American press turns on President Bush's "botched" war

Post-9/11 Era Forum

Seems like the newsprint media in America is finally growing a spine.

I have seen this crap reported all along... in america. I'm not saying I agree or dissagree with anything, but it's been here all along.

The only thing I would answer is that in my opinion it is not crap. You may agree or disagree, but these excerpts of article express valuable concerns based on common sense.

This is a pretty one sided article. I suggest attaching the "Other side" of the story.

The Iraqi governement does NOT want us to leave any time soon. Wouldn't you think the current governing officials would know more about this than a biased Bush hater's liberal diatribe?

Posting one side of a story that suites your thinking and agenda on this forum is only designed to instill the anti-Bush sentimate that you have continuously displayed here. What is your point exactly? The anti-Bush article or a debate?

If the "Insurgents" want us to leave, there is only one optionfor them. Just like OBL, they don;t understand the consequences of their actions. We will not be scared into leaving or changing policies to suite any Terrorist. OBL thought that his action would make Americans and Jews leave the middle-east. It has done just the opposite. There are no MORE Americans in the middle east than ever before but/ It didn't work for OBL and it won't work in Iraq. Stop the violence and we will leave. Something about the Muslim reasoning that just won't let them understand action and reaction. Maybe because they spent their youth learning to memorize the Koran and not learn any life building skills. It is more ignorance of world communities and tolerence and a rush to act through violence and fear. In my opinion, it's just plain stupidity by uneducated Muslims with only knowledge of a religion designed by man for men.

USA1: The Iraqi governement does NOT want us to leave any time soon. Wouldn't you think the current governing officials would know more about this than a biased Bush hater's liberal diatribe?

The Iraqi government wouldn't last a week without US support so it's hardly surprising they want the US military to stay. Same goes for the Afghan leader.

Posting one side of a story that suites your thinking and agenda on this forum is only designed to instill the anti-Bush sentimate that you have continuously displayed here. What is your point exactly? The anti-Bush article or a debate?

The US media collapsed and failed utterly to do it's duty when the whole PR of the Bush administration went into action regarding the build up to the Iraq war. The job of jounalists is supposed to be about informing the public, not chearleading whoever is in power - that way leads to a totalitarian state. As for the media standing up to Bush now - it's too little and far too late, but better than nothing.

If the "Insurgents" want us to leave, there is only one optionfor them. Just like OBL, they don;t understand the consequences of their actions.

There are all kinds of factions battling in Iraq. You're over simplificatioin of what's going on there is why it's YOU that doesn't understand why it continues.

We will not be scared into leaving or changing policies to suite any Terrorist. OBL thought that his action would make Americans and Jews leave the middle-east. It has done just the opposite. There are no MORE Americans in the middle east than ever before but/ It didn't work for OBL and it won't work in Iraq.

Bush has made all Bin Laden's dreams come true. America is stuck in a messy war in an Arab country. Americans have been shown torturing Muslims. America has been caught lying about the whole pretext for war and invasion of a country that just happened to be soaked in oil, by a government of oil men. Trust in America is at an all time low. The inability to halt the insurgency means American military credibility is at an all time low. Can anyone think how this could actually be any better for Bin Laden?

Stop the violence and we will leave.

Who should stop the violence? You don't know who you are fighting.


Something about the Muslim reasoning that just won't let them understand action and reaction.

And you'd think after Vietnam, American reasoning would be a little better and wiser. But something about American arrogance.

Maybe because they spent their youth learning to memorize the Koran and not learn any life building skills. It is more ignorance of world communities and tolerence and a rush to act through violence and fear.

Or maybe it's just that you invaded a country, started a war and killed a lot of Arabs making a lot of people angry enough to pick up a gun. Or how about maybe there's all kinds of groups in Iraq seeing the carnage as a great opportunity to exploit a lawless violent country for their own advantage.

In my opinion, it's just plain stupidity by uneducated Muslims with only knowledge of a religion designed by man for men.

Or how about uneducated Americans who are still convinced that Hussein was responsible for 9/11. Now where did that idea come from?

H@TS,

Typically USA1 will never criticise the Bush regime, and I think your answers to his statements were cleverer and better observed. Be careful though: if you disagree with USA1, he's likely to ingnore you because that is the nature of many right wing "thinkers" – they cling to their parochial views out of fear because an alternative view might just leave them a little unsettled and incapable of eating their Big Mac and chips.

Preston.

One man's common sense is another man's common stupidity.

Absolutely, Preston.