The only language the Americans understand

Post-9/11 Era Forum

After weeks of reading the threads here by our American friends and their pro-war stance guess it looks like only the AlQaeda understands how to "communicate" with the Americans. --Fighting Fire with Fire-- I gave up trying to convey how wrong their government policy was.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....storyID=2734173

And I'm afraid more is coming when we least expected.

Thanks Bomosiam.

I didn't you know you were under the impression that the War in Iraq was about facilitating a cease-and-desist from terrorist organizations.

@dvader

it's not about knowing that, it's about the consequences of this war ...... and coalition will do what now ? invade and bomb another country - a muslim one - to eradicate the terrorism ?

and again, who pay the price ? not the gov as usual .....

nowar,

This is the first time you have directly replied to me so I'll take advantage of this opportunity and share something with you.

I read posts and threads far more than I reply/post myself. I do this to get to know who is who, who believes what, why, and when.... and who is worth replying to and who isn't.

Over the course of several weeks I've found you to be not worth my time. So keep that in mind when, from here on out, you don't hear from me any more.

Best of luck.

Yes, its all americans Bomosiam - every single one of them. If you believe that, you are a fool. There are more Americans AGAINST the War in Iraq here in these very pages then Anti-war followers from other areas of the world.
But its still ALL Americans - anyone who believes this assumption is a fool with beliefs built upon profound ignorance. America had some of the BIGGEST protests in the world.

because you think that I'm waiting your reply to my posts ????




as I said, you don't like, don't read, it will save you time and don't reply, it will save my time

Yea Americaaah, there ARE A LOT of really dumb ppl out here.......
If they don't like it, they can move out.....

Seriously....If you have such a problem as to TROLL these boards and talk your Anti-American thoughts, and if you live in the U.S., you can make yourself happier by moving to another country and be away from what you hate. Just get out of the place I love, and fought for in two wars. You ppl are ignorant.

Thank You

-Paul

Here's what I understand.
You bleeding hearts need to go to Iraq and help dig up the 15,000 bodies murdered by this madman.
Quit complaining about America, pick up a shovel and go dig. Then tell me this war was unjust. Also tell me why your country stood by and watched this happen for the last 30 years and blamed it on America's greed.
You people are self serving idiots who can't see beyond your own views of morality.

@USA1

already replied in the main thread about the mass grave.

But I will add this:

so, let's assume that it was really based on the "taking care of people" motive .... 119 dictators remain .... will they - the 'coalition' - freed their citizens too or was it the result of a lottery ?

I have noticed that people believe ALL Americans are the same - I have never claimed to know everything - but they seem to know more about Americans A.K.A. my personal friends THEN I DO!
How can this be?

Because they believe what they have been told just like they accuse US the AMERICANS of doing.
They do what they say we Americans should not.

Yeah, and america couldn't possibly be made up of people from all over the world. The rest of the world that is against America no matter what we do is just jealous that they don't live hear. That is all I can say for them.

I know someone from ALMOST every country in the world. I've dated a French Chick, I know a guy from Algeria, a lady from Japan and Iran, Some German brothers - the list goes on - Africa - a friend just moved and he was from South America - oh, India, and china - the netherlands (school - exchange student) oh man the list goes on and on.

People do not believe this? There is a HUGE area for Muslims/Arabs Mosk (build by Americans for the muslim)- you know - the ones that think we hate them. If we hate them - we would remove them from our country, from our towns. Those that believe ALL Americans hate them are idiots and ill informed. They think 101 Dalmatians is pornographic material.

Come on - Japan's cartoons are WAY worse and more graphic then Americas -(they are awesome too)

that's a very nice way of avoiding conflict but what you're basically saying is 'america deserves it.'

listen bosm, you better pray to god this country keeps up it's power, because if it doesn't, your state is not going to last for much longer.

how ****ing dare you come on here and talk like that, as far as i know, if it wasn't for america your ass would be lying in 50 bits in a coffin right now.

nowar,
You're missing the point as usual.
Like I said, get a shovel you butt head.

DaveDom
Sorry for the lecture but, I'm old and have children so, it just happens.
If a country does nothing, they can do no wrong. Get it? This goes for life in general.
So in your view, America is always in the wrong. There are many more good things that have been done by America for every country in the world. Your focus is one sided and hateful. I'm sorry your life in the UK is so miserable with nothing going the way you would like it. You know, that's life.
Start looking forward instead of the past. Look at what is being done today. What ever reason for the Iraq war that you think is true, together, the UK and the US have stopped a genocide. Yes, some people will die, Americans, Iraqis and more English before this is over but, thousands have been saved in the process. You should be happy that a complete stranger is willing to lay down his life for your beliefs. You have right to belive war is wrong no matter what. Nobody is putting a gun in your hand and making you fight for something you don't believe in. That's freedom too.
Many Iraqi soldiers didn't have that option.

sloppy,
If you think I'm happy. You are wrong. I am discusted with any attitute that looks the other way when people are being murdered or when denial is supported by historical events.
To you I say, 'Get a shovel" too.

sloppy,
Does the reason really matter now? Why? Because you dissagreed? Because England and Germany disagreed?
Saddam can no longer build or use WMD. He can no longer kill thousands of inocent people. He can no longer strip his country from becoming a great nation to the world and of Islam.
Isn't that enough?

rowdyrjp,
For some reason you have issues with the U.S.
What about your Mother country and the 50 some other that did physically support this war? There were many other countries that suppoted this war but, didn't get directly involved.
So get off your high horse you ingnorant twit.

FYI-
Allah gave Mohammad the right to kill those that jeopardize the the path of Islam. THE BATTLE OF BADR. THE BATTLE OF THE TRENCH.
It is embedded in the Koran and is part of Muslim life.

Also when did I ever generalize Americans?

How do you know we're not Muslims on this forum?

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@flapbreaker

Rowdy, regarding the Saudi students, you may be right they may not have been lied to they may dislike us for what ever reason. You mean they are tired of us being their number one buyer of their oil? I suppose we could stop that.

About U.S. extremists. You are correct, there are plenty of "pockets" of extremists within the US that have their own goals. I don't deny that. In fact most people probably don't realize that the early US presidents were part of the KKK. It was a "boys club" it wasn't until some of the details of their goings on came out that the politicians started distancing themselves from that. The U.S. though is very different from what goes on in some middle eastern countries. The biggest difference is that our culture is not defined by any one religion, conflict, or people. So it is difficult for any one "extremist" group to take hold and grow very large.


No the U.S. has probably not had the Arabs interests in mind in most action over there. However the U.S. has supported Isreal and kuwait but I do not see that we have gained anything from them. I have always wished that we would just pull out of the rest of the world and let the pieces fall where they may. I would like to see our foreign aid stopped, of which noone seems to appreciate. That way people would stop blaming the U.S. for their problems. I get frustrated because the US and it's people do a lot for many parts of the world but most of that goes unappreciated so I say screw it. Then everyone would like us I guess.

Hey flapbreaker...

Thanks for the reply. Very interesting stuff on the early presidents!

Don't think for one minute that when countries { like US } engage in humanitarian aid in foreign lands that it is unappreciated These people who we { developed-prosperous nations } help are always grateful.

The negative reactions and resentments toward outsiders { US, UK, USSR in particular } are fallout from the cold war. Understand when the superpowers decided they would risk to much fighting each other they did a bizarre thing

They could ahve learned to become closer allies.... they could have benefitted from cultural exchange... they could have become friends. Of course none of these things happened. What did happen though was they ran around the globe selling arms and influence { with disastrous results } and once they had enough smaller countries in their respective thralls .... they began fighting through these proxys

Generations of children who have grown up in these war ravaged lands now despise outsiders especially if one is from say US, UK, USSR

They don't care if people from these countries now want to help because we have not earned their trust. We won't earn it either if we continue to try and manipulate them . If we impose our leadership ... our regime on them ...they will continue to resent us. If the children of today are not to become the terrorists of tommorrow we need to let them breathe.

@flapbreaker

It's Memorial Day. The time to honor America's fallen heroes....