The radical Democratic left is an army of soulless ghouls

Euthanasia/Right to Die Forum

The radical Democratic left is an army of soulless ghouls. Being of the living dead, they live in a world of death and try to impose it on we the living. Witness who led the charge: a radical homosexual, Barney Frank. A radical abortion Mafiosa, Barbara Boxer. What is difficult for we the living to comprehend is the reason they can engage in such anti-life abominations is because they have no souls. They have said that the tears of Terri Schiavo are mechanical. They have said that her smile is reflexive. They can rip an emerging child from the womb, murder it, and call this a compassionate act. Like Mengele – the doctor of death from the Nazi concentration camps - the radical, soulless Democrats keep referring to “the doctors,” as if a medical degree guaranteed humanity. Therefore, choose life. God bless George W. Bush.

Sorry, but congress and the President have no business forcing their religious views on people. This is not about abortion, it is about the right to chose your medical care. She made her wishes known to her husband, best friend, and one other. We should respect the law, and respect that bond of marriage. As her husband, Michael Schiave has the right to make that heart wrenching decision. Not congress, not her parents, not you and certainly not me.

Calling the democrats ghouls is really productive. Why not tell the truth and call it like it is? Delay got up in front of the country and told the lies that the Schindler family has been spinning about Terri's condition. It goes against everything the medical evidence shows. The woman has no cerebral cortex left.

I am a Christian, and letting nature take its course and allowing her wishes to be followed is the right thing. She will go home to God, and if these hypocrites that proclaim to follow Him really had faith they would not fear her going home to Him.

It's people like the one who started this thread, that make life such a lovely thing to live!!!!

NO ONE, not the gov't... not her parents... and certainly not you (thank the lord for that small favor) have the right to choose this for Michael, or Terri. This was HER wish...

Exactly Kris. It is about respecting her right to decide this. One thing that many of us Americans take pride in is that liberty to decide when enough is enough. All of these supportive measures are not natural. They are life extending measures. She can not feed herself, so by doing all this we are going against nature and her wishes as well.

RIGHT!!! I have stated, time and again, and I even have it written down in a journal book...

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME, I DO NOT WANT TO EVER LIVE AS A VEGETABLE!!! PERIOD! PULL THE PLUG... AND DO NOT RESISATATE!!!

Enough is enough.... Terri and Michael discussed (as MANY, if not all, couples do) about what their wishes were should something ever happen. She did NOT want to be left like this. She is NOT living. Her body may still be functioning (to an extent) but she is NOT there.

Many question her husband being the one to make the decision. To those people I say this. You do not get to pick your parents. You do get to pick the person you love and marry.

When you marry someone, they are LEGALLY responsible. You CHOOSE to spend your life with that person.

You know, it's funny... as a gay person, wanting the rights to be married, etc... the gov't says that it's not allowed, because it's againts "Gods" plan. That it is only for a man and woman. Okay... if the gov't KNOWS this, they also know that as the husband of Terri, HE, and HE ALONE, has the legal right to choose. He's trying to follow his wife's wishes. I respect him, for standing by her side....

Great posts

Sherry and Kris.


I agree 100%

Thank you, Beck...

Once again, Kris and Sherry hit a bullseye

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Well, thank you, thank you!!! Sher and I have a lot of similiar beliefs about things!!! Don't mess with us... we can be vicious... and we haven't even brought out the 'big guns' yet!!!

FreedomB4Peace--

Thanks for the thread? Just wanted to remind you that George W. Bush, to whom you extend a blessing, is responsible for the deaths of over 125,000 people. You seem to have glossed over this fact. Clearly Terri Schiavo is not the only one suffering from a lack of higher brain function.

Let us not forget that back when Bush was Gov of Texas he signed a bill giving hospitals the right to deny life support to indigent patients who couldnt pay for it , even if the family want to keep their loved one alive!

Yeah... he's a two headed pig!!! OOPS, did I just say that?!

Even I didn't vote for that man.
Nor did several of my Christian friends.

Yup, once again Dubya's true ambition comes to light: $$$

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Well, if those no good comatose folk don't get off their lazy asses and work a bit, why should it be the State that has to pick up the tab? I ask ya that!

PS. Wonderful topic. I hope next we have a mature and frank discussion on how democrats are poo poo heads.

To the surprise of no one, I'm sure, you've missed the point, CJ.

All the medical evidence shows she basically died all those years ago. She told her husband she would not like to live if ever in this medical state. What is humane about letting a shell of a person stay alive through machines.

Let's say you had the responsibility of carrying out someone's last wishes - then the government stepped in, what would you say then? Praise almighty Dubbs and let political agenda's, once again, infiltrate your life and liberty?

It's obvious you want the government to call the shots in your life, but don't speak for the rest of us.

And since you have conveniently glazed over this tid-bit:

I will assume you have no intelligible response.

This is my shocked face:

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I don't waste my time with the likes of one of those lost, hypocrite liberals to whom I was referring on post #20. My point was clear. Any volunteers to die of thirst and starvation? No? I thought not.

And once again the moral justifiers of the universe speak with high hypocrisies.

This is not about abortion, which is something I happen not to agree with too. This is about the rights of this woman to make her own choices. What gives these right-winged hypocrites the right to remove her freedom to make that choice? It’s her life.

You want to talk about the “immoral democrats” well how about these same republicans who think little to nothing of the lives torn apart in Iraq by US bombs dropping on their heads from above? What about the 10’s of thousands of innocent ones blown to bits because we want to go over there and make Iraq a US friendly state?

What about these same people who uphold Capital Punishment even while knowing that so many innocent people are dying in the process?

You have no room to stand on your moral soapbox and condemn those who subscribe to Terri’s right to live her quality of life the way she sees fit. The fact that you buy into their line of bull only heightens the impressionable minds of the people by their leaders despite facts presented before their own faces.

I’m surprised they don’t get a nose bleed from sitting that high up on their perched thrones.

Curly--

Am I understanding you? Are you saying that the only problem you have is the starvation element? I have a problem with that too. However, since euthanasia is illegal, what options are we afforded?
Ironically, lethal injections are administered to criminals, but not provided to upstanding citizens. If Schiavo were a resident of Oregon, where would your outrage be? Even Oregon's Death with Dignity Act isn't safe from the over-reaching arms of the Republican federal gov't.
http://www.watchingjustice.org/what...w.php?docId=573
Where does the encroachment end?
The fact that you haven't addressed the killing of 125,000 (80% being women + children under 15) by the Bush administration is telling. Your selective outrage is unconvincing. As with most Republicans, you just want to be on the team that's winning.

The more humane way to kill is not illegal for convicted felons but it's illegal for innocents. Makes sense.

The feeding tube will not be re-inserted—the appeal has failed. Terry will now die within a couple of days. Case closed.

And how many “innocents” are wrongfully killed through capital punishment? Is there no cry for those innocent as well? What about the thousands of “innocents” whose lives were shattered by bombs dropping on their heads from US warplanes in Iraq?

Life is a sanctity that should be protected but not at the expense of those it’s claiming to protect. No one has the right to force someone to live inside of their personal hell on earth. Those who are terminally ill and live in pain every day of their lives or be it those who’ve made requests not to live like a vegetable, what gives us the mandate from God to prolong their agony?

This matter should have never ended up in Federal Court to begin with. Maybe now if what you say is true about the appellate courts, she can finally rest.

The moral of this story for Congress is? “Mind your own beeswax”.

Excellent post Oneofpeace.

To those that think the method is cruel. Terri has no consciousness. The doctors have said that she does not have the ability to feel hunger or thirst.

Guess what FreedomB4Peace?

"Savior of the World" is not in the President's job description.

That job has already been filled.

Leave it to a far right-winger to turn this into a political issue.

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What's new, Heck... I know that you aren't surprised by this!!

Nah, I suppose not. Oh well.

Someone has to keep on nyuck'n, I suppose.

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Wll, this is certainly interesting isnt it?

Tom DeLay...who supported the family heavily on this issue...

A little hypocritial there arent ya DeLay?

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DeLay has denounced Schiavo's husband, as well as judges, for committing what he calls "an act of barbarism" in removing the tube.

In 1988, however, there was no such fiery rhetoric as the congressman quietly joined the sad family consensus to let his father die.

"There was no point to even really talking about it," Maxine DeLay, the congressman's 81-year-old mother, recalled in an interview last week. "There was no way he (Charles) wanted to live like that. Tom knew, we all knew, his father wouldn't have wanted to live that way."

Doctors advised that he would "basically be a vegetable," said the congressman's aunt, JoAnne DeLay.

When the man's kidneys failed, the DeLay family decided against connecting him to a dialysis machine. "Extraordinary measures to prolong life were not initiated," said his medical report, citing "agreement with the family's wishes." His bedside chart carried the instruction: "Do Not Resuscitate."

On Dec. 14, 1988, the senior DeLay "expired with his family in attendance."

"The situation faced by the congressman's family was entirely different than Terri Schiavo's," said a spokesman for DeLay, who declined requests for an interview.

"The only thing keeping her alive is the food and water we all need to survive. His father was on a ventilator and other machines to sustain him," said Dan Allen, DeLay's news aide.


There were also these similarities [with Schiavo]: Both stricken patients were severely brain damaged. Both were incapable of surviving without continuing medical assistance. Both were said to have expressed a desire to be spared life sustained by machine. And neither left a living will.

This previously unpublished account of the majority leader's personal brush with life-ending decisions was assembled from court files, medical records and interviews with family members.



Hmm..I dont see the difference...one is kept alive by machine, the other by a feeding tube.

Who is this guy to be chastising anyone for this decision when he basically made the same decision under the same circumstances.

What a hypocrite!!

Initially Congress jumped all over this because of their political base, the conservative religious right.

He's not the only hypocrite here. Bush who rushed back from vacation to sign this bill is also guilty of the same. In 1999, he signed a bill in Texas into law that told the hospitals after 6 days to remove life support from anyone that doctors consider is beyond medical help. The kicker is that they can do this whether parents or guardians agree with it or not.

Subsequently there have been a number of plugs removed and deaths resulting from it, even babies.

After polls taken all over the nation showed that most people disagree with the way government has interjected themselves into this private matter, Congress and the White House toned down their rhetoric.

(for the record, Curley Joe and FreedomB4Peace are the same person.)

oops, I made a mistake.

That is sordidmesh, not Curley Joe.

You are not supposed to have multiple accounts for one person.

Yeah aditya but how do you get any sleep with all that noise constantly going on? It's like trying to sleep in Grand Central Station at the height of rush hour

That is true. But with all the partying, who wants to sleep?

M.