guard saw sex act on a child-warning graphic |
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SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- A former security guard at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch testified Thursday that he saw the pop star performing oral sex on a young boy while the two were standing nude outside a shower.
The former guard, Ralph Chacon, testified that Jackson and the boy -- who was involved in a civil suit against Jackson in 1993 -- were engaged in "passionate" kissing and were caressing before the sex act.
The 46-year-old singer is accused of molesting another boy -- now 15 years old -- at Neverland, giving him alcohol and conspiring to hold the boy's family captive in 2003.
Jackson has pleaded not guilty to the charges.
"[Jackson's] hands were all over his body," Chacon said of the incident outside the shower in late 1992 or 1993.
The family of the boy, who was 9 or 10 at the time of the incident, filed a civil lawsuit against the entertainer 12 years ago. Without admitting guilt, Jackson agreed to a multimillion-dollar settlement to end that case.
Chacon's testimony marks the first time in this trial that jurors have heard allegations of sexual contact that went beyond fondling or masturbation.
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| Posted by: schmiggens | | I'm gonna vomit ....
He witnessed this in 1993 or 1994? And this is the first anyone is hearing of it? I don't care if you signed a confidentiallity clause, there is such a thing as the greater good and this guy should have gone straight from seeing that shower scene to the Police.
Can he be charged with endangering the child's safety through negligence or something for not coming forward with this information sooner? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hellokittykelli | | that's what I was thinking also. I mean if these people saw this happen, why not tell the cops?
But MJ has some serious fans that will kill, so I guess if you make statements like that against him you best be prepared to pack up and leave the country. I think thoes people really had to sign a confidentiality contract, that a lot of former employees claim they had to sign. But that must be some powerful S**T in thoes contracts to not report a scene like that. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: mystic | | I heard on some show that he did tell the police in 1993 when they investigated MJ but it never went to trial...
Maybe this was another kid he settled with.
Is this maybe why he got fired?  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: gaboman | | Or retaliation for being fired?
It didn't actually say he was fired though, so maybe he just quit. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | I remember hearing that he did go to the police with this, but then the kid would not testify because of the settlement. Still, how could you walk in on that and not say "GET YOUR F'ing HANDS OFF THAT CHILD!"  There is no way in hell I could see that and not go stop it. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: chelktty | | Looks like a few former employees of Neverland ranch are testifying about incidents in which they saw Jackson engaging in lewd behavior with children. The question is exactly as you guys stated, why didn't they go to the police?
The defense is arguing that these are disgruntled ex employees who are making these allegations out of a need for revenge. The problem I have with this is no matter how screwed I ever got from a former employer, (and there have been a few times) I would never falsify this kind of charge or allegation. Some things are just beyond revenge and I think this is one of them. Besides, these former employees would have to collaborate on their different "stories" to make them similar enough for the DA to take interest.
Like Sherry said though, how can you witness something like that and NOT speak up? Maybe MJ's money and power is too intimidating to those around him. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: hellokittykelli | |
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HECK said this in post #10 :
It's hard to put yourself in any of their shoes.
-HECK! |
so true, no one would really know how to react to something like that, espically under thoes circumstances. I would tell someone, but who???? I mean going to the cops on MICHAEL JACKSON is a very difficult thing because you are opening a giant can of worms and your private life is over.
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| Posted by: one and only | | IF YOU ASK ME THE SECURITY GUARD AND EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE WHO SAW MICHAEL DO SOMETHING TO A KID, SHOULD BE ON TRIAL WITH MICHAEL!!!!!! WHY IN THE HELL DIDN'T THEY DO OR SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BEFORE NOW????!!!! HOW COULD YOU WITNESS ANY KIND OF ABUSE ON A CHILD AND SAY NOTHING? APPARENTLY, THE GUARD SAID HE DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE HIS JOB BULLCRAP!!!!!!!!! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | I agree that the guards and whoever else saw a child being molested and did nothing should be facing the music as well. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: schmiggens | |  Can you imagine being this boys mother and finding out that people knew that your son was being seriously sexually abused and did nothing?!? I'd want to go and buy a gun and blow their balls off.
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| Posted by: gaboman | | (((Not that schmiggens endorses such action...)))
On another note, this security guard was fired from Jackson's employment and tried to sue him for damanges, unsuccessfully. If that means anything to anyone  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | If you were fired unjustly, wouldn't you sue? I know I would. Just a thought to throw out there. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: gaboman | | Yeah, but he was unsuccessful in suing. That's one MJ didn't even bother settling  | | Reply To this Message
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