg/_40622094_tom_sneddon_203getty.jpg And you say I'm campaigning on behalf of Jackson for political office? Nope! He's the politician that ran for DA's Office 5 times unopposed for 30 years. Does that make you an extension of the DA's Office being overzealous trying to retaliate for more than a decade of failed prosecutions because evidence doesn't exist? Sneddon's been holding dozens of press conferences begging for weirdos to step up and file false allegations against his arch nemesis Wacko Jacko for the last 20 years of his career. Going a third time around with your appeal to the nooks and cranies around the country twice after 1993 and 2005 won't change the outcome (molestation evidence NEVER existed) since there is more evidence proving the following:(Just Click Below)
#1. BIG HEARTED Jacko as more a SUGAR DADDY then with
#2. The Public Awards as a weirdo molester in court. Example #1. http://www.crimelynx.com/mjgavin.jpg This boy loved MJ as a father he never had. The mother had an agenda. (12 year old) Gavin Arvizo's divorced parents used the British tabloids to air their differences, both personal and philosophical. "Michael has pet names for all of my children, and Gavin even calls him (Sugar) Daddy ," said mom Janet , 34, who was once so poor that she temporarily lived in a horse stable with her children. "He is the father they never had." She said Gavin and siblings Star, 11, and Davelin, 16, "are hoping to spend a lot more time with him in the future." Dad David, 37, countered that Janet, a former waitress, "sees prestige for herself from the connection." He said that while Jackson "has been very generous to the kids
Example #2. http://www.wbkids.com/MJ_WEB_PICS/thumbs/th_brooke_015.jpg Michael Jackson's Grammy Award acceptance speech 1993: "I hope this finally puts to rest another rumor that has been in the press for too many years...but I must confess, it feels good to be thought of as a person, not as a personality. Because I don't read all the things written about me, I wasn't aware that the world thought I was so weird and bizarre. But when you grow up as I did, in front of one hundred million people since the age of five, you're automatically different. The last few weeks, I have been cleansing myself and it's been a rebirth for myself. It's like a cleansing spirit.
[to the screeming crowd]: I love you too .
My childhood was completely taken away from me. There was no Christmas, there were no birthdays, it was not a normal childhood, nor the normal pleasures of childhood - those were exchanged for hard work, struggle, and pain , and eventually material and professional success. But as an awful price, I cannot re-create that part of my life. However, today, when I create my music, I feel like an instrument of nature. I wonder what delight nature must feel when we open our hearts and express our God-given talents.
And that's why I love children and learn so much from being around them. I realise that many of our world's problems today - from the inner city crime, to large scale wars and terrorism, (foresight: 8 years before 9/11?) and our overcrowded prisons - are a result of the fact that children have had their childhood stolen from them. The magic, the wonder, the mystery, and the innocence of a child's heart, are the seeds of creativity that will heal the world. I really believe that.
What, what we need to learn, what we need to learn from children isn't childish. Being with them connects us to the deeper wisdom of life which is everpresent, and only asks to be lived. They know the solutions that lie waiting to be recognised within our own hearts. Today, I would like to thank all the children of the world, including the sick and deprived . . . I am so sensitive to your pain . I also want to thank all those who have helped me to channel my talent here on earth. " | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: one and only | | EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN OPINIONS, I FOR ONE SAY LET THE LITTLE BOY'S MOM'S TRIAL BEGIN AND SOON. REGARDLESS, WHETHER MICHAEL'S INNOCENT OR NOT AND PERSONALLY I THINK HE MAY HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO A LITTLE BOY IN THE PAST. WHO IS GOING TO SAVE THE NEXT LITTLE BOY WHOSE MOM GIVES HIM TO MICHAEL FOR HER FINANCIAL GAIN? GO PONDER | | Reply To this Message
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Ken NJ said this in post #32 :
http://www.msnbc.com/news/2054039.jpg Beyonce Knowles presents Michael Jackson with a humanitarian award during the Radio Music Awards on Monday at the Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas October 2003.[/color] First the Fall of the Berlin Wall, next Nelson Mandela and now Michael Jackson.
http://talkleft.com/mjack.jpg Aside from you commenting me campaigning for him, I have no desire to help MJ run for public office. He ain't no politician, but a humanitarian and been awarded for his great volunteer work and substantial contribution to the children of the world and saving starving kids. The African Ambassadors' Spouses Association recognized Jackson for his humanitarian efforts, particularly in Africa, where his "We Are the World" project reportedly raised millions to help the hungry.
1. Jackson has good deed works in Africa giving financial support for programs to build hospitals, orphanages, schools, and also for programs relating to immunization, HIV education and apartheid.
2. Jackson has given over $50 million of his personal wealth to charities over the years, including AIDS Project L.A., Make-a-Wish Foundation, Childhelp USA, Elizabeth Taylor's AIDS Foundation and many more.
3. Jackson is listed in the Guinness Book of Records under "Most Charities Supported by a Pop Star." Michael Jackson Gets Humanitarian Award - April 2, 2004 Michael Jackson has been honoured in Washington DC for his work fighting Aids in Africa. Apparently unmoved by the Los Angeles grand jury currently hearing evidence in his child molestation case, Jackson watched a children's choir as they performed his hit 'Heal the World' and gathered them on his lap, embracing other children, patting their heads and hugging them.
....During his three days in Washington, Jackson, dressed in a spangled jacket and silver-sequinned boots, toured the halls of the Capitol and met with members of Congress. Though he said little, he attracted hordes of reporters and was trailed by fans, enthusiastic maintenance workers and congressional staffers using their camera phones to take photographs. "It set Capitol Hill on fire", said Leon Buck, chief of staff to US Republican Sheila Jackson Lee, who helped arrange Jackson's visit. One staffer even fainted in the hubbub, Buck said.
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Gee!
A humanitarian AND a pedophile!
Two for the price of one!
That's alot like 40 acres and a mule!
I'll take the 40 acres, you can have the mule!
Now, please explain....
Does this make him a humanitarian who just happens to be a pedophile?
or
a pedophile who just happens to be a humanitarian.
I am just not certain how that works, could you clarify this for us all?
Or maybe he is just a pedi looking for a cure...and perhaps he just needs a good toe clipping?
Any and all explanations would clear the fog.
Thanks!
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| Posted by: nikiTa | |
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Ken NJ said this in post #34 :
[to the screeming crowd]: I love you too .
My childhood was completely taken away from me. There was no Christmas, there were no birthdays, it was not a normal childhood, nor the normal pleasures of childhood - those were exchanged for hard work, struggle, and pain , and eventually material and professional success. But as an awful price, I cannot re-create that part of my life. However, today, when I create my music, I feel like an instrument of nature. I wonder what delight nature must feel when we open our hearts and express our God-given talents.
And that's why I love children and learn so much from being around them. I realise that many of our world's problems today - from the inner city crime, to large scale wars and terrorism, (foresight: 8 years before 9/11?) and our overcrowded prisons - are a result of the fact that children have had their childhood stolen from them. The magic, the wonder, the mystery, and the innocence of a child's heart, are the seeds of creativity that will heal the world. I really believe that.
What, what we need to learn, what we need to learn from children isn't childish. Being with them connects us to the deeper wisdom of life which is everpresent, and only asks to be lived. They know the solutions that lie waiting to be recognised within our own hearts. Today, I would like to thank all the children of the world, including the sick and deprived . . . I am so sensitive to your pain . I also want to thank all those who have helped me to channel my talent here on earth. "[/color][/list] |
Yeah, so Michael Jackson had a tough childhood.
Does that give him license to **** up other children's childhoods??
Just because you had a rough childhood does not mean that you have the right to do the same to other children.
And just because you can afford an amusement park in your frontyard and a petting zoo to lure these children into your "domain" does not mean it's legal to do so.
And just because you grind your skinny little hips, grab your crotch and can squeal like a stuck pig and make billions of dollars doing it, does not mean it's ok!!!!
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one and only said this in post #39 :
ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE MICHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!! CASE CLOSED |
Ultimately, yes.
But while we roam this earth there are laws to be obeyed and ramifications for our actions.
So, would you suggest all state and federal prisons and local jails be opened up to let all the criminals free so that "only God can judge them?" Prisons are already letting people go before the completion of their sentences because they are too full....and what has been happening? They commit murderous pedophilia crimes shortly after being let go.
What a load.
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | | http://www.channel955.com/timages/page/mjSANTA.jpg People make false allegations against him. There are no one as kind and gentle to kids in the world as Michael Jackson. He loves them more than some parents their own kids. Michael Jackson - We're The World Lyrics
There comes a time when we heed a certain call
When the world must come together as one
There are people dying
and its time to lend a hand to life
There greatest gift of all
We cant go on pretending day by day
That someone, somewhere will soon make a change
We are all a part of Gods great big family
And the truth, you know,
Love is all we need
[Chorus:]
We are the world, we are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So lets start giving
Theres a choice we're making We're saving out own lives
its true we'll make a better day
Just you and me
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EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN OPINIONS, I FOR ONE SAY LET THE LITTLE BOY'S MOM'S TRIAL BEGIN AND SOON.
http://www.courttv.com/graphics/photos/trials/michael-jackson/trial-gallery/accusers-mother-gallery-050905.jpg Doesn’t look like Janet Ventura – Arvizo will be prosecuted for lying on the witness stand. The reason – Sneddon apparently granted transactional immunity for The DA’s Star Witness to come and lie about the false allegation of being imprisoned. (< -- Just Click Here) The mother of Michael Jackson's accuser arrives in court on April 14, 2005. On her second day on the stand, she described for the jury a two-month ordeal where she allegedly was held captive at Jackson's ranch and was regularly intimidated by his aides (This alone would have me laughing internally to say: "What type of scam is she trying to get over me?") $$$ Jackson allow her complete freedom to spend thousands of dollars in a shopping spree, live lavishly in hotels and get bikini waxed. $$$ How many would line up to get imprisoned? PERSONALLY I THINK HE MAY HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO A LITTLE BOY IN THE PAST.
See it’s NOT legal to try to convict someone on evidence not directly involved to the present case nor the 10 counts involved. Each case stands on its own set of facts. False allegations that weren’t pursued in court by Chandler really ain’t evidence for Gavin in this instance. Chandler’s parents were also GOLD-diggers who were after Michael Jackson’s money. They didn’t think their case was strong enough, just to fabricate something to extort money from the King of Poppycock. In fact NOBODY from Gavin’s family actually took the witness stand to point their fingers at Jackson. And if these past allegations were so great, Sneddon could have easily compelled them under a subpoena or warrant. So all the past street rumors and their taking the multi-million deal to shut up is nothing but crapola.
WHO IS GOING TO SAVE THE NEXT LITTLE BOY WHOSE MOM GIVES HIM TO MICHAEL FOR HER FINANCIAL GAIN? GO PONDER
Answer on Father's Day today – the custodial father or their legal guardian because these moms really don’t care about own kids. Janet Arvizo the pimp was a fraud and a certified court liar out to score a lottery winning. She was a homeless mom and looking for Wacko Jacko to be their Sugar Daddy. Even own father David Arvizo said in court transcript that she is a liar and not to be believed. There are other examples of desperate housewives who don’t care about the welfare of own kids and would even go as far as killing their own flesh and blood. 1. Susan Smith would strap own 2 kids to the car seat belts and roll the car into the river, drowning them to make the evidence looked something else.
2. Andrea Yates would strangle own 4 sons and 1 daughter and drown them in own tub while husband works at NASA Space Center.
3. For those religious bible thumbers, even Brooke Shields would go and kill 140 of her very own kids to have a new baby girl. (< -- Just Click Above) http://www.wbkids.com/MJ_WEB_PICS/thumbs/th_bambi_006.jpg So who can come to help save all the poor kids in the world? Yep, Michael Jackson is very generous in giving his time and money to the forgotten kids. Funny how none of the millions of kids aside from these desperate ones who need a Sugar Daddy are the only ones doing it under the false pretense of their Gold-digger parents. MJ helps million's of young childhood to be loved and cared for, except 2 delirious parents wanting money? |
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| Posted by: Ken NJ | | Okay SWTT, another interesting discussion or are we going to ponder and Seek for the Hidden Meaning once again like The Beatle's Song "I Am The Walrus Lyrics " you requested in 12/04? (Just Click Here) Lennon and McCarthney were tripping probably from own zen and brought back some weird Sh!t whichever way you want to interpret it. The eff bee eye could NOT make crap out of the song lyrics supposedly and gave up. Perhaps, the song is saying they're walking on the edge of the law (smoking, tripping etc) and in possession of a piece which when brandishing the arms, "the pigs will run." It's a satirical song beginning . http://southafrica.indymedia.org/uploads/michael.gif http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/dc3s.jpg He's not a crook, but Sneddon and his posse are crooked cops that belong in jail. Jackson has NOT been declared as a molester, but he's gotten public awards for being a humanitarian. Therefore one is proven and the other disproved in a court of law. Let me continue the explanation.
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mj.online/graphics/front1.jpgIt's NOT about a TWO)-fer. Just simply MJ is a misunderstood humanitarian. He's never claiming goverment reparation with the 40 Acres and a mule. He already owns 2500 acres at his Neverland Ranch and employing 30 employees. MJ isn't a stupid mule who will let this second extortionist ripping him off.
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Sneddon failed, the boy's family was hardly his only problem. (He never had any good evidence, but attempted to bluff his emptied-hand in court.) 
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mj.online/graphics/front6.jpg As jurors suggested, the boy's family was hardly the prosecution's only problem. (Nope, don't think there are anymore molester claims hiding under the nooks and cranies around the country. They were all false to begin with.)
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mj.online/graphics/front3.jpg The sourputz and sore-loser twice around. $$$ He had a personal vandetta and was using the California taxpayer's money to seek own personal glory. $$$
When Sneddon's team brought in a string of ex-Neverland workers to tell lurid tales of Michael groping boys, including Home Alone star Macaulay Culkin, in the late 1980s and early 1990s, the defense countered with three of the alleged victims.
On the stand, Culkin denied being molested. Wade Robson and Brett Barnes did the same. (Wonder why Jackson and Mesereau win this case in court? None of the molestation allegations are accurate but false.)
*source:http://home.wanadoo.nl/mj.online/ |
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| Posted by: Jim Nasium | |
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sowhatsthetruth said this in post #40 :
Ultimately, yes.
But while we roam this earth there are laws to be obeyed and ramifications for our actions.
So, would you suggest all state and federal prisons and local jails be opened up to let all the criminals free so that "only God can judge them?" Prisons are already letting people go before the completion of their sentences because they are too full....and what has been happening? They commit murderous pedophilia crimes shortly after being let go.
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face it, swtt, jackson isn't alone. there are others, who write in many colors, that also live in fantasyland.
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| Posted by: nikiTa | |
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Jim Nasium said this in post #43 :
face it, swtt, jackson isn't alone. there are others, who write in many colors, that also live in fantasyland. |
Thank you Jim Nasium for prompting me to face the real music.
Now, I think I'll go back to the general discussion/songs that make you go WOW thread and get back to a deep love of mine...music that matters.
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| Posted by: one and only | | ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THE CROOKS DIDN'T PREVAIL THIS TIME, GOOD TRY THOUGH. THE JURY SAW RIGHT THROUGH THE MOM, THE BOY AND SNEDDON. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: brochu13 | | I don't think they are crooks. Who knows, maybe they really were telling the truth, I doubt it now, but maybe. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: schmiggens | | I don't think anyone, both the accuser's family and the Jackson family, etc were telling the 100% honest-to-God truth.
Maybe Jackson thought what he was saying was the truth, but he does live in a wonderland. | | Reply To this Message
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