What do you really know?

Post-9/11 Era Forum

For those of you who actually know something. What do you know?

I'm not interested in what you've heard. Or what your friends know. Or how stupid the other "side" is. I just want to know what--if anything--you really know.

Please don't reply with some rhetorical sarcastic crap.

I'll be sadly dissapointed if this thread gets no replies.

I know something.

No one knows anything.

Apart from that, what do you know?

Sayzak said, "No one knows anything".

This is a paradoxical remark. Knowing nothing means we actually know something – the fact that we know nothing. Quad Erat Demonstrandum.

Preston Likely.

When you say what do we know what are you referring to? I know ny name and where I live etc but I somehow don't think that is what you are getting at. and if you are reffering to what is happening in Iraq then your question (and the rules you have set for answering your question) cannot be answered. you see I can tell you what my friends in the services tell me but I cant do that, I could tell you I have heard from the papers, the news channels or the MOD or another department of government tell me but I can't do that either. So how are you proposing we answer the question without me re - enlisting

Lame thread…

This thread is in the post 9/11 forum.

I guess I'm tired of fishing through people's random links that they googled, only to find a dead-end. No one has a crediable source. Even if they appear to have one, their source doesn't have a source. Either that or they can't prove it.

I think life is a paradox.

Actually, I think life is an illusion.

Preston, you seem like the kind of guy who would know a thing or two about the Universe... what are your thoughts on the Holographic Universe?

Sayzak, I know enough to know that I don't know much but I do know that I'm beginning to get real worried about you.

Sayzak,

You've made some interesting points.

I consider the Holographic Universe theory/principle as valid as the Big Bang or String Theory. I mean, let's face it, scientists could conceivably be as wrong about the Big Bang Theory as Natural Philosophers (old name for scientists) were about the notion of the world being flat. I actually find the idea of a holographic universe not only plausable but more artistic. We've also got to consider that there are hundreds of unthought of theories that are going to challenge future generations, theories that will literally blow many people's minds – I only wish I was around to witness the next Einstein, who will make E= MC2 look like naughts and crosses.

The upshot is I think humans have about as much chance of working out what the universe is as fish have in working out what a pond is.

I think the trouble with science is that the evolution of thought has outpaced the evolution of language, which has left both philosophy and science in a kind of literary quick sand, which means that even if scientists did discover "the answer to everything" they wouldn't be capable of translating it into digestable meaning: it'd be like describing the colour purple to a blind-from-birth person. But we live in hope I suppose.

Let's face it, scientists could tell us anything and we might be led to believe it because most of us haven't got the mental tools to challenge their theories in the same way that lay people could not challenge the word of biblical preachers many centuries ago, whose theories came straight from an unreadable latin-printed Bible (lay people, once upon a time, could not understand latin in the same way that most lay people cannot now understand scientific formulas).

Preston.

The only certainty is uncertainty (another paradox).