Guilty: Don't Let the Freak Fool You

Michael Jackson Forum

hmm....that's kinda harsh.

But I think that maybe MJ's emotions came from the realization of all the people who have stabbed him in the back over the years.

Once again, by me once being a hardcore MJ fan, I still feel sorry for him.

He must pay, and will. He is part of the culture of death that is aiding in the demise of the United States.

Now that is a bit of a stretch Sorrid. There are child molesters in EVERY country.

It is not a stretch. It is true. The United States is part of the world, so in that sense he is also polluting the rest of the world.

Wow, I certainly hope Andrea Peyser isn't a journalist...she's obviously thrown the concept of objectivity out the window.

I just WISH they let them have bloody cameras in teh court room. Wonder what he looks like when he cries? His tear ducts must be all messed up from all the wierd surgery he's had, what does he look liek when his mascara and eye liner runs down his face? Man, I WISH there were cameras.

Doesn't he have permanent eye liner? Still, you have to wonder if he cries like a little kid or not.

Good point, it is all probably permanent make up.

Wow... what an article... so they show the tape, he unfolds a tissue and holds it over his face, and that's cause for an entire article on him being a "freak"

Slow news day Grant.

This chick is probably a columnist or just wrote an editorial.

Either way, I totally agree.

-HECK!

He should pay for what? Sleeping with children in your bed isn't a crime. If he molested the accuser, then yes, he should pay. However, this just sounds like an editorial...then again I've never considered the New York Post to be a news source, more of a tabloid.

Sleeping with children in your bed isn't a crime, true...but an adult sleeping with children in their bed who are not their own or a member of their family is totally inappropriate no matter who the adult is. If MJ is guilty of molesting the kid he should go to prison. If he's innocent of the charges then he's guilty of being a complete moron for putting himself in that position after he'd already been accused of sex crimes against a child before. Additionally, any parent who allows their child to sleep in the bed of a strange man whose been accused of those types of crimes should be prosecuted for reckless endangerment.

The problem is this, if this wasn't Michael Jackson, if this was some no name, no fame 40 year old man who surrounded himself with nothing but little boys as friends, slept in the same bed as those boys, who ten years earlier had been accused of molestation by one of his former "friends".... and this guy was still behaving this way, still sleeping in bed with little boys who are not related to him, who is being accused again of the same crimes.
Would you still think there is nothing wrong or illegal about that person continuing their behavior?

His actions make him look guilty. IF he did not molest the first kid, then he would never have put himself in the same situation again. I honestly think the guy is a pedophile and is unable to control his urges. It's all very sad.

There is a lot of truth to that, Sherry.

Look how many drunk drivers, for instance, still drive drunk.

He's a damn weirdo, that isn't in dispute. Sure, it's obvious he loves kids, but it's also apparent that he loves kids.

And all this talk about him not having a childhood and creating this fairy tale land because he still thinks of himself as a kid is lame. It's like they're laying the foundation for a possible defense of mental deficiency.

-HECK!

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/8589/mjdebbieson.jpg Michael loves little children of the world, before he had his own. Everyone knows Michael Jackson is no normal dude. He's still living in his childhood days he missed while growing up.

http://michaeljackson.com/poll/main01.gif That being said, one would have to wonder whether the earlier charge was merely disposed because of money and convenience. What LOOKS strange doesn't make him guilty of the charge for molestation. This act requires MJ to take advantage of the boys sexually and the act of penetration. There has to be concrete and undisputed evidence that he sexually molested the boys.

No one will disagree that boys will be boys and sometimes act foolishly like running around naked or doing dumb stuff under the big roof of Neverland Ranch. But that doesn't make it molestation. If it looks stupid, that's still not a crime. People shouldn't use loosely the words associated with his name... "guilty of ....." He's not convicted nor determined by his jury and being convicted of molestation.

So he gave some jesus juice... In Europe or in airspace, that's legal. Do the authorities in U.S. put parents in jail for kids tasting their wines, beer or liquor left around the house? Let's put the millions in jail now.

To be guilty of molestation does not require penetration. Fondling a child in their private area is a criminal act even if no penetration occurs, thus leaving no evidence of DNA.
Little boys running around naked is not an illegal act. A 44 year old man, regardless of his mentally equivalent age, running around naked in front of little boys is not legal.
Letting a child have a small sip of wine at a holiday dinner is not illegal... getting the child drunk on wine is illegal.

The whole defense that MJ is merely a large child himself would only be valid if he were mentally retarded to the point of having the mental capacity limited to a child's age. This simply isn't the case. He is an adult who has proven capable of making adult decisions...(marriage, offspring & business) If he missed out on his childhood and as a result is an immature adult who likes to play games and own an amusement park, that's one thing. But to take it a step further and share a bed with children who are not related to him or walk around naked - exposing himself to those children, that's quite another. If he really is mentally stunted, with only the capacity of a child, then technically he shouldn't be the legal guardian of his own children, because he would never be able to provide them with adult supervision...thus constantly contributing to their delinquency.

Did anyone watch "Real Time with Bill Maur(sp)" this week? They had a guy on who did a bit about how absurd the MJ defense is. Imagine a guy who is 40 something saying that he just loves kids and wants them to come over and sleep in his bed with him. He didn't have a childhood, so he likes to hang out with young boys in his room. He doesn't have a real train, but he does have model trains, so send you kids over to play with him alone in his room.

He isn't rich or famous like MJ. It was funny because it was true. No one would ever buy that defense or consider it from anyone other than a celebrity.

You guys are rough and in my opinion the author of this article isn’t much of a journalist and should have her pen revoked.

Not meaning to offend but the question at hand is whether or not Michael molested this child. What does this have to do with his mascara, plastic surgery, the way he dress or even the way he smells for that matter?

This family has some major issues including the accuser. They couldn’t draw a straight storyline with a ruler. They have shady and sordid pasts with the same accusations levied at least twice prior to this. How is it that so many are looking past the accuser and exacting guilt on the accused?

If Michael’s past behavior can be assessed in his guilt or innocence then so can this family’s as to their credibility. Quite frankly, I don’t believe a word that comes out of any of their mouths given their history.

Being a freak isn’t illegal. Neither is sleeping with children as Inner has pointed out. Inappropriate? Sure as hell is and Mike-Mike has no one to blame for this predicament but himself. This family however are nothing but opportunists and the more time passes, the more it is becoming evident and clear.

Mike has mental issues and is in need of some serious counsel. The fact that he sleeps with children says so and is the only thing that speaks directly to the charges levied here. Nothing else found in the home seems to be consistent with pedophilia. Given the amount of children Mike-Mike has been around for so long, there should have been something found that speaks directly to pedophilia without interpretation but is conspicuously absent here.

And for the record, I don’t think sleeping with any child that except your son or daughter is appropriate, related or not.

If MJ were on trial for stupidity, I’d say through away the key. But in no way can this family pass the smell test of beyond reasonable doubt.

I agree oneofpeace.

I think that MJ is a target more than he is guilty. I don't know whether or not he committed these crimes, but I do know that if there's any rich celebrity out there who would be easy to set up and convict, it would be him.

It makes me sad that people make up their minds so quickly.

My father is a paranoid schizophrenic who's addicted to morphine, smokes a lot of pot and drinks vodka every day. When he's "numb" he talks like a little kid and sings--litterally sings--every thought that enteres his mind. He's one of the most eccentric characters on the planet, but he's harmless. He's never been accused of anything because he is too paranoid of other people's kids to go anywhere near them.

For the record, I am not suggesting that Michael's defense be insanity or anything. I just think he's a unique character regaurdless of his conviction, and I hope they don't convict him on that alone.

Oneofpeace - Well said.. I couldn't agree with you more.